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Phish: Classic Or Dud?
And why do they get compared to The Spin Doctors???

Paul Rees, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Because there's this miasma of bands from 1992/93 that all of us want to collectively write out of history any chance possible.

"Aye, 'twere all Nirvana back then."

"But the Spin Doctors and Phish and Rusted Root and Soul Asylum and..."

"Shut up, SHUT UP!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

the drummer is classic for wearing a dress otherwise they never held my attention

chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

did he wear a dress B4 Cobain?

Oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Dud.

hstencil, Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

too many absolutely excruciating encounters with their "music" in college for me to ever forgive their existence.

And I hate it when bands/fans try to shore up credibility by doing obvious covers of artists many times cooler and more interesting than them. So sad.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Not just covering a song, but an entire album.

brg30 (brg30), Thursday, 13 February 2003 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link

that's because whenever they get an idea to do something, they figure it'll be even better if they OVERdo it. Hence: their entire career.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 13 February 2003 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd rather listen to jazz

William R Henderson (Cabin Essence), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

PHISH is just plain awesome. Again, like the Dave Matthews Band, these guys can PLAY. Trey Anastasio is a sweet guitarist, and with the likes of Paige on piano, Mike on bass, and Jon on drums, I think they can out-jam any rock band.
A definite CLASSIC, they've been around for almost 20 years, and they're not stopping any time soon, especially with an army of devoted fans to answer to.

naga_pampa (naga_pampa), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Can out-jam any rock band: Something to be proud of?

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 13 February 2003 03:09 (nineteen years ago) link

uuuuuuuhhhhh..... yes

naga_pampa (naga_pampa), Thursday, 13 February 2003 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I really, really love their first album; quite like the second; don't mind the third; was quite disappointed by the fourth; and have barely bothered to listen to anything they've come out with since. They were wonderful up until about 1992, and then they lost the thread and became guilty of most everything they're habitually accused of.

Still, that first album alone has earned them a permanent place in my heart; it may well be my favorite album of the 1980s, or damn near.

Phil (phil), Thursday, 13 February 2003 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay. I would have done a Phish thread, but they don't seem to interest the ILxor populace. They are formely my favorite band (I don't really have one these days and they don't interest me as much since I broadened my tastes), and I've seen a number of their concerts that's in the double-digits and begins with a 2.

I like some of their albums lots. The first four and the live ones are all good, at least in part, the others not so much. The fourth, Hoist, is unfairly maligned by fans, and the third, Rift, is unfairly maligned by almost everyone - among other things, the production is fantastic. But live, of course, is where it's at. Yes, they overdo it, but it's a measure of their generosity and willing to take chances - there's bad there, but the good can be really good. Their tradition of putting on "musical costumes" at Halloween concerts (playing an entire album by another artist) is not a bid for credibility but a chance to try something new and give a present to their fans (who initially chose the album). It's one of their many gimmicks, but it also identifies who they really are at heart - your friend's not-half-bad cover band with the monster guitar player who play parties on halloween and new year's eve, etc. Except they have tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of friends. Especially good concerts can be found from the months of August 1993 (8/14 especially), October-November 1994 (especially 11/16), and December 1995 (especially New Years). The next year or two had some interesting stuff, but they started to get a bit stale.

I'm not awake or thoughtful enough to really get into what's good about them (yes, I'll admit some bad), but some of it includes: big rawk hooks with a sense of humor about themselves, compositional structure without classical pretentions (well, impressionist ones, maybe), bliss with funk (well, boogie, at least). Also, the arena phenomenon and the lights (if you've never seen these, you're verily missing something; I say this as someone who has never had much interest in seeing a Pink Floyd show) and the dancing and the gimmicks.

Of course jazz is better. I don't listen to Phish for jazz (but maybe for 'fusion' - they sure beat Santana). The Dave Matthews Band may be able to "play" (not so sure about that), but it usually chooses not to demonstrate it. Trey can play. Mike and Fish too. Page (nb - no "i") less so, but he's functional. Also, ask me about my unashamed like of the Spin Doctors. Did I mention I'm a lawyer?

