Los Lobos C/D

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Anyone even care?

fletrejet, Friday, 21 February 2003 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i dont care but im going to say classic for 'kiko and the lavender moon'

chaki (chaki), Friday, 21 February 2003 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

They're tight...Little Feat of the '90s. "Colossal Head" is OK and I like the Latin Playboys records.

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Friday, 21 February 2003 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Little Feat of the '90s

Little Feat??!!!! Only the '90s??!!!!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 February 2003 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Little Feat is good?

fletrejet, Friday, 21 February 2003 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

C'mon now, Los Lobos is pure classic, full stop. I can't think of too many other bands that have the sheer breadth that they do without sounding like a novelty act or something: from traditional conjunto through to blistering rockers, from straight-ahead pop through to murky sonic experimentation. All of the stuff I've heard is great, though maybe I could do without "La Bamba", just from overexposure (in a sense it was the worst thing that could have happened to them....even though it probably gave them wads of cash, it pigeonholed them in the minds of people who had never heard them before, which was very unfortunate).

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 21 February 2003 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with Sean about the breadth of their output (and I'll resist from making a cheap gag about their width). I'd bracket them alongside groups like the Dead and The Band in this respect. And as I said on another thread, for a Mexican-American band, the 'American' part is at least as important as the 'Mexican'.

'How will the wolf survive?', 'By the light of the moon' and 'Kiko' are all excellent (with 'Kiko' the pick), but I've not heard a bad record by them. 'Good Morning Aztlan' is half-decent, and I can recommend the compilation 'Just Another Band from East LA'.

Saw them recently at the Barbican, and they were fine but the audience was embarrassingly subdued. They just got on with it, but they probably didn't kick loose in quite the way they can. Finished with a stonking version of 'My Generation' in memory of John Entwhistle.

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 21 February 2003 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

the world may say they agree or disagree with what you say i say the worlds typical view of a perfec t comment is not as the soul decides who we are and how we respond.

claire flynn (miss understood), Friday, 21 February 2003 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

let ppl decide who they are and so will the world let it decide and we have lost the fight

claire flynn (miss understood), Friday, 21 February 2003 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I like 'em! Also the Latin Playboys record I have is pretty interesting.

Sean (Sean), Friday, 21 February 2003 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

yep...the latin playboys stuff and the ll records recorded by froom and blake are pretty cool.

anybody else fond of other mexican american rock from around the time ll started up? isn't it criminal that the only plugz i can find is on the repo man soundtrack?

jq higgins, Friday, 21 February 2003 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

They're always great live, and they haven't made a bad record. Search "Colossal Head".

dan (dan), Friday, 21 February 2003 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, and one of 'em voiced the Taco Bell dog singing "Chances Are."

I swear that this is not a joke.

(Classic, btw--the band, not the dog).

J (Jay), Friday, 21 February 2003 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

i have a very soft spot for "how will the wolf survive".

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Last album wasn't bad either.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 22 February 2003 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw them live about a month ago and they were fantastic. The Neighborhood and Kiko are great albums, but unlike some previous posters, I did not like Colossal Head at all.

Mark M, Saturday, 22 February 2003 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link

whats the song they did that won an MTV award back in '96 or thereabouts? video was a bit like Moby's 'Go' video - all little people doing weird dances or something?!

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 22 February 2003 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Slightly related topic: Did they ever find out the whole story behind David Hidalgo's wife's murder?

paul cox (paul cox), Saturday, 22 February 2003 03:52 (nineteen years ago) link

you mean Cesar Rosas' wife

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 22 February 2003 07:41 (nineteen years ago) link

The song Little Japan, off of Colossal Head, is fantastic. Yuka Honda plays on it, i believe.

as a band, Classic.

