New Cardigans sampler

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So, I just found a 5 track sampler from the new Cardigans album - Communication, You're The Storm, For What It's Worth, Please Sister, And Then you Kissed Me.

They've gone really MOR. There's none of Gran Turismo's swagger, First Band's weirdness, Emmerdale's excellence... just dull songs and totally lame production. It's kinda like a 'new-country' album, for all the total lack of character. hm.

I'm sad, because I thought Nina's A Camp album was really fantastic. Seems none of that wacky creativity carried over.

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 20 February 2003 01:05 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Where did you get this? Was it a promo sampler or did you buy it? You probably haven't received a response to this thread because of the 'new-country' crack (I agree with you - I hate that shit).

Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 20 February 2003 15:48 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

downloaded it from a ftp, baby. It's a promo, so they're out there.

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:25 (sixteen years ago) Permalink


Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:59 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

What the fuck happened???? How does one go from creating the most gorgeous and pristine pop music of the 90s to this Sheryl Crow type schlock??
What's more disturbing is that (according to this the band apparently put an enormous amount of time and effort into this album and are quite proud of it.

juice (juice), Friday, 21 February 2003 23:58 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

It's pretty dull, alright. What I've always loved about the Cardigans is that Nina is always quite poised, but there's always a lot of things happening in the background. "Your New Cuckoo" would never have worked without that EXTRA cheesy round of lalalas in the chorus, "Paralyzed" would have been nothing without the whistling, and the break after the chorus is what totally makes "Carnival". One could name a dozen other small touches that change the good into the sublime.

So it's really annoying for all these songs to be so spare and sparse, and about the only one with any kick, "For What It's Worth", which is ruined by Nina's a-a-ahs right at the end of it. There are some good songs on there, but "Communication" is extremely weak for an opening song, and the aforementioned FWIW is the worst single they've ever put out.

"You're The Storm" is excellent (one imagines if it weren't for all the war analogies this would be the single), and I like "Lead Me Into The Night" and "Feathers and Down" but I can't get excited. I imagined Grand Turismo as a platform to something even better - particularly songs like "Paralyzed" and "Higher" which were just outstanding - lush, gorgeous, Swedish precision ballads with swirling keyboards and choirs, but this new one really does sound like a bunch of songs that weren't good enough to fit on Grand Turismo or A Camp.

I hate everything lately.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 22 February 2003 05:05 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Your New Cuckoo is so good, which is why this new album is so sad. ugh; I does sound, though, like a lot of work was put into it. It sounds ached over to the point of total exhaustion. Any energy was scrubbed out.

I'm betting this is their first time out without Tore Johansson?

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 22 February 2003 08:11 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

What's the name of the song that goes "Love me, love me, say that you love me" (or something)?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 22 February 2003 23:40 (sixteen years ago) Permalink


Kris (aqueduct), Saturday, 22 February 2003 23:54 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

tell u what's ace - that one that goes
'that's what i call waste of time/ waitin for a valentine...' etc etc

now that's an under rated song.

piscesboy, Sunday, 23 February 2003 14:25 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

this Sheryl Crow type schlock??

Sweden must have NPR too, then.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 February 2003 16:14 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Sundar, I'm glad you asked that because I had a neighbor who used to play it all the time and I never knew who it was. (I thought it might be the Spice Girls or something. I still don't know what the Spice Girls sound like.) Or maybe we don't mean the same song. I will check amazon or whatever.

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 23 February 2003 16:17 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

'that's what i call waste of time/ waitin for a valentine...'

that's Never Recover from First Band On The Moon. fuckin' great album.

derrick (derrick), Monday, 24 February 2003 03:41 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

There are sublime moments on the first two albums ("Lovefool," "Sick & Tire") but Nina's voice conveys nothing but pretty fraudulence. That seemed cool for a while, but I lost interest...

The only great album out on the Minty Fresh label in the '90s was The Legendary Jim Ruiz Group's Oh Brother Where Art Thou?, as glistening as Life on the surface, but so much sadder and weirder...

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 24 February 2003 07:29 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Cardigans - best looking band on the planet? Probably.

russ t, Monday, 24 February 2003 12:23 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
an amazing record, an amazing 3am record.

