Robert Palmer: S&D

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Search: "Can We Still Be Friends", "Bad Case of Loving You", "You Are In My System", the cover of 'Double Fun'

Destroy: Self-penned liner notes, the cover of Devo

But then, if you can come up with a Michael Des Barres S&D, that's cool too.

tarden, Saturday, 23 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Search: collabs with GARY NUMAN!!!! "Johnny & Mary" = greatest song ever written!! Also "Riptide" and (obviously) "Addicted to Love"

mark s, Saturday, 23 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

more Robt Palmer songs that are good are "Every kind of people", "Sneaking Sally thru the Alley", that's about all i can think of. Michael des Barres - Silverhead's "16 & Savage" is OK for that kind of crap, the only other album I heard is the 1st Detective album which was every bit as exciting as you'd imagine ... but didn't they do the song under the closing credits of WKRP in Cincinatti? which I remember liking.

duane, Saturday, 23 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Favourite Robert Palmer song ever: 'She Makes My Day'. His version of 'Not A Second Time' is OK, too. Destroy? I'm sure you'll think of something.

the pinefox, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Search: "Some Guys Have All The Luck". Something very appealing about this to me as a 13-year-old - I think it just sounded odd and deranged. RP chewing his way through the words, something about the brash, jerky production (not that I can remember precisely what it sounds like anymore).

Destroy: "Simply Irresistible". Au contraire, Bobby.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

search: rock'n'roll: an unruly history, writings on la monte young

destroy: his television fandom

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Search: the video for Simply Irresistable. I don't think I'll ever truly escape my fetish for Models That Look Like Dancing Corpses.

Destroy: yeah, so, um.

Dave M., Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Search: Robert Palmer the music critic.
Destroy: Robert Palmer the musician.

Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Of course it's very uncool to admit liking Robert Palmer, but I do think the "Woke Up Laughing" collection is quite good, it being remixes and extensions of his previous album forays into Brazilian, African, Caribbean, etc. musics--with some superb musicians and sultry arrangements. Nevertheless, I can see very well why people hate him--I might, too, if it weren't for his occasional willingness to squash the lounge lizard tendencies and experiment in somewhat odd directions.

X. Y. Zedd, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
If someone smeared a vocoder over the vocals to 'I didn't mean to turn you on' and released it on DFA Records it'd be one of the hippest electropop tracks around. If you're that someone, do it and send it to me.

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I agree with Mark S. "Johnny & Mary" is stellar. As is "Some Guys Have All The Luck." Also that reggae song about Olivia Newton John.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The "Clues" lp is in every dollar bin, contains "Johnny and Mary" as well as the fab "Looking for Clues" AND the Numan collaboration.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 30 January 2003 00:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Still need to hear the Numan collaborations. Hm...

R. Palmer also gets credit for being a massive Comsat Angels fan and in fact persuading Island Records to sign them for a time in the late eighties. Good deal.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 January 2003 01:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
Jesus god Robert Palmer rocks.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 10 May 2003 07:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Clues" is great, isn't it? I love his falsetto.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Saturday, 10 May 2003 08:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

('Clues' vs 'El Loco') vs ('Riptide' vs 'Eliminator')

dave q, Saturday, 10 May 2003 10:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

And having in fact finally heard the Numan-era stuff -- "Johnny and Mary," "Looking for Clues," even a cover of "I Dream of Wires"! -- the man definitely was some kinda genius.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 May 2003 13:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
just got his first one "Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley" and it's pretty fucking rad. total mix of Dr John and Sly & the Family Stone. especially that 12minute last track "Through it All There's You". could easily be on There's a Riot Going On (granted, it's probably trying to copy "Thank You for Talkin' Me to Africa".

also, did anyone notice Kanye's all female orchestra on this weeks Saturday Night Live w/the slicked back hair?

Dickset! Dickset! Disckset! (jaxon), Monday, 10 October 2005 20:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Search: "Johnny & Mary," his covers of "Every Kinda People," "I Didn't Mean To Turn You On," and "You Are In My System," the third and best Power Station single, "Communication."

Destroy: "You're Amazing," "Simply Irresistable," and anything in which strings featured prominently.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Isn't there a whole thread on Johnny & Mary? Maybe it's even yours, Alfred? No, you're on it, but I think it's Miccio's.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I played chorus to Anthony's lusty enthusiasm.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I also remember Haikunym striking a bittersweet note.

Ah, here it is:
Robert Palmer's "Johnny & Mary": C or D?

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

S: "You Overwhelm Me," one of the sexiest ballads of the period

D: "You're Amazing," similar title but inferior in every way imaginable

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 10 October 2005 22:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Lookin' For Clues" had a great video (caveat: I haven't seen if for at least 20 years).

