NEW YORK v boston

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Boston had New Edition, so therefore we win. HONOUR THE TRESVANT!
-- Chris V. (formerlypoopsmcge...), February 12th, 2003.

So what? New York had Lydia Lunch so you.... OH CRAP?!?!? I guess you do win!

The Only One, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Definition of a "scene" = includes the occasional macing
-- Tracer Hand (tracerhan...), February 12th, 2003

Don't forget the obligatory _____________(insert your favorite monrity group here) bashing.

The Only One, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Last time I was in NYC -- pommes frites at 2 am or so.

See, that's what it's all about, baby.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, the moment I realized NY was the greatest was when I had borscht and potato pancakes delivered to Morningside Heights at 3 a.m.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Gotta say -- I've lived in NYC all my damn life, and Ray's Pizza (whichever Ray you happen to choose) is woefully overrated. There used to be a local band on the CB's/Continental circuit called "The Original Rays".....made me laugh. Neighborhood pizza parlors all suffice (`cept mine....Stromboli's on University Place between 12th and 13th kinda sucks. There hearts are in the right place, but their pizza is dire.)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

The pizza place in my part of Astoria sucks, too.

hstencil, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I agree with you Alex. The Genuine Original Famous Ray's regular slice I remember was an extremely large piece of gooey cheese with libral portions of hot grease I had to soak up with a towel before I even took a bite which, of course, burnt the living hell out of the roof on my mouth.

Wilkommen, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, but give me nineteen hours of shrill, yowling, bowel-clenching Lydia Lunch screaming torture over fuckin' New Edition any goddamn day of the new millenium.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not sure I get The Only One's point about minority bashing. What does that have to do with a music scene?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not sure I get The Only One's point about minority bashing. What does that have to do with a music scene?
-- Tracer Hand (tracerhan...), February 12th, 2003.

Metal scene: bash all mod/new wave disco -philes
REM/alt rocker scene: bash all other music deemed noty-hip ie: non-alt rock crap
Punk scene: bash all wanker music Re: all non-punk
Hardcore punk scene: bash all music except hardcore; especially wimpy punk like EMO, commercial stuff like the Offspring and Henry Rollins
... and on and on and on...

The Only One, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

"Last time I was in NYC -- pommes frites at 2 am or so."

The last time I was in New York I got mugged outside of the Sbarro' on Times Square at 3PM. No one helped me. I didn't lose a lot of money but my wallet with a few precious pictures, a couple of credit cards were taken from. No one helped me as I struggled with the beast who kicked me in the side after I was beaten in the face and thrown to the ground. Utterly humiliating. All this justified for a few french fries after midnight? I guess those really expensive small ass apartments with unmotivated supers makes up for all of that... along with the throngs of beggars, thieves, drug addicts, dope pushers and talentless musicians cluttering the streets day and night in front of those shops selling pommes frites to all hours and all manner of men, women and thugs.

nigel harris, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Travis Bickle to thread!

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link

"Travis Bickle to thread!"
-- Amateurist (amateuris...), February 12th, 2003.

Bravo! Bravo!

Mohawks rule, man!The only flick where Jody Foster was HOT. If it weren't for this film I never would have moved to NYC.

abu sayeff, Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link

" throngs of beggars, thieves, drug addicts, dope pushers "

Oh yeah, `cos you don't have these in other cities, of course.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Alex, I know there is a soft spot in that heart of yours for "Mr Telephone Man".

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Ray's Pizza (whichever Ray you happen to choose) is woefully overrated

I totally agree. Best pizza in New York is V&T, up by Columbia. Best pizza anywhere, as far as I'm concerned.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link

The last time I was in New York I got mugged outside of the Sbarro' on Times Square at 3PM.

I'm sorry that happened to you, but I've lived here most of my life and I've NEVER been mugged, assaulted, or anything like that.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link

The soft spot you speak of is actually not in my heart, but rather on my skull from the last time I tried to release myself from the audio torture of New Edition's "Candy Girl" via thwacking my noggin repeatedly with a 40 oz. of Crazy Horse Malt Liquor.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link

" throngs of beggars, thieves, drug addicts, dope pushers "
Oh yeah, `cos you don't have these in other cities, of course.

Yes, Alex, other cities do have druggies, pimps, whores, thieves, maggots and other bits and pieces of flotsom and jetsom. However, they are not the thundering heard they are in NYC nor are they considered part of the normal social landscape as they are in the big apple. What kind of person loses his shit just because they can get a corned beef sandwich made to order at three in the morning? I guess it is the same kind of person who can't see that it's the same place where there is a rape happening in broad daylight in front of a subway car full of deaf dumb and blind folks every fifteen minutes.

nigel harris, Thursday, 13 February 2003 01:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Troll?

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess it is the same kind of person who can't see that it's the same place where there is a rape happening in broad daylight in front of a subway car full of deaf dumb and blind folks every fifteen minutes.

*mutters under breath*

do not feed the troll
do not feed the troll
do not feed the troll

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 13 February 2003 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link

My 2 cents:

From Boston
The Zulu's - overlooked and underrated by everyone who never saw them live.
The Lyres - another phenomenal live band - Cantones, anyone?
Peste
Volcano Suns
Mission Of Burma
The Freeze - Ok, they were from the Cape, but close enough dammit!

