What's the worst mistake that has been inadvertantly added to a review you've written?

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For me, that have to be turning a reference to the Pavement side-project Marble Valley into a Pavement song title - i.e., that "Marble Valley" was actually a Pavement song (this took place within the confines of a review of Stephen Malkmus's solo debut. I still cringe when I think about that.

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 21 February 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh god, the guy who puts the stuff online for the other non FT website I write for was putting up my Lottie interview and as the intro to it he put, "Ronan catches up with one of the hottest FEMALE djs around".


I mean talk about the worst possible mistake.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 21 February 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Completely my fault: I reviewed Joe Jackson's Night and Day II, and made a big deal about how there was no Night and Day I.
I got a letter asking if I was 12 years old.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 21 February 2003 16:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Too bad you weren't interviewing Jordana, Ro.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 February 2003 16:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

In a blurb about an Iggy Pop show at sxsw one year, I refered to "The Passenger" as a Siouxsie and the Banshees cover. At that point, I had only heard the Banshees' version. I felt pretty silly when I learned that Iggy did it first.

boldbury, Friday, 21 February 2003 17:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh god, our editor has no fucking clue about proofreading or anything really. The man insists on turning my "..."s (which, ILXers may have noticed, I use a lot) into ".". So my ponderous "So... whatever happened to Shawn Mullins then? And if you care.... I don't" (or something to that extent) becomes "So. Whatever happened to Shawn Mullins then. And if you care. I don't". Everything starts looking like a telegram after a while.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 21 February 2003 17:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

God yeah the guy at the site always puts in commas fucking everywhere, firstly I resent the principle having my grammar "corrected" by someone who clearly has no idea why he's "correcting" it and secondly I think where I do and don't put commas is quite important to the flow of a sentence, he manages to nail many a good sentence to the cross by sticking in these commas everywhere, it's a real pain in the ass and considering I have to mail him about mistakes like the one above almost every single time I seldom even think of what really needs to be said "hey could you just give me the benefit of the doubt and not do this half edit job on my pieces, I mean let's face it you don't really care what I write".

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 21 February 2003 17:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

I once got the Charlatans' drummer's name wrong in print -- and this after I spent a half an hour interviewin' him. I have a real problem with drummers' names it seems, as I also once asked the drummer for James "are you like a James roadie or something?" Nice.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 February 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

I had an editor who would so heavily work my stuff over, that I eventually started meeting deadlines, just so I could okay his edits.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 21 February 2003 17:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

There was the time a note for my editor at the AMG actually ended up in the review. That was bemusing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 February 2003 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Didn't Anthony DeCurtis of Rolling Stone once famously wax rhapsodic in print about how "Hard to Handle" by the Black Crowes was the best new rock song to have been written in generations (seemingly oblivious to the fact that it's an Otis Redding cover)?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 February 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Uh, did I do that, Ray?

Lee G (Lee G), Friday, 21 February 2003 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Regrettably, years ago I was dating a girl who (among many other things, lord help me) was pathologically jealous. Once, inexplicably, she demanded that I include in my next column a declaration of hatred for Lois and Cibo Matto. Browbeaten and weak-willed, I complied, and my editor left it in! It read something like, "I hate Lois. I hate Cibo Matto" and really had nothing to do with the rest of the column. How sad is that? (Of course, I adore Lois and Cibo Matto). This was a mistake, and the entire relationship was one, also.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, 21 February 2003 18:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's bad Ernest.
My GF often comes up with challenges for me, like "find a way to work 'fried chicken' into one of your articles" and then she rewards me with earthly pleasures if I do in a plausible way.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 21 February 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

God yeah the guy at the site always puts in commas fucking everywhere, firstly I resent the principle having my grammar "corrected" by someone who clearly has no idea why he's "correcting" it and secondly I think where I do and don't put commas is quite important to the flow of a sentence, he manages to nail many a good sentence to the cross by sticking in these commas everywhere, it's a real pain in the ass and considering I have to mail him about mistakes like the one above almost every single time I seldom even think of what really needs to be said "hey could you just give me the benefit of the doubt and not do this half edit job on my pieces, I mean let's face it you don't really care what I write".

Is that a joke? Because it's kind of funny if it is.. Kind of silly if it isn't.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 21 February 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I guess me and my editor sort of broke the whole Jack and Meg White not being brother/sister like two years ago. I wrote in the local paper,

Jack and his sister Meg blah blah blah

but, after they asked if they were really brother/sister, I said it was sort of an in-joke (it was at the time). So it became

Jack and his "sister" Meg blah blah blah

Anyway, some people can be real cunts when they think you've done them wrong somehow.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 21 February 2003 18:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

For a Morcheeba review I wrote back at CMJ my editor replaced my description of the vocals with "Sky Edwards' pipes" ... "pipes" ... ewww..

and probably my worst fault was mispelling the name of Tim Bracy [from the Mendoza Line] as "Tim Barcy"... i heard about that for a while...