Let them have their "easy" record. It's beautiful.

vanitykills, Monday, 14 April 2003 20:16 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
No real Cardigans thread and I think a lot of people don't take them very seriously, but I love these songs. You really have to like splenda in your poison and also country to enjoy the second half. Includes A Camp songs. A new album is supposedly finished and I'll probably replace the last two cuts with any new classics:

Rise & Shine
Sick & Tired
Daddy's Car
Been It
Your New Cuckoo
Happy Meal II
Never Recover
Step On Me
My Favourite Game
A Camp - I Can Buy You
A Camp - Frequent Flyer
A Camp - Song for the Leftovers
For What It's Worth
You're The Storm
And Then You Kissed Me
Live And Learn
For the Boys

(79:49, chronological AFAIK according to initial song release)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I wish alt-country actually sounded like "I Can Buy You" or "For What It's Worth". Also, so many of the lyrics in these songs are very DARK.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the last cardigans album was ridiculously slept-on.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think they'd be much more popular if they were less attractive, had fewer pop hooks and were much more "indie".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Also, her voice is so syrupy sweet, but somehow not very twee (especially on later tracks).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Or maybe it's the actual lyrical content?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ah, the lovely sound of crickets...

Also, forgot to mention that's my official Cardigans 'portable' CD80 go!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i love the cardigans. thats why i named my concert promotion concern [whatever you want to call it] after them.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

new song "I Need Some Fine Wine And You, You Need To Be Nicer" is fantastic. regains that Gran Turismo swagger

pinder (pinder), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I always really liked what I heard of the Cardigans, but for some reason never bothered seeking their stuff. I think you've inspired me to get a-downloadin'.

wmlynch (wlynch), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I was gonna ask what that was, Spencer! I like Life a whole lot, but haven't really bothered with anything else in their catalog -- for no good reason, really.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ysi link for the new cardigans song to thread

harshaw (jube), Friday, 19 August 2005 01:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

xpost. I would say the key post Life singles are:

"Lovefool" (obviously their signature tune)
"My Favourite Game"
"I Can Buy You" (actually Nina side project 'A Camp')
"For What It's Worth"

and yes, who's got something new???

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 01:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I admit it...I like the Cardigans! I even sort of enjoyed that A Camp record.

Also I'M GAY!

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Friday, 19 August 2005 01:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(last part was a joke, obviously)

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Friday, 19 August 2005 01:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Adam, it's ok... it doesn't matter to us.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Sorry, it was the booze - I don't really like the Cardigans, but I did for a while in college, and sometimes when I'm drunk I do like The Cardigans but it doesn't really mean I like the Cardigans...


Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

xpost Adam, don't worry about it, your secret is safe with us and the many anonymous lurkers here on ILM. You can always say it's because of your infatuation with Ms. Persson.

Mark, you are my hero. It had such a difficult release here in the USA. Didn't come out til last year, but of course that means we got the DVD with the excellent videos - Nina looks so great as Loretta Lynn!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 03:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"I Need Some Fine Wine And You, You Need To Be Nicer"

pinder (pinder), Friday, 19 August 2005 04:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like the Cardigans too Adam

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 19 August 2005 05:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Life really is a wonderful *sounding* record.

jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 19 August 2005 05:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Every time a new Cardigans album comes out, I hate it. I hate it far more than the last one, which I also hated when it comes out. And then, a month later I love it. And in fact, their albums get better and better, even if it seems that they don't.

The last album was tricky in that the sampler basically contained the four weakest songs on the album and the rest was amazing (tho the US version which has "For The Boys" is better, and the full length "Hold Me" was far too good to be a B-side), so I'm a little suspicious that I love "I Need Some Fine Wine" absolutely off the bat.

It's a great month for pop singles.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 19 August 2005 09:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

A greatly underestimated band indeed and I do love them though i seem to forget about them every so aften until I hear one of their tracks and I realise how good they are again.

What is interesting if you've got all their albums is how different they all are, there's a definite progression and they always try and do something different. I think they are a lot more interesting in this respect than most realise. I'm almost slightly disappointed in the new song because it feels quite similar to the stuff on the last album. Looking forward to the full album though. Certainly the cover if you find it doesn't indicate that it's musically like the last one, it's the cover of a pop record not an alt-country record.

mms (mms), Friday, 19 August 2005 10:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

In honour, here's a Cardigans non-single POX, because they really are spectacularly underrated:

Hey! Get Out Of My Way!
Never Recover
Step On Me
Nasty Sunny Beam
Hold Me
Lead Me Into The Night
For The Boys

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 19 August 2005 10:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Since the terrific "Life" was issued in different versions around the world and since it has a couple of "Emmerdale" tracks on it plus they had some equally great b-sides at the time i decided to merge the best of it into a "Life - Special Edition" some years back, covering solely their 1994-95 era, here's how it ran down:

01. Carnival
02. Gordon's Gardenparty
03. In The Afternoon
04. Daddy's Car
05. Black Letter Day
06. Sick And Tired
07. Cloudy Sky
08. Tomorrow
09. Rise And Shine
10. The Boys Are Back In Town
11. I Figured Out
12. Beautiful One
13. Fine
14. Sunday Circus Song
15. Celia Inside
16. Over The Water
17. Hey! Get Out Of My Way
18. After All...
19. Pooh Song
20. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath

radulescu, Friday, 19 August 2005 11:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Teddybears STHLM's 'Yours To Keep' is the best Cardigans song evah.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 19 August 2005 11:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i have to agree, this MOR album sucks terribly. how could they take such an awful turn? it's like a complete reversal of everything that was good about them.