From NY
Ramones

Ok - NY wins

Davlo (Davlo), Thursday, 13 February 2003 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link

From NY
Ramones

Ok - NY wins


-- Davlo (daveloe...), February 13th, 2003.

Right on, brother!

Elvis Peacock, Thursday, 13 February 2003 11:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, but give me nineteen hours of shrill, yowling, bowel-clenching Lydia Lunch screaming torture over fuckin' New Edition any goddamn day of the new millenium.
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), February 12th, 2003.


I don't know, Alex... looks like we got a toss up here.

Public Enema Number 1 (Public Enema Number 1), Thursday, 13 February 2003 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link

"...and this is why BOSTON will always beat NY..."
You are obviously on drugs. The real reason why NY will always beat Boston is Katz's delicatessen. Nothing.... I repeat, NOTHING can top their liverwurst pile high on rye with a fresh pickle on the side... except maybe one of their sizzling Reubens with an ice cold Coke!
-- orca, February 11th, 2003.
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Oh, Orca. I did not think I could get much more excited than the imagery of Mission of Burma in close proximity to Famous Ray's, but you had to then bring up KATZ DELICATESSEN!!!!

My goodness, and all the "Send a Salami to Your Boy in the Army" imagery.

Excuse me for a few moments....

BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Thursday, 13 February 2003 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

"Send a Salami to Your Boy in the Army"

... sounds like a sound-bite from Cheech and Chong's WEDDING ALBUM.

Public Enema Number 1 (Public Enema Number 1), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:28 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Beantown ain't squat.

illuminati 4, Friday, 11 April 2003 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Boston:
Fat Day, Life Partners / L.A. Drugs / the Twisted Village axis, Come, RRRecords (Lowell MA), the current "free-improv" scene (The BSC, nmperign, Dave Gross, etc), Red Bliss / Kudgel / Madbox, TDS Mob (early Boston hip-hop), Willie Loco...even Sleep Chamber put out a great single early in their career.

Russ (Russ), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Boston has the Dresden Dolls - first local band I can be proud of in awhile.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Boston is an awful city, some decent bands not withstanding.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Blame the college kids: they know they are leaving in 4 years, so they can act like jackrabbit meatbrains.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

(how did i miss theis thread?)

both places are so so dead right now, unless you count the endless armies of hipster idiots. maybe its just me though, but there was a period in the early 90's when i was going back and forth between the two cities watching band after amazing band.

DRESDEN DOLLS ON JIMMY KIMMEL TONIGHT!

me, i just wanna move to the mountains.

& what sort of fool compares anything to NYC. whats next, 2% milk verus pure uncut heroin? the amazon river versus a puddle of piss?

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.nba.com/media/celtics/121203Photo_Bird1.jpg

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

boston doesnt appreciate their good bands so they move away. hence, boston loses to nyc.

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Larry Bird is from Indiana.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

arent you from indiana?

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

NOPE. But I am from not too far from French Lick, though.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"both places are so so dead right now, unless you count the endless armies of hipster idiots"

Well, the lack of good bands in Boston does give me confidence in my music!

Worchester seems to have a lot of Noize stuff going on.

Also, thanks for the Dresden Dolls tip kephm....

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.sohoweeklynews.com/Book/Music/modern_lovers_on_stage_std.jpg


http://www.twintone.com/scrapbook/photos/richman/dix.jpeg

xpost: stence, is that a joke? no shit

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i didnt know this thread was exclusive to where ones momma broke ones water!!

(sonic youth were from CT(kim), etc, Rapture are from Cali, AND SO ON!)

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Michael, check out brainwashed.com, its not a boston band site or anything, but its good for local stuff as it is run around here somewhere

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

TS: Town where your band is formed vs Town where your body is formed

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

um I should say I grew up not too far from French Lick, as Louisville's about an hour or so away.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Kephm, I know of Brainwashed, it is an excellent site.

Forced exposure should open a shop here, or at least merge with Twisted Village.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...
How come a virtually unknown NYC band: The Bravery - managed to get a TV slot on the BBC?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/later/show/index_20041112.shtml

The Bravery
The Bravery are New York's latest coolest band and they're making their TV debut on Later. Their band name & songs are born out of the post 9/11 fear ridden NYC.

Does this band have a reputation back in NYC or they just a bunch of lucky chancers with good management?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

http://jenyk.com/bandphotography/bravery.htm

Seemingly having come out of nowhere, they've pretty much knocked the City upside its unsuspecting head with their four week sold out standing room only residency at Arlene's Grocery

Which says everything, I suppose. I've never heard of them. I'm going to assume they're the kind of bland band that has the right haircuts, get's hyped, get's on Conan and has a record deal before anyone actually listens to the music. Then everyone will forget about them in a year. It happens all the time.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't even think they're from New York either.

danh (danh), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Apparently they are signed to a major label: Island.

Rolling Stone:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6487762?rnd=1097123339652&has-player=unknown

I heard a Bravery track today on BBC 6 Music sounded a bit generic dancey-punkfunk-rock circa 2002 - like an inferior version of Radio 4.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard there demo a few years ago. It was the Strokes with an even more disco bass line. The vocal thought, sounded exactly like Julian. It was more thatn a little creepy.

danh (danh), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I just actually bothered to read through this entire thread. As someone who just moved from Brooklyn to Boston, I find myself trying to play this same game -- I always defend Boston successfully with THE JONZUN CREW and DONNA SUMMER. That shuts em up.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link


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