Damon and Naomi... eh?

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So, I picked up Damon and Naomi's 'More Sad Hits' today, because it was only $5. Has anyone else caught the third song, Information Age as a total ripoff of the Replacements classic Here Comes a Regular?

What's the deal? And what's the deal with D and N. Are they worthwhile?

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 15 February 2003 08:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I liked the record they made with Ghost.....although I seem to always drift off to sleep when I play it (is that by design?). "Great Wall of China" is nice.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 February 2003 08:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The cover photos of that album are gorgeous; I almost bought the vinyl just to put on my wall.

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 15 February 2003 08:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

which? SAD HITS or the one with Ghost?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 February 2003 08:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The cover to _More Sad Hits_ oughta be gorgeous. It was shot by Man Ray.

Damon and Naomi have always been something of an anomaly to me. I really love the Galaxie 500 albums, but the stuff they've done following them hasn't really impressed me (0ther than the couple times i've seen 'em live, but that's a situational thing and not likely to be repeated.)

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 15 February 2003 15:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

What always bugged me about D&N is that they put their best song as the first song on their first album, so it was downhill from there all the way. Shame, 'cos that one song ("ETA") is superb. I had a tape of it (and "A morning oddysey" by the Sea Urchinds) repeating over my walkman the last time I was flying, watching Kent from the air to that music was magical.

Rob M (Rob M), Saturday, 15 February 2003 16:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Usually I find one or two songs worthwhile on each of their releases, but I generally find their collaborations (the With Ghost album, the live album, and all the Magic Hour stuff) resonate much more with me than the pastoral folk they wander around in.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Sunday, 16 February 2003 07:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Especially the Magic Hour stuff.

paul cox (paul cox), Sunday, 16 February 2003 07:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

With Ghost is brilliant. Works on girls, too.

Tho not as well as "Smooth Operator" by Big Daddy Kane.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 16 February 2003 07:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

'With Ghost' has the beautiful cover.

I saw them live at Bumbershoot a couple years back, I think. There were two or three songs that blew me away.

I think I like 'MSH' enough to pick up another of theirs, but only on the cheap.

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 16 February 2003 10:22 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

Damon And Naomi cover the Everly Brothers' "I Wonder If" amidst a sea of empty wine bottles in some Paris apartment at 3am. Well worth checking out.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It was fun seeing them bring out Tom Rapp at Terrastock (#2, maybe? providence...) but otherwise I hate everything they have done since More Sad Hits. They sucked that night but Tom Rapp was amazing.

Saxby D. Elder, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

more sad hits is really really good. everything else, yeah...

scott seward, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Their records are worth picking up because you can count on at least half the songs being good. The other half are the "eh." I'm not sure what the deal is, but apart from the first one, I've never thought they've ever released a record that was great all the way through. On the other hand, their collaborations are usually really great. The one with Ghost is good and the Magic Hour records are incredble.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 25 May 2007 12:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

"More Sad Hits" reissue/remaster (with vinyl too) looks to be coming out in a day or so. It is such a great album, and the sound of my old CD is slightly dinky, so I may actually pony up for this. I don't think there are any bonus tracks, which seems like the right thing to do.

dlp9001, Monday, 7 July 2008 10:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

two years pass...


Out May 17, 2011 on 20/20/20 Records.

Track listing:

1. Walking Backwards
2. How Do I Say Goodbye
3. Shadow Boxing
4. Ophelia
5. Nettles and Ivy
6. What She Brings
7. Embers
8. And You Are There
9. Helsinki

Editorial Reviews
2011 album from the Indie duo, best known for their work as 2/3rds of Galaxie 500. False Beats And True Hearts is their first album of new recordings in four years. A record of lush possibility and depth, False Beats And True Hearts fuses the skill of music veterans with the fervor of artists continuing to create at the top of their craft. With the reissue of the first Damon & Naomi record, a retrospective of their mid-career highlights, and, perhaps most notably, re-releases of all three seminal Galaxie 500 albums, there's been a lot of looking back. It's therefore appropriate that the first song off the album is "Walking Backwards," an ode to the joy of nostalgia and warmth of reflection.

Bee OK, Friday, 20 May 2011 06:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hope the music is better than the cover artwork.

