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...I've only got a minute soundbite of this (available to anyone who wants it if you email me).... but it sounds fucking atrocious.

There's a toe curling rap on there, and once again, she's using Mirwais... so we get more squelchy synths and vocoders.

You'd have thought she'd have learned her lesson with that Bond theme......

The artwork looks pretty good for a change, though.

russ t, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 12:19 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

But that Bond theme was the best single she'd put out in five years.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 14:36 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

whilst I thought Music and the associated singles were all a pile of wank, Die another Day, I thought, was her weakest single since 'Gambler'. Awful song, awful remixes. And it just wasn't a Bond theme...... when I heard she was doing a Bond theme, I imagined it to be in the vein of I Want You, her collaboration with Massive Attack (IMO her best record by miles).
Die another Day - it was a great video, though.

russ t, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:12 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

But that Bond theme was the best single she'd put out in five years.

What Dan said. Therefore this new single must be genius.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:15 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Caution focus group spoiler but I liked this comment and it needs quoting re. Russ' post.

"If sci-fi filmmakers of the 1960s had dared to suggest that Bond movies were still being made in the twenty-first century, they would probably also have filled the theme music with space noises and robot voices."

i.e. yes it is a Bond theme.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:18 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I like that quote, where's it from?

It may not be the song so much, it's the Mirwais production I findhard on the ears. Sounds dated already. I was hoping she'd have moved on from him this time.

russ t, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:18 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It's from the Freaky Trigger Pop Music Focus Group VII Russ - published this Saturday on a website near you!

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:20 (sixteen years ago) Permalink


But Tom, the Bond series has become an anachronism, so shouldn't the theme song be so as well?

That Bond single couldn't get over itself, yuck.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

if the bond series theme song wanted to be anachronistic, then they'd all be soundtracked by the propellerheads and then we'd have to kill ourselves

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:22 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i dont think you can call Mirwais dated really* - the stuff he's been doing the last 3 years no-one else has really done to the same level in pop, with the possible exception of Fischerspooner (*unless you accept that sounding 'dated' is part of the plan)

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i want to hear the Jacques Lu Cont produced stuff for Madonna. didnt she reject material produced for her by Brian Transeau too or am i thinking of someone else?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:03 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I thought that "Die Another Day" worked really well in the context of the movie - the psychology of torture soundtrack. Also, Mirwais rules. Go have sex to "Disco Science" (nb - do not try with Fischerspooner songs).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:07 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I find it interesting that Madonna sounds more typically 80s now than she did in 1984. Anyway, a good thing for sure. :-)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:07 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

and what's the new single called?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:07 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"It's Okay To Wear High Heels Whilst Doing Yoga Now"

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20030311/i/1047418255.3556843573.jpg

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:25 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

So I heard "American Life" today... The backing track's fairly interesting electro, but the lyrics are among the worse I've ever heard. And Madge: YOU CAN'T RAP!!!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:01 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i fear it

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:20 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

the lyrics and delivery make debbie harry on "rapture" sound like krs-one

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:24 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

A friend just wrote me this about the song: It just struck me that the rhythm of Madonna's "flow" (if that's what you want to call it) exactly the same as Gerardo's in the first, Spanish part of "Rico Suave."

Also, does Madonna even consider herself American?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 23:04 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The rap bit's the only bit I like. It sounds like she's trying to see how bad a first single from an album she can put out and still get to Number 1 - the bar was fairly low already when she foisted "Music" but this is just something else.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 23:35 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yanc3y's friend is OTM.

I guess I'm not bored with these production tricks. I liked and still like Music but then again I'm a girl who grew up in the 80s/90s so I have a high Madonna tolerance. Objectively, this could be the beginning of a dud period for Maddy or it could all work out fine. I do think parts of the song are really nice and I just today got it stuck in my head; always a sign...

