Marilyn Manson: Classic or Dud?

Well, let's see - rises from the murky depths of Florida, goes out to shock in a Kiss-like fashion (since he obviously can't keep up with the death metal / biology freaks that define the Floridian experience), picks a really obvious cover song to browbeat the masses with (oh, some of them LIKE to be abused, OK - sing that part really spooky like, thanks, Brian), hits an interesting sonic nerve with "Beautiful People" (assuming you tune him out in the verses & pay attention to the other stuff), attaches tired Nazi imagery & his flabby, pale, sub-Howard-Stern-esque ass to said song during an MTV performance, does a switch-up & turns into an androgynous Bowie-esque glam freak (and does so quite well, I might add), and then reverts back to Mr. Scary Man (going so far as to reclaim "Beautiful People" for a lesser diatribe) to reclaim the meat of his fanbase that jumped ship when he got REALLY freaky. Also - worked with Sneaker Pimps (?!?) for a song on that god-awful _Spawn_ movie soundtrack. Also - allowed Rose McGowan to affix herself onto him & parasitically absorb his pseudo-freaky-deaky vibe for her own personal gain (which she needed, after those Akari movies & _Jawbreaker_). Also - gave a guitarist fellatio on stage with parents watching AKA trying too hard.

I'm scared more of the Lords of Acid. Or the Genitorturers. Or Nashville Pussy. He does give good soundbytes every so often. But Trent pushes more buttons without saying a damn thing. And sounds better doing it. D to the U to the D.

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as rock music: not classic, but occasionally entertaining.

I'm listening to it now and it's one of the best sellout moves ever! Michael Beinhorn finally had a reason to exist!

evan rachel wood was in some movie i think.

"The song was written because I had been reading the book Lolita and it was very close with Evan Rachel Wood, who’s now my girlfriend, and she came to visit me one day wearing these glasses like Stanley Kubrick in Lolita and part of it because of her sense humour and knowing that people would make their comments about our relationship because she’s younger than me and when I saw her wearing those glasses I had to write a song about it and that’s the way I wrote most of the record."

yes, it's the play button on a Cream compilation!!!

And there goes another one

The reason why I think that is, upper mississippi sh@kedown, is because I initially held off on talking like this, but it's been a week, and I've learned to live with the news that Manson is an abuser. Thus, I'm happy to go back and listen to his best work, and enjoy it as a work of art. Again, I separate the art from the artist, and even with artists who I think are all-around terrible as human beings and musicians -- 6ix9ine, most of all -- I separate the music from the creator, and I see what's in the music rather than the personal life.

ok... I've seen all I need see here *closes manilla folder*

Everyone, this dude was already ethered by treeship, there's no reason to continue engaging

someone here is clearly very bored, but obv so am i

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fa/69/92/fa6992ab038b458c5696eecccc3b1068.jpg

Threadban plz

seems like something that will sort itself organically

i think this gentleman is a parody account

To bring this back to positivity for just a split second, I still think Tim and Ned are totally OTM at the beginning.
...
All of you are OTM in your own ways.

Oh, looks like they've been banned anyway.

just for telling us to love one another. wow. reminds me of someone else...

Everyone, this dude was already ethered by treeship, there's no reason to continue engaging

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lol i thought it was someone he named "brian" but i get it now. anyway i'm doing my part with buttons pressed etc. and i hope all of you are doing the same. we really don't need more of this kind of rat shit here you know?

*knew named

oh hi last few posts haha

tough days for M. Manson, first these revelations and now he racks up 20 fp's in a single day :(

A little fpositivity to brighten your day

What if OTM stood for "Oh, that Marilyn" this whole time?

Moby is gonna show up next

https://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Duran+Duran+Unstaged+Original+Series+American+jNULfqyvR2-x.jpg

is that carrie fisher

Let’s inject some flag postivity in this thread.

shes giving him a direct injection of positivity

https://www.thecut.com/2021/02/game-of-thrones-actor-esme-bianco-marilyn-manson.html

again and again and again- fuck this dude to deepest pits of hell

"One Great Story"

This is unreal levels of scumbag

The former assistant adds that the singer’s room contained a closet-size glass-walled space he called the “bad girl’s room,” that Manson could lock from the outside.

i really hope there is a criminal investigation.

and charges. these reports paint a picture of someone who would make a point of hurting women in any way he can.

thank you, dr. treeship

i'm just saying, it seems like this is a real pattern and he needs to be held accountable

jfc treesh. ya think?

Can’t we all just live with the news that he is an abuser and enjoy his high art instead?

I'll enjoy it when he's in jail.

cancel him straight into the earth's core or something.

I’m honestly kind of shocked at the lateness of this given his high profile and the severity of the abuse. I feel like it implicates a whole mini industry / scene rather than just one individual. I mean it always does, but maybe a bit more so in this case.

Like i understand that a major victim naming a name is the catalyst here but jeez... what has to be at stake that so many people keep quiet / keep it from boiling over for so long.

I wonder what was the final nail in the coffin for Trent Reznor? Was it just that he wanted to sober up and saw him as a bad influence to be around or is did he witness something that made him go “fuck this shit, I’m out of here”.

he's said one of the things that really soured their relationship was manson's autobiography having the story of them assaulting a woman together, which he maintains was completely fabricated, but it's been generally implied by him that manson's drug & alcohol issues were a big part of it too

they did briefly somewhat reconcile around 2000 where manson appeared in the starfuckers, inc. video and performed it with nin once then, but then they were back to insulting each other in the press before long

Also the previous nails were all under 9 inches.

It just gets grosser…

https://pitchfork.com/news/marilyn-manson-accused-of-another-sexual-assault-in-new-lawsuit/

I just want to take a moment to apologize to all of you. My comments in February were incredibly disrespectful and tone-deaf, and I really should not have posted them. You are welcome to ban me again, I find that completely fair. I just wanted to let you all know that I am genuinely sorry for any upset I caused, and I hope you all can find it in your hearts to forgive me to some extent. And even if you don't forgive me even a little, just know that I hold no contempt for you and I even understand, given how idiotic and willfully ignorant my comments back in February were.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

https://www.watchmojo.com/uploads/thumbs720/PH-H-Top10-Best-Designed-National-Flags-720p30.jpg

The LA Times article from yesterday is horrifying, it’s even worse than what’s been alleged so far. ERW’s testimony and story seems to be barely the tip of the iceberg, sadly.

Was there anything new in there? Seemed like kind of a summary of articles that I’ve read in this thread. Regardless, yeah, fuck this dude.

Maybe it was just a summary, but there were a couple women’s stories that seemed new to me. Regardless, pretty awful to see it all laid out like that.

Also, fuck Kanye for playing any part in trying to rehab this slime.

fucking hell https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/marilyn-manson-abuse-allegations-1256888/

jesus

I think with these stories, there's always a varying amount of how many people knew and did nothing and with this one, it's gotta be on the higher end

Jesus Christ the latest allegations are particularly sickening. Fuck this guy forever.