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 20 May 2011 07:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

and the album title...

everything, Friday, 20 May 2011 08:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

hmm, i missed the last one, but Earth Is Blue was pretty great. cover art for this one is a little iffy. kurihara's on it, right? would pretty much listen to anything with him playing.

tylerw, Friday, 20 May 2011 15:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

yup, cover art's horrible. no doubt the album's worth a listen. agree w/ kurihara props, he really can do no wrong.

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 20 May 2011 15:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

saw on their facebook that kurihara was supposed to tour w/ them, but his passport had been stolen and he was stranded in the UK or something.

tylerw, Friday, 20 May 2011 15:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Damon & Naomi opening for Boris circa 2007(?) with Kurihara playing w/ both bands still one of my favorite shows ever ever ever

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 20 May 2011 15:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha, that's a versatile guitarist.
this sounds pretty good

tylerw, Friday, 20 May 2011 15:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

this is great.

Kurihara is one of my favorite guitarists ever. possibly my favorite living guitarist

underrated earl sweatshirt fans i have boned (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 May 2011 15:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, the last time ghost toured the US, he was just so amazing, every note so perfect. rest of the band was good, but you were just waiting for him to take flight.

tylerw, Friday, 20 May 2011 15:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Kurihara is one of my favorite guitarists ever. possibly my favorite living guitarist

YES. The Rainbow record with Boris is absolutely stunning. "You Laughed Like A Watermark" in particular.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 May 2011 15:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

some kurihara megafan made me a mix of a bunch of his stuff a couple years ago, all kinds of recordings (mostly pre-Ghost!)...i take it y'all might be interested? i can upload it somewhere.

tylerw, Friday, 20 May 2011 15:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

I would be very much interested, esp if it is a lot of pre-Ghost stuff!

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 May 2011 15:25 (seven years ago) Permalink


...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 20 May 2011 15:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

You can probably find some of the White Heaven & The Stars releases around. The Onna stuff got reissued not so long ago too.

Still wish he'd 'step forward' a bit in the D&N stuff (although I know that's not his way) - have little interest in them, but everything he does is gold.

Wandering Boy Poet, Friday, 20 May 2011 15:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah this has stuff from you ishihara, cosmic invention, marble sheep, onna, ghost, white heaven, ha-za-ma and stars.

tylerw, Friday, 20 May 2011 15:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

oooh yes plz

I had a really crappy tape of the Cosmic Invention record which I loved and has since died

underrated earl sweatshirt fans i have boned (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 May 2011 16:01 (seven years ago) Permalink


metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 17:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh sorry, couldn't do it this weekend. sometime this week!

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like pfork's 5-10-15-20 feature in general, but this new one w/ damon & naomi is really phenomenal—insights on damon's "age 0" record (his mother was an atlantic recording artist?!), velvets, new order, robert wyatt, leonard cohen, fairport convention etc. etc., they are super down to earth folks (as usual)


i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 26 May 2011 01:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

"So when Damon and [Galaxie 500 drummer] Dean (Wareham) started to form another band"...

cw, Friday, 27 May 2011 18:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

After a few listens, I'm liking "Shadow Boxing" from this, and a few others. The ones I like best remind me of a less jokey Kramer/Bongwater, which has probably always been the case. I feel like they could keep on cranking out similar albums pretty indefinitely, for better or for worse. They could really use a producer who kicked their asses a bit...

dlp9001, Friday, 27 May 2011 19:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

has anyone heard the kramer produced "bootleg" of the wonderful world of damon and naomi? the one with the sonny and cher sleeve scribbled out? is this a thing that should be sought out? for ardent fans of more sad hits i mean.

cw, Thursday, 31 October 2013 21:27 (four years ago) Permalink

It's on Spotify now. I didn't find it particularly essential, and in a surprising number of cases preferred the non-Kramer versions. I mean, it's fine and interesting but not something to go crazy over.

dlp9001, Thursday, 31 October 2013 23:06 (four years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

I just heard that Damon Krukowski had an essay on Scott Walker published, and I realize I was present the moment he discovered SW. I was shopping at Twisted Village (ca. 2000) when Wayne (?) was behind the counter and Damon was hanging out. I brought Shirley Collin, Dusty Springfield, and Scott Walker CDs among others up to the counter (the latter was "Pola X" sdtk) and Damon started talking to me about Shirley Collins. then he asks, "what's the deal with scott walker?" and I explained. I pointed to the Dusty CD and noted that he had the same arranger as Dusty in the early days (Wally Stott, correct?). anyway this is interesting to nobody and no doubt Damon would have discovered Scott Walker eventually but I feel that this is my very minor contribution to music culture and wanted to get it on the record.

anyway, they put out reissues of their albums a year or two (?) back and they sounded really poorly mastered.

that is all.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 03:07 (four years ago) Permalink

So you deserve the blame or the credit...

