― Scott Seward, Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
1969 Mott the Hoople Atlantic1970 Mad Shadows Atlantic1971 Wildlife Atlantic1971 Brain Capers Atlantic1972 All the Young Dudes [Columbia] Columbia1973 Mott Columbia1974 The Hoople Columbia1974 Mott the Hoople Live Columbia1975 Drive On Columbia1976 Shouting and Pointing Columbia2000 Rock 'n' Roll Circus: Live Wolverhampton... Angel Air2002 Two Miles from Live Heaven
COMPILATIONS, BOX SETS
1972 Rock & Roll Queen Atlantic 1975 Greatest Hits Columbia 1979 Shades of Ian Hunter: The Ballad of Ian... Columbia 198 2 Miles from Heaven Island 1990 Walkin' With a Mountain: The Best of Island... Island 1992 Collection Castle 1992 London to Memphis Sony 1993 The Ballad of Mott: A Retrospective Columbia/Legac 1994 Backsliding Fearlessly: The Early Years Rhino 1996 Original Mixed Up Kids: Live at the BBC Windsong 1997 Super Hits Sony 1997 All the Young Dudes [Pegasus] Pegasus 1998 All the Young Dudes [Box] Columbia x1998 All the Way From Stockholm to Philadelphia:... [live] Angel Air 1999 Live: Over Here and Over There -- 75/76 Angel Air 2000 Friends and Relatives Spitfire 2000 Greatest Hits Live Purple Pyramid 2000 Live Dudes Music Club 2000 A Tale of Two Cities Recall 2000 The Gooseberry Sessions & Rarities Angel Air 2001 World Cruise Cleopatra 2001 The Best of Island Years: 1969-1972 Karussell 2002 Hoopling: Best of Live Import 2002 The Best of Mott the Hoople
― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
oh right also
Young Ginger and the Stick Insect
― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Scott Seward, Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Scott Seward, Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
FYI: I have Mott and the live album. And two Ian Hunter solo ones.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 22 February 2003 21:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 February 2003 23:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 22 February 2003 23:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Paul (scifisoul), Sunday, 23 February 2003 03:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― duane, Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― nickn (nickn), Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Scott Seward, Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 23 February 2003 13:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
And you know what? No one got onto the Free thread here, but Scott's right, they're damn good records, especially FIRE & WATER.
― matt riedl (veal), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Best solo albums are the first one and the third one. The first one has "Once Bitten Twice Shy" on it, which was covered by, um, Great White. The heater don't work and it's oh so cold. They didn't know that rock and roll burned, then they found the candle and they lived and they learned. Except one of them didn't. It's really fucking sad.
― chuck, Friday, 28 February 2003 21:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― earlnash, Monday, 3 May 2004 13:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
I spent some time with the mid-period Mott, and always really enjoyed it, perhaps in the same way I used to enjoy The Faces. But nowadays, I would put Mott high above The Faces.
Anyhow, someone should tell me more about Mad Shadows. I read Julian Cope's review on Head Heritage, and it made my ears weep with desire to hear it. Now.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink
I just had a couple beers and listened to Brain Capers and it blows me away. Hunter is a grand emoter. He means that shit!
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink
All The Young Dudes: The Anthology is an import box set w/great unreleased tracks: live covers of CSNY's "Ohio" Mountain's "Long Red" and a dinky Merseybeat pre-Bad Company "Movin' On." Choice.
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― def zep (calstars), Friday, 27 January 2006 02:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 27 January 2006 05:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 27 January 2006 08:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― naturemorte, Friday, 27 January 2006 09:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Dittoismus (Dada), Friday, 27 January 2006 10:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink
nah it's Mick Ralphs. "movin on from town to town" interesting but actually not as rockin-good as Bad Co.
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 27 January 2006 11:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink
faves for today: "The Hunter" (Tons of Sobs) "I'll Be Creeping" (Free) "Mr. Big" (Fire & Water) "The Stealer" (Highway).
after guitarist Paul Kossoff split, things kinda went downhill.
