Negativland

(Assuming I don't have other work priorities) I'm probably skipping Spank Rock Sat. night to see/hear this again...

The small David Wills installation in the back was like crumbs in front of a hungry man. My favourite part of the wall of written Wills-isms was "One thing that is very important is that you burp your Tupperware".

It did go on a bit too long I think, 3 hours, but I was also just very tired after a long workweek. Yeah I considered going again tonight too, but I've already got other plans.

Another thing is that I actually got lost on the way there and ended up stopping right in front of a church a couple of blocks away that had physical features of both Christianity and those funny shaped things you see on the top of mosques. Very odd.

You can! This show was the debut of the "Hey, we have 'It's All In Your Head' for sale at the merch booth" show... they're selling the limited edition double-CDs for $12 each I believe. I picked one up last night. You can also order them only via negativland.com, and those are the ONLY two ways you can get this. I picked one up, but -- after seeing this show -- will probably actually listen to it a week later, just because, well, my brain is already saturated with It's All In Your Head as it is. :D

That was the first song I ever heard of New Order ever when I knew I had fallen in love with New Order.

if it's the track I'm thinking of (simple 2/4 plonky stomp), that's a sample of the first track on Moebius & Renziehausen's Ersatz

"Pump gag"

http://blogs.citypages.com/ctg/2006/05/art_party_negat.asp

Negativland is doing their "It's All In Your Head FM" tour near me next month...anyone know anything about it?

I've seen it an it's freaking great. It will make you think, (especially if you are an atheist like me). You must go. Negativland are very dear to my heart, though I only really think about them intensely about once a year.

I've heard that Mark Hosler from Negativland will do a lecture at the ZXZW festival in Holland. Which already has a killer line-up.
www.zxzw.nl

Bimble, I'm impressed.

Spoke one of the organizers. There will also the premiere of a new Neagtivland film.

I'll unite with you, reatard. Any idea what the show will be like? I'm guessing that the shows will have a similar style to the 2005 <i>It's All in Your Head FM</i> shows, but different content, right? I listen to that live release more than almost any other live release from the last five years.

Color me excited.

Saw Hosler give his lecture last night at the Knox Museum of Art. Then everybody went to Senor Taco with him. Then bowling!

I'm envious!

Wish I had pics.

Between the return of U2 and this it's like it's their time all over again.

I filed a police report today (minor thing--car got rifled through, nothing taken it seems). The officer handed me the report number and his name etc. on a piece of paper, at the bottom of which is printed "©2001 TEN-8, INC." Naturally it made me want to hear A Big 10-8 Place. Man I love this thing (every couple of years anyway).

"The door opens automatically, and the first thing you see is the orange
carpet inside 180...and you'll see the dog juice, the horrible dog juice..."

which album/video has the Weatherman's story about fixing the playboy channel in Rossmoor?

The half-hour of sound manipulation they did at La Luz is on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN1z58l88dU

i have the guns cd single which has 2 versions which are good but i wish they would come out with a greatest cd collection.

still absolute solid gold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHY9iSdoqK4

do u know how many time zones there are in the soviet union

ELEVEN

That's ridiculous. It's not even funny.

guns

Negativland have posted on Facebook that Ian Allen, a key early member who had to leave the band in the late eighties due to continuing health issues, has passed on after complications from surgery. Very sad news to hear -- he introduced the original group to Don Joyce, was a key force behind the design and concept of A Big 10-8 Place, pushed for the tape loop approach and more.

Direct link on FB

https://www.facebook.com/Negativlandland/timeline/story?ut=43&wstart=0&wend=1422777599&hash=-8355825573272387065&pagefilter=3

Aw, jeez. RIP.

this does not seem like a band that would use Facebook.

http://boingboing.net/2015/01/21/r-i-p-negativlands-ian-alle.html

Very, very sad news to hear -- Negativland reports that Don Joyce aka Crosley Bendix and many more, and the host of "Over the Edge," has passed on. A tremendous loss.

https://www.facebook.com/Negativlandland/posts/1098963353464741

When he and Negativland discovered their mutual love for “found” sounds, an intensely collaborative creative partnership was cemented. It continued non-stop for the ensuing decades, with Don endlessly scanning the airwaves of radio and television, along with his massive LP collection, for new material, day by day, week by week. There was often a TV and a radio on in his room simultaneously, cassette recorders always at the ready. And as an extremely shy and often quite reclusive person, radio was a perfect medium for Don. He could reach thousands of people each week without having to deal with very many actual humans, just as he preferred it. Creating art was not only Don’s full-time pursuit, it was literally his life’s work. He had made it clear to the group as recently as a few weeks ago that he was happy and satisfied with what he had been able to achieve in his life, and were he not able to continue to work, his life would feel as good as over.
Don Joyce’s singular editing style was laced with profundity and silliness in equal measure. His work was that of a dada humanist, able to wring unforgettable sentiments and statements out of material which originally spoke something entirely different. Hugely inspired by both the droll radio of Bob and Ray and the reckless free-form of the Firesign Theatre, he created a wicked language of repurposed purple prose which has inspired legions of other collage artists over the past three decades. He was the father of the form. One need only to listen to his work on “Time Zones” (on the Escape from Noise album) or “Piece of Pie” (in the No Business CD/book) to immediately tune into his unique wavelength.