Titled No Regrets: Writings on Scott Walker, the collection features meditations on Walker's life and work, ranging from his 1960s records with the Walker Brothers to his later, more abstract solo material. It was edited by Wire editor Rob Young.
Contributors to the anthology include David Toop, Damon Krukowski of Galaxie 500/Damon & Naomi, Ian Penman, Stephen Kijak (director of Scott Walker: 30 Century Man), and more.

From a Pitchfork news item from 2 years ago.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 17:34 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, somehow it just came across the radar yesterday. time moves slowly up here in the mountains.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:01 (four years ago) Permalink

argh, twisted village. that was a good record store. when I lived in boston, i just wanted to go there all the time (tho i had very little $$$ to spend).

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:08 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, it was a GREAT record store. i might have cried a tear when I heard they were closing up shop.

I had more money when I was living in Boston than I have had since, I used to get friday afternoons off during the summer. i would take the train to Harvard Sq, get a sandwich at that portuguese cafe (RIP), go shopping at the Other Music that had recently opened (RIP), Twisted Village (RIP), and a few others (mostly RIP; all along buying maybe a dozen LPs/CDS), then maybe meet a friend for a movie at the Brattle (fortunately not RIP).

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:18 (four years ago) Permalink

twisted village got me into Michael Hurley, the Incredible String Band, all kinds of contemporary composition and free jazz, lord knows what else.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:19 (four years ago) Permalink

the CDs I bought there still kind of radiate with good memories for me. that Pola X CD, a recording of Feldman's The Viola in My Life, Faust "Wumme Years" box, all sorts of other goodies.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:20 (four years ago) Permalink

(sheds tear again)

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:21 (four years ago) Permalink

ha forgot about that other music in harvard sq. what was the deal with that, it only lasted like a year?
seems like we may have been living parallel lives circa 2001-2.

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:22 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah. I think maybe it lasted two years? I visited once a little while after I moved and it was still there, but next time it was gone. it was nice, though, less crowded than the NY Other Music obviously.

similarly, Reckless Records briefly (two years?) opened a branch in Evanston when I was working there. NOBODY came into that store (slight exaggeration)--I think this was precisely around the time that college students started filesharing, bad timing. but that just made it better for pickin--I got all kinds of crazy stuff that had just been sitting there forever, some clerk even gave me a big discount on a dagmar krause record b/c he was happy that someone bought it.

nabisco worked there for a while IIRC. but I didn't properly "meet" him until a few years later.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:26 (four years ago) Permalink

those friday afternoons were the best. I must have been, what, 23? I went to a lot of shows back then, too. bet if I played a Damon and Naomi record I'd become even more nostalgic...

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:27 (four years ago) Permalink

maybe we should take this offthread.

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 20:28 (four years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

new one sounds great!

tylerw, Thursday, 12 February 2015 17:42 (three years ago) Permalink

didn't even know there was one

is Kurihara on it?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 February 2015 17:43 (three years ago) Permalink

he's not on it -- sounds like it's just the two of them here.

tylerw, Thursday, 12 February 2015 17:46 (three years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...


didn't know magic hour at all and grabbed magic moments off bandcamp after enjoying a bunch of the songs.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:37 (two years ago) Permalink

those magic hours albums hold up!

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:44 (two years ago) Permalink

Magic Hour was so spectacular live. I remember seeing them live at the Empty Bottle where Damon and Naomi sort of lulled you into leaning forward only to have Wayne and Kate slowly build up into one of Wayne's solos that pushed you back on your heels. I remember turning to my friend totally wide-eyed as one solo was kicking off only to have him smile back and yell "here it comes!"

john. a resident of chicago., Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:48 (two years ago) Permalink

ha, i found them off your feed, it's been really fun listening! the passing words peel track on youtube right after my link is great too! xpost

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:49 (two years ago) Permalink

(xpost) ha...hey tyler, we had a similar exchange on twitter

john. a resident of chicago., Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:49 (two years ago) Permalink

wait, who are you on twitter? sorry, i have trouble keeping track between there and ILM...
was having my mind melted by this one yesterday: https://magic-hour.bandcamp.com/track/something-else-2

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:51 (two years ago) Permalink

here's mp3s of their peel sesh btw: www.fullofwishes.co.uk/2013/10/04/audio-magic-hour-peel-session/

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:52 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah, that's the one that sold me on buying that collection. my longmont musician pal was big upping cover of "permanent green light" and i was saying, no, check something else #2.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:56 (two years ago) Permalink

aw, awesome, thanks for peel!

