Green Day: C/D?

would've seen it if it ever came here. definitely dig billie joe going into acting, makes sense

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Billie Joe Armstrong leads an all-star cast in the candid and heartwarming comedy, Ordinary World. Perry (Armstrong), a former punk rocker, is ten years into his band's "indefinite hiatus" and is struggling with his adjustment to the real world, which includes working in his family's hardware store. When Perry's hotshot attorney wife (Selma Blair) and precocious young daughter forget his 40th birthday, his brother (Chris Messina) takes pity and gives him the money to throw a huge rockstar blowout in a fancy New York hotel. At the party, Perry's punk past clashes hilariously with his grown-up reality as he encounters crazy former bandmates, including best pal Gary (Fred Armisen), and an old-flame-turned-manager (Judy Greer), who offers him a chance to revive his stalled career, all in one outrageous day!

lol this sounds/looks even worse than that Strummer movie

people getting upset because they felt that Insomniac was just "more Dookie"

it was the 90s, every artist was supposed to mature and throw on some cellos or discover accordions or ondes martenots or whatever on album 3 or 4

Oh, the cleverness.

Bump some #FatherOfAll to get going pic.twitter.com/erl8BTFCAT

— Green Day (@GreenDay) February 7, 2020

(WE DID USE BUTCH WALKER THOUGH)

album's at least a little livelier than their last few exhausted directionless things

I had to.

_Uncut Rock_ (2020, dir. the Safdies, starring Adam Sandler as Billie Joe.)

— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) February 7, 2020

not going to lie, i kinda liked their uno/dos/tre chaos.
yeah, it ended in a full on meltdown, but there are some decent tunes on the trilogy.

This new album is so wildly awful that it give me secondhand embarrassment but it's also hilarious and somehow better than their last several records?

it doesn't SOUND like any kerplunk-onward members are still left in the band and yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18EmOXEsmlw

honestly they should just go full rockabilly

Sounds like Weezer if Weezer was influenced by Havana 3am. Which is to say ... fine.

Their music is very real, and you can tell it all comes from them, which is what sets it apart from what other pop acts are doing.

not going to lie, i kinda liked their uno/dos/tre chaos.
yeah, it ended in a full on meltdown, but there are some decent tunes on the trilogy.

― mark e, Friday, February 7, 2020 1:11 PM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

putting myself through the trilogy a second time is one of the most depressing things i've ever done for the sake of a review. even the good songs sound empty

21st century breakdown is the best green day album though

this ad campaign has definitely done its job.

...in that it's made me listen to it. wow is this really Green Day? I mean, it's not good but I've got to applaud them for not sounding anything like their usual selves

wait... what

why is the second track the same song as the first one? Is this some In A Silent Way shit?

It’s because it’s 100% Pure Uncut Rock. No trap beats. No Swedish songwriters. Do you want Realness, or do you want fake pop crap?

Okay I'm at work and I'm 5 songs in and... Okay, the ad campaign was ridiculous, and the change of direction is ridiculous and the whole thing is daft, but... Am I kind of secretly enjoying this? Much more than whatever I heard on that awful trilogy anyway...

i've also been having fun revisiting nimrod instead of listening to the new record. "redundant" is a great power-pop song

new record better than the trilogy otm

I always listened to Nimrod at arm's length. You know that point in your teenage years where you're painfully aware that your favourite band might have sold out because suddenly everyone's singing along to the songs? (not that people didn't know all the words to Dookie, but the difference between being a 14 y/o listening to Dookie and 17 y/o listening to Nimrod was significant)

but like you Brad, I'm going back to Kerplunk and the stretch from 80 to No One Knows is a serious madeleine moment

He would also state that the lyrics are about "the life AND death of the party" and the "lifestyle of not giving a fuck."

