Rush: Classic or Dud?

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No one has asked this one yet (and I have a sneaking suspicion I know why, but I'll ask it anyway)...

What do you think of them crazy prog-rockin' Canadians, then? Super? Sucky? Somewhere in the middle? Please write your response in the form of a haiku.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

"Why I Like Rush: A Haiku" by Alex in NYC

Rush Rock Like No One Ex-Cept May-Be Pla-Ce-Bo Neil Peart, Wow, He's Good.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Rush -- i get high on

you and my spacey invade

ers get by on you

Mark, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Hi points - the drum beat of "Tom Sawyer" (as everyone knows by now), & one of the best fake-Led-Zeppelins ever in "Working Man" (great gtr solo!). Other than that, they can go & read the complete works of Ayn Rand. (I'd rather attempt to eat the entire works of Ayn Rand).

duane, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Hilarious fact abt Ayn Rand: when she went round in the 60s giving lectures on how unfettered capitalism was the BEST BEST BEST, she wd wear a black cape covered in gold $ signs!!

mark s, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

As a band: dud. As a rite of passage: classic.

scott p, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I'd like Rush a lot more if they wore black capes covered with gold $ signs...

duane, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I think Rush sucks. Any band where the drummer writes the lyrics is bound to suck. Do you know what RUSH stands for? "Running Under Satan's House." I did learn something in school... "Anti-Christ Devil Child," "We Are Satan's People,""Knights in Satan's Service," etc.

andy, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

---------> "Je suis Le By-Tor."

"Non. Vous etes Le Chien d'Neige." <------------

"Les pommes frites! Mon dieu!!!"

Jean-Luc Godard, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The good woman claims to like Rush, although I've never seen any evidence of this.

Dirty Vicar, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The only Rush track I've heard is 'The Spirit of Radio' from 'The Permanent Waves alb (1980). It was the nearest thing Rush had to a hit single in the UK (top thirty?) Now I don't know what Canadian radio was like back when this single was released, but English pop radio at the time, which for me basically meant Radio One, was horrendous. The 'Breakfast Show' was the station's prime time biggie, only entrusted to Radio One's biggest 'personalities'/tossers - Noel Edmonds, Dave Lee Travis, Steve Wright, all endlessly yakking over the few pop hits they played in-between their 'banter'. So the lyrics to 'Spirit of Radio', clearly written to suck up to radio station DJs, were not only v. horrible, but also a million miles from the truth. Here's the opening verse:

"Begin the day with a friendly voice/A companion, unobtrusive/ Plays the song that's so elusive/And the magic music makes your morning mood"

Dud for that alone.

Andrew L, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

they were good before
Lee's voice dropped, and Lifeson
stopped using distortion

tarden, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Rush are r0x0r, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Check out the k-kewl sartorial elegance displayed on the back cover of "2112" if you don't believe me. Stylee! Neil Peart's RAD, d00d (etc etc)

x0x0

/<-r/-\/>, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I am proud to say that I once voted Rush the greatest band of the 80's. They had a lot of good moments, 'Xanadu' appeared in Tommy Vance's poll for the top ten rock tracks of all time throughout most of the 1980s. I think they peaked with 'The Weapon' on Signals (1982). They differed from their contemporaries in being more interested in playing around with the time-signature of their tracks. But ultimately, in an oft repeated pattern, instrumental virtuosity ceased to be musically interesting and just became self-indulgent.

Conor Kostick, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

But ultimately, in an oft repeated pattern, instrumental virtuosity ceased to be musically interesting and just became self-indulgent.

Are you describing your personal development or that of the band? Because, if anything, the band got less and less showy as the years went on. "Counterparts" (the last one I heard) was even "grunge" influenced, allegedly. Rush was my favorite band all throughout high school.

Kris, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Hey, it's supposed to be a HAIKU, people !

Guitar mag gruel
Less smart than it wants to be
Pretty harmless now

Hey, gimme a break, I've never written a haiku before.