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 22 February 2003 08:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, yeah. Cesar Rosas.

paul cox (paul cox), Saturday, 22 February 2003 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...
I care and I declare that the new one, "The Town and the City," is pretty kickass and weird and atmospheric. I'm on a 'rediscover Los Lobos' kick right now and I think they're due for recognition as one of the Great American Bands.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic for breaking Krusty's fall and dying.

a.b. (alanbanana), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

ha, i just saw vinyl copies of *how will the wolf survive* and the *and a time to dance* (or whatever it was called) EP, the only two records i ever cared about by this band, for $2 each in manhattan yesterday, and i almost bought them then decided not to, though maybe i should've. i never understood their '90s art-rockish stuff -- seemed to me like they wanted to be caifanes maybe, but weren't anywhere near good enough. maybe someday i'll relisten to it, though.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Chxxx, is there ANY Spanish-language rock that you cannot compare disparagingly with Caifanes?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Latin Playboys stuff is better, but still - classic!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

As a live band they've caught the festival jam disease and the last guest star plagued album was pretty far from classic. I'm hoping the new album is more garagy than artsy.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

xp to Haiku:

Of course, tons of it. And I LIKE tons of it, especially in the early-to-mid '90s, when Los Lobos were supposedly at their peak of weirdness. But compared to Maldita Vecindad, Fobia, Santa Sabina, Aterciopelados, Los Fabulosos Cadillacs, La Castanenada, La Derecha, Heroes Del Silencio -- TONS of bands at that time -- Los Lobos's supposed weirdness just sounded really timid to me. And thin, too - they didn't rock as hard, they had less dance in their music, their prog beauty seemed way more amorphous. (What Caifanes was doing though, seemed more what Los Lobos and Latin Playboys too were *shooting* for, whether they'd actually heard Caifanes at the time or not. And they probably had, since Caifanes, in Mexico, where HUGE. But Los Lobos weren't even the most interesting Latin-rock band in the USA, actually -- I'd take Pastilla or Maria Fatal over them.) (As for their earlier stuff, I'd compare them to the Blasters, but not as good, with more emphasis on the Tex-Mex element that the Blasters had, though the Blasters did it first, in songs like "Border Radio," as I recall. But neither of them did it as much fun as Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs.) My main question while looking at that EP and LP yesterday was "damn, these guys were a bunch of cornballs. But I liked these records okay, once, so maybe I shouldn't mind." And I probably wouldn't have. Just didn't feel like carrying them around. (And again, maybe I WAS underrating their '90s stuff at the time; it's possible -- I'm just telling you how that hit my ears then. And for whatever it's worth, I actually DID buy a CD copy of *La Pista Y La Corazon* at the Virgin megastore last week, believe it or not -- but not for me; as a birthday present for somebody. It was the first Los Lobos album I bought in decades!)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I totally don't get "the cornballs" thing, and The Blasters weren't doing Tex-Mex before Los Lobos. Los Lobos had been playing together since the early '70s and their first album was 1978.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, okay then Chucx. (Boy, ask an idle question...) But it seems to me that comparing Los Lobos, one of the most American bands of all time, to Mexican or South American bands is pretty misleading. And it's not like Kiko and Colossal Head were really any kind of weird avant-garde statement or anything, just the same sorts of grooves with a bit of Tom Waits and psychedelia layered on top. They were allowed to do that, it's a free country. I've got Kiko on right now, and it sounds pretty and fun, like my wife in a summer dress. And no one can say that they aren't great lyricists, although I know that lyrics are overrated and stupid and rockist and boring.

I might be wrong; as I said, I'm re-investigating it all, as I was kind of out of their loop, or they were out of mine. But I'm loving every possibly-cornball second of everything I hear, even The Ride, which Roy underestimates above. And Roy, the new one alternates between atmospheric stuff and more boogie-ish stuff, cumbia rock b/w floaty/growly things.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

funny that this thread should revive, since just yesterday i heard their song "how will the wolf survive?" -- damn if they weren't tight back then!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

>The Blasters weren't doing Tex-Mex before Los Lobos. Los Lobos had been playing together since the early '70s and their first album was 1978.<

Yeah, good point. I always forget all the local stuff Los Lobos was doing before their first national EP (not to mention the rockabilly-label Blasters LP before *their* first national LP). But wasn't Los Lobos's earlier stuff extremely folkloric, mainly devoid of the more eclectic, and well, I hate to say modernized but I will anyway, country/r&b/soul/rock/etc hybrid they eventually hit with, a hybrid I'm *pretty* sure the Blasters uncovered first? That's certainly the impression I always got, though I could be wrong. Either way, as far as I can tell, the Blasters did it *better* -- better (as in more specific, less obtuse) songwriting, better (as in more beautiful) singing, more push. And even at that, I don't much care about the Blasters (or the Alvins solo) after *Nonfiction* or so, either. (And honestly, Los Lobos's lyrics never really did all that much for me.)

