Classic or Dud - That Petrol Emotion?

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...and does anyone even remember these guys?
and have you YOU ever been Scumsurfing on a putrid tide?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

dudderama

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I wouldn't go as far as calling them CLASSIC, but they're nearer that than dud. 'Babble' was a decent album.

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I actually had that album, listened to it more than a few times, and I can't remember even a single song now except Big Decision. So very likely - dud.

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

a handful of genuinely great songs ("Cellophane," "Sensitize") and two solid albums (Manic Pop Thrill, Fireproof). but Dud overall, at least relative to The Undertones.

summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

They had huge gig attendances in Ireland around the time of Chemicrazy. Nearly everyone who was into Document/Green era REM used to like TPE but Steve Mack got annoying after a while and their light went out before the bog standard fare of Fireproof. Manic Pop Thrill remains a fantastic record -- AMG only gives it 2 stars despite a glowing review. End Of The Millenium Psychosis Blues was ignored on release but gathered a cult reputation later on. For me though Manic Pop Thrill though tops the poll, one of the great guitar records of 1986 and probably Sean O'Neill's best work overall, Undertones included!

David Gunnip, Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

They've certainly faded away and they certainly were huge here in Ireland back when I were at college. They did go off the boil later on but the albums up to End of the Millenium Psychosis are good with some great bits. Worth the tiny price I paid for them in more recent years.

tigerclawskank, Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked Babble a lot at the time. Great drumming. "Big Decision" is nice, and I still love "Creeping to the Cross." My college roommate, a devout Christian with a fear of ungodly rock'n'roll, was especially fascinated by that song. He'd never put it on himself, but he kept asking me to.

Jesse Fox (Jesse Fox), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I really, really loved Manic Pop Thrill when it came out, but I just had to go look at AMG to remind myself what songs were on it. For me, they were one of those bands where the mediocre follow-ups reflected so poorly on the band that I sort of didn't trust what I liked about the first one in the first place. So, fond memories, but I traded all those albums years ago. Also, one of the worst band names ever.

Lee G (Lee G), Friday, 14 March 2003 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"Creeping Towards the Cross" -- reason enough for the band to have existed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 March 2003 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Harumph!

I concur, my good man.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 14 March 2003 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

i loved this band more than most in the late 80s/early 90s.
hence why the reunion confirmation is excellent news for this old'un.

mark e, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 09:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I wonder if the reformed Undertones could open for them...

dlp9001, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 09:50 (fourteen years ago) link

"Natural Kind of Joy" is very Macca, Geir would love it.

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 10:00 (fourteen years ago) link

There were . . . okay. Why is it always CLASSIC or DUD? What about "meh"?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:24 (fourteen years ago) link

It began five years ago. Things were more polarised then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:25 (fourteen years ago) link

21 years ago this week Babble was released.

djmartian, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I really like "Big Decision," lame rap and all.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

touring the States!? Playing in Brooklyn soon. O'Neill bros & Steve Mack at least, I assume.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 October 2009 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

I've got the first couple of albums, always heard that was pretty much the only thing you needed from them.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 29 October 2009 03:45 (twelve years ago) link

You'se'd rather sail the ocean.

Erol "Bomber" Alkan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 October 2009 03:46 (twelve years ago) link

O'Neill bros & Steve Mack at least, I assume.

only damon is involved of the bros.
the rest of the currentl line up are from various incarnations.
still great live.
despite the general consensus re the first couple of albums, i actually listen to their last album, final flame, more than the others as there are some classic TPE tracks.

mark e, Thursday, 29 October 2009 10:14 (twelve years ago) link

damon -> damian

mark e, Thursday, 29 October 2009 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

people are wrong.

chemicrazy still stands up as a good'un.

mark e, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:48 (ten years ago) link

lol, i recently downloaded a copy of chemicrazy, because it really intrigued me at the time, but i hadn't heard or thought about it in ages. wondered how it'd hold up.

turns out it's pretty damn good! the vocals are sometimes too reserved and wispy for my tastes, and the lyrics are occasionally goofy, but i love the hooks, variety, and attention to guitar textures. and the vocals to rise to some amazing moments, like the massive "sweet and slow" harmony at the climax of "sensitize". weird attempt to fuse sonic youth-style guitar fuckery, pop songwriting and dance propulsion, far more successful than it should be. like almost everything on it, but "hey venus", "sentitize", "scum surfin'" ("total trash" reinterpreted?) and "sweet shiver burn" are standouts.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:07 (ten years ago) link

while that is indeed a cracking cover (i am biased)

thats not the best picture.

its the picture of steve mack on a beach wearing a huge FOETUS t-shirt.

major label commercial hopes vs lead man giving the finger via a well chosen t-shirt = message for the fans

and yes, i think this album totally stands up amongst the other guitar based albums of the day.