Patrick, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Stoner's favourite

'Tom Sawyer' plays through art class

Turn that shit off now!

suzy, Saturday, 23 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Geddy Lee = King of the Mullet People

Kim, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I'm in Canada I like said prog band less Than I did before

Dave M., Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Truly dreadful, they Give "chops", prog-rock a bad name. Two good songs* -- rest's dud.

*( I reluctantly but freely admit that both Tom Sawyer and YYZ are both decent songs.)

Phil, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Oh dear, where did my line breaks go...

Phil, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Childhood memories
Older brother worships them
Despite this, they ROCK

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Repeated listens
Render it annoying, eh
Still, sentimental

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
I'm so bored tonight that I'm reading vintage "classic or dud"'s, and I have to say that the stipulation of submitting answers in haiku format is pure, unhomogenized genius. More please!

Alex in NYC, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Objectivist Rock a la Ayn Rand = DUD!

Jack Cole, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Unhomogenised
Gen-i-us?" You would say that,
Since you started it!

Jeff W, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

BA da BA BA BA

da BA BA BA BA da-da

BA da BA BA BA...

Joe, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Neil Peart squeals, righteous in his Objectivist zeal but all their songs suck

Shaky Mo Collier, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Drummers Who Write songs
Didn't make Hüsker Dü suck
it was Geddy's voice.

Mr Noodles, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
They may be cheesy
But add rocking conviction
Who else but Rush eh?

piers (piers), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Rush sucks my big dick
Geddy lee is a scourge on Earth
prog rock motherfucks

The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

more rush haikus please

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Andrew L missed the whole point of "Spirit of Radio"! TAO: Your second line would actually fit haiku conventions if you made it "Geddy is a scourge on Earth".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Fly by night limelight
Too many notes played at once
Blame's on Toronto

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

thank you sweet sundar, you are correct. that is what i meant to do. *tries to awkwardly plant a kiss on sundar's cheek and is promptly slapped on the face* ouch.

The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ayn Rand prog rockin'
Canadian eunuch squeals
You people so dumb!

Confucius, Friday, 8 October 2004 06:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

moving pictures has
the very worst cover art
which is such a shame

subdivisions rocks
which counters all that i've been
told about this band

the lyrics are too
obvious but what can you
expect from hosers?

derrick (derrick), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

'Limelight' licks are great
'Signals' is a true classic
The rest smells like wee

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Once I crossed the street
Geddy Lee almost hit me
In his Land Rover

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC as long as this man was Prime Minister:

http://www.clevernet.on.ca/pierre_trudeau/images/pic_trudeau_beer.jpg

DUD thereafter

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

[...wish I coulda found a picture of him riding on a train & flipping off protesters thru the window!]

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Rush is good
for opening up my pooper
so other men can do me

Good Dog, Friday, 8 October 2004 10:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

. . . Or maybe not

Space-jazz-rock-tronic
If rednecks didn't like them
They'd be Kraftwerk-hip

Geddyvox

Less boy or girl than
Alien; Precise
Enunciation

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

fact checkin cuz to thread

sleep (sleep), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Songs(works) and arrangements: Classic
Lyrics and vocals: Dud

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I love Rush probably more than any other band....I don't think there BETTER than alot of bands, but they were a big part of my childhood....

Great band, I think.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Young Black Teenagers
Seeking the phattest of shit
Sample Tom Sawyer

dlp9001, Saturday, 9 October 2004 00:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

has anyone seen the episode of "trailer park boys" where they kidnap alex liefson?
i gained new respect for the man after watching that.