Yes, the drummer wore a dress before Cobain.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 13 February 2003 06:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Falling James wore a dress before the Phish guy.

Namechecking this Onion story before someone else does.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Thursday, 13 February 2003 07:18 (nineteen years ago) link

That Onion story = classic. That Phish fans love it is instructive.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 13 February 2003 07:27 (nineteen years ago) link

"I think Falling James wore a dress before the Phish guy."

I think Antennae Jimmy Semens wore a dress before either of them

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 13 February 2003 09:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I actually saw them once, must've been early '95. They were pretty good; they reminded me of some sort of Mahavishnu/They Might Be Giants fusion. The guitar player was the most annoying member of the band; his tone was totally weeny and he seemed to keep playing the same thing over and over. Dave Matthews Band opened for them. They were better!

Kris (aqueduct), Thursday, 13 February 2003 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

The fourth, Hoist, is unfairly maligned by fans, and the third, Rift, is unfairly maligned by almost everyone

Wait, you're counting differently than I am:

(1) Junta (2) Lawn Boy (3) A Picture of Nectar (4) Rift (5) Hoist

-- was what I thought the order was?

The production on Rift is exactly what I don't like about it -- it slicks everything up to a glossy sheen I find uncompelling. Also the compositions are mostly forgettable, with a couple exceptions, and the lyrics have become more and more obnoxious. Junta is my favorite in part because the lyrics are so often so basic -- "Boy man god shit", "Let's go out to dinner and see a movie", et al. Phish's lyrics are problematic at best, so when they keep them simple and out of the way, I find they generally sit better with me.

Phil (phil), Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude, wheres my hackeysack?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Damm, Chris beat me to the Onion article, but I got a CNN article.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Any of you ever listened to STORY OF A GHOST? That's my favorite album of theirs.

naga_pampa (naga_pampa), Friday, 14 February 2003 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

(putting in shame hat)

I hate to say it, but, well...I really like Phish. Not everything they've done, but a good 80 - 90% is in my "I like" mental-file.

In concert, that's where they shine. I've seen them and the Dead, and I don't think the comparison is fair at all...when Phish "jams", it always feels like it's moving towards something, their jams have momentum, whereas The Dead, jamming, just seemed to be this unbound floatilla just lazing around in a stream of tonal and riffular mediocrity.

The only thing I really dislike about Phish is most of their lyrics; I mean, sure there's an interesting novelness about getting tens of thousands of people singing "David Bowie!" over and over, but compared to some of their lyrics that actually seem to be worth something (such as in "Theme From the Bottom" or "Maze"), it get's SO FRIGGIN ANNOYING.

If you want to listen to a good Phish album, I highly recommend Rift and Billy Breathes above all others; there's something very focused and (for lack of a better word) "deep" about these albums than any of their others.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

(okay that should have read..."putting ON shame hat")

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

and they're not stopping any time soon

That's what I was afraid of.

Sean (Sean), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

this thread is useful only because it outs several ILMers as Phish Phans (which means I will never take them seriously again)

Dave M. (rotten03), Saturday, 15 February 2003 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

The fourth, Hoist, is unfairly maligned by fans, and the third, Rift, is unfairly maligned by almost everyone

Wait, you're counting differently than I am:

(1) Junta (2) Lawn Boy (3) A Picture of Nectar (4) Rift (5) Hoist

-- was what I thought the order was?

Yes, that's the order. Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em.

Any of you ever listened to STORY OF A GHOST? That's my favorite album of theirs.

I think it's their worst. Gnomic, depressive. A good song or two at best.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 15 February 2003 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

First Tube is probably one of the most hilarious songs ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1yrBoO81mU

three handclaps, Friday, 21 December 2007 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I still kinda like Phish.

I have a Trey double-disc live album in my car.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 21 December 2007 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i saw 15 phish shows in high school!

69, Friday, 21 December 2007 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

kids wont know the meaning of drugs without bands like phish and grateful dead. it's a disaster.

