Rush: Classic or Dud?

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No one has asked this one yet (and I have a sneaking suspicion I know why, but I'll ask it anyway)...

What do you think of them crazy prog-rockin' Canadians, then? Super? Sucky? Somewhere in the middle? Please write your response in the form of a haiku.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

"Why I Like Rush: A Haiku" by Alex in NYC

Rush Rock Like No One Ex-Cept May-Be Pla-Ce-Bo Neil Peart, Wow, He's Good.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Rush -- i get high on

you and my spacey invade

ers get by on you

Mark, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Hi points - the drum beat of "Tom Sawyer" (as everyone knows by now), & one of the best fake-Led-Zeppelins ever in "Working Man" (great gtr solo!). Other than that, they can go & read the complete works of Ayn Rand. (I'd rather attempt to eat the entire works of Ayn Rand).

duane, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Hilarious fact abt Ayn Rand: when she went round in the 60s giving lectures on how unfettered capitalism was the BEST BEST BEST, she wd wear a black cape covered in gold $ signs!!

mark s, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

As a band: dud. As a rite of passage: classic.

scott p, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I'd like Rush a lot more if they wore black capes covered with gold $ signs...

duane, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I think Rush sucks. Any band where the drummer writes the lyrics is bound to suck. Do you know what RUSH stands for? "Running Under Satan's House." I did learn something in school... "Anti-Christ Devil Child," "We Are Satan's People,""Knights in Satan's Service," etc.

andy, Thursday, 21 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

---------> "Je suis Le By-Tor."

"Non. Vous etes Le Chien d'Neige." <------------

"Les pommes frites! Mon dieu!!!"

Jean-Luc Godard, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The good woman claims to like Rush, although I've never seen any evidence of this.

Dirty Vicar, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The only Rush track I've heard is 'The Spirit of Radio' from 'The Permanent Waves alb (1980). It was the nearest thing Rush had to a hit single in the UK (top thirty?) Now I don't know what Canadian radio was like back when this single was released, but English pop radio at the time, which for me basically meant Radio One, was horrendous. The 'Breakfast Show' was the station's prime time biggie, only entrusted to Radio One's biggest 'personalities'/tossers - Noel Edmonds, Dave Lee Travis, Steve Wright, all endlessly yakking over the few pop hits they played in-between their 'banter'. So the lyrics to 'Spirit of Radio', clearly written to suck up to radio station DJs, were not only v. horrible, but also a million miles from the truth. Here's the opening verse:

"Begin the day with a friendly voice/A companion, unobtrusive/ Plays the song that's so elusive/And the magic music makes your morning mood"

Dud for that alone.

Andrew L, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

they were good before
Lee's voice dropped, and Lifeson
stopped using distortion

tarden, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Rush are r0x0r, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Check out the k-kewl sartorial elegance displayed on the back cover of "2112" if you don't believe me. Stylee! Neil Peart's RAD, d00d (etc etc)

x0x0

/<-r/-\/>, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I am proud to say that I once voted Rush the greatest band of the 80's. They had a lot of good moments, 'Xanadu' appeared in Tommy Vance's poll for the top ten rock tracks of all time throughout most of the 1980s. I think they peaked with 'The Weapon' on Signals (1982). They differed from their contemporaries in being more interested in playing around with the time-signature of their tracks. But ultimately, in an oft repeated pattern, instrumental virtuosity ceased to be musically interesting and just became self-indulgent.

Conor Kostick, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

But ultimately, in an oft repeated pattern, instrumental virtuosity ceased to be musically interesting and just became self-indulgent.

Are you describing your personal development or that of the band? Because, if anything, the band got less and less showy as the years went on. "Counterparts" (the last one I heard) was even "grunge" influenced, allegedly. Rush was my favorite band all throughout high school.

Kris, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Hey, it's supposed to be a HAIKU, people !

Guitar mag gruel
Less smart than it wants to be
Pretty harmless now

Hey, gimme a break, I've never written a haiku before.