>it's not like Kiko and Colossal Head were really any kind of weird avant-garde statement or anything, just the same sorts of grooves with a bit of Tom Waits and psychedelia layered on top. They were allowed to do that, it's a free country<

Who said they weren't? But yeah, maybe it was the Tom Waits part that stood in my way. Tom Waits parts do tend to do that to me. (And given that Tom ranks with history's all-time cornballs, and given that NPR-style "roots-rock", which usually tends not to have very much rock in it, is kinda cornball by definition, there you go.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Of course, maybe I just never NOTICED what amazing songwriters Los Lobos were. That's certainly possible, and it's been a while since I tried to find out. But back then, I was always stumped by the claim.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

well I favor 'em that way, but that might be kind of AAA radio of me

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm into lots of cornballs, of course, but


gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link

The new Town and City is crap, even though Tchad Blake is producing it. My heart weeps. I love Los Lobos but they've totally coasted the last few albums--there's no energy with the Blake productions, so if you don't have really wicked arrangements and awesome hooks, it's just flatlined. Come back Mitchell! All is forgiven!

Jubalique (Jubalique), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

haha - I like Mitchell but his finest moment is "Cafe Flesh"!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I've heard of this legendary Cafe Flesh. I needs to find it. Needs to! In the meantime, I shall resign myself to Valley of the Dolls.

Jubalique (Jubalique), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

The 1980's Los Lobos that was a Tex-Mex rockabilly/R&B band - CLASSIC.

The 2000's Los Lobos that is a Tex-Mex jam band - DUD.

I'm only familiar with the 1990's avant-garde Lobos in passing, so I can't comment (even though I love the Latin Playboys). But when a review copy of the GOOD MORNING (MAZATLAN?) album came my way around 2002 or so, I was shocked at how hippiefied they'd become.

For some reason, the vinyl of HOW WILL THE WOLF SURVIVE? is so common that if you pay more than $3 for it, you've been had. It's probably the best $3-or-less album you can get for the money.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Thursday, 13 July 2006 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Addendum: like I said, I still liked Los Lobos in the '90s, but hadn't kept up with them like I once had. So when that jam-band GOOD MORNING VIETNAM album (or whatever the hell that was called) turned up, I was wondering HOW did they get that way and WHEN did the transformation take place? Ah well.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Thursday, 13 July 2006 03:47 (sixteen years ago) link

a. Texas is not California.
b. I just listened to Good Morning Aztlan two days ago and it contains tight pop songs with solos but without any real "jamming." Maybe you don't like the songs, and yeah they might be kind of hippified sometimes (they have played with Jerry Garcia), but that record didn't sound anything like jam-band stuff to me.
c. Are you sure you're not thinking about Los Lonely Boys?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link

HAIKUNYM: You can split hairs all you want to, but the point is that they're not doing the same rootsy rockabilly/R&B thing that they used to 20 years ago. They have every right to do their hippy-dippy thing, but that doesn't mean I gotta like it. And I don't.

And GOOD MORNING SACRAMENTO (or whatever the hell that was called) may as well be an avant-garde Los Lonely Boys. I'm sticking with HOW WILL THE WOLF SURVIVE and BY THE LIGHT OF THE MOON.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Friday, 14 July 2006 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link

and YOU can capitalize ANYTHING you WANT to and get the ALBUM TITLE WRONG as many TIMES as you think NECESSARY to make your POINT, provided you HAVE one, and I ALREADY SAID 'maybe you dont' like the songs' so I guess I ALREADY KNOW what you're saying, and what you're saying is OH THEY WERE BETTER IN THE OLDEN TIMES SO I DON'T HAVE TO CARE ANYMORE TRA LA LA.