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 27 January 2006 11:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink
The first four Mott albums are all fantastic and worth owning, though -- besides Sonny Bono, Mott also tackle Doug Sahm ("At the Crossroads") and the Kinks (a molten instrumental of "You Really Got Me"). Nice M.C. Escher art on the LP cover, before that kind of thing was really hip.
― James, Friday, 27 January 2006 14:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink
I've never read the Ian Hunter bio, but I have fond memories of my buddies mocking the way it was padded with lackluster tales of Life On The Road- "If you've never been on an airplane, cats - that's the place for you! You sit there and all the while a bird keeps bringing round food and drink..."
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Friday, 27 January 2006 14:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink
In terms of downhill slides, the Mott post Ian Hunter records and British Lions are both much better than Crawler. The Gooseberry Sessions, listed above, is also post Ian Hunter. What it is are recordings of Overend Watts leading the band, playing guitar and bass in the studio spec'ing for a new contract. Some them are good, particularly when he indulges his Everly Brothers fandom.
The anniversary edition of Mott Live was excellent. It was an import but really worth getting. Ariel Bender was tremendous on it and the band at its most powerful. Very kickass.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink
S/T Free album rules SO hard! and Skot is so right, as usual. You do need all of their albums. "Lying in The Sunshine" and "Mouthful of Grass" are so goddam floaty I want to swim with the dolphins. Best music ever! Paul Rodgers is such a hero -- such a voice. I am working up my response to dave q's bad co op10
― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 24 January 2008 06:02 (ten years ago) Permalink
I guess what you need is first and foremost their 72-74 ones.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 January 2008 09:28 (ten years ago) Permalink
For me, it's all about:
Mott The Hoople
As for All The Young Dudes, I think that one is merely okay, despite the classic title track.
― Rev. Hoodoo, Thursday, 24 January 2008 09:40 (ten years ago) Permalink
I hated the Bowie-braying in "All The Young Dudes" so much for so long that I never bothered to give the rest of their catalog any attention. Which was my loss, obv, since I've come to really like 'em, particularly that initial pre-CBS (and pre-Bowie) quartet. Bob Dylan abandons The Hawks in Nashville, goes to England and records Blonde On Blonde with Deep Purple backing him up instead - I never woulda suspected I harbored a need to hear that. But I guess I apparently did. "The Moon Upstairs", what a great song.
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:07 (ten years ago) Permalink
I've never bothered with anything beyond "Dudes", "Mott", "The Hoople".
― Tom D., Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:25 (ten years ago) Permalink
Mott's a great band. The Dion cover on Brain Capers is priceless, nearly brings me to tears.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:56 (ten years ago) Permalink
The Journey is another great song on Brain Capers.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 24 January 2008 17:16 (ten years ago) Permalink
It's all good on Brain Capers, goddamn is that a great album.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 24 January 2008 17:18 (ten years ago) Permalink
lol so accurate
― rockapads, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:09 (ten years ago) Permalink
Hey don't get me wrong, I own a stack of '70s Bowie that I like a lot. But he tended to damage OTHER people's albums with his backing vocals. (Not to mention what he did to Raw Power!)
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:47 (ten years ago) Permalink
this is all I own, but I want more! haven't had any luck running across Brain Capers & earlier, but I guess I could be looking harder.
Mott is the business, total classic. I'm thinking ...Dudes might be the weak one in this run.
― will, Saturday, 13 September 2008 01:01 (nine years ago) Permalink
Anybody but me have the newish 2CD Ian Hunter/Mott The Hoople best-of on Shout! Factory? It's a disc of Mott and a disc of Hunter and it's pretty damn rockin'.
― unperson, Saturday, 13 September 2008 17:28 (nine years ago) Permalink
Everybody who likes Mott should check out the Live 1970 from Fairfield Halls disc from last year. Great stuff. Two concerts (despite the title, the second concert is in Sweden) from when Mott was still an opening act. Judging from this disc, following them was probably pretty difficult.