Patrick, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Stoner's favourite

'Tom Sawyer' plays through art class

Turn that shit off now!

suzy, Saturday, 23 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Geddy Lee = King of the Mullet People

Kim, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I'm in Canada I like said prog band less Than I did before

Dave M., Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Truly dreadful, they Give "chops", prog-rock a bad name. Two good songs* -- rest's dud.

*( I reluctantly but freely admit that both Tom Sawyer and YYZ are both decent songs.)

Phil, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Oh dear, where did my line breaks go...

Phil, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Childhood memories
Older brother worships them
Despite this, they ROCK

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Repeated listens
Render it annoying, eh
Still, sentimental

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
I'm so bored tonight that I'm reading vintage "classic or dud"'s, and I have to say that the stipulation of submitting answers in haiku format is pure, unhomogenized genius. More please!

Alex in NYC, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Objectivist Rock a la Ayn Rand = DUD!

Jack Cole, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Unhomogenised
Gen-i-us?" You would say that,
Since you started it!

Jeff W, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

BA da BA BA BA

da BA BA BA BA da-da

BA da BA BA BA...

Joe, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Neil Peart squeals, righteous in his Objectivist zeal but all their songs suck

Shaky Mo Collier, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Drummers Who Write songs
Didn't make Hüsker Dü suck
it was Geddy's voice.

Mr Noodles, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
They may be cheesy
But add rocking conviction
Who else but Rush eh?

piers (piers), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Rush sucks my big dick
Geddy lee is a scourge on Earth
prog rock motherfucks

The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

more rush haikus please

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Andrew L missed the whole point of "Spirit of Radio"! TAO: Your second line would actually fit haiku conventions if you made it "Geddy is a scourge on Earth".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Fly by night limelight
Too many notes played at once
Blame's on Toronto

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

thank you sweet sundar, you are correct. that is what i meant to do. *tries to awkwardly plant a kiss on sundar's cheek and is promptly slapped on the face* ouch.

The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ayn Rand prog rockin'
Canadian eunuch squeals
You people so dumb!

Confucius, Friday, 8 October 2004 06:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

moving pictures has
the very worst cover art
which is such a shame

subdivisions rocks
which counters all that i've been
told about this band

the lyrics are too
obvious but what can you
expect from hosers?

derrick (derrick), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

'Limelight' licks are great
'Signals' is a true classic
The rest smells like wee

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Once I crossed the street
Geddy Lee almost hit me
In his Land Rover

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC as long as this man was Prime Minister:

http://www.clevernet.on.ca/pierre_trudeau/images/pic_trudeau_beer.jpg

DUD thereafter

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

[...wish I coulda found a picture of him riding on a train & flipping off protesters thru the window!]

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Rush is good
for opening up my pooper
so other men can do me

Good Dog, Friday, 8 October 2004 10:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

. . . Or maybe not

Space-jazz-rock-tronic
If rednecks didn't like them
They'd be Kraftwerk-hip

Geddyvox

Less boy or girl than
Alien; Precise
Enunciation

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

fact checkin cuz to thread

sleep (sleep), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Songs(works) and arrangements: Classic
Lyrics and vocals: Dud

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I love Rush probably more than any other band....I don't think there BETTER than alot of bands, but they were a big part of my childhood....

Great band, I think.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Young Black Teenagers
Seeking the phattest of shit
Sample Tom Sawyer

dlp9001, Saturday, 9 October 2004 00:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

has anyone seen the episode of "trailer park boys" where they kidnap alex liefson?
i gained new respect for the man after watching that.