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 00:32 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i liked Madonna when she was Noo Yoik trash tryna act all sofistacated. this tea-guzzling grouse-shooting electropop quintagenarian doesnt go down quite as well...(insert gag here>

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 00:50 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Madonna could release a 3LP set of armpit farts and I'd probably still buy it. Fortunately, "American Life" is much better than that.

paul cox (paul cox), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 05:08 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yanc3y.... Debbie Harry's rap on Rapture is just...... bliss. A seminal moment. A seminal record, too.And how far ahead of their game were Blondie? When was Rapture? 1979 - 1980?!?!?!

The only thing I like about this whole American Life project of Madsonna's so far is the album cover (which is fantastic) - at last she seems to have roped in a decent designer. For a lady who apparently collects art and has a ...err.... high appreciation of it.... why are her record covers always so nasty and tatty?

russ t, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:50 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

the prob with Harry's rap 'on 'Rapture' wasnt never so much the delivery (cute) as what she said, hysterically bad lyrics!

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:13 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

As compared to

"Breaks to win and breaks to lose, but these here breaks will rock your shoes!"

or

"You're in a place where the nights are hot, where nature's children dance and set a chance."

or

"I said a hip hop, the hippie the hippie to the hip hip hop, a you dont stop, the rock it to the bang bang boogie say up jumped the boogie, to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat."

Blaming old skool for bad lyrics is like blaming AC/DC for making the same song over and over.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:25 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Is there anywhere I can dl this from the web?

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:30 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Certainly.

http://www.toto691.co.uk/Madonna_American_Life_192.mp3

Set your standards VERY low and maybe you won't be disappointed.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:08 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

come on now Tuomas, none of your examples can compare to the true horror of:

Fab Five Freddie told me everybody's high
DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind
Flash is fast, Flash is cool
Francois sez fas, Flashe' no do
And you don't stop, sure shot
Go out to the parking lot
And you get in your car and you drive real far
And you drive all night and then you see a light
And it comes right down and lands on the ground
And out comes a man from Mars
And you try to run but he's got a gun
And he shoots you dead and he eats your head
And then you're in the man from Mars
You go out at night, eatin' cars
You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too
Mercurys and Subarus
And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars
Then, when there's no more cars
You go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet
Face to face, dance cheek to cheek
One to one, man to man
Dance toe to toe
Don't move to slow, 'cause the man from Mars
Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars
Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall
He's gonna eat 'em all
Rapture, be pure
Take a tour, through the sewer
Don't strain your brain, paint a train
You'll be singin' in the rain
I said don't stop, do punk rock

Well now you see what you wanna be
Just have your party on TV
'Cause the man from Mars won't eat up bars when the TV's on
And now he's gone back up to space
Where he won't have a hassle with the human race
And you hip-hop, and you don't stop
Just blast off, sure shot
'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars
And now he only eats guitars, get up!

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:16 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I know I ask this every time but my friend continually informs me and swears blind that Lu Cont is going to be producing some of Madonna's new stuff.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:19 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I like this. Reminds me of Supertramp.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:20 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The rap on here is better than most of her lyrics.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:22 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Are those the original Blondie lyrics? They're fuckin' hilarious! How could blame anyone for such a brilliant wordplay?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:25 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Add a "you" there...

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:26 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind

i think this bit is wrong, i'm sure she says 'DJs spinnin I said 'my my'

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:32 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I said don't stop, do punk rock

ahem ahem "do THE punk rock"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:34 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I love the Rapture lyric.
What a time that must've been in NYC.... Warhol, Harry, MelleMel, Basquiat....
Stevem- I think it's 'my my', too.

russ t, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:48 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"do THE punk rock"

Dance crazes that never quite made it, part 86: PUNK ROCK!

"A one, and a two,
that's how you do,
the PUNK ROCK,
don't you dare to stop!"

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

the 'Rapture' rap is loveable and has great kitsch value but its the ultimate in lyrical naffness for me

and yeh Russ, you had block parties in the Bronx bopping to The Clash and Kraftwerk - sounds amazing

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Thanks edward. My standards are very low anyway.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 13:08 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Rapture" is one of the greatest singles ever.