david day (winslow), Friday, 21 February 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

not really a mistake, but i have a particular hatred for rape analogies in music journalism and one sub-editor once paraphrased something i was saying in a review i wrote, substituting the words 'date rape' for something longer and more unwieldy and in doing so taking what i was saying slightly out of context.

david mc, Friday, 21 February 2003 20:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

I had an editor constantly misread/misspell what I wrote. (This was back in the day when I would type up the review and then he would have to keyline it...) Still one of my favorites:

"Jazz Butcher" rewritten as "Jazz Botcher" Editor was such a hack.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 21 February 2003 20:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

at melody maker, having a reference to Isaac Hayes rewritten as a reference to 'barry white', because ver kids wouldn't know who isaac hayes was, and of course they're the same thing, aren't they?.

at kerrang!, having overworked sub add that the blood brothers formed in 1987, only for me to disciver, upon meeting them, that they were still in diapers in 1987.

stevie (stevie), Friday, 21 February 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

about 3 times now, reviews i've written for the wire have included a "TK" where i'd meant to look up a track name (and no, i'm not talking about breeders albums). ok, so that means shitty proofing on my part, but i was shocked those went all the way through to print. do they not use "TK" in the UK?

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Saturday, 22 February 2003 00:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

no

stevie (stevie), Saturday, 22 February 2003 10:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Just a few weeks ago I wrote about about Freaks' long-awaited debut album. No wonder I'd been waiting so long. It's their third album. That's what you get when you don't include a press release with a promo, and the journo in questions has a wandering mind...

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 22 February 2003 10:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Worst was in CTCL, actually! A review of Cockthrush saying "They'd be my favourite band, were it not for the INDELICATE matter of their music" was changed mysterious to "were it not for the SMALL matter of their music".

Uuuuuhhhh... NO! Indelicate means rude, socially unacceptable, unavoidable - NOT small. Good god, that changed an utter dis into a mild complaint. ARGH!!!

Just as well that I had to edit the whole thing anyway when I shagged their drummer... ;-)

kate, Saturday, 22 February 2003 11:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

you shagged the DRUMMER in a band named COCKTHRUSH?

surely there are hygiene issues here.

david mc, Saturday, 22 February 2003 14:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Now this is the office gossip I'm all for. :-) And hey, David, do I get any of my review requests or not? ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 February 2003 15:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Names have been changed to protect the guilty. Besides, I didn't start calling them Cockthrush, *he* did. After we broke up, it just stuck.

However, Cockthrush WOULD be a great name for a band. Isn't there a Canadian band called Cockthrush, or am I thinking of Thrush Hermit or Lesser Spotted Titmouse?

Get my mind out of the gutter! I thought getting laid was supposed to STOP all this filth!

kate, Saturday, 22 February 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Surely it excites you into wanting more.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 February 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

DAMMIT!!!

I'm going to have to start writing for magazines to trade stories for sex on a more regular basis. Anyone want to hire me? ;-)

kate, Saturday, 22 February 2003 16:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

ned - i'm not commissioning until i've sorted the promos out, got everyone's requests in, had a lie down and a think about it for five bleedin minutes (schyeah, like that'll ever happen) and then i'll let you know.

kate - minor indie celebrity sex tittle tattle as album reviews? it's a future.

david mc, Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Like a terminator 2 style the earth is a wasteland one?

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

or thunderdome.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

"two man enter, one man leave"

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

thunderdome or videodrome?

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

my bad, i was thinking of "girls gone wild"

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

debbie does datsuns

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've been lucky.

The most recent worst for me was my Good Charlotte review for the voice said 'the song My Bloody Valentine starts like the best MBV song in the world. The sentence should have continued 'and then gets better'.

For the teen page, "Off Centre," of the Centre Daily Times I did a review of Pinkerton back in high school. I made a comment as to the sound being "dirtier" than on the Blue Album. So they made the headline "Pinkerton is dirty, but it works." Ech.

Oh, and proving they never read the stuff, they printed my review of the Cure's Wild Mood Swings twice on nonconsecutive occasions. Nobody but me noticed.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

David, the whole story of the boy who offered to trade sexual favours for an article is the entire focus of Fiona's next column. I knew Jerry wouldn't be able to resist. I have however offered H***** a kill option if he really REALLY hates the article. I'm talking about the music and the power dynamics of the press, not reviewing the sex, mind you.

(BTW, which My Bloody Valentine EP is that "lick lick suck suck" song on coz I'd love to play it tonight...)

I am going to get a BAD reputation at CTCL if I keep this up... Heh heh. I said keep it up.

KILL ME. KILL ME NOW!!!

kate, Saturday, 22 February 2003 19:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

actually, what Anthony said about editors not reading reviews reminded me of a review i wrote for my university's student paper of Placebo at Wolverhampton Civic. this was just after the Daphne & Celeste dissing and the gig was so face-achingly pretentiously COCK that i couldnt help myself and wrote the entire thing as a review of the best Daphne & Celeste gig the world had ever seen without mentioning Placebo anywhere other than in the 'Placebo - Wolverhampton Civic Hall' heading.

i was sure that despite it being the best thing to ever grace that rag's pages and given the narrow-minded britpop-centric consensus of the fascist editors that the review would never make it in, but it appeared complete with a half page promo photo of Placebo. turned out they never noticed that the review wasn't about Placebo at all..