m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I have no haiku to offer which I why I didn't say anything before. But great, of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i was at a party with some guys who were really entranced with some kind of video of stevie ray vaughn stranglin' the blues back in the '80s. doo-rags. these guys were such geeks, glued to the tube while there were girls to hit on and barbecue to scarf. then they got into "moving pictures," talking about the "production values" and saying things like "you can't deny the musicianship," while trying to be "ironic" about the whole stinkin' thing. typical night with people in nashville trying to be hip about not being hip or whatever that convolution is. then, everyone got drunk the host attempted to explain the shaggs to these geeks and everyone *listened hard and they got it*!! ahh. so, rush sucks and that's it, that's just like being "ironic" about kiss or worryin' about montgomery gentry, i think (as in the video where that goober takes off his cowboy hat to reveal an expensive-looking doo-rag/headwrap of some kind), and only the man upstairs can say whether rush is great or not...yes, rush did a record of covers i understand includes a version of eddie cochran's summertime blues done like blue cheer! so, they have roots like the rest of us, cuz.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I mean, yes, they moved away from doing stuff like 'Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres' in the sense that the compositions became shorter, but even though they did soak up new influences, they did not entirely abandon their prog and/or hard rock influences. 'YYZ' is progressive rock, as is 'Subdivisions' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Like, Yes and Genesis moved out of their prog phases too.

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, April 27, 2018 3:22 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the key is Rush was not prog before they were prog
therefore their default state is not prog
it's just science really

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:26 (two months ago) Permalink

pedantic point: genesis were not prog before they were prog

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:27 (two months ago) Permalink

i've never heard the first yes album but i assume it isn't 100 percent prog either

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:28 (two months ago) Permalink

(Wasn't going to go there but, yeah, so was Yes, arguably. xp!)

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:28 (two months ago) Permalink

So, by that logic, since Status Quo were a psychedelic pop band before they were a boogie rock band, their default state is psychedelic pop.

SCIENCE!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:29 (two months ago) Permalink

there you go turrican you're getting it :)

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:30 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm p sure ums was joking but also worth noting that "progressive rock" is by definition a fusion of aesthetics, i.e. not a genre that is about being 100% anything in the first place.xp

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:31 (two months ago) Permalink

I was going to make the same point about Genesis. Yes is a trickier one - their first album isn't exactly Close to the Edge but it's unmistakably a Yes record.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:32 (two months ago) Permalink

wait what genesis isn't proggy? from genesis to revelation is very 60s but i'd put it in the protoprog moodly blues camp

(unless there's earlier still i haven't heard)

i mean compare this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lUJ9f0B3jo

to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5njyO9h9Ys

there's an innate fancypantsedness to genesis even then

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Stewart Copeland and Andy Summers both spent time in prog bands before the Police, and Sting was even in (at least in his mind) a fusion band. By the end they were singing about Jung and dinosaurs and spots on the sun. In their early days people used to call Sting Jon Anderson, because he has a high voice. You know who else has a high voice? That's right, Geddy Lee. And Peter Gabriel, come to think of it. Ergo, the Police are as prog as they come.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Science.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:36 (two months ago) Permalink

from genesis to revelation is very 60s but i'd put it in the protoprog moodly blues camp

fair!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:37 (two months ago) Permalink

I think of The Moody Blues as "post-psychedelic" rather than "proto-prog" ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Procal Harum is somewhere in that transition, too.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:45 (two months ago) Permalink

Procol Harum, too.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:45 (two months ago) Permalink

Well, the Moody Blues with Justin Hayward anyway, not so much Denny Laine. I can hear 'em as an influence on the wetter end of prog - the Canterbury stuff. Procol Harum definitely part of that transitional period!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:49 (two months ago) Permalink

APOLLO WAS ASTONISHED!
DIONYSUS THOUGHT ME MAD!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 4 May 2018 20:44 (two months ago) Permalink

a quantum leap forward!
in time and in space!
the universe learn to expand!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 4 May 2018 22:52 (two months ago) Permalink

of salesmen.