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 October 2005 22:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

To my knowledge ILM is the only place where Palmer has been subjected to the revisionism he deserves.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 October 2005 22:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
Just got "Clues." Verdict— AWESOME. Absolutely great album! Thanks dad!

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

listening to his best of now.

he was great!

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

The Island 50th anniversary issue of MOJO rated Pressure Drop. I downloaded all his 70s albums and was pleasantly surprised. His first album made beautiful use of The Meters, and his cover of "Pressure Drop" might be the best aside from the original! The other albums are just as great. "What's It Take" is a particular favorite from Secrets. The production is uniformly clean and excellent. Hanging out in Jamaica and the Bahamas with money, women, good looks and good music, it must have been nice to have been Robert Palmer in the 70s. These albums should totally be reissued. The last three are listed as reissued by Universal in 2007, but I haven't found a trace of them.

Sneakin' Sally Through The Alley 74
Pressure Drop 75
Double Fun 78
Secrets 79
Clues 80

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 15:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

I put on Clues on my iPod recently, still can't believe how great that album is. "Sulky Girl" is just so bang on-the-money bad ass it defies words. That's like...on a whole other Tina Turner level of bad ass or something. I went through a bit of phase with Palmer some years back, probably should revisit.

Imagine being an elevator (Bimble), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 21:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

My parents' first date was a 70s-era Robert Palmer concert, which I take as a positive sign for my life in general.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 21:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

It seems like Universal may have canceled the scheduled reissues, because I seriously can't find anything. I did find a box set of Double Fun, Clues and Some Guys Have All The Luck for $21 at CD Universe. Like the first two albums which are also available, they're probably not remastered. It's connected to Adult DVD Universe so you can add to your order the Dave Navarro-produced porn, Broken, starring Sasha Grey (upcoming star of Steven Soderbergh's The Girlfriend Experience). Palmer's ghost would likely approve.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Jesus god Robert Palmer rocks.

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Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 January 2010 16:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Addictions Volume II is pretty uneven as far as compilations go, but the remix of Sneaking Sally is worth checking out - funk guitars from here to who knows where.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 4 January 2010 16:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

So, how interesting were his '70s LPs? (Haven't read this thread yet, actually; maybe there are answers up above.) Anyway, been listening to Some People Can Do What They Like, a Christgau C+ that hit #68 in Billboard in 1975 (his third charting album but first one to go Top 100), and I really like Side Two, a lot of which actually reminds me of War, of all bands -- especially "What Can You Bring Me" and "Hard Head." And then "Off The Bone" seems deeply indebted to African music, years before Paul Simon/David Byrne/Peter Gabriel had the same idea. He also covers (and gets his first charting single out of) the Belafonte calypso "Man Smart Woman Smarter" on Side One; seems like Palmer maybe had a thing for regularly remaking real or imagined Caribbean songs (mostly reggae I think) before he broke big, but I'd need to research the specifics more; might be wrong about that. Covers Don Covay ("Have Mercy") and Little Feat ("Spanish Moon") here, too.

xhuxk, Friday, 15 October 2010 18:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

just got his first one "Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley" and it's pretty fucking rad. total mix of Dr John and Sly & the Family Stone. especially that 12minute last track "Through it All There's You". could easily be on There's a Riot Going On

Jaxon upthread, five years ago. I need to get that one. And yeah, Dr. John + Sly = War, more or less. (Remember liking "Sneaking Sally," the song, when college radio used to play it back in the early '80s. Also seems like Palmer started out pretty prolific -- three LPs between 1975 and 1976, which was the actual year that Some People came out.)

xhuxk, Friday, 15 October 2010 18:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

A little surprised you haven't found the Vinegar Joe albums while Austin scrounging. He was kinda overshadowed by Elkie Brooks. There's a YouTube video of the band in Germany, hysterical if only for the Deutsch introduction of "Proud to Be a Honky Woman."

Gorge, Sunday, 17 October 2010 17:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

I listened to "Clues" today for the first time in one million years (back in the day, it was my older cousin's favourite lp), and I quite liked it.
Strange how all those synths sounded so familiar after all this time. The Gary Numan cover is awesome but there's plenty of nice little songs like Woke Up Laughing.
Next stop should be Sneakin' Sally, I presume.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

machine-tooled electro-boogie

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

wrt genre exploitation, robert palmer always was there first and was pretty good at it. each album was just slightly ahead of the wave imo. like on that thread above? palmer invented 80s huey lewis in like 1979 (bad case of lovin you).

these jorts are rapha, so suck it (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

His taste in electro R&B was exceptional.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

i've listened to 83's Pride (where 'you are in my system' comes from) more than any album in the past 3 months. so amazing.

jaxon, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's got a tropical, r'n'b, new wave vibe that i'm in love with. other stuff in this vein i've been digging are Rough Trade, Via Afrika, Belle Stars, Grace Jones, Rupert Hine

and he sings in Urdu!

jaxon, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

this one kills

jaxon, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Silver Gun" is truly amazing - must get this too.