WHICH, as I've said before, IS FINE. Because those albums rocked too. But they always still do rocking tracks on all their records. Yes, including on Good Morning AZTLAN.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 14 July 2006 04:34 (sixteen years ago) link

a) I capitalize not because I'm yellin' at you, but because I don't see how I can make italics on this damn site! I know you just did, but as of yet I haven't unlocked that secret! So until I do, I AM GONNA CAPITALIZE MY NEKKID ASS OFF - TRA LA LA LA LA LA...

b) So they still do rocking tracks, huh? Rock as in "classic rock," or rock as in greasy, pre-psychedelic, ROCK & ROLL like they used to do in the punk clubs back in the 80s? 'Cause for the one minute I owned GOOD EVENING MASHMAHKAN (sold it long ago), I only remember hearing rock of the posthippie "classic rock" variety. I would have bought an El Chicano album if that's what I wanted.

Now you may be right - remember, I sold that joker because none of it sounded good to me. So even if they rocked and rolled like on the Slash albums, evidently it didn't make an impression.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Friday, 14 July 2006 12:33 (sixteen years ago) link

i was hoping the video for 'Kiko & The Lavender Moon' would be on youtube. but no joy. :(

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 July 2006 12:34 (sixteen years ago) link

i've not checked Launch or other places for it mind you.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 July 2006 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic, but I do think they've relied a little too much on jam band tropes (and fans) as of late. Also, I could have sworn Froom and/or Blake haven't really been on board for the last couple of albums. I know John Leckie did one.

(P.S. Froom's "Cafe Flesh" soundtrack - "The Key of Cool" - is pretty dull.)

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 14 July 2006 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

it works well with the movie.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 July 2006 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Alright, so I got Colossal Head. Thoughts?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 17 July 2006 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

It's the Los Lobos version of a Latin Playboys record. Not inspired like their 80s stuff but a very solid album that manages to rock (but so much with the roll) a lot for its tired vibe, and I love the late-nite-jamming tracks (Life is Good, Buddy Ebsen Loves the Nighttime).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link


brimstead, Thursday, 24 April 2014 04:54 (eight years ago) link

invoking robert hilburn is not a good thing, ugh what a filthy sausage

brimstead, Thursday, 24 April 2014 05:06 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...


Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:06 (five years ago) link

I mean even this dopey Disney songs album is p great

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:11 (five years ago) link

yeah Hildago's take on that Toy Story song.. "I Will Go Sailing No More" is just gorgeous

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:18 (five years ago) link

Hildago and Rojas became friends over a mutual love of Randy Newman records in the early 70s, so kind of a full circle thing.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:19 (five years ago) link

So underrated. Like I've said before, it's like somebody flipped a switch and they were suddenly not cool, despite a relative lack of drop off.

The more you know: supposedly they are notorious at local clubs for drinking at the bar dry at the end of the night.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:09 (five years ago) link

Ugh, drinking the bar dry at the end of the night.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:10 (five years ago) link

feel like Rojas' blues dad schtick has taken them into "uncool" territory

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:25 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

On a major kick: Will the Wolf Survive, the superior By the Light of the Moon, the even better The Neighborhood. As forgotten as they are, it's not often mentioned how their guitars got tougher, the rhythms more fascinating; my stereotypical thinking led me to think Mitchell Froom did his clinkety clankety Froomery on otherwise solid songs instead of complementing already weird songs.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 02:11 (two years ago) link

Massively underrated band. Someone on twitter once asked for people to name the most underrated band, and Jason Isbell, immediately and to his credit, posted "Los Lobos."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 02:34 (two years ago) link

Don't remember this thread, should have long since posted this, from my Nashville Scene ballot comments re 2010 albums:

On Los Lobos' Tin Can Trust, it seems like the narrator is on the
verge, he's some old tired guy, but made up his mind to do something,
take revenge and/or a commission, various indicators of volatility
keep rolling by or up the block, and little jolts--I know, enough with
the foreplay already, but the tension keeps getting renewed,
reinforced, and the Dead cover, "West L.A. Fadeaway," fits perfectly,
with no crunchy granola attached
(it's all sidewalks and traffic, the whole album, and then
there's the sardonic "happy ending" history short). A cliche to say
it's a soundtrack for movies you can make up, but it really seems to
work that way, rumbling implications--if it were so definite a
storyline, would get too familiar too fast, perhaps. It is badass
urban country, obsessive as a shot glass lens.

dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 02:48 (two years ago) link

my fault that i don't really know the others, but kiko is an incredible album

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 02:52 (two years ago) link

Yeah, all the tracks I remember are pretty vivid, need to check it again.
xpost Then from 2015 Pazz & Jop comments:
Los Lobos, Gates of Gold: Sun-dried rough-edged West Coast splendor, variegated, acerbic, appetitive, keen. Still got the touch & the L.A. River. (Jimmy Carter: "When somebody described Ronald Reagan to ma as an ambitious old man, I laughed. I'm not laughing any more.")