― Bill Magill, Saturday, 13 September 2008 20:54 (nine years ago) Permalink
Look for some reunion shows in London in the Fall of '09, and possibly a new album. All original members (Hunter, Ralphs, Allen, Overend, Buffin). The Ian Hunter discussion forum is all abuzz.
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:29 (nine years ago) Permalink
I was just listening to "Marionette".
― snoball, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:30 (nine years ago) Permalink
Mad Shadows - has a British rock n roll band ever sounded so dark, sloppy, out of control? When My Mind's Gone is simply heartbreaking, Thunderbuck Ram is ferocious, and what about the beautiful chaos that is Threads of Irons?
Such a great great band.
― Marco Damiani, Friday, 14 January 2011 10:29 (seven years ago) Permalink
That's a good way of putting it! I just spun through the album again; the highlights are the ones you mention plus "Walkin' With A Mountain" of course. The album sounds like it's recorded in an empty arena, huge & cavernous & kinda hazy at the edges, as though the punch of the sound leaks into the surrounding empty space. When that works, it's really really great; but the other cuts on the album sound too murky.
― Euler, Friday, 14 January 2011 15:59 (seven years ago) Permalink
Quite probably it is not the best Mott album, but there's something truly urgent and devastating about it and in this case muddy production and shambolic playing are okay with me. (And "Walking with a Mountain" is another highlight indeed).
I'm in a big Mott/Ian Hunter phase these days, lots of good songs and scorching performances.
― Marco Damiani, Friday, 14 January 2011 16:08 (seven years ago) Permalink
Yeah, "Thunderbuck Ram" left me raw this morning: it's a tender & vulnerable scorcher. Something about the album strikes me as gospel-y, maybe it's the pianos? It makes for weird juxtapositions: one the one hand they're roaring, but on the other hand the singing & lyrics are sad. And somehow the songs end up joyous; this is consistent through the end of the band. I don't really get how they pull it off.
Also: I get the Dylan comparisons wrt Hunter's vocal tone & "wordy" lyrics, but Dylan's rarely a tender lyricist. Whereas Hunter doesn't have that confidence or that desire to scorn. He cares!
― Euler, Friday, 14 January 2011 16:15 (seven years ago) Permalink
Ha, I just pulled back out a bunch of Mott LPs yesterday, to be added to the too-be-played pile. Played Mott (my favorite, probably) for the first time in a while; had somehow forgotten how much I love "Whizz Kid" and "Drivin' Sister." Also always catches me by surprise when Mick Ralphs takes the lead vocal, in "I'm A Cadillac." (How many Mott songs does somebody other than Ian sing any? Well, not counting the later albums after he left, where they're just called Mott, I mean -- I actually like Drive On, from 1975!) Bizarrely, don't think I've ever actually heard Mad Shadows or Wildlife all the way through, though. Have always been a huge Brain Capers fan, and like the debut a lot, but for some reason I've always taken people's word that the 2nd and 3rd weren't worth checking out. Guess I'll keep an eye out for them now, though I'm never been big on "murk," so I dunno.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 14 January 2011 16:23 (seven years ago) Permalink
First time I've seen this thread. That clip of "Moon Upstairs' is WAY better than I would have any reason to think a 70 year old Ian Hunter could be sounding in 2010!
― Glorified Lolcat (Dan Peterson), Friday, 14 January 2011 16:26 (seven years ago) Permalink
xpost maybe I'm completely wrong here, but Hunter always seemed to me very un-British in his open vulnerability.
Mad Shadows is definitely murky and even a failure in terms of "well constructed records", but at least it is a glorious failure.