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 28 October 2010 07:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Decided Double Fun from 1978 isn't as compelling as Some People Can Do What They Like -- lots of dead space, most pointless being a cod-reggae cover of "You Really Got Me." But I like "Every Kinda People" (#16 single, Palmer's first real hit, optimistic like early Sly or happy War songs); "Night People" (good smart cover of Lee Dorsey's great New Orleans disco move from the year before, written by Alan Toussaint); and "You're Gonna Get What's Coming" (a true hard rock song -- definitely used to hear this on rock stations back in the day, but had no idea it was him; probably figured it was Bad Company or somebody like that.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 7 November 2010 22:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

The cover always freaked me out as a kid -- never seen such amiable rakishness.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 November 2010 22:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

SPCDWTL is a really great album...'One Last Look' is one of the great blue eyed soul tracks and his version of 'Spanish Moon' pisses over the Little Feat version for me...shame people only think of him as some sexist old crooner...much better than that IMHO....

sonnyboy, Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

i love dorsey's night ppl, i didn't know palmer covered that one too.

potholes and esso assos (Hunt3r), Sunday, 7 November 2010 23:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

just got his first one "Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley" and it's pretty fucking rad. total mix of Dr John and Sly & the Family Stone.

yes! listened to it for the first time last time and it's like the best Little Feat album there never was. which now makes sense

wiki sez: 'Palmer is backed by The Meters and Lowell George of Little Feat. Multiple reviewers have commented that Robert sings confidently on this album despite being backed by more accomplished musicians such as Lowell George, Art Neville and New Orleans singer-songwriter Allen Toussaint.
Recorded in New Orleans, Louisiana, New York, and Compass Point Studios in Nassau'

herbal bert (herb albert), Friday, 22 April 2011 12:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Sneakin' Sally is great: Get Outside is such a great song and the final 12-minutes long track is truly hypnotic in the best way possible. Also he covered From A Whisper To A Scream, one of my personal faves.

Marco Damiani, Friday, 22 April 2011 13:13 (six years ago) Permalink

I like Sneaking Sally Through The Alley but my favorites are Pressure Drop, Double Fun and Pride. Everything that comes after Riptide is kind of meh.

Leopard on the Cheetos Bag (MintIce), Friday, 22 April 2011 13:23 (six years ago) Permalink

The trend is irreversible.

My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 April 2011 13:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Hopefully yes!

Marco Damiani, Friday, 22 April 2011 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

i bought pride a couple weeks ago and have been playing it almost every day. the drum programming is insane. i'm obsessed with the title track. one song even sounds like a prototype for lifelike/kris menace sidechain house

am I diversified? (blank), Thursday, 21 July 2011 04:23 (six years ago) Permalink

ugh anyway "say you will" and "the silver gun" have a big boisterous low end + synth flickers/gurgles that remind me of maximalist post-crydamoure french house (or even some nudisco)

but the vocals and songwriting are the big draw of this album (besides previously mentioned drum programming). the first music i got into when i was 2 or 3 yrs old was stuff like hall & oates, wham!, tears for fears.. i would have played the shit out of pride if i had had it then.

am I diversified? (blank), Thursday, 21 July 2011 04:33 (six years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Ten years gone today. Love his music and lots of what I've heard about him as a person, not least the story where one of his girlfriends walked into his hotel room to find him taking a bath wearing a full length leather coat and drinking from a champagne bottle.

Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:12 (four years ago) Permalink

On the day he died, I saw a Delorean parked (legally) in a handicap spot. Seemed symbolic.

bendy, Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:21 (four years ago) Permalink

Reports published after his death were coy about what brought on his heart attack. Drugs?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:34 (four years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

good one

espring (amateurist), Friday, 21 March 2014 22:45 (three years ago) Permalink

oh wait that's the remix/remake

this is the one

am I wrong to hear some african guitar music influence on this one or is it one of those funny confluences?

espring (amateurist), Friday, 21 March 2014 22:46 (three years ago) Permalink

Nope. In the liner notes to the greatest hits album on which this resides he mentions the very thing. My first exposure to this music btw.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 March 2014 22:59 (three years ago) Permalink

that's good to know. but oddly the african influence seems more pronounced on the version _not_ on the greatest hits thing.

anyway, i feel vindicated. a good feeling.

palmer made some of the more thoughtful (and tuneful) art-pop of the period. he doesn't get enough credit for this.

espring (amateurist), Friday, 21 March 2014 23:03 (three years ago) Permalink

glad the Todd Terje-Bryan Ferry cover of "Johnny and Mary" is exposing people to the song.

