The Dance Music Nobody Talks About S & D

I have some old French "Now!" equivalent called Boulevard Des Hits lying around somewhere. Most of it is either hilarious or total shit. Cock Robin? Kassav? Zouk Machine? Hypnoteck? Liza Minelli?!!!!!! ARRGH!

— dog latin (dog latin)
Posted: 17 March 2003 at 19:18

"let me be your underwear" and "spin that wheel" are like undeniable. people hate fun i guess. also come on those are somewhat talked about. joey negro isn't exactly out of the conversation - that one is on one of his compilations from a few years ago. "spin that wheel" is au courant because of octo octa, at least it was last year.

fuck an idm revival i want an electrohouse revival. no one talks about electrohouse. no one talks about edm. i had the illest sex with this kid in his electric daisy carnival bedroom to an edm mix a few years ago. i don't really want to go to edc but i want an edc friend or two in my life so i can check out mixes now and then.

there's a crowd in my small city that is all about searching for and playing their somewhat obscure "thing" defined by pretty strict paramaters and oh my god that hyper-curated extremely tasteful sound can be so incredibly boring. someone posted a teki latex mix on the mixes thread and ra touted it as this example of like fun vocals mixed with sick beats but the beats themselves were just like raw reduced ballroom ish house - again, "tastefully" fun. kinda boring. i wish people would hype it up a little bit. flirt with being dumb and commercial and obvious. heaven fucking forbid.

i never hear anyone talking about reggaeton and that's like an instant party starter. i wish i had a better entry to it - no idea how to start.

someone loan map a time machine so he can go back to 2003-2004 ILM :)

lol

Revive after hearing 'Let Me Be Your Underwear' dropped into the middle of a Jayda G mix

what mix?

but yes to electrohouse from the mid 00s, yes to vocal Jersey garage house from the mid 90s, yes to Frankie Knuckles and David Morales remixes of r&b hits, please

woooord!

this would fit in a mix with "let me be your underwear" afaict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwnCxnwb4A

Boxedjoy - it's on her Resident Advisor mix, which is a real break-glass-in-emergency party mix and a delight from start to finish.

we need a jayda g thread she is amazing

oh I've had that pinned to my start bar ready for a day of sunny weather, thanks!

i've been buying a lot of strictly rhythm trash lately, including this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaHfFlAb1fI

unfortunately i could not find the "andy and lamboy master mix"

i also grabbed a couple of planet soul EPs and some speed garage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR67KcD1C8s

i know tim f reps for that

analogue cops got me into this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-qY7TpGO04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrDi8BO6J40

I LOVE "Hold Your Head Up High", speed garage CD singles are incredibly cheap on Discogs these days

in fact I ended this mix I made during lockdown with it

sotofett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUwxxBZNs2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r99hvtVNdk

i got the vinyl for like $3

most speed garage is dirt cheap on discogs

some speed garage is not, including this deep deep connoisseur cut by one of my favorite french hip house madmen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja7VJxGWgRs

you'll recognize the sample of course ... and yes that is jess from jess & crabbe ... starts at $50 on discogs!

if you don't recognize the sample ... you better learn!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nulyok6SpzM

another one of my recent discogs dollar scoops

i think the remit of this thread is probably even less tasteful than strictly rhythm trash and robin s ... but that's all i got ...

planet soul couldn't stay away from the speed up slow down dyanmics trick they first found fame with on "set u free" ... one trick ponies!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaOVaxnK9W8

there is a (LOL) "tresor mix" on the flip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaOVaxnK9W8

oh oops the i meant to post this first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgUxFgZksgQ

i love love love love the aggressive voguing in these videos

someone posted a teki latex mix on the mixes thread and ra touted it as this example of like fun vocals mixed with sick beats but the beats themselves were just like raw reduced ballroom ish house - again, "tastefully" fun. kinda boring. i wish people would hype it up a little bit. flirt with being dumb and commercial and obvious. heaven fucking forbid.