― Marco Damiani, Friday, 14 January 2011 16:29 (seven years ago) Permalink
Yeah, and it's from a very murky time, many of the best, worst and most mediocre from that year are a bit murky. Soon after, you get the normalization of post-Woodstock/Altamont mass bohemia-aimed product, then Exile On Main Street and There's A Riot Going On provided the affront of delib and deft, in-your-face murk. But back to Mott: "Crossroads" was a revelation to me: I didn't know who it was (or what it was; didn't yet know much about Sir Doug), except that it wasn't Dylan, yet provided so much of the Dylan-ness--the feel, the vibe, not just the literal sonic similarities--so absent on Nashville Skyline (which was still pretty good not to mention Self-Portrait (not so good). They weren't just doing a nice re-run either, the performance and the song had distinctive qualities. Otherwise, I'd agree that Brain Capers is prob the one to start with. But yeah, Live (from their Broadway sojurn, right?) and Rock 'n' Roll Queen (superbly slimmed-down singles and focus tracks) are also must-hears. Plus, the recent comp Dirty Water: The Birth of Punk Attitude, topping my P&J, makes great use of "The Moon Upstairs", with ambitious-to-voraci=ious vengefulness/idealism rec. to metal spirits as well. Hunter's mad laughter goes well w roller coaster into next track by Zoltan X, who say: "Humans are funnnn--ahhhh hah hah hah!"
― dow, Friday, 14 January 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink
I bought that comp - extra kudos to Kris Needs for the inclusion of the Silhouettes's song!
― Marco Damiani, Saturday, 15 January 2011 09:15 (seven years ago) Permalink
"don't think I've ever actually heard Mad Shadows or Wildlife all the way through"
you crazy! get on that! it's all good if you ask me.
really been digging the first two ian solo records (and the production on those! hoo boy).
AND i've been digging the two british lions albums too. which are quirky cool. was really happy to get a copy of the unreleased-at-the-time second album that cherry red was kind enough to put out a few years after the fact. cool stuff!
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:36 (seven years ago) Permalink
and i've been playing the two widowmaker albums (ariel bender's band) as well. like the first one and not so sure i need the second one.
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 January 2011 13:39 (seven years ago) Permalink
I have a soft spot for Mick Ronson's Slaughter on 10th Avenue and Play Don't Worry: bizarrely, they contain two covers of Italian mainstream pop songs (his take of Lucio Battisti's I Giardini di Marzo aka Music Is Lethal is astounding).
― Marco Damiani, Saturday, 15 January 2011 14:30 (seven years ago) Permalink
Joe Elliott has formed a band to cover post-Mott-the-Hoople output from Ian & the boys.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 15 January 2011 14:32 (seven years ago) Permalink
They've received the rock doc treatment:
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:29 (six years ago) Permalink
I found a DJ promo copy of Brain Capers yesterday!
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:07 (six years ago) Permalink
Not much to say really, but just enjoyed the BBC4 doc on Mott, Britishes might want to watch on iplayer if they missed it. (or stay up till 2.55 this morning, when it's repeated. I guess that's an option)
― woof, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:06 (five years ago) Permalink
I need to find out which of their lps I rate, don't think I've listened to them anywhere near enough. Enjoyed the documentary when i saw it a couple of weeks back.
Have had a couple of their lps on disc for a few years, including the 2fer of the 1st 2 which I don't think has the best sound. THink i need to pick up The Hoople and Brain Capers on disc too.
I've seen Brain Capers refered to as protopunk or similar on a couple of occasions. Not sure if that's down to Clash connections, not hearing it on the FLAC files I have of it that I noticed anyway. May just be taht they're too quiet sounding.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 23 March 2013 23:36 (five years ago) Permalink
I think the protopunk content of Capers is maybe down to "Death May Be Your Santa Claus" being on it? I don't really hear much protopunk going on, thought they seemed to have an influence on Slaughter and the Dogs...
All The Young Dudes is turning out to be my favorite of theirs. Most consistent - down to some of the songs being kind of samey - but really good material and production throughout.
― spill vector (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 24 March 2013 08:39 (five years ago) Permalink
They're back! Five November gigs in the UK, all original members but Buffin, who's in poor health. They're playing the O2 of all things. Is this their first arena gig?