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:57 (two years ago) Permalink

(xpost) i'm jseraf on twitter. don't post often on either. but this band'll send me clamoring.

john. a resident of chicago., Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:00 (two years ago) Permalink

ah ok, good to know! and Hunt3r who's your longmont musician pal?

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:02 (two years ago) Permalink

bought the collection, shit was breaking my brain on the subway today.

adam, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:04 (two years ago) Permalink

was actually hipped to it by damon tweeting a link to tyler's blog linking to the bandcamp, internet

adam, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:05 (two years ago) Permalink


tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:07 (two years ago) Permalink

man, that's...connections!

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:11 (two years ago) Permalink

hey i pm'ed you through ilx but i don't know if that works ? his name is dave m3y3r, he is not acquainted with you afaik. he was keys for a denver psych band til a couple of weeks ago.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:41 (two years ago) Permalink

oh! yeah i think my ilx mail is hooked up to an email account that i don't really check anymore. hit me up at tywilc AT gmail ... i need a denver psych keys guy!

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:44 (two years ago) Permalink

Something else #2 making me think about ~cymbals~ which I don't always want to hear, but man, that whole song.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 17:18 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

something else #2 has taken over my conscience, it is a drive across the intermountain west in spectacular cloudy conditions, that high high bass, those cymbals, and the guitars wailing, until the keys rope them down, and vocals return and it concludes. Damn I love it.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Monday, 29 February 2016 15:56 (two years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Listened to https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=0U-6Nmj-2ZQ so many times today it still sounds perfect,
esp for the season.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 02:48 (one year ago) Permalink

Playback Singers will always be my favorite of theirs, came out when I had mostly given up on indie rock and was nervous about the turn of the century for some reason. Played this CD nonstop for a few months.

JacobSanders, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 03:26 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah that one is great (and definitely takes me back to circa 1998 or thereabouts).
Damon has a book coming out next year that looks good: https://www.amazon.com/New-Analog-Listening-Reconnecting-Digital/dp/1620971976

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 14:12 (one year ago) Permalink

Somewhat afraid to read this. Dean's book put to rest any doubts that he's anything but a complete asshole. I really don't want to lose D&N.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 20:42 (one year ago) Permalink

ha well, this isn't a memoir (and I didn't really come away from Wareham's book hating him, though obviously there was plenty of asshole-ish behavior).

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 20:45 (one year ago) Permalink

huh for some reason I never got Playback Singers, will check out

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 21:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Fall is def prime Damon & Naomi time

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 21:11 (one year ago) Permalink

hey tyler you get into denver still? sent you dm, but in case i got spammed...

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Thursday, 3 November 2016 20:04 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

just saw here - https://www.newyorker.com/culture/2017-in-review/my-best-podcasts-of-2017 - that damon has a podcast, based on that book:

“Ways of Hearing”
The way we listen has been revolutionized by digital technology, which in turn has transformed our world, including podcasts. “Ways of Hearing,” hosted by Damon Krukowski and based on his excellent book “The New Analog,” is about listening. (It’s the first of a series of podcasts in the Radiotopia show “Showcase.”) Krukowski makes complex ideas delightfully accessible, and in audio form he’s able to include wonderful sounds: street noise, song bits, chitchat at a record shop. Krukowski, the drummer of the great band Galaxie 500, illustrates points in Episode 1 with gorgeous strains of “Tugboat.” Krukowski is a fantastic observer; I often think of the ideas he articulates in “Ways of Hearing,” and I feel like I perceive the world a little more acutely because of listening to it.

just sayin, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 04:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

yeah, it's a great listen (and a good companion to the book)

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

that looks awesome! will def check it out, guy is really good at both thinking and communicating

niels, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

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