CaptainLorax, Friday, 21 December 2007 04:16 (fourteen years ago) link

and why is that guy so funny looking? you tell me that.

CaptainLorax, Friday, 21 December 2007 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Classic. True originals, even if you do hate the "weeny guitar tone" (as mentioned upthread, which is kind of OTM and funny even though I like some of his playing) and the goofy tunes and hippie nonsense.

I have a soft spot for many of their hallmarks (again, not even factoring in the music or the 'scene'): genuine grassroots success; never-the-same-show-twice setlists; a deep back catalog that always gets dipped into; a fondness for weird venues; relentless showmanship.

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 21 December 2007 10:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I pulled the witch from out the ditch and turned to face the furry thugs,
The sheep they smiled with teeth agleam,
The weapons in their hooves revolved I detected a prostatic ream,
I gulped and felt my loins dissolve

Make of that what you will.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 21 December 2007 10:51 (fourteen years ago) link

kinda dud, i think, and not just for the all the phishheads. just not my bag, i guess.

though i was way into phish in a period in high school, but not to the extent of a lot my friends (i knew a lot of tape traders/collectors.... i could never understand the point of needing so many damn phish tapes).

i can still kind of enjoy parts of junta though, which is the only phish album i hung onto (when i was 17 i used to have all the major studio releases and a few live albums, including that hampton box set).

Mark Clemente, Friday, 21 December 2007 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link

You know what, I think I hate Phish more than DMB. I mean seriously I'll take Bela Fleck, Widespread Panic and Leftover Salmon over these dorks.

wanko ergo sum, Friday, 21 December 2007 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

since when does DMB not have some good random tracks, as does phish?

CaptainLorax, Friday, 21 December 2007 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Hoos I like the way you represent. I always wanted to be able to get into these guys a little more, because I can really enjoy noodly jam stuff sometimes, but the singing - something about the timbre of dude's voice - always keeps me away.

J0hn D., Friday, 21 December 2007 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

look at all the nude spocks posting here

gabbneb, Friday, 21 December 2007 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS7a14vXuq8&feature=related

gabbneb, Sunday, 27 January 2008 07:36 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl06ch9FDDs&feature=related

gabbneb, Sunday, 27 January 2008 07:36 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=23746

gabbneb, Sunday, 27 January 2008 07:48 (fourteen years ago) link

:( :( :(

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 January 2008 08:08 (fourteen years ago) link

man why you gotta post the youtubes and make me be like "ahhh yeah" and then hit me with that

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 January 2008 08:09 (fourteen years ago) link

harshin my steen

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 January 2008 08:10 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

So this new one isn't bad, as far as Phish studio albums go. I really like Trey's playing.

Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

I was just reading about Phish covering Neutral Milk Hotel on Stereogum and, you know, I think it make me love them a little bit more for pissing off a whole bunch of those annoying people that hold up NMH as something holy. Some choice comments:

"No one should be allowed to touch this song. This hurt my ears."

"Keep your jam bands off my favorite album. TAKE BACK THE MUSIC!"

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

I've never heard the original, but Phish's version sounded pretty decent.

kkvgz, Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

Won't you STEP into the FREE-ZER

Trip Maker, Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

Dud, because of scenes like this.

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/8260/8260733e941cd8222009f855e46620497651f6e.jpg

thirdalternative, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

sort of a capper for my phish project https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/learning-to-love-phish/

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 14:23 (eight months ago) link

oh awesome! very excited to read that having accompanied you on the journey! and major lol at the picture they chose to accompany it. just on the off chance any readers might not have an entrenched sense of them as the dorkiest band on earth

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 14:56 (eight months ago) link

Awesome Brad, can't wait to dive in! As Lavator says, even more excited having been able to see bits of your journey along the way.

Also, yeah that photo is lol, "quick, find the dorkiest picture of these dorks you can find". Feel like this was the runner-up:

https://phishsonian.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/1723253_10151854724266290_996336485_n.jpg

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 15:46 (eight months ago) link

Just finished the piece, I love it. I appreciate the honesty and the skepticism that framed part of the journey, pretty common starting point for a lot of people I know into Phish.