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 28 April 2013 03:25 (five years ago) Permalink
I am really pleased they are back together again. I saw one of their warn up shows before their 2009 reunion and it was a lovely experience - the band were enjoying being together as much as the audience loved seeing them together.
― Rob M Revisited, Sunday, 28 April 2013 07:36 (five years ago) Permalink
brain capers is almost too epic
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:18 (two years ago) Permalink
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 17:07 (two years ago) Permalink
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 18 January 2016 17:10 (two years ago) Permalink
― Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2016 17:16 (two years ago) Permalink
i'll sometimes listen to mott the hoople albums and focus in on the drumming alone. he played with such humor and that seemingly effortless swing that characterized that wave of british rock drummers. he always seemed to be playing catch-up to the band. wait for me, guys!
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 18 January 2016 17:47 (two years ago) Permalink
that swing, or whatever it is, is entirely unachievable by modern rock drummers from what i can see. even listening to the zep reunion show, or any classic band with a new drummer (e.g. sabbath, boc, whatever). drummers today are clobberers.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 18 January 2016 17:56 (two years ago) Permalink
Tend to agree with this last.
― Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2016 18:02 (two years ago) Permalink
Thus Sang Freud otm. I remember a John Paul Jones interview from around 1990 where he was asked about Zeppelin's influence on current bands. He said the drummers all completely missed the point, and were all (in Jones' words) "BOOM. BASH. BOOM. BASH." He pointed out that Bonham was heavily influenced by Motown and (especially) James Brown records, and that those elements were completely absent from the work of late 80s/early 90s metal or hard rock drummers.
And drummers today, if they want steady work, have to learn to play with a click-track. All a click-track does is suck the soul out of a drummer. Such towering classics like "Honky Tonk Women," "Superstition" and the Isleys' "Fight The Power" speed the fuck up, which only benefits the songs. But a contemporary producer would hear such speedups as "wrong."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:22 (two years ago) Permalink
Buffin's playing on "Violence" is some of my favorite of anyone. He does the push-pull of the tempo like Ringo, speeding up ever-so-slightly, then pulling back. No drummer today would dare try that.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:24 (two years ago) Permalink
there is always that guy from Helmet...
― scott seward, Monday, 18 January 2016 21:26 (two years ago) Permalink
i do love that guy from helmet...i don't love a lot of modern drummers. there are metal drummers i like.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 January 2016 21:27 (two years ago) Permalink
that guy from helmet is wonderful
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:27 (two years ago) Permalink
Interesting, Tarfumes, I've heard Jimmy Page say that the biggest 'mistake' you could make as a session musican was speeding up - so he was always deliberately breaking that rule w/ Zep.
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:28 (two years ago) Permalink
(i've said it before a million times but it bears repeating. a lot of the olden day heroes of yore had played in a zillion kid/teen/garage/club/wedding bands for years - even at really young ages - and they played a hundred different crowd-pleasing styles and THEN they joined the band that made them famous. they had years of gig experience under less than optimal conditions. battle-tested you could say. this is not true of most musicians starting out now.)
― scott seward, Monday, 18 January 2016 21:35 (two years ago) Permalink
um so they - the people now - they learn how to do something one way - the thing that they like doing - or maybe two ways - and that's about it. they aren't really about variety. though technically they may be very accomplished. to me, it's rare to hear a musician now - especially within rock - who has a musical personality or identity. something that comes through in their playing that tells you who they are and what they are about. not in the way that so many of the old geezers did. of any genre.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 January 2016 21:43 (two years ago) Permalink
yeah all those british drummers probably cut their teeth playing trad jazz, which benefited their later playing so much. buffin was basically the man. RIP.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 00:55 (two years ago) Permalink
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 00:57 (two years ago) Permalink
RIP Buffin. I'm disregarding the fact that I met him and he was kind of a dick because, well, he was in Mott the Hoople.
