LL Cool J - Classic or Dud?

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Is he still hard as HELL? Is paradise very nice? Does he have some kind of no-dying clause in his movie contracts? Hot or not?

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 03:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

CLASSIC

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 03:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

He'll yet outlive us all. Because he's that type of guy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 03:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic. Classic for being what, 17 years old when he made Radio? That's nuts.

Best moment = 12" versh of "Rock the Bells". It's such a slamming relentless track. It's the perfection of braggadocio style. Sounds like the whole thing was recorded without a pause. He seems to be audibly running out of breath towards the end. Also, the way he growls at the end of each segment. just like Chuck Berry (sampled on "go cut creator go"!) on "Too Much Monkey Business".

I just bought a used copy of Walkin' With A Panther the other day because I wanted to hear it again ... and it was the frickin' censored version. Now I gotta take the thing back. Still, great record.

Why did he start out "Mama Said Knock You Out" w/ the line "don't call it a comeback"? 'Cause Walkin' With A Panther had hits!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 03:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well the second is "I been here for years", isn't it?

Classic, BTW, J.Lo missteps notwithstanding. "Doin' It" is one of the best singles of the 90s.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 03:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I get to ask again: when did LL Cool J become Will Smith?

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 03:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

amateurist do you hate "all around entertainers"?

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 03:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

damage damage damage damage

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 04:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

classic then dud. exemplifies it. should have died before he got old.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 04:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic, if only for "Mama Said...." the song. He absolutely tears across that track.

"Listen to the way I SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAY your crew."

Nick H, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 10:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I want to meet him so I can say "ladies love cool james" in a variety of increasingly silly voices until he goes INSANE. Or twats me

j0e (j0e), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 11:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

he is a great example of how ladies do love cool james's.

classic now dud (although the track he did about booty (i think it was with ludacris????? was pretty cool) so i guess he is classic with the occasional daliance in to dud

james (james), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 14:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lately, massive dud. Early on, classic.

maria b (maria b), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Are those beefcake videos meant to be totally over-the-top?

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

anyone who thinks LL fell off should go download "the ripper strikes back" right now

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, every video he's made is supposed to be over the top.
He's such a little post-modern prankster!

(Jess, one hot song does not a career revival make)

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

I mean all the low-angle shots of LL rubbing his bare chest and licking his lips....

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic. The Rod Stewart of the rap world. Unstoppable, immediately identifiable, even when it's crap, it's LL's crap, and could be no one else's.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

he doesn't need a career revival! he never went anywhere! he's the only rapper who's managed a (successful) career for this long! stop hatin!

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like his stuff, tho not nearly as much as I used to (he changed, not me). I think he does that kiss-his-finger-and-toss-kiss-to-"girl" thing waaay too much, too; irritates the hell out of me.

matt riedl (veal), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

"the ripper strikes back"..... downloaded. mind unchanged, sorry.

maria b (maria b), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic, on Adam F's album Kaos he totally ace's it on 'The Greatest of All Time' pure bragging bullshitting goodness...and that bass sound...woah. :)

Maimonides (Maimonides), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 11:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

still hot!!

the art teacher in my high school wz ll cool j's cousin.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 12:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

three years pass...
First song off new album:

"It's LL and Santana"

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

my defense of LL on this thread is a little extreme

strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Untoppable as a stage performer.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Extremity in the defense of LL is no vice!

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Extremism, I mean.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Not everybody can be as even-tempered and realistic about LL as K is, strongo.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I gradually have realized that LL is a really horrible actor.

Zwan (miccio), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Gradually?

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

It took a while to get over my desire to enjoy his presence in films like Deep Blue Sea, Halloween H20 and Mindhunters.

"eenie meanie minie mo, which muthafucka's the next to go?"

ant@work.com, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Fools! After the mountains have crumbled to dust and the western winds blow your ashes across the horizon, El El will still be there. Forever.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, I got the new album with Canibus on it (Cloak n Dagga), and he's STILL dissing LL. I mean, LL knocked him the fuck out like six years ago, and he still hasn't gotten over it. Is there a word for someone who just keeps trying to fight after they've been beaten and forgotten? (By the way, that album's pretty shitty, though often inadvertantly hilarious).

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

The new LL/J-Lo single is horrible.

LL has been corny as hell for years.

LL knocked him the fuck out like six years ago

LL hasn't knocked *anyone* the fuck out since like '91

Chris Bergen (Cee Bee), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

second round KO was so much better than any of LL's disses against canibus.

i love LL though.. he's a pip.

does he still have that skinny moustache? that freaked me out for real.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

second round KO was so much better than any of LL's disses against canibus.

so true

Chris Bergen (Cee Bee), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm just playing, I actually forgot L.L. was great in Woo. "Take off your clothes."