The link above to the Madonna track doesn't work, and all the p2p sources I've tried have resulted in a loop of what seems like Madonna's voice saying "what the fuck are you trying to do?"

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:09 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It worked for me Sean - maybe it's been taken down :(

(It's not very good but the rap is great!)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:10 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

After 3 listens, the chorus sort of creeps up on you.
Sort of like a deadly fungus.

russ t, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:40 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Sean I will email it to you if that's yr correct addy.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Still haven't heard it. But how I hate that stringy, wrinkly old crone - I will do my damnedest to make sure I dislike everything she ever releases from this moment forth

j0e (j0e), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:58 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Teeny: yes please! Thank you!

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:27 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

fyi, anyone who hasn't heard the single yet can stream it from here:

http://www.hmv.com/servlet/HMVApp/Registration.StartUp/createSessionId?ct=pd&sku=352697

it's kinda dire

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:30 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

On its way, Sean...

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:45 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

oh except yahoo mail bounced it because it was too large. If you're still interested, tell me a better address (at my bust.com addy if you like). sorry for the thread derail, everyone.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:50 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Sean - do you use filepile. There's a copy up on there - search for 'american life 192'. If you don't then say and I'll email my password details.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:57 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

(hint: the Madonna song's better)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 28 March 2003 21:17 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'd think that would be true almost by definition, JBR.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 28 March 2003 22:37 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

ever HBO sunday night theme song so far has suuuuuuuuuckt and this ain't no exception

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 29 March 2003 00:59 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"American Life" vs. "American Pie"

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 29 March 2003 00:59 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

when I first heard Madonna's "Music" (which initially sounded like a bass drum and Madonna saying the word "music" over it while cackling at strippers) I went through the most depressed three days of my life, and truly believed civilization was at an end.

But I like the song now (I think the extreme intake of cough syrup had something to do with my initial reaction to "Music"), so I'm hopeful that this song (which sounds FRIGHTENING) won't drive my to leap off something.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 29 March 2003 01:02 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

it reminds me of the new Malkmus

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 29 March 2003 01:07 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

When icons hit middle age, then?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 March 2003 01:38 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

when icons dick around on guitar

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 29 March 2003 01:46 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

plus Malkmus is heavy into yoga now also

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 29 March 2003 01:48 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The most 80s nostalgia single EVER. The Brett Easton Ellis revival begins HERE (or with Mary Harron really I guess).

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 29 March 2003 02:04 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Brett Easton Ellis revival begins HERE

Needs more cocaine.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 March 2003 02:47 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

on one hearing this is my favourite madonna single ever

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 30 March 2003 12:48 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

THe Bret Easton Ellis revival began two years ago, in my living room, you fools.

I can't find the Madonna track for download anywhere, I just keep finding fakes. Who te hell does stuff like that? That's a sad life.

I can kind of do that thing she does in that picture, except I never tried with heels, I think I will do that today at the gym. The heels I mean.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 30 March 2003 18:14 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

This is one of the worst songs I've ever heard in my life.

Evan (Evan), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:05 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

''on one hearing this is my favourite madonna single ever''

ha! I bet you haven't even heard the thing.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:11 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It kind of is her best single ever.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:27 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I am going to have to download it and give it another listen, because I did not get anything at all out of it the first (and only) time I heard it.

Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:56 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

someone stole ilm's ears!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 31 March 2003 00:50 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I downloaded it and still haven't listened to it, so Yanc3y is totally right.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Seriously, what a way to throw any pretense to artistic integrity out the window.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:03 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"artistic integrity" is a pretty way of saying "I'm a self-absorbed asshole".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:05 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The video sounds like the best Madonna video ever, too!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:15 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Did that Focus Group ever get published?

TMFTML (TMFTML), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 17:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

nine years pass...

Some of those minor/major things work great. That one just sounds like a cassette that was left in the sun.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:39 (six years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

"In the teaser, Madonna describes Madame X as “a dancer, a professor, a head of state, a housekeeper, an equestrian, a prisoner, a student, a mother, a child, a teacher, a nun, a singer, a saint, a whore,” and “a spy in the house of love.”"