m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I have no haiku to offer which I why I didn't say anything before. But great, of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i was at a party with some guys who were really entranced with some kind of video of stevie ray vaughn stranglin' the blues back in the '80s. doo-rags. these guys were such geeks, glued to the tube while there were girls to hit on and barbecue to scarf. then they got into "moving pictures," talking about the "production values" and saying things like "you can't deny the musicianship," while trying to be "ironic" about the whole stinkin' thing. typical night with people in nashville trying to be hip about not being hip or whatever that convolution is. then, everyone got drunk the host attempted to explain the shaggs to these geeks and everyone *listened hard and they got it*!! ahh. so, rush sucks and that's it, that's just like being "ironic" about kiss or worryin' about montgomery gentry, i think (as in the video where that goober takes off his cowboy hat to reveal an expensive-looking doo-rag/headwrap of some kind), and only the man upstairs can say whether rush is great or not...yes, rush did a record of covers i understand includes a version of eddie cochran's summertime blues done like blue cheer! so, they have roots like the rest of us, cuz.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ooh, that sounds right. I wasn't sure if they traded off with mr. big behind presto.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 22:57 (one year ago) Permalink

I had to sit through Vinnie Moore on that tour, horific.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 23:13 (one year ago) Permalink

I can't spell...

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 23:14 (one year ago) Permalink

the first big rock concert i ever went to. i made my dad take me. now i can listen to a bad bootleg of it on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwmEQTCf8bU

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 00:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Jealous

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:13 (one year ago) Permalink

I saw Primus open for Rush on the Roll the Bones tour. I think Primus toured with them again in 1994.

― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, May 8, 2018 3:49 PM (three hours ago)

check the intro y'all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato_YTBQpu4

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:37 (one year ago) Permalink

When I saw Primus at Lollapalooza, they played a bit of A Passage To Bangkok.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:40 (one year ago) Permalink

Huh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piLUfNc-96w

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 03:57 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IOKT_sC9ac

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:53 (one year ago) Permalink

that rules, schroeder's keybs
brown's shredding, pigpen's peart, snoop
doggy dog's bass damn

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:11 (one year ago) Permalink

last time I heard Madonna's "Ray of Light" the only thing I could think of was how much it sounded like Rush

frogbs, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:20 (one year ago) Permalink

xxp So many perfect touches to that, not least the running time :)

Jeff W, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:23 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...
two months pass...

hemispheres rules so much

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rush-geddy-lee-interview-prog-rock-hemispheres-738828/

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 00:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

Cool interview. Hemispheres is where it really all coalesced for them.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 01:46 (seven months ago) Permalink

for historical purposes, this is a good post about power windows

Imagine a POLL Where It All Began: Rush- Power Windows Poll

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 02:39 (seven months ago) Permalink

Great interview!

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 12:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

After decades of sentimental favoritism, I'm willing to admit that "Hold Your Fire" is relatively weak. However! The entire first side (give or take "Second Nature") is some great songwriting and arranging. "Hold Your Fire" is lovely. "Force Ten" is rousing, "Open Secrets" is some great lyrics writing and features a neat coda, and "Prime Mover" is of course awesome. Side two ... "Mission" is kind of a weaker "Marathon," though of course "Turn the Page" is cool. The rest of the songs are pretty eh. The band would get better at conventional songwriting with "Presto."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 November 2018 12:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

it’s a pretty uneven record imo. first side is indeed so awesome

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 November 2018 12:59 (seven months ago) Permalink

Heh, I meant to say "Time Stand Still" is lovely. Why is this not a classic rock/AOR staple?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 November 2018 14:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

I'm not ashamed to admit that time stand still is the song that triggered my rush fandom at the belated age of 35.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

It's really a good song, and much of it comes down to Peart's lyrics. If they were bad the song would only be OK.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:27 (seven months ago) Permalink

just as well it wasn't made five years later, or aimee mann's part would have been given to a computerized 'rapper' voice

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

Hold Your Fire is the first LP in their discography that I don't like - I pretty much like to love everything before that, even the first three albums.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 8 November 2018 19:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

I like "Mission" they did it once when I saw them live

there's a doc about the last tour called "Time Stand Still" on Showtime, was nice, didn't know how much pain Peart was in