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

And for the record, too classic to ever be anything but classic. Radio was the first compact disc I bought.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

classic for facing down fox news' bizzare use of an old interview. wtf to fox's snippy put-down of a response (we "wish him the best with his fledgling acting career")

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 April 2010 01:54 (fourteen years ago) link

fledgling since the movie Toys, yeah.

Jack traded Milky-White to the troll for a magical (remy bean), Thursday, 1 April 2010 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link

stay classy, fox news network.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 April 2010 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TqQ0rLY-Qo

scott seward, Saturday, 26 January 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

don't sleep on LL in Maine. might change your life...

scott seward, Saturday, 26 January 2013 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

awesome

is he playing a school dance??

xxx heady xxx heady (haitch), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:08 (eleven years ago) link

I have a house in Brooklyn, I live in Queens...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:13 (eleven years ago) link

is there such a thing as "live in Maine"?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

history maine

some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

this is fantastic.

mr.raffles, Saturday, 26 January 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

"memorieeeees..." bahahaha this video is the best.

mr.raffles, Saturday, 26 January 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Album signing at Rough Trade in NYC, noon next Friday. I may go to this (or let a co-worker go in my place, depending on how the day goes). More importantly, hope the album as a whole turns out to be a surprise - I always wished he did another one that lived up to his best, and I never would've expected a Q-Tip collaboration.

birdistheword, Thursday, 29 August 2024 19:19 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8PhpifGSo

birdistheword, Sunday, 1 September 2024 03:45 (one week ago) link

The only thing I’ve read about this album so far that’s even slightly tempered my excitement is the fact that Eminem is on one track. But otherwise I can’t wait to hear it.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 1 September 2024 04:00 (one week ago) link

Since I’m on my phone I didn’t know that was the track you posted, ha ha. I just saw the url, no thumbnail.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 1 September 2024 04:02 (one week ago) link

Loving Proclivities. This thing feels dense

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 1 September 2024 18:27 (one week ago) link

Eminem song is good

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Sunday, 1 September 2024 20:12 (one week ago) link

xps hah, no worries! I've got mixed feelings about Eminem, but some Eminem fans I know really like that track. I kind of like hearing the two together because it highlights their individual strengths, and Eminem claims LL Cool J was a big influence so it could be useful to hear closely with that in mind.

birdistheword, Sunday, 1 September 2024 22:22 (one week ago) link

LL also kills it on this song

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Sunday, 1 September 2024 22:30 (one week ago) link

Nice

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Thursday, 5 September 2024 02:41 (six days ago) link

Really good Whiney interview with LL!

One of my favorite random moments on Conan happened when LL was promoting a movie (forgot which) and he said something like "I mean it, this is a good movie. I'm not just saying that like I've done in the past. I've lied to the people Conan...but not anymore. Rollerball SUCKED!"

birdistheword, Thursday, 5 September 2024 03:31 (six days ago) link

Thanks, unperson

Kinda wish LL and Eminem would team up for a whole record. Would keep LL rapping and touring and would give Em the new creative direction he desperately needs.

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 5 September 2024 07:20 (six days ago) link

this is good!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2024 11:58 (five days ago) link

Yeah the whole album is great

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Friday, 6 September 2024 12:55 (five days ago) link

It's fantastic

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 6 September 2024 13:19 (five days ago) link

Just read the interview, congrats Whiney

Also that is the best commentary I’ve seen on “Accidental Racist”

laughter is the best weapon (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2024 13:32 (five days ago) link

I'm in genuine shock. Some of Q's beats and sounds outdo what he did on the last Tribe album.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2024 14:07 (five days ago) link

Yo this is GREAT

laughter is the best weapon (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2024 15:43 (five days ago) link

It's sounding amazing yeah

imago, Friday, 6 September 2024 15:46 (five days ago) link

Listened to it yesterday and was blown away and am diving in again now. Q-Tip made him a billy woods-level art rap album and he's absolutely risen to the challenge.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 6 September 2024 16:22 (five days ago) link

Don't call it a comeback!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2024 16:23 (five days ago) link

LL and Busta Rhymes rapping over Can's "Halleluwah" on "Huey in the Chair"!

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 6 September 2024 16:41 (five days ago) link

He'll, Eminem is tolerable

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2024 16:58 (five days ago) link

*hell

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2024 16:58 (five days ago) link

Yeah my first thought with that Can sample was I actually can't believe it's taken all this time. Unless someone has already used it?

