They've gone really MOR. There's none of Gran Turismo's swagger, First Band's weirdness, Emmerdale's excellence... just dull songs and totally lame production. It's kinda like a 'new-country' album, for all the total lack of character. hm.
I'm sad, because I thought Nina's A Camp album was really fantastic. Seems none of that wacky creativity carried over.
― derrick (derrick), Thursday, 20 February 2003 01:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 20 February 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― derrick (derrick), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― juice (juice), Friday, 21 February 2003 23:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
So it's really annoying for all these songs to be so spare and sparse, and about the only one with any kick, "For What It's Worth", which is ruined by Nina's a-a-ahs right at the end of it. There are some good songs on there, but "Communication" is extremely weak for an opening song, and the aforementioned FWIW is the worst single they've ever put out.
"You're The Storm" is excellent (one imagines if it weren't for all the war analogies this would be the single), and I like "Lead Me Into The Night" and "Feathers and Down" but I can't get excited. I imagined Grand Turismo as a platform to something even better - particularly songs like "Paralyzed" and "Higher" which were just outstanding - lush, gorgeous, Swedish precision ballads with swirling keyboards and choirs, but this new one really does sound like a bunch of songs that weren't good enough to fit on Grand Turismo or A Camp.
I hate everything lately.
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 22 February 2003 05:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm betting this is their first time out without Tore Johansson?
― derrick (derrick), Saturday, 22 February 2003 08:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 22 February 2003 23:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kris (aqueduct), Saturday, 22 February 2003 23:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
now that's an under rated song.
― piscesboy, Sunday, 23 February 2003 14:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
Sweden must have NPR too, then.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 February 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 23 February 2003 16:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
that's Never Recover from First Band On The Moon. fuckin' great album.
― derrick (derrick), Monday, 24 February 2003 03:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
The only great album out on the Minty Fresh label in the '90s was The Legendary Jim Ruiz Group's Oh Brother Where Art Thou?, as glistening as Life on the surface, but so much sadder and weirder...
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 24 February 2003 07:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― russ t, Monday, 24 February 2003 12:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
Let them have their "easy" record. It's beautiful.
― vanitykills, Monday, 14 April 2003 20:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
Rise & ShineSick & TiredCarnivalDaddy's CarLovefoolBeen ItYour New CuckooHappy Meal IINever RecoverStep On MeMy Favourite GameErase/RewindA Camp - I Can Buy YouA Camp - Frequent FlyerA Camp - Song for the LeftoversFor What It's WorthCommunicationYou're The StormAnd Then You Kissed MeLive And LearnFor the Boys
(79:49, chronological AFAIK according to initial song release)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, forgot to mention that's my official Cardigans 'portable' CD80 go!
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― pinder (pinder), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― wmlynch (wlynch), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― harshaw (jube), Friday, 19 August 2005 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link
"Lovefool" (obviously their signature tune)"My Favourite Game""I Can Buy You" (actually Nina side project 'A Camp')"For What It's Worth"
and yes, who's got something new???
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Also I'M GAY!
― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Friday, 19 August 2005 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:00 (eighteen years ago) link
y'know?
― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/pazznjop/03/voted_for.php?titleid=202937
― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Mark, you are my hero. It had such a difficult release here in the USA. Didn't come out til last year, but of course that means we got the DVD with the excellent videos - Nina looks so great as Loretta Lynn!
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― pinder (pinder), Friday, 19 August 2005 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 19 August 2005 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 19 August 2005 05:53 (eighteen years ago) link
The last album was tricky in that the sampler basically contained the four weakest songs on the album and the rest was amazing (tho the US version which has "For The Boys" is better, and the full length "Hold Me" was far too good to be a B-side), so I'm a little suspicious that I love "I Need Some Fine Wine" absolutely off the bat.
It's a great month for pop singles.
― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 19 August 2005 09:46 (eighteen years ago) link
What is interesting if you've got all their albums is how different they all are, there's a definite progression and they always try and do something different. I think they are a lot more interesting in this respect than most realise. I'm almost slightly disappointed in the new song because it feels quite similar to the stuff on the last album. Looking forward to the full album though. Certainly the cover if you find it doesn't indicate that it's musically like the last one, it's the cover of a pop record not an alt-country record.