(of course Placebo was PRECISELY what the review was about, but you know what i mean)

david mc, Saturday, 22 February 2003 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kate - the "licksuck" song's called 'Slow', actually ...'You Made Me Realise'/'Slow'7"(?)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Writing for The Times (momentarily), the proof readers actually ADDED several factual errors to a story I'd written on a cartoonist - including his birthplace. When I pointed this out, I suddenly found myself without Times work.

This pales into insignificance to an Australian paper that changed a Nirvana story I wrote to, "Kurt Cobain died of an overdose". (None of the readers noticed.)

Jerry (Jerry), Sunday, 23 February 2003 22:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

then i'll let you know.

Rah!

The sentence should have continued 'and then gets better'.

Should it? ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 February 2003 22:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kurt Cobain died of an overdose
An overdose of bullets, surely?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 23 February 2003 23:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Lee G. - yeah, it WAS you, but no hard feelings :)

When I worked at my first daily/weekly newspaper job, my editor employed what I like to call "slash and burn" editing to make stories shorter. He'd hastily scan a story then cut what he thought didn't need to be there for the sake of length without any concern for continuity (or, in many cases, grammar or punctuation). I was terrified that I wouldn't be able to get a job at any other newspaper due to the quality of my clips; fortunately, I was mistaken.

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 24 February 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kurt Cobain died of an overdose
An overdose of bullets, surely?

I thought it was...lead poisoning...ho ho.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 24 February 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

In a Belle and Sebastian review the "name check Johnny Marr" somehow became "name drop Johnny Myrr". I actually agonized over this for days.

Carey (Carey), Monday, 24 February 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

seventeen years pass...

Regrettably, years ago I was dating a girl who (among many other things, lord help me) was pathologically jealous. Once, inexplicably, she demanded that I include in my next column a declaration of hatred for Lois and Cibo Matto. Browbeaten and weak-willed, I complied, and my editor left it in! It read something like, "I hate Lois. I hate Cibo Matto" and really had nothing to do with the rest of the column. How sad is that? (Of course, I adore Lois and Cibo Matto). This was a mistake, and the entire relationship was one, also.
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, February 21, 2003 1:11 PM bookmarkflaglink

omg - i have so many questions

but sadly i don't think this person be here anymore

Neanderthal, Monday, 26 October 2020 04:55 (three years ago) link

When I was in college, I reviewed a Korn album (Life Is Peachy) for a national publication. The editor condensed a somewhat subtle and underhanded (but wordy) point into the much briefer phrase: “But who cares? 'Cuz it rocks.”

Don’t know if this counts as a “mistake,” but it sure pissed me off.

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Monday, 26 October 2020 05:09 (three years ago) link

there was a dude who used to write for the webzine I wrote for, and he was a terrible writer, but also knew very little about the music he was writing about. it was bad enough that writers complained to the editor about him, and he always defended him. even though almost every time he got called out, he blamed the editor for mistranscribing what he wrote.

the biggest mistakes he made:

1) Writing the phrase "Grindcore has never been a political genre" in a review of Circle of Dead Children. after being clowned for his obvious ignorance of the origins of grindcore, he backpedaled to "I just meant it SHOULDN'T be!", which made even less sense (why should a genre inherently be apolitical?)

2) Writing "self-defecating" when he actually meant "self-deprecating".

3) Writing "blastbeat guitar riffs" because the doofus didn't actually know what a blastbeat was. He then backpedaled and said he wrote "blasting guitar riffs" and that the editor must have mis-copied, only for the editor to respond "no, actually, that's exactly what you wrote".

Neanderthal, Monday, 26 October 2020 05:15 (three years ago) link

2) Writing "self-defecating" when he actually meant "self-deprecating"

I laffed out loud at this

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Monday, 26 October 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

This is somewhat off-topic; but it's late on a Sunday night, so I'll take the liberty (it's another college story).

In or around 1996, I wrote a humor-ish piece for the school paper titled: "The Book of Luke: For Today's Twentysomethings, Star Wars Is a Sacred Text." It explored the idea that the movies were key to Gen X childhoods, and ended with the "joke" that millions would never recover if the then-forthcoming prequels turned out to be bad. (This was at a time when the world was not flooded with Star Wars thinkpieces -- hard as that is to imagine today -- so the premise wasn't quite as hackneyed as it seems now.)

Anyway, I misremembered the name Anakin Skywalker as "Attican Skywalker," and it ended up in print that way. I eventually realized the gaffe, to my embarrassment. I could have avoided it by going to the computer lab and running some AltaVista searches on the references I was making as I wrote (why didn't I think of that?)... but student editors went over the piece, and presumably had WWW access. Couldn't they have helped out a hacky feature writer?

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Monday, 26 October 2020 06:15 (three years ago) link


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