He was at his best with electro R&B. I can't think of any white Englishman who would show the restraint, taste, and production choices with which "You Are in My System," "I Didn't Mean to Turn You On," and "Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming" are lavished.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 March 2014 23:06 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah, nice drum and synth programming on those. why don't we just crown him god and devote the rest of our lives to his name?

espring (amateurist), Friday, 21 March 2014 23:08 (three years ago) Permalink

pride (the album) is so awesome, i like it much better than Clues.
the gary numan cover on clues starts off awesome and then just gets ridiculous. I wouldnt have minded a whole album of angsty apocalyptic palmer.

brimstead, Friday, 21 March 2014 23:34 (three years ago) Permalink

he acquits himself so well on this tricky Jermaine-Michael duet. He doesn't go for histrionics:

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 March 2014 01:41 (three years ago) Permalink

rp was the greatest curator of music from like sneakin sally to late 80s. he was always 1/2 step ahead in bringing sounds to pop. i like clues better than pride, but i like the meters' stuff off of sneakin' sally better than almost anything else- in a genre that isn't really my thing.

and he always seemed to have figured out how to live better then anyone, save for an ilxor or two.

a nation filled with lead (Hunt3r), Saturday, 22 March 2014 02:34 (three years ago) Permalink

"than." oh and also i disagree on that song where he disses fitness chicks, cause they rule.

a nation filled with lead (Hunt3r), Saturday, 22 March 2014 02:35 (three years ago) Permalink

great youtube, that keyboard solo is close enough for jazz. :)

didn't little feat back him on some of dem early albums or am i just fantasizing? there are more than a few albums I wish little feat were on (the wild the innocent and the e street shuffle for starters).

espring (amateurist), Saturday, 22 March 2014 02:57 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah, Palmer's first album has Lowell George playing all over it (plus a Little Feat cover and another LG co-write) and his second album has pretty much all of Little Feat as his backing band.

some dude, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 13:00 (three years ago) Permalink

The Andy Taylor memoir has a couple anecdotes about the Taylor boys partying and booching with Palmer, whose dress and hair sense and ability to look impeccable after a night of partying surpassed Bryan Ferry's apparently.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 13:07 (three years ago) Permalink

Some People Can Do What They Like (1976) is tremendous. some funky funky shit.

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 14:07 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah the Little Feat/Palmer combinations are amazing (on top of everything else). I said elsewhere that great as that Little Feat box set is a dream box would have included a slew of their backing sessions for others and the Palmer stuff is top of the list. Phill Brown, producer/engineer for a ton of folks, had some great anecdotes about those sessions in his book Are We Still Rolling?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 14:16 (three years ago) Permalink

And they backed up Akiko Yano on her debut album

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 18:39 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

you know i hadn't noticed before today (when I listened to the album on headphones) how bizarre/awesome the female backing vocals on "hey julia" are... "doodle doodle doo..."

display name changed. (amateurist), Sunday, 25 May 2014 00:11 (three years ago) Permalink

anyone know how the whole little feat/akiko yano/hosono collabs came about?

display name changed. (amateurist), Sunday, 25 May 2014 00:11 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

just listened to the yet-to-be-mentioned-on-this-thread "best of both worlds" for the first time in years and, damn, those are some weird chord changes. he briefly changes keys in the middle of each verse, from B to D, in a way that's unexpected, awkward and pretty damn cool.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 05:28 (three years ago) Permalink

as for his interest in african, caribbean, brazilian, etc. music, here's a pretty good interview where he delves into it with some musical depth.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 05:39 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

really enjoying Clues and Pride

Heez, Friday, 17 March 2017 23:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

somehow I never knew about Clues. What a great album.

akm, Saturday, 18 March 2017 05:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

calstars, Friday, 26 May 2017 23:09 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Link to Alfred's recent writeup since he hasn't gotten around to it yet:

Under Heaviside Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 July 2017 00:21 (three months ago) Permalink

i somehow managed not to hear "every kinda people" until like two or three years ago. what a great song! i love the steel drums. definitely the sort of soft rock i go for.

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Sunday, 23 July 2017 01:03 (three months ago) Permalink

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