― mms (mms), Friday, 19 August 2005 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Hey! Get Out Of My Way!Never RecoverStep On MeNasty Sunny BeamWarParalyzedHigherHold MeLead Me Into The NightFor The Boys
― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 19 August 2005 10:38 (eighteen years ago) link
01. Carnival02. Gordon's Gardenparty03. In The Afternoon04. Daddy's Car05. Black Letter Day06. Sick And Tired07. Cloudy Sky08. Tomorrow09. Rise And Shine10. The Boys Are Back In Town11. I Figured Out12. Beautiful One13. Fine14. Sunday Circus Song15. Celia Inside16. Over The Water17. Hey! Get Out Of My Way18. After All...19. Pooh Song20. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
― radulescu, Friday, 19 August 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 19 August 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 19 August 2005 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Friday, 19 August 2005 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm a huge persson fan, love the first two A-CAMP records as well, was not sold on her last one however
― Unchanging Window (Ross)
Yeah, her last solo album wasn't great apart from the title track. I love the first A-Camp album, I don't know the second one as well. I should give that and Gran Turismo more of a chance.
― kitchen person, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link
Can't stop listening to these guys at the moment. Long Gone Before Daylight will always be my favourite but Emmerdale and First Band On The Moon have been sounding so good recently.
In the last update about those reissues they said they're bringing out two B-side compilations too. Sounds good to me.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 27 August 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
time to break out the cardigans
― lost in sublimation (Ross), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link
Still waiting on those vinyl reissues!
― kitchen person, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link
i still rinse super extra gravity on the regular. losing a friend is such a ride of a song.
― meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link
lord that's the only record of theirs i haven't heard, what a mistake eh?
― lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:06 (five years ago) link
lgbd took a long time to grow on me, but once it did
Godspell, Don't Blame Your Daughter and I Need Some Fine Wine are three of the best songs they ever did.
― kitchen person, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:13 (five years ago) link
gonna dload asap
still stan hard for their early material, especially sabbath bloody sabbath
― lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:13 (five years ago) link
20th anniversary of Gran Turismo being marked with a tour this winter
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 08:29 (five years ago) link
.........holy shit
― lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 08:33 (five years ago) link
Lucky uk fans! Might have to fly out there tbh
― lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 08:35 (five years ago) link
Beaming with the announcement of the Manchester show. Beaming.
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link
oh neat-o, im in manchester. listening to gran turismo rn, only really played super extra gravity before all that much. it's fun, weird as ever -- i hope they play some more hits too though...
― meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 12:09 (five years ago) link
Says they’re playing it in its entirety. Hopefully they do an encore
― lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:12 (five years ago) link
if you want me, I'm your country
― meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link
Ya, hoping for loads of LGBD in the encore.
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link
Or alternatively a LGBD UK tour in 5 years. Not that I'm greedy or anything.
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link
yknow, i feel like the cardigans are such a middle ground pop band, and the songs aren't all that amazing, but theres something about them and the delivery that's compelling for me. i feel the same way about Metric, except emily haines' songs are leagues more lyrical - on their early work, at least... idk, i digress
― meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link
dunno, cardigan's write great songs
― mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 08:30 (five years ago) link
Fantastic pop songs.
Got me tickets no problem - well apart from the fact that "service charges" exceeding a fiver should be legislated against in the Geneva Conventions.
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:06 (five years ago) link
Oh damn. Enjoy the show
― mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:50 (five years ago) link
Thanks! I will no doubt be bumping this thread a few times prior to as I do the customary blasts through the discography.
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link
Keep bumping it
― mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:57 (five years ago) link
on my third/fourth playround of gran turismo and it delivers! explode is such a belter.
― meaulnes, Friday, 22 June 2018 12:12 (five years ago) link
damn right
― mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link
Going to the Glasgow show.
― michaellambert, Friday, 22 June 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link
goddamn i broke up with a long distance partner of four years this month and 'communication' is really everything lyrically...
― meaulnes, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link
Bless your soul. Know the feeling
― stoker (Ross), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link
Funny thing. So I was revisiting Long Gone Before Daylight last week and all and it was great, as good as I remember - but something was missing.
And then I found it in a folder on my harddrive - the 2004 KCRW Morning Becomes Eclectic session. I'm ashamed of forgetting about it because christ, I must have listened to this acoustic set a hundred times. Gorgeous arrangements.
1. Intro2. And Then You Kissed Me3. Erase/Rewind4. You're The Storm5. interview6. For What It's Worth7. Communication8. My Favourite Game9. Outro
Highly recommend having a listen on youtube.