That's still the most recent I've heard. Maybe they'll do some Deluxe Edition expanded reissues, or maybe they have?

dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 03:04 (two years ago) link

I used to have an unexplainable aversion to these guys, probably because my only frame of reference when I was younger was the La Bamba soundtrack, but I picked up the Just Another Band from East L.A. comp earlier this year and belatedly realized how great they are.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 15:16 (two years ago) link

I have a good friend who is (or I guess, was) always buying great seats to shows in his city and then generously inviting friends along. A few years back he bought some seats to see Los Lobos at sort of a seated club situation, and apparently no one wanted to go with him! He said he ended up going by himself, iirc, and that the band absolutely killed it.

Some trivia: everyone always cites bands like the Pogues, but I've had a club owner tell me that Los Lobos is the only band that ever shut them down at the end of the night. Out of booze, out of time, everyone has to go home.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 15:26 (two years ago) link

I will ride for Collosal Head forever but I know I’m in the minority

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:19 (two years ago) link

"Mas y Mas" and the title track kick ass.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:20 (two years ago) link

I don't understand xhuck's Tom Waits comparisons. Waits loves his clinkety-clankety theatrics, but From and Los Lobos didn't pursue grotesquerie for its own sake.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:22 (two years ago) link

it’s way more restrained than waits thing. I get a kind of lofi trip-hop vibe from a lot of stuff, e.g. the murky ride cymbals on stuff like “life is good” reminds me of portishead.

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:32 (two years ago) link

“little japan” is a sleeper

the whole last half is really interesting, lots of instrumentals.

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:34 (two years ago) link

I love "Colossal Head."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:59 (two years ago) link

Speaking of Los Lobos and The Pogues, there were two very young women, Nancy McCallion and Catherine Zavala, who had a Southwestern New Wave band, but they saw LL and TP on the same bill in London, then went back to Tucson and started The Mollys, which was Irish-Chicana folk-country-rock-polka etc (also sounded like they knew Willner's Weill tribs), which, why not, the Irish went West to work in the mines, also do some shooting (the band name is in part a reference to the Molly MaGuires from back East), also there was (stay with me now just a little bit longer) the San Patricio Brigade, who switched sides in the Mexican-American War, from the latter to former, and inspired The Chieftans' San Patricio, which includes Linda Ronstadt, Van Dyke Parks, enough Coody to appease the suits, Los Tigres del Norte, Lila Downs, and many more, incl. three tracks feat. Los Centzontles, a really good, deeply knowledgeable young folk-rock etc., who made a couple albums with appearances by David Hidalgo, and I think some other Lobos have showed up onstage them (a publicist told me was having trouble placing coverage in some Americana outlets, even w Hidalgo in there, also He and Taj Mahal were on the follow-up, but something about Los C not sounding American e enough)(I've heard grumbles about that Richard Thompson fella too, I shit you not).

dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:13 (two years ago) link

Also, though I've never been that into his lyrics or his voice, can see how Waits albums like Rain Dogs and Swordfishtrombones relate sonically to some LL, also the Latin Playboys sidetrip, which xgau loved, esp. the s/t:
...David Hidalgo and Louis Pérez rework Kiko outtakes to undercut the band's Springsteenian quest for meaning. Whenever the lyrical impressions lapse toward the stolid or sodden, they're lifted by the spare, bent music: echoes and silences, filtered voices and ancient klaxons, Indian film sounds and scratchy samples of street bebop, jagged Beefheart rhythms and idle guitar thoughts, friendly melodies from a Victrola perched on a barrio windows..., gave that one an A+, and Dose an A, also wrote a bit longer, all of that's here (scroll way down past these Consumer Guide entries for link to other piece):

dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:35 (two years ago) link

I've meant to check out all the post-Colossal Head albums, can only attest that The Town and the City is really good. Tin Can Trust seems like a good next step? (intrigued by "all sidewalks and traffic")