A far fairer piece on the band than I'd ever expect to see on Pitchfork, tbh. Brad - I would love to see you do a Sunday review for one of their albums, studio or live! Hampton Comes Alive could be a fun one, or Slip Stitch and Pass.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:04 (eight months ago) link

i would honestly love to write a full piece about the story of the ghost

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:06 (eight months ago) link

Even better!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:07 (eight months ago) link

Will check it out!

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:24 (eight months ago) link

was gonna say, i'm not in the biz but one of the trio of Billy Breathes/Story of the Ghost/Farmhouse seems most likely to get greenlit for a Sunday Review

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:47 (eight months ago) link

I only jumped on with you for a week or two during your Phish trip, but as usual, Brad, love your enthusiasm and writing.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:47 (eight months ago) link

Yeah this was a great read, and at this point I should probably mention that it was this thread that moved me to register an account after reading ILX off/on for circa eighteen years.

Even if at this point I probably won't get around to writing the "reckoning with Phish" megapost I'd originally intended to put together, I wanted to take a moment to say "thanks" to Brad -- hearing all of this stuff through your ears was a wild ride and brought me a great deal of wholly unexpected joy!

New York Review of Wooks (swim), Thursday, 28 October 2021 01:26 (eight months ago) link

Also, loved the detail about the lyrics of "Farmhouse" bc during my own Phish odyssey I got extremely hung up on that song for about a week during which my take progressed from "this particular band kicking off a record with a song that's like 'welcome to our place, sorry about all the flies' is maybe a little too on the nose" to "gosh, this is unbearably gorgeous" to suddenly considering the second verse and becoming v unsettled by the implication that the farmhouse may not be what it seems and the whole scenario may be dystopian (protagonist embarks on some sort of wwoofing journey/commune visit/etc in the aftermath of a bad breakup, initially innocuous situation is not what it seems, winds up doing forced labor and meditating bitterly on the nature of betrayal, never even gets to see the northern lights) to forcefully telling myself "cmon now, the 'stinging lash' is just the flies, right?" Like a much hairier version of what happens when Alannah Myles' "Black Velvet" catches you off guard in a grocery store and you find yourself unable to stop wondering exactly what the deal is with "a new religion that'll bring you to your knees."

New York Review of Wooks (swim), Thursday, 28 October 2021 01:40 (eight months ago) link

The head pic chosen for that article was golden

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 28 October 2021 01:50 (eight months ago) link

Home run, Brad. (And you have me wanting to explore the band, too. The live material I’ve heard was always more exciting than the handful of studio records I’ve sampled.)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 October 2021 12:20 (eight months ago) link

Bonkers "countdown" set last night, even if it led to exactly the predictable encore choice. Still, great start for the run. Seeing a lot of speculation that this means a numbers related Halloween cover, with 5150, 2112 and Pearl Jam's Ten being among the more popular guesses:

set 1: 2001, 1999 > 555 > 46 Days, Strawberry Letter 23 > Twenty Years Later
set 2: Seven Below > If 6 was 9 > Five Years > Two Versions of Me > NO2, Army of One, My Sweet One, First Tube > Character Zero

encore: Backwards Down the Number Line, Grind

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:03 (eight months ago) link

lmao that's amazing

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:33 (eight months ago) link

You are truly converted if you find a gimmick that high concept to be amazing and not inducive of eye rolls. I’m with you though! I have been at a few shows that had setlist mayhem, and a couple high concept ones where the first letters of all the songs spelled something out. They don’t always translate for posterity but it is pretty electric to be at a concert where that is happening.