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 19 August 2005 11:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I quite like them, and their drummer is fantastic.

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 19 August 2005 13:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I LOVE their supposedly "MOR" stuff. The lyrics on the more recent songs are DEVASTATING. This is the neu countrypolitan.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Nice comp up there, Spencer. New track is the goodies, eh? Country-ish or not -- WHATEVER! -- 'Long Gone' is great bc Nina's voice got a little smoke and whiskey in there.

bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Seriously, the drums on 'Carnival' -

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm a huge persson fan, love the first two A-CAMP records as well, was not sold on her last one however

― Unchanging Window (Ross)

Yeah, her last solo album wasn't great apart from the title track. I love the first A-Camp album, I don't know the second one as well. I should give that and Gran Turismo more of a chance.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 01:04 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Can't stop listening to these guys at the moment. Long Gone Before Daylight will always be my favourite but Emmerdale and First Band On The Moon have been sounding so good recently.

In the last update about those reissues they said they're bringing out two B-side compilations too. Sounds good to me.

kitchen person, Sunday, 27 August 2017 17:51 (one year ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

time to break out the cardigans

lost in sublimation (Ross), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Still waiting on those vinyl reissues!

kitchen person, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

i still rinse super extra gravity on the regular. losing a friend is such a ride of a song.

meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:02 (eleven months ago) Permalink

lord that's the only record of theirs i haven't heard, what a mistake eh?

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:06 (eleven months ago) Permalink

lgbd took a long time to grow on me, but once it did

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:06 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Godspell, Don't Blame Your Daughter and I Need Some Fine Wine are three of the best songs they ever did.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink

gonna dload asap

still stan hard for their early material, especially sabbath bloody sabbath

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink

20th anniversary of Gran Turismo being marked with a tour this winter

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 08:29 (eleven months ago) Permalink

.........holy shit

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 08:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Lucky uk fans! Might have to fly out there tbh

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 08:35 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Beaming with the announcement of the Manchester show. Beaming.

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 12:03 (eleven months ago) Permalink

oh neat-o, im in manchester. listening to gran turismo rn, only really played super extra gravity before all that much. it's fun, weird as ever -- i hope they play some more hits too though...

meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 12:09 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Says they’re playing it in its entirety.
Hopefully they do an encore

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:12 (eleven months ago) Permalink

if you want me, I'm your country

meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Ya, hoping for loads of LGBD in the encore.

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Or alternatively a LGBD UK tour in 5 years. Not that I'm greedy or anything.

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:34 (eleven months ago) Permalink

yknow, i feel like the cardigans are such a middle ground pop band, and the songs aren't all that amazing, but theres something about them and the delivery that's compelling for me. i feel the same way about Metric, except emily haines' songs are leagues more lyrical - on their early work, at least... idk, i digress

meaulnes, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 22:58 (eleven months ago) Permalink

dunno, cardigan's write great songs

mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 08:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Fantastic pop songs.

Got me tickets no problem - well apart from the fact that "service charges" exceeding a fiver should be legislated against in the Geneva Conventions.

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:06 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Oh damn. Enjoy the show

mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Thanks! I will no doubt be bumping this thread a few times prior to as I do the customary blasts through the discography.

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:55 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Keep bumping it

mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

on my third/fourth playround of gran turismo and it delivers! explode is such a belter.

meaulnes, Friday, 22 June 2018 12:12 (eleven months ago) Permalink

damn right

mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 12:52 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Going to the Glasgow show.

michaellambert, Friday, 22 June 2018 22:55 (eleven months ago) Permalink

goddamn i broke up with a long distance partner of four years this month and 'communication' is really everything lyrically...

meaulnes, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Bless your soul. Know the feeling

stoker (Ross), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:29 (ten months ago) Permalink

Funny thing. So I was revisiting Long Gone Before Daylight last week and all and it was great, as good as I remember - but something was missing.

And then I found it in a folder on my harddrive - the 2004 KCRW Morning Becomes Eclectic session. I'm ashamed of forgetting about it because christ, I must have listened to this acoustic set a hundred times. Gorgeous arrangements.