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:33 (two years ago) link

Alfred's writing prompted me to listen to their first two Slash albums last night. (How Will the Wolf Survive? is only 33 minutes, By the Light of the Moon only 40.) I hadn't heard Wolf in over 30 years; I never heard Moon at the time. Listening now, I hear lots of '80s barroom blues in their sound; Stevie Ray Vaughan and the Fabulous Thunderbirds are in there for sure, especially in the guitar tones and the trash-can drum sound on a song like "My Baby's Gone".


I'm gonna keep listening. I think I might wind up hating the albums the critics love, but we'll see.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:45 (two years ago) link

Well, thank you. I'm in the minority for thinking they got better with each album; of the first three, The Neighborhood is the peak.


Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:51 (two years ago) link

"Be Still" is so beautiful. "The Neighborhood" is often overlooked in the band's evolution (and features not one but two cameos from fellow Ignored For No Good Reason roots-rocker John Hiatt).

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 November 2020 16:58 (two years ago) link

heh -- the Hiatt cameo sounded my alarm bells.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:59 (two years ago) link

There are plenty of good reasons to ignore John Hiatt. Signed, person who bought Slow Turning at 16 based on a rapturous Rolling Stone review, and even saw the man live (with Robert Cray opening!) that fall.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:01 (two years ago) link

I bet it was a great double bill! I almost never listen to John Hiatt, but I saw him on some bill with a bunch of other songwriters, and every time it was his turn to sing he absolutely silenced the crowd, so the dude's got my respect.

I've always thought that "The Neighborhood" sounded pretty great, too, so I looked up the producer, and I was surprised to see a name I didn't recognize: Larry Hirsch. Turns out Hirsch was the engineer on a ton of T-Bone Burnett/Mitchell Froom/Nick Lowe productions.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 November 2020 17:03 (two years ago) link

What I wrote a couple days ago.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 13:24 (two years ago) link

The Band influence otm; "When the Circus Comes" on "Kiko" is one of the few songs indebted to the Band that actually *sounds* like the Band, right down to the pinched guitar harmonics (which simultaneously also makes it one of few guitar solos inspired by Robertson's playing that actually *sounds* like Robertson's playing).


Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:09 (two years ago) link


brimstead, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:26 (two years ago) link

kiko is a truly weird and beautiful album, i went through a serious kick a few years back. i recall loving "arizona skies" and "wicked rain." also that haunting title track.

re: will the wolf survive, another really solid album, if a bit more traditional than kiko. "i got loaded" will live forever thanks to bull durham

glengarry gary beers (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:42 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Signed to New West and a new (mostly) covers album, Native Sons, due out in July

1. Love Special Delivery (Thee Midniters)
2. Misery (Barrett Strong)
3. Bluebird/For What It’s Worth (Buffalo Springfield)
4. Los Chucos Suaves (Lalo Guerrero)
5. Jamaica Say You Will (Jackson Browne)
6. Never No More (Percy Mayfield)
7. Native Son (Los Lobos) * the sole original on the album
8. Dichoso (Willie Bobo)
9. Farmer John (The Premiers)
10. Sail On, Sailor (Beach Boys)
11. The World Is A Ghetto (WAR)
12. Flat Top Joint (Blasters)
13. Where Lovers Go (The Jaguars)

kinda digging this one:

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 20:07 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

I like how Shandling makes the band cut up a little right before they go into their song.


— SNL Hosts Introducing the Musical Guest (@snlhostsintro) November 29, 2021

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 22:02 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Los Lobos live on this latest World Cafe: just did "It's Christmas in Texas," now "Please Come Home For Christmas," w tuba and maybe another bonus horn, kinda The Band-ish (instrumentally)

dow, Sunday, 19 December 2021 00:15 (eleven months ago) link

Oh wait,it was just an excerpt of a previous live set, now they've gone to Tracy Thorne's version of "River," the suitably inconsolable sleeper seasonal classick: nice cover, duh, but already hearing JM's ace original quite a bit on local jazz station, this and every year.

dow, Sunday, 19 December 2021 00:22 (eleven months ago) link

This is Los Lobos at their most the Band:


Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 December 2021 00:29 (eleven months ago) link

three months pass...