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 01:08 (two years ago) Permalink
Some Ian Hunter wisdom to cheer you up in this sad time: free summer shows of NYC 2009
― Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 01:57 (two years ago) Permalink
This documentary is so lovely, I've watched it now like 3-4 times. I'd almost think you could do a feature film period piece on Mott and Guy Stevens. I'd really like to track down Ian Hunter's book from the period.
― earlnash, Saturday, 6 February 2016 07:13 (two years ago) Permalink
Very very cool! I will definitely watch this, thanks for posting.
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 6 February 2016 16:49 (two years ago) Permalink
Seeing reports on FB that Overend Watts has passed away (cancer).
― "I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:31 (one year ago) Permalink
― In Walked Bodhisattva (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:01 (one year ago) Permalink
Almost a year to the day after Buffin too. RIP.
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:02 (one year ago) Permalink
RIP Overend. Recover quickly, Mick Ralphs. (suffered a stroke a short time ago.)
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 22 January 2017 23:26 (one year ago) Permalink
morgan fisher on FB:
My dear, darling, crazy friend Peter Overend Watts passed on today. I can't speak, am numb. All I can do is share one of the last emails he sent me, on December 6th 2016. Unedited, unexplained. His bravery, honesty, generosity, open heart and still-devastatingly witty humour during his last days utterly blow me away. He left this world as a total hero, a samurai. Love you, Pete <3
Oh Yay Clifford T. Whoard!Thanks fur your lovely message me old son. Looks like the news is finally out. But PLEASE KEEP IT UNDER YER HAT. IF POSS.Managed to keep it quiet for more than 6 years though - so that was pretty good.If you remember I wasn't great at Hammo in 2009 - felt very grimeworthy then !I just dread being besieged by Mott fans - all PRAYING for me, sending cards or gifts -or worse still, trying to visit me ! God forbid - even tho I don't believe in him - even NOW.Can't deal with all that crap - even tho I know they mean well. My sis got a message from Joe Elliot yesterday which made me think the game might be up. I know Jean and Buff were overwhelmed and were upset by it all after going public.I think it's about 5 years too late for 2nd opinions now son. I've had every type of treatment, surgery etc, - it was far worse than the illness itself ! I've had enough now and am fine about going - it might be plezz up there (or down there)- an adventure, whichever way yer look at it. I'm not in any great pain, just giddy tired and weak. To be honest I'm more worried about Ralphur than myself right now. I really hope he recovers so he can play again. I love the guy so much - just as I love you son. I hated having to tell you that only the original band were doing the reunions - I know it must have hurt you a lot. One of me worst jobs ever. I wish we could've done it but it wasn't financially possble + too difficult to co-ordinate. with everyone concerned.
The Hospice is great - very much like Carry On Nurse - so I 'aint complainin' ! Another 3 decent years of travel would've been good but it's not to be.after all - but I did a hell of a lot anyway.Glad you shifted the skin cancer - and I hope you have a long, healthy and happy life.I can hardly type so I may not be able to keep in touch, but i just wanted you to know that you are still the best musician I ever had the privilege to work with and a brill bloke to boot...... - but David Reid - guitarist from The Contrast 'int far behind you !!! I was gonna bloody join them on electric 6 & 12 string till this bloody disease returnrd. What a bummer that was.Anyway, must sleep now. I refuse to say "Goodbye" [ so I;ll just say ........Take care Morgo - Love you son - Olde Gruff Pete xxx
PS OH - PIES OF GRATE MEAT !! We had some great times didn' t we !
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 January 2017 12:27 (one year ago) Permalink
My list of their (and Ian Hunter's) best.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 03:02 (seven months ago) Permalink
I miss Sweet Angeline which is my favorite faux Dylan ever
― gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 03:25 (seven months ago) Permalink
Nice work! I'd throw The Moon Upstairs on there, and maybe even Threads of Iron from Mad Shadows, but you got just about everything.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 03:31 (seven months ago) Permalink
reunion of mott mach ii dudes.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:58 (six months ago) Permalink