this album sounds too intense for me, might steer clear

i've always felt nimrod was a little uneven with its mix of genre shuffling and the classic green day sound you know and love, but "uptight" gets it just right by being both. maybe their best song

insomniac: 32 minutes, not one of them wasted

this was my gateway band to rock music that wasn't the beatles or beach boys and every time i revisit insomniac i remember 1) being confused out that it came out so quickly after dookie, like was this a real new record? 2) having that dubiousness sort of confirmed by the runtime even though i bought the cassette and didn't actually know how long it was but the songs really whipped by. "no pride" was my favorite at the time 3) thinking "geek stink breath" was such an ugly, gnarly song yet so so catchy and every time i turned on mtv i hoped to catch the (gnarly, ugly) video

insomniac confused me a bit too. not sure what the release schedule was in the UK but I was still quite young at the time so the gap between the two albums didn't feel that short

i think i ended up getting dookie for christmas '94 (in my stocking, which now that i think about it, is a very funny joke by my parents), so by the time october '95 rolled around i was like "fuck i gotta buy another green day album now???"

I had a few friends totally into that Gilman Street scene. One of them had not one, not two, but three Green Day tattoos ... before "Dookie" came out. That's kinda like getting a Raffi tattoo right before he released "Singable Songs for the Very Young."

Anyway, I was never into them, but I did see them play a small club show right when "American Idiot" came out. They played the whole album and introduced the expanded band, then played a long greatest hits set, and I thought, huh, I guess they do have a lot of great hits. It was a really good show.

One of them had not one, not two, but three Green Day tattoos ... before "Dookie" came out.

lol i think this is so rad

I sort of feel like this is the most effortless Green Day since Warning, I kinda dig it if I'm being honest.

xpost lol though I suppose there was good reason to believe that Green Day's ceiling was being as big as Op Ivy

I'm still regretting my three pre-Schubert Dip EMF tattoos

i think i ended up getting dookie for christmas '94 (in my stocking, which now that i think about it, is a very funny joke by my parents), so by the time october '95 rolled around i was like "fuck i gotta buy another green day album now???"

― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:50 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Hah, me too. Well, my (French who lived in the US) grandparents brought it with them as a gift. Apparently they'd gone into a shop and asked the clerk what a 14 y/o boy would want. I'd seen Green Day doing 'Welcome To Paradise' as a live stream on Top Of The Pops only weeks ago and had been enthralled. I don't think I'd ever seen actual rock music being performed in that particular way and I thought it was incredible.

21st century breakdown is the best green day album though

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 1:26 AM (seventeen hours ago)

i don't care at all about green day beyond thinking the dookie singles are pretty good but i really wanna know what could possibly be the justification for this

haven't heard the album but I'm gonna just be humoured by the idea it's a pvmic

If I was going to challops a best Green Day album I'd go for Warning. It hit a sweetspot being more mature than the jacking off/sniffing glue era but without being as dull as everything that came after.

i don't care at all about green day beyond thinking the dookie singles are pretty good but i really wanna know what could possibly be the justification for this

― ufo, Wednesday, February 12, 2020 2:31 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

strongest melodies of their career, all in a row. my previous fav was warning

also, idk, i think the “american idiot but MORE” gambit works, the songs are all really tight and propulsive and full of surprises, even the ballads (there’s nothing as turgid and unendurable as “wake me up when september ends” for instance), and it helps that the singles from it weren’t turned into wallpaper by radio overplay. the “story” is incomprehensible and pointless but i connect way more with its apocalyptic vibe than american idiot’s “anti-bush record that is secretly a breakup album” thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzJf2PPbJeQ

Kerplunk! is a great record but it seems the pre Dookie stuff doesn't count as part of their discography

(there’s nothing as turgid and unendurable as “wake me up when september ends” for instance)

This song invades my head every time I'm outside and it starts raining (here comes the rain again/falling from the stars) and I just wish someone would put me out of my misery.

If I was going to challops a best Green Day album I'd go for Warning. It hit a sweetspot being more mature than the jacking off/sniffing glue era but without being as dull as everything that came after.

I don't feel like this is challops in the least, that's such a great record.

it's fair to say Green Day album cover art has been on a steep and steady decline since Dookie (which has fantastic cover art). 21st CB has one of the worst album covers of all time.

Not sure if we included 'International Superhits' in the Great Millennial Colour Drought' thread