Brad, I read and loved your piece on Pitchfork. Subsequently not one but two old Phish show buddies alerted me to its presence and gave us their own rave reviews. You struck the perfect balance between naming and articulating what makes Phish such persona non grata for so many, and what the fans see and experience that makes that first perspective hard to relate to.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 29 October 2021 17:03 (eight months ago) link

PHISH, SATURDAY 10/30/2021
MGM GRAND
Las Vegas, NV
SET 1: The Dogs > Ocelot, Turtle in the Clouds, Run Like an Antelope, Camel Walk, Wombat > Guyute, Big Black Furry Creature from Mars, Shaggy Dog, Dog Faced Boy, The Sloth, Llama, I Am the Walrus

SET 2: Dogs Stole Things, Your Pet Cat > Runaway Jim[1] > Piper -> Birds of a Feather, Harpua > Bug > The Lizards, Farmhouse

ENCORE: Vultures, Sleeping Monkey > Possum

[1] Unfinished.

J. Sam, Sunday, 31 October 2021 14:49 (eight months ago) link

Also +1 great work on the Pitchfork article, Brad!

J. Sam, Sunday, 31 October 2021 14:50 (eight months ago) link

they did it! the all animals set!!!

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 October 2021 15:27 (eight months ago) link

also thank you all for your kind comments on the piece, thrilled it has been well-received by the phish community, who i relentlessly owned in said piece

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 October 2021 18:00 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC8gpD6h3Z0

peace, man, Monday, 1 November 2021 12:16 (eight months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/fyo85pa.png

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 1 November 2021 13:41 (eight months ago) link

a youtube fan channel recently uploaded video of my atlantic city show's "split open and melt"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCsywXHAM10

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:09 (seven months ago) link

god that shit is the greatest ever

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:20 (seven months ago) link

four months pass...

I just discovered this Benevento/Russo Duo with Mike Gordon 53-minute Foam from 2005. I'm only 17 minute in, but holy shit. This is what I wish Phish was like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67oH6ZCiGPA

peace, man, Saturday, 12 March 2022 19:14 (three months ago) link

btw, I did listen to the entire thing last night and you should too.

peace, man, Sunday, 13 March 2022 22:33 (three months ago) link

Thanks for that! I saw this lineup in 2006 but they definitely did not bless it with a 53-minute "Foam".

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 March 2022 13:28 (three months ago) link

i live where they were supposedly going to have their last concert so what a bunch of duds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7pMiso2dxg

xzanfar, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:40 (three months ago) link

I have known about that Foam for awhile but never got around to listening to it. Last night, with an hour long drive to make and this bump having put it back on my radar, I got a little toasty and gave it a listen. Wow. Beautiful stuff.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 13:42 (three months ago) link

four weeks pass...

I try to listen to entire Phish shows from time to time - usually just picking from what's available on Spotify - and it has been kind of a mixed bag. But this morning I checked out 9/1/17 at Dick's and holy shit, was I rewarded. Playing's strong throughout. No dud songs. Opener Blaze On fucking ripped. Theme From the Bottom > Free was great. The second set is just NON-stop: No Men In No Man's Land > Carini > Ghost > Harry Hood > Cavern (copied that from phish.net, but I'm not totally sure whether those are all actually segued into one another and I'm pretty sure that NMINML gets reprised after the Ghost jam as well) - just playing and jamming and giving it their all. In the encore, Trey flubs the intro to Character Zero, but manages to recover from it with charm.

peace, man, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 16:56 (two months ago) link

Is anyone seeing any of the rescheduled new year's run at MSG (4/20-23)? I totally forgot this was happening, thinking about grabbing a ticket for Thursday 4/21 or Saturday 4/23 (currently available on StubHub for under $100). Would be my first time seeing them since 9/22/00(!)

J. Sam, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 15:22 (two months ago) link

(My girlfriend is recovering from COVID and I'm 90% sure none of my other friends will be down to go, but I don't mind flying solo...)

J. Sam, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 15:24 (two months ago) link

Not me, but since last week, I've subscribed to the Live Phish app and been blasting Phish shows nonstop and I have halfway considering getting lawn tickets for Merriweather this summer.

peace, man, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:12 (two months ago) link

I don't know what's happening to me.

peace, man, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:12 (two months ago) link

Seeing an MSG NYE show is on my bucket list, but won't be happening this year. Actually probably won't be seeing them at all this year, since there's no Chicago show. Alpine is great, but such a pain in the ass to get to that I can't rally anyone to make the trip.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:16 (two months ago) link

I was at MSG new years in 1998 and 2001. It was indeed a good time. Do it, peace, man!

