Jorge Ben Jor S/D