mark e, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:18 (ten years ago) link

i honestly don't know if it's a fuck-you gesture or an indie cred grab. this was on the heels of PWEI's trash-culture-worshiping this is the day..., and the "hey venus" video features calculus cat and jimbo (panter) tees. circa chemicrazy, the band's fashion choices seem to exist at the intersection of baggy and grebo, making that "hey venus" vid a tough watch.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:28 (ten years ago) link

6 music right now : live set from reading .. i had no idea when i revived this thread.

sounds amazing ..

mark e, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:32 (ten years ago) link

the band's fashion choices seem to exist at the intersection of baggy and grebo

spot on

steves surfer dude image vs the undertones love for jeans and t-shirt definitely created a strange clash of styles

hence why i think i loved them that little bit more

mark e, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:37 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

how is this not perfect? should be power pop canon. but is it? their name has been sullied but everyone on earth needs that first album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSgcDU1qHWM

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 02:53 (nine years ago) link

this guy i don't know from 9 years ago totally OTM:

For me though Manic Pop Thrill though tops the poll, one of the great guitar records of 1986 and probably Sean O'Neill's best work overall, Undertones included!
― David Gunnip, Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:53 PM (9 years ago)

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 02:55 (nine years ago) link

+1 for Chemicrazy

mr.raffles, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:54 (nine years ago) link

TOP3:
Sensitize > Hey Venus > Scum Surfin

mr.raffles, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:00 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

as always, scott tells the truth.

i found the original vinyl pressing (app. there are differences between the 1st press and subsequent pressings) of the debut album in a local charity shop for 50p, and damn, its still fucking ace ...

mark e, Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:39 (nine years ago) link

'natural kind of joy' = perfection ...

mark e, Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:49 (nine years ago) link

haven't heard it for ages but i love that album. 'a million miles away' is very cute as well y?

the drawl of the mc's could be farts (NickB), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:07 (nine years ago) link

'can't stop' is probably my favourite thing on it - those guitars cutting it up right at the start! i guess 'mouthy crazy' is the one song that really points towards where they go to on the next record

the drawl of the mc's could be farts (NickB), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:10 (nine years ago) link

also did 'blindspot' is a deadringer for gorkys, steve mack even sounds welsh on it

the drawl of the mc's could be farts (NickB), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:11 (nine years ago) link

steve mack even sounds welsh on iti

hahah !

damning praise ...

but seriously, there are folks on ilm that ignore this band who i genuinely believe would be all over this bands archive if they heard this stuff ...

mark e, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:48 (nine years ago) link

'can't stop' is probably my favourite thing on it - those guitars cutting it up right at the start!

john peel session version of 'cant stop'= ear shredding guitar perfection

mark e, Friday, 11 January 2013 00:28 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

ok, due to old school love grooves, i was somewhat skeptical about the post TPE band, the everlasting yeah, however, the album they have self released is fucking awesome.

http://thequietus.com/articles/14401-that-petrol-emotion-interview

there are times the vocals clearly need some extra love a la steve, but, the tunes and sheer excess of guitar fueled vibrancy makes up for the deficiencies.

after all, when there is a track of 8 minutes of krautrock grooves vs TPE guitars : who can complain re such perfection !?

mark e, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:52 (seven years ago) link

never heard of the everlasting yeah before, will give it a whirl based on your enthusiasm

was thinking the other day that john o'neill probably still makes an okayish living off teenage kicks royalties

yeovil knievel (NickB), Thursday, 16 April 2015 22:27 (seven years ago) link

another day, another dose of love.
for TPE fans (Fireproof era), this album really is that good.
holla nickb if you need a taster.

mark e, Friday, 17 April 2015 17:39 (seven years ago) link

seven years pass...

seems like someone believes there is a demand for their roli mossiman produced noise filled follow up to their debut, BABBLE.

https://shop.lastnightfromglasgow.com/products/that-petrol-emotion-babble-35th-annversary-vinyl-lp-coming-soon

mark e, Thursday, 16 June 2022 19:47 (two weeks ago) link

I remember liking that one, not sure if I will pick up this vinyl reissue.

Jimmy Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne Mary-Anne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 June 2022 19:59 (two weeks ago) link

just the fact that its back out there with their cover version of 'dance you ass off' is good enough for me.

mark e, Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:34 (two weeks ago) link

Soul Deep is an underrated B-Side too iirc

Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:36 (two weeks ago) link

marks e & g otm, 'natural kind of joy' is great.

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:38 (two weeks ago) link

re 'soul deep' : absolutely.

had never heard it until this evening.
so so good.
TPE vs b-sides was always a thing.
so many gems were hidden away on their cd singles.

mark e, Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:41 (two weeks ago) link

what ya gotta do in this day and age / ya gotta reissue, repackage, add bonus tracks

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:21 (two weeks ago) link

Are there any plans to re-release Manic Pop Thrill?

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Friday, 17 June 2022 03:41 (two weeks ago) link


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