The Eminem track is one of my favs no less.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 6 September 2024 17:00 (five days ago) link

From that interview:

Who is your favourite MC, and who would you most like to do a collab with? BadAlbert
If we’re gonna get down to it, probably Big Daddy Kane. Those first couple of albums were just so crazy and hot in the way he delivered them. The wit, the humour, the banter, the flow, the voice. Songs such as Set It Off or Raw were just flawless to me.

Nice. Big Daddy Kane was incredible in 87 and 88. I listened to those first two albums so much in high school.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 6 September 2024 17:40 (five days ago) link

man tip and ll really matched eachothers greatness on this. incredible album.

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Friday, 6 September 2024 17:44 (five days ago) link

Album signing at Rough Trade in NYC, noon next Friday. I may go to this.

That was a lot of fun. Got there maybe 30 minutes early and even though it was sold out, the line wasn't long at all. I think you didn't have to be there today - the event description seems to suggest that they can set aside a copy that ticketholders can pick up later. LL was very cool - he was gracious enough to sign any records you might've brought besides the new one. Most people didn't, but at least a few people besides me brought a couple records from home.

He's doing another signing at B&N later today at 6pm (they start letting people in at 5pm), but it's a ticketed event and they haven't sold out yet. He's really doing it old school with the in-person events to promote this thing.

birdistheword, Friday, 6 September 2024 18:32 (five days ago) link

Actually same deal with B&N:

If you are unable to attend the event, Barnes & Noble - Fifth Ave will hold your Vinyl and/or CD for seven days after the event. Please contact the store to arrange your pickup.

birdistheword, Friday, 6 September 2024 18:37 (five days ago) link

It's so weird to me that Jay-Z is only two years younger than LL

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 6 September 2024 19:05 (five days ago) link

At this point Jay seems older

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Friday, 6 September 2024 19:22 (five days ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/article/2024/sep/05/ll-cool-j-hip-hop-isnt-underdog-music-any-more

Was completely unaware of what happened here in Georgia and London:

themarkmcdonald: Looking back, was it a bad decision to play "I Need Love" live at Hammersmith Odeon, London 1987?

LL Cool J: "I Need Love" is one of the most important songs I’ve done. It helped usher in a whole new sub-genre of hip-hop with songs that are more skewed to females and the love aspect. I got arrested in Columbus, Georgia for humping a couch to it on stage so I think I can handle booing and coins getting tossed in London. I don’t regret playing it and I’d do it all over again.

birdistheword, Friday, 6 September 2024 19:55 (five days ago) link

I got arrested in Columbus, Georgia for humping a couch to it on stage

Somewhere the loins of young JD Vance stirred.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 September 2024 20:02 (five days ago) link

It was all a dream
used to dry hump a couch through the seam

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2024 20:19 (five days ago) link

Britishes need love

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Friday, 6 September 2024 20:32 (five days ago) link

10 year old me hearing I need love: I was conflicted

Heez, Friday, 6 September 2024 20:46 (five days ago) link

Great album...all the better for coming in under 45 minutes

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Friday, 6 September 2024 20:48 (five days ago) link

That interview was a great read. I liked the line he said about guys at home sharpening their toothbrushes not getting over a beef.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Friday, 6 September 2024 20:55 (five days ago) link

oh my god whiney's interview needed a footnote to explain who martha quinn is

rip me, i'm deaded

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 7 September 2024 03:24 (four days ago) link

The title track is so good it’s almost miraculous

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Saturday, 7 September 2024 21:30 (four days ago) link

I AGREE.

scott seward, Saturday, 7 September 2024 22:07 (four days ago) link

Dang this album jams.

Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 7 September 2024 23:37 (four days ago) link

Someone I know said something very funny on FB:

"Gonna be funny if we have a hip-hop veteran renaissance where making better than usual music without sweating pop is in fashion, until Andre 3000 looks at his pan pipes and goes 'well now I feel like a schmuck.'"

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 9 September 2024 17:09 (two days ago) link

37 years between buying LL Cool J albums. If I do that again I'll be 93.

stirmonster, Monday, 9 September 2024 18:02 (two days ago) link

til Infinity

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Monday, 9 September 2024 18:02 (two days ago) link

This album exceeds any hype about it. So great. For those who buy vinyl, (the Euro pressing at least) sounds fantastic.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 21:37 (yesterday) link

Love this album

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 September 2024 15:41 (two hours ago) link


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