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Friday, 29 June 2018 11:29 (five years ago) link
Good bside from that rec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv7yXB9iW5g
― raspberry swirl (Ross), Friday, 29 June 2018 11:30 (five years ago) link
can we talk about the gorgeous irony in 'higher', wherein the lyrics sing of ascension while the bass line descends in contrast
i can't wait to see this album played live. not bought a ticket yet, but it's £40 - and most the videos i've seen of them playing live to date have been a bit disappointing... anybody seen them care to chime in?
― meaulnes, Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link
I saw them on the Super Extra Gravity tour and it was incredible but then again I am a huge fan. They don't touch anything pre Gran Turismo now.
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 3 November 2018 10:31 (five years ago) link
Holy hell, why did no one tell me how fucking good they were in the mid-90s??!?!
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 04:36 (five years ago) link
spun 'first band on the moon last night' for the first time. what a strange little record. 'iron man' cover is funny. i didnt realise how much i love lounge pop. always did like that 'vertigogo' song from four rooms, though. so so excited for next month
― meaulnes, Thursday, 15 November 2018 12:53 (five years ago) link
i had no idea they were playing again but a friend of mine mentioned a london show. the website I saw for them hasn't been updated in years.
― akm, Thursday, 15 November 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link
yeah they dont really play at all anymore. such a surprise. maybe we'll have another LP at some point
― meaulnes, Thursday, 15 November 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link
"how I always memorize every single misery / and I seem to glorify everything inside of me!"
― meaulnes, Sunday, 18 November 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link
i've really rinsed gran turismo the past few months, and first band on the moon is so emotionally delicate in contrast to GT's cold, hard, clinical production. the drums are warm and buried, vibraphone and gentle tuned percussion everywhere... im just having so much fun exploring their catalogue.
― meaulnes, Sunday, 18 November 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link
Absolutey joyous seeing Nina bang a cowbell and command the stage last night. Her voice is just as good as always.
Plenty of Long Gone Before Daylight after the Gran Turismo run through so I’m a happy chappy .
Nitpicking the crowd was a bit flat at the Manchester Apollo, (imagine the Glasgow show will be a bit more fun).
Surprised the support was Jenny Wilson which was a v left field choice. Best light show I’ve seen in a while.
― avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:26 (five years ago) link
Jenny Wilson being the support act seems a difficult choice but I'm really excited to see her, she's the kind of act I've followed over the years with fondness knowing it's unrealistic I would ever get to see her so when I saw it revealed at the weekend I was gladly surprised.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 09:49 (five years ago) link
i danced my ass off tonight in manchester. first night of the tour. they played the LP in running order then a lot of LGBD. new guitar player. crowd was dead, nobody knew the words - though of course everyone went crazy for 'lovefool'.
i hadnt been to an arena show in years, and found it so weird. mostly people talking all the way through. you paid £40 to be here. what the fuck? so many iphones in the air. its so weird.
this bootleg i took is dedicated to the sneering, arrogant engineer (who wasn't mixing for cardigans) who told me i couldn't place my field recorder on the table nearby his console: "what? who are you? no. no recording"
https://youtu.be/jugSNcJaoEc
― meaulnes, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 13:26 (five years ago) link
tbh it was pretty daft of me to ask, i guess im just so used to it not being an issue at diy shows
― meaulnes, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link
The show was great - shes a real leader as well as a performer - and Gran Turismo sounded really good but it was the LGBD stuff that was incredible. I think its easy to overlook how great the two albums are that they've released this century
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link
The crowd were so uninspiring though - no dancing, no energy, no fun. Even "Lovefool" and "Carnival" were met with seeming indifference, it almost felt like everyone there was attending by accident
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:17 (five years ago) link
BUT I am quite drunk and I got to meet Jenny Wilson and thank her for her amazing, fearless album so it was definitely a victory of sorts
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link
yes! what a weird show. carnival was the last song? its the only one i didnt recognise. hope you enjoy the recording
― meaulnes, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:37 (five years ago) link
it was the LGBD stuff that was incredible
omg i believe it
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:38 (five years ago) link
oh no wait that was No Sleep...
― meaulnes, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:38 (five years ago) link
oh sorry yr talking about the show tonight i presume. my bad
― meaulnes, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:41 (five years ago) link