Ha this was probably me. I totally hear what you're saying, but for me, the kind of dance music I'm into (ie what I post on the reconstructed club thread as if it were my personal blog) is more colorful and fun than most of the bobbins material. To get reductive about it, I'm always looking for the pure rhythmic adrenaline rush that I get from classic Baltimore/Jersey/Chicago/ballroom/regional etc club music, but also with the fresh takes and crazy sound design from people all over that get lumped into 'experimental' or whatever.

eh "colorful and fun" are personal value judgments, no?

i mean at the end of the day even my best records are boring inert pieces of black wax, it's the collective experience of clubbing that is colorful and fun, and that can be soundtracked by literally anything as long as the crowd is right

Of course! That's what I was saying, I get why map would think a Teki mix isn't fun, but to me it's way more fun than 90% of the mixes I hear.

xp

fwiw experimental club is not 100% my thing either but i appreciate your passion for the form jordan and hope you keep posting it to ilx

like i think i found out about the towhead crew / new york dance music comps via your posting and i am thankful

<3

And I enjoy slow filling in the giant gaps in my knowledge of '80s/'90s dance music history, since I basically started with IDM and drum & bass and went from there.

I have so much trashy Strictly Rhythm and West End vocal stuff, the one that I used to love dropping was a weird Marty Thomas record 'Resurrect Me'. Can't find the particular mix on YouTube, sadly, but it's a stomper and people used to love it. Nice to match with Underground Ministries or some Bobien to bring the crowd some Jesus for a sec lol

wow this thread had a nice fun revival! i wish i could do a discogs order, like i need more robin s. in my life.

i was a little too harsh abt the teki latex mix it's actually really good. sorry if i've been unnecessarily antagonistic to you jordan.

I really like that Teki Later mix but it's a very different thing and deliberately so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cSqRMioRik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ct5puqTSi0

Basile Boli and Chris Waddle conquering europe with finanical doping and geordifranglais

I'd say pretty much all of Rupaul's Supermodel Of The World album but that same as with Basile and Chris might belong more on the regular bobbins thread don't know where the boundaries are or who drew them, probably someone from the government.

damn this partyboi/kettama set RULES

the visuals and clothes really sell it

and partyboi's killer dance moves ofc

I suppose the premise of the thread less about what is and isn't 'tasteful' and more about what gets written out of narratives (and narratives are constantly rewritten in any case).

I thought about Fluke the other day for the first time in years, who had some pretty big tracks in the 90s that no one gives a shit about these days (one Bjork remix aside).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arnm0FoT1qE

It's Sam Riney from 1988 and its a trip down vibing avenue

xp you know on a similar note i was thinking abt audio bullys and a lot of middling stuff the music press tried to push in the late 90s ... whatever happened to the audio bullys?!? were they as "big" as fluke or was that just a trick mixmag perpetrated on us?

I think as dance music has lost its roots in gay and minority communities and become more mainstream, more heterosexual, more sanitised, a lot of this stuff has been consigned to being untrendy because of how it codes

Like the 18 yr old me who had to fight to drag his indie pals to electrohouse nights in 2006 would never have imagined that 2020 would be filled with bros loving business techno

And that shows in the dance music that's popular now I think - divas and disco are out, big basslines and trance influences are in

(Excuse my disjointed thoughts I'm very hungover atm)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR67KcD1C8s

i know tim f reps for that

― the late great, Saturday, 12 September 2020 19:41 (yesterday) link

One big bad boy of a record.

Octo Octa draws for it a bit too, though I first discovered it over two decades on The Dreem Teem's In Session Vol. II mix (still one of the best DJ mixes ever).

I think as dance music has lost its roots in gay and minority communities and become more mainstream, more heterosexual, more sanitised, a lot of this stuff has been consigned to being untrendy because of how it codes

― boxedjoy, Sunday, 13 September 2020 16:36 (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't really agree with this TBH. I think that historical narratives tend to treat the queer / minority dance scenes very well and downplay the more widespread / white / hetero / basic karen sounds. The issue with minority marginalisation is that the narratives are always playing catch up, e.g. people genuflecting at the alter of "black london" but they always mean historical scenes and not whatever might be going on right now.

Like I've been talking with brad and deej a bit about prog house stuff like sasha & digweed and the drum club and hardkiss etc. And I remember that simon reynolds had a line maybe in the early 00s about how there was "now" (i.e. then, but this anecdote probably holds true) a hot market for old obscure 'ardkore releases but no one cares about the drum club, and he meant that as a dismissal of the drum club but it's actually part of this broader historical trend. It's often the whitebre(a)d stuff that was big contemporaneously but doesn't get to the level of "transcending" club music (your Orbitals or Underworlds for example) who end up with surprisingly low historical profiles.

It's interesting to try to predict whether, say, Bicep will be remembered in twenty years time or if people will be like 'lol what's a bicep'. I suspect the answer to that doesn't have much to do with the quality of the music either way.

you know who cares abt hardkiss and drum club?!?

;)

Me obviously!