I'll be on Hartford lawn if anyone wants to meet up.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:30 (two months ago) link

I was at 12/31/98 too!

peace, man, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 17:24 (two months ago) link

nice! i might've written about this upthread somewhere, but that was one of the best weeks of my life - certainly the most carefree. i was 16, and me and a best friend spent the whole 4-night run crashing at his cousin's place who was a med student in the city at the time. we had good tickets to all 4 shows. would get home at 1am, sleep till noon every day, then get stoned and play in the city till showtime. we were on completely opposite schedules and never saw his cousin.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 17:48 (two months ago) link

Ah, to be a teenage Phishhead again...

I've never actually heard any of the 98 new year's run so I just fired up the video of 12/31/98 on YouTube. Amazing setlist, thinking this is gonna be a nice ride.

J. Sam, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 18:12 (two months ago) link

Ohhh this first-set "Mike's" jam is GORGEOUS

J. Sam, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 18:32 (two months ago) link

oh yeah, get excited for the ghost too!

the 1st set is the one that stuck with me and that i always returned to, but i know people rate the tweezer in the 2nd as well

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 18:49 (two months ago) link

I'm deep into the "Ghost" now and it's wonderful. They seem to be in a really happy and laid-back (yet high-energy) mood. The "1999" opener set exactly the right vibe

J. Sam, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 19:05 (two months ago) link

PHISH, THURSDAY 04/21/2022
MADISON SQUARE GARDEN
New York, NY
SET 1: Suzy Greenberg[1] > 46 Days, Plasma, The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday > Avenu Malkenu > The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday, Wolfman's Brother, Esther, Ghost

SET 2: Chalk Dust Torture[2] -> Tweezer > Also Sprach Zarathustra > Maze, About to Run, The Mango Song > Harry Hood > Character Zero -> Tweezer -> Character Zero

ENCORE: A Life Beyond The Dream, Tweezer Reprise

[1] Dedicated to the “hero of the song,” Suzy Greenberg, who was attending her first Phish show
[2] Unfinished.

Incredible setlist porn from last night's MSG show, has me regretting not going (ended up grabbing a ticket for Saturday instead).

J. Sam, Friday, 22 April 2022 16:00 (two months ago) link

have fun tonight, J. Sam!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 23 April 2022 19:24 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Lol at this fool at the bar with a suit jacket and underneath a phish shirt

calstars, Sunday, 19 June 2022 00:37 (two weeks ago) link

you know where you are????? you're on the back of the WORM

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 June 2022 22:55 (one week ago) link

(i'm finally digging through the amsterdam box set and i'm in the thick of the second set of 7/1/97 and holy christ)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 June 2022 22:56 (one week ago) link

I went up to a family reunion not far from Fairmount in Indiana a few weeks back, rushing through a bunch of side highways through corn fields way up on the north side of Indianapolis, I ran behind the back entry of that big campground featuring a man-made lake that is right around Deer Creek (whatever corp name this year) music park.

The Phish Navy was in full regalia for their weekend run in the campground and it was packed.

My ex-stonerrock/deadhead lead guitarist who does not really care for Phish says they are a band forever in search of a song. I dunno, they got some pretty good jams myself but I can't get with some of the goofy tunes sometimes. There is so much, but a couple of the jams above, I did get with myself. I got quite a few cds of them and they got a couple listens each, but I never got deep into them say compared to the Dead.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:10 (one week ago) link

the drummer is classic for wearing a dress otherwise they never held my attention

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:58 PM (nineteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
did he wear a dress B4 Cobain?

― Oops (Oops), Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:59 PM (nineteen years ago)

if jon fishman was dead i'm sure there'd be an elaborate fan mythology in which he was actually a transgender woman

and then of course there's the guy who wrote halley's comet, he detransitioned tho, still, fucking legend

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 24 June 2022 00:59 (one week ago) link


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