Fuck.

RIP. "It's All In Your Head FM" was one of my highlights from the first Big Ears.

Had a chance to talk a bit about him:

http://blog.sfgate.com/loaded/2015/07/23/don-joyce-radio-maverick-and-member-of-negativland-dies-at-71/

good post ned

https://kpfa.org/ midnight pacific tonight - over the edge

sorry for yr loss, MP

on my drive home from work this evening I saw a man who looked a lot like Don standing on the corner of Grand & Broadway, and I got sad.

Thanks Jon, much appreciated. Awfully kind of the band to share that out on FB.

A tribute:

https://kpfa.org/episode/the-hear-and-now-july-23-2015/

i didn't realize until recently that former member chris grigg was the guy behind the general midi -> YM2612 GEMS composition system for the sega genesis!

I had absolutely no idea this band was still around.

The Over the Edge archive at archive.org is overwhelming; I guess they're working directly with Joyce's assistants to eventually host every single OTE episode. Looks like they're up to 1,300 archived so far. Incredibly helpful for browsing individual series or time periods (finally having some metadata and show descriptions for all of these is amazing). Strongly recommended stuff – jaw-dropping run of great work, esp. given each episode is 3+ hrs long.

looking up Negativland stuff on YouTube I got directed to this video, where Hosler talks about the U2 lawsuit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2h1TOfeVFA

it's interesting because, during the lecture, he questions who in Athens Georgia it was who even brought the record to U2's attention, and realizes it must have had something to do with REM, particularly their manager who happens to be IN THE CROWD

the part where Casey Kasem goes "This is American Top 40, right here on the radio station you grew up with, Music 103 OH FUCK" is still incredibly funny

also reveals how they got the Casey Kasem samples in the first place: some fan gave them a tape after one of their shows

Mark is a real charming, entertaining guy IRL ... really easy to talk to. There was a slightly awkward incident in the past couple years, where one of the new members of the band was mislabeled as Mark Hosler in the caption of a promo photo on the website of a venue they were performing at ... however, they do look a bit alike.

hahaha they do

also thanks sleeve for posting this -- re: Rather Ripped records featuring pics of lil Hosler

https://devorahostrov.blogspot.com/2020/08/the-story-of-rather-ripped-records.html

i found a test pressing of 'escape from noise' in a fleamarket here last week. never owned a copy before and it's got the big thick booklet too, super happy with my find!

Good find! Did it come with the 'Car Bomb' bumper sticker? I'm pretty sure the dude in the record shop I bought it in swiped my one. I've never fully got over it.

Alas no!

I believe I might have a spare sticker ... also I think you can buy the sticker for like $3 from their mail order site? ... mail order moved from Contra Costa County to NC in the past couple years so there may have been changes.

back in the day I had that sticker on my Subaru, doesn't seem like such a good idea these days tho

thanks for sticker heads up. 35 years on it shall be mine!

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probably not such a good idea having it on yr car in this era, but i don't drive so shall stick it elsewhere.

Stoked for this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM20UEek7IY

the video projections were a nice addition to the performance ... though at various points the music felt a bit anemic in comparison. It's nice to see Mark still going though. A friend told me, "they should just retire already," but sometimes there are still things you want to say/do even if you're old? There were some great parts in the set (not counting the joys of the Weatherman at the end, which was like, the "playing the hits" encore), but other parts where I was like, "uhhhhh idk what you're trying to say here? I kinda get it, but that's maybe not what I would see as the most salient aspect of what I think you are trying to say?" ... there were also a few samples that I felt like didn't really "work" for me, but they were used frequently so I felt like they were "supposed to work" but maybe it's just me. The audience seemed happy, which was nice.

the video projections were a nice addition to the performance ... though at various points the music felt a bit anemic in comparison. It's nice to see Mark still going though. A friend told me, "they should just retire already,"

― sarahell

seriously, at this point they're just cashing in, who's gonna pay $300 a ticket for a seat in the nosebleeds

the show I saw in Eugene last year was great, fwiw (I do think the live video element added something)

seriously, at this point they're just cashing in, who's gonna pay $300 a ticket for a seat in the nosebleeds

Huh? Negativland is a $22.50 ticket here at LA Arts&Archive.

/sarcasm

(I assume)

Then I can't wait until Negativland goes back to basics on their next album.

aren't they playing some spot with numbers in the name that is kinda DIY and very much not up to code and probably shouldn't be promoting shows as much as they do if they don't want to get busted, though maybe LA is nicer about that shit than some cities?

not to be a dick about it, just like, if they get busted, and you know the people running it (because it looks like they are cool), give them my contact info lol.

/sarcasm

(I assume)

― sleeve

yeah just like. sure. negativland are going to "retire" on the massive income from their phenomenally successful recording career. because "retire" is what people do, not "get too sick to work and die".