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 November 2018 19:47 (seven months ago) Permalink

I still haven't watched that doc. Worried it will depress me too much.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 8 November 2018 19:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

Nah, it's good. Peart has gone through worse than physical pain.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 November 2018 19:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

watch it, it's not depressing

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 8 November 2018 20:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Heard "Tom Sawyer" on the radio yesterday. It was Two-for-Tuesday, so I readied myself for "Freewill" or "Spirit of Radio" or "Subdivisions," but then they played "Time Stand Still!" I'm not sure I've ever heard that on the radio before, it was awesome.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:21 (five months ago) Permalink

Pretty much was all over classic rock radio in 1987/88 (along with "Force Ten") -- but that's time and place for you.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:54 (five months ago) Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxEJkvWUwAI6pEo.jpg:small

mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 22:19 (five months ago) Permalink

hell yeah

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 22:36 (five months ago) Permalink

spoiler alert

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 22:54 (five months ago) Permalink

Lol josh

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 23:22 (five months ago) Permalink

yeah I feel like Time Stand Still is probably the one song outside of Tom Sawyer that I ever heard on classic rock radio with any regularity (maybe Big Money at the time it came out too). Great song.

akm, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 23:25 (five months ago) Permalink

My earliest memory of rush was limelight on the radio in the garage while my dad was doing something mechanical and that definitely had to be KQRS so limelight must have been on classic rock radio at least once

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 23:29 (five months ago) Permalink

The ones I hear the most on classic rock radio are "Tom Sawyer," "Freewill," "Spirit," "Limelight," "Subdivisions" and "Red Barchetta." Really nothing from "Grace Under Pressure" on, bar at the time the occasional new song from new album promotion.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 January 2019 04:17 (five months ago) Permalink

Rush must have been huge in Houston, because in addition to the tracks Josh named we also got "Working Man", "Fly By Night", "Closer To The Heart" and "New World Man" on the reg. All of them at least once a day, putting them up there with Zep, the Stones, and the Eagles in terms of exposure.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 January 2019 05:01 (five months ago) Permalink

xxp lol i think the question was about time stand still, limelight without a doubt is being played on the classic rock radio station in heaven

j., Thursday, 17 January 2019 05:02 (five months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I hear all those songs, to some degree. But "Time Stand Still" I file under "the occasional new song from new album promotion." I was just too young to remember it in the radio in Philly, but I sure heard "Show Don't Tell," "Dreamline," Animate," at least (or only) during the album cycle. But "Time Stand Still" is such a great song, I'm surprised I'd never heard it on the radio before the other day.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 January 2019 12:45 (five months ago) Permalink

Oh, maybe not surprising but "Show Don't Tell", "Dreamline", "Ghost of a Chance", "Big Money" all get rotation in Canada, and "In the Mood" too in addition to the early ones that C. Grisso lists. I remember hearing "Manhattan Project" during a long drive last summer.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 January 2019 12:56 (five months ago) Permalink

I think I heard most of those in Buffalo and Syracuse.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 January 2019 13:00 (five months ago) Permalink

Pretty sure Canada is legally obligated to play that stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 January 2019 13:46 (five months ago) Permalink

That, Tragically Hip and Corey Hart.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 January 2019 13:47 (five months ago) Permalink

Definitely the Hip

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 January 2019 14:10 (five months ago) Permalink

and Gowan

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 17 January 2019 16:20 (five months ago) Permalink

aimee mann should cover time stand still live.

akm, Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:27 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

It's really dumb and obvious, but I always wondered why they quoted the "1812 Overture" in the "2112" "Overture" and for the first time this morning I suddenly realized, well, duh.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2019 15:58 (four months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

I don't care about the video, but Alex Lifeson grew a grey retirement beard!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7ItG4jIfC0

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 June 2019 22:20 (three days ago) Permalink

God Lifeson is the nicest guy, cool to hear him talk about Rory

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:43 (two days ago) Permalink


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