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Madame X - she's been all of us

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:30 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8PtBzdiZ3g

Madame X:

01 Medellín [ft. Maluma]
02 Dark Ballet
03 God Control
04 Future [ft. Quavo]
05 Batuka
06 Killers Who Are Partying
07 Crave [ft. Swae Lee]
08 Crazy
09 Come Alive
10 Faz Gostoso [ft. Anitta]
11 Bitch I’m Loca [ft. Maluma]
12 I Don’t Search I Find
13 I Rise

petey v, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 16:41 (five days ago) Permalink

must say i am intrigued by "killers who are partying"

petey v, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 16:45 (five days ago) Permalink

same but "dark ballet"

single is both trend-hopping and deeply weird, but it's probably the first time i've been more intrigued than indifferent toward a lead madonna single since.... "hung up"? this is no "hung up" but

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:10 (five days ago) Permalink

Y'all enjoy. This is v bad.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:34 (five days ago) Permalink

it was also produced by mirwais which is extremely weird to me

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:35 (five days ago) Permalink

appears that a lot of the album has been produced by mirwais.

mark e, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:11 (five days ago) Permalink

Madonna finally relents and works with a prior collaborator and she chooses Mirwais?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:19 (five days ago) Permalink

Didn't she try working with William Orbit again and it didn't work out?

Not really feeling the new single. There's a nice breezy feel to the verses but the chorus feels clumsy and the song is two minutes too long. It's definitely stronger than her last few leads but that really isn't saying much.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:21 (five days ago) Permalink

i mean i'd say the majority of stuff she made with mirwais was good

of course i wish it were stuart price, alas xp

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:22 (five days ago) Permalink

Hung Up is prob my favourite single of the 2000s so that’s a high bar.

This is a bit dull but it’s curious enough to pique interest about the album. I don’t mind Mirwais. “Nobody’s Perfect” remains incredible.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 19:32 (five days ago) Permalink

i said it was no "hung up"! it absolutely isn't, i haven't even decided if i like it lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 19:39 (five days ago) Permalink

OK, kids, let's see what's got you hopped up.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:10 (five days ago) Permalink

I'll say her Spanish is pretty decent. That's the best thing I can say about the track.

daavid, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:33 (five days ago) Permalink

^^^ fair reaction

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:37 (five days ago) Permalink

Me and the newly-out lodger were just dancing round the kitchen to this, and we've decided we like it. Extra points for the Usha Uthup reference, too. https://youtu.be/k8f5Itra2Wo

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:39 (five days ago) Permalink

time to dig out that Mirwais album then I guess.
and, to be fair while driving home, when the song came on the radio (Sara Cox R2 : EXCLUSIVE build up etc), it was rather enjoyable ..

mark e, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:56 (five days ago) Permalink

too funny. will never intentionally listen again.

dyl, Thursday, 18 April 2019 02:14 (four days ago) Permalink

I listened to it four times in a row, hoping I could dig anything out of it. I couldn't. How many times is too many times to still give Madonna the benefit of the doubt?

Then I thought, young people don't give one fuck about Madonna. And her older fans just listen to Lady Gaga now instead. She's in an interzone desperately attempting to stay on-trend when she could probably do something else with far more success.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 April 2019 04:14 (four days ago) Permalink

And her older fans just listen to Lady Gaga now instead.

i'm not sure this is accurate

dyl, Thursday, 18 April 2019 04:47 (four days ago) Permalink

Me neither; I know an “older” Madonna megafan who cares little for Gaga (despite my recent attempts to get him into Joanne).

That said, I’m not sure how much he cares about “new” Madonna, either...

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 18 April 2019 05:02 (four days ago) Permalink

I'm talking about moms and shit who probably still buy cd's, but a couple a year. Not us (although I now listen to way more Gaga than anything Madonna is making).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 April 2019 11:51 (four days ago) Permalink


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