From New West:

Congratulations to Los Lobos on their Grammy win last night! The band was awarded Best Americana Album for their 2021 studio album Native Sons at last night’s ceremony. It is their fourth Grammy Award win.
Watch Steve Berlin accept the award on behalf of the band, and catch Los Lobos near you as they begin the next leg of their extensive Native Sons tour this Friday.


tour dates:

dow, Monday, 4 April 2022 17:51 (seven months ago) link

I really regret missing their free show at Prospect Park in Brooklyn a few years back. There was the threat of heavy rain, so I didn't want to make the 90-120 minute trek just to be disappointed. (It was merely a light rain.)

birdistheword, Monday, 4 April 2022 17:55 (seven months ago) link

Ah damn. Did he record with them?

Francisco González, a founding member of Los Lobos, has died. He was 68.
In the early 1970s, González joined fellow musicians Louie Perez, David Hidalgo, Cesar Rosas and Conrad Lozano to form one of East LA's most eclectic bands.

Los Lobos paid tribute to González on its Instagram page.

"We are deeply saddened by the passing of our brother and founding member, Francisco González. He, along with Cesar, started the group in 1973 for the purpose of 'playing Mexican music for our mothers,' as he always put it. Francisco was a brilliant musician, and after leaving the group in 1976 to follow a different musical path, he went on to master the Veracruz harp, then became the musical director of El Teatro Campesino theatre group—always shining across a lifetime of accomplishments."


dow, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 17:35 (seven months ago) link

nah he never recorded with them

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 17:52 (seven months ago) link

four months pass...

Cool concert review:

The band brought Nuevo guitarist David Jimenez and keyboardist Anthony Farrell onstage for the jam, which must have lasted 10 minutes at least, and then each performer got to walk through “The Neighborhood,” roaming about on fret boards, across the ivories, over the baritone sax’s buttons. Los Lobos drummer Fredo Ortiz, the longtime Beastie Boys drummer, held down the beat and was as entertaining to watch as he was to hear. It’s hard to put into words how exhilarating this particular moment of the show was, but if Los Lobos brings “The Neighborhood” to your neighborhood, you should try to be there.


dow, Thursday, 11 August 2022 23:06 (three months ago) link

I read the Los Lobos "Dream in Blue" book and learned so much, like how they never grew up particularly interested in traditional music, or even acoustic instruments, gravitating toward the usual jammy stuff in the '60s - Cream, Hendrix, the Dead, and so on - but then followed the lead of bands like the Band and Fairport Convention in embracing their own folk equivalent; they would scour the thrift shops for all these old traditional instruments that no one wanted. Or that they never really bothered writing their own songs until much later, maybe the early '80s, taking specific inspiration from the Blasters. Lots of other great stuff in there, too. Worth a read. Also discovered this fascinating document through it:


There's that classic quote from Louie Perez: "If you were married between 1973 and 1980 in East L.A., we probably played your wedding."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 23:13 (three months ago) link

An example of a band that got better with each album.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2022 23:28 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

This is awesome---watch it while you can (although there was an ad for DVD version, maybe CD as well)(scroll down for bonus performances)

Dia de los Muertos
Special | 55m 36s

¡Dia de los Muertos! is a musical celebration of this much-anticipated and highly celebrated fiesta by people of Mexican heritage everywhere. Special guests include Latino rock greats, Los Lobos, the salsa-rap-reggae-funk of Ozomatli — both Los Angeles-based — and the all-female mariachi band Flor de Toloache from New York City.

Aired: 10/28/22

Expires: 11/25/22

Rating: TV-PG

Highlights incl. LL x O, with the former's guitars in unison w O's horns, later some skronky guitar solos & sax solos, among other things (Flor de Toloache were real good too, though didn't get to jam)

dow, Thursday, 17 November 2022 02:58 (two weeks ago) link

actually just bought a ticket today to see them down the street in a couple of weeks! been a while.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 November 2022 02:59 (two weeks ago) link

xpost Just watched that, that was rad. We're going to miss Los Lobos when they're gone.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 00:59 (two weeks ago) link

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