OF SALESMEN!

oooooooooooOOOOOOF SALESMEN!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 4 May 2018 22:55 (two months ago) Permalink

new wonders in the world they
wonders in the WORLD THEY
wonders in the world
they
WROUGHTTTTTTTTTTTT

henry s, Saturday, 5 May 2018 12:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Think about it!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:36 (two months ago) Permalink

SPIN-NING! WHIRL-ING!
STILL DE! SCENDING!
LIKE A! SPI-RAL!
SEA UN!!!1!ENDIIING!!1!!!1

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:56 (two months ago) Permalink

I heard "Manhattan Project" on the radio when I was doing a long drive a little while ago and was struck by how clear and precise Geddy's enunciation of that text came across, relative to most of what I was hearing.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:58 (two months ago) Permalink

If there's anything I want to break out into singing, it's the "Didacts And Narpets" section of "Fountain Of Lamneth"

"Stay!
Go!
Work!
No!
Think!
Live!
Earn!
Give!
Wait!
Fight!
Laugh!
Right!
LISTEN!!!"

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Wish that part was longer. I'm sure there's a band that based their career on it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Years ago, Mr Big was on tour w Rush on their Presto tour, Geddy was late for soundcheck -- stick in traffic from LA to San Diego. They asked me to get up and jam w Neil & Alex for sound check, and recorded it. I played through Geddy's rig on his... https://t.co/3clsOIxrxo

— Billy Sheehan (@BillyonBass) May 7, 2018

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:05 (two months ago) Permalink

la villa strangiato book ii: addicted to that rush

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Alfred's latest "Worst Songs" post is also a celebration of one of Rush's best

https://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2018/05/08/worst-songs-ever-arcade-fires-we-used-to-wait/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:35 (two months ago) Permalink

"I think of The Moody Blues as "post-psychedelic" rather than "proto-prog" ..."

watching justin sing nights in white satin on that hall of fame thing and all i could think of was the first king crimson album. the flute! the mellotron! greg lake's justin homage!

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:40 (two months ago) Permalink

procol harum in 1967 and moody blues in 1967 = most prog to come!

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:42 (two months ago) Permalink

'Grand Designs' came up on shuffle earlier and... fucking hell, I love this band.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:09 (two months ago) Permalink

By the way, that Billy Sheehan clip I posted, that's one of the very few times I've heard Rush playing anything but Rush songs with anybody but the core three members, let alone jamming.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:17 (two months ago) Permalink

i saw that tour. sheehan did a bass solo with a power drill

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:30 (two months ago) Permalink

I think he and Gilbert both did!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:49 (two months ago) Permalink

That may have been the last time Rush even bothered with an opening act.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:49 (two months ago) Permalink

I saw Primus open for Rush on the Roll the Bones tour. I think Primus toured with them again in 1994.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 22:49 (two months ago) Permalink

ooh, that sounds right. I wasn't sure if they traded off with mr. big behind presto.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 22:57 (two months ago) Permalink

I had to sit through Vinnie Moore on that tour, horific.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 23:13 (two months ago) Permalink

I can't spell...

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 23:14 (two months ago) Permalink

the first big rock concert i ever went to. i made my dad take me. now i can listen to a bad bootleg of it on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwmEQTCf8bU

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 00:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Jealous

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:13 (two months ago) Permalink

I saw Primus open for Rush on the Roll the Bones tour. I think Primus toured with them again in 1994.

― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, May 8, 2018 3:49 PM (three hours ago)

check the intro y'all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato_YTBQpu4

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:37 (two months ago) Permalink

When I saw Primus at Lollapalooza, they played a bit of A Passage To Bangkok.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Huh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piLUfNc-96w

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 03:57 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IOKT_sC9ac

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2018 19:53 (one month ago) Permalink

that rules, schroeder's keybs
brown's shredding, pigpen's peart, snoop
doggy dog's bass damn

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:11 (one month ago) Permalink

last time I heard Madonna's "Ray of Light" the only thing I could think of was how much it sounded like Rush

frogbs, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:20 (one month ago) Permalink

xxp So many perfect touches to that, not least the running time :)

Jeff W, Thursday, 24 May 2018 20:23 (one month ago) Permalink


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