1. Intro
2. And Then You Kissed Me
3. Erase/Rewind
4. You're The Storm
5. interview
6. For What It's Worth
7. Communication
8. My Favourite Game
9. Outro

Highly recommend having a listen on youtube.

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Friday, 29 June 2018 11:29 (ten months ago) Permalink

Good bside from that rec

raspberry swirl (Ross), Friday, 29 June 2018 11:30 (ten months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

can we talk about the gorgeous irony in 'higher', wherein the lyrics sing of ascension while the bass line descends in contrast

i can't wait to see this album played live. not bought a ticket yet, but it's £40 - and most the videos i've seen of them playing live to date have been a bit disappointing... anybody seen them care to chime in?

meaulnes, Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:41 (six months ago) Permalink

I saw them on the Super Extra Gravity tour and it was incredible but then again I am a huge fan. They don't touch anything pre Gran Turismo now.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 3 November 2018 10:31 (six months ago) Permalink

Holy hell, why did no one tell me how fucking good they were in the mid-90s??!?!

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 04:36 (six months ago) Permalink

spun 'first band on the moon last night' for the first time. what a strange little record. 'iron man' cover is funny. i didnt realise how much i love lounge pop. always did like that 'vertigogo' song from four rooms, though. so so excited for next month

meaulnes, Thursday, 15 November 2018 12:53 (six months ago) Permalink

i had no idea they were playing again but a friend of mine mentioned a london show. the website I saw for them hasn't been updated in years.

akm, Thursday, 15 November 2018 13:49 (six months ago) Permalink

yeah they dont really play at all anymore. such a surprise. maybe we'll have another LP at some point

meaulnes, Thursday, 15 November 2018 14:18 (six months ago) Permalink

"how I always memorize every single misery / and I seem to glorify everything inside of me!"

meaulnes, Sunday, 18 November 2018 20:03 (six months ago) Permalink

i've really rinsed gran turismo the past few months, and first band on the moon is so emotionally delicate in contrast to GT's cold, hard, clinical production. the drums are warm and buried, vibraphone and gentle tuned percussion everywhere... im just having so much fun exploring their catalogue.

meaulnes, Sunday, 18 November 2018 20:11 (six months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Absolutey joyous seeing Nina bang a cowbell and command the stage last night. Her voice is just as good as always.

Plenty of Long Gone Before Daylight after the Gran Turismo run through so I’m a happy chappy .

Nitpicking the crowd was a bit flat at the Manchester Apollo, (imagine the Glasgow show will be a bit more fun).

Surprised the support was Jenny Wilson which was a v left field choice. Best light show I’ve seen in a while.

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:26 (five months ago) Permalink

Jenny Wilson being the support act seems a difficult choice but I'm really excited to see her, she's the kind of act I've followed over the years with fondness knowing it's unrealistic I would ever get to see her so when I saw it revealed at the weekend I was gladly surprised.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 09:49 (five months ago) Permalink

i danced my ass off tonight in manchester. first night of the tour. they played the LP in running order then a lot of LGBD. new guitar player. crowd was dead, nobody knew the words - though of course everyone went crazy for 'lovefool'.

i hadnt been to an arena show in years, and found it so weird. mostly people talking all the way through. you paid £40 to be here. what the fuck? so many iphones in the air. its so weird.

this bootleg i took is dedicated to the sneering, arrogant engineer (who wasn't mixing for cardigans) who told me i couldn't place my field recorder on the table nearby his console: "what? who are you? no. no recording"

meaulnes, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 13:26 (five months ago) Permalink

tbh it was pretty daft of me to ask, i guess im just so used to it not being an issue at diy shows

meaulnes, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 13:34 (five months ago) Permalink

The show was great - shes a real leader as well as a performer - and Gran Turismo sounded really good but it was the LGBD stuff that was incredible. I think its easy to overlook how great the two albums are that they've released this century

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:15 (five months ago) Permalink

The crowd were so uninspiring though - no dancing, no energy, no fun. Even "Lovefool" and "Carnival" were met with seeming indifference, it almost felt like everyone there was attending by accident

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:17 (five months ago) Permalink

BUT I am quite drunk and I got to meet Jenny Wilson and thank her for her amazing, fearless album so it was definitely a victory of sorts

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:18 (five months ago) Permalink

yes! what a weird show. carnival was the last song? its the only one i didnt recognise. hope you enjoy the recording

meaulnes, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:37 (five months ago) Permalink

it was the LGBD stuff that was incredible

omg i believe it

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:38 (five months ago) Permalink

oh no wait that was No Sleep...

meaulnes, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:38 (five months ago) Permalink

oh sorry yr talking about the show tonight i presume. my bad

meaulnes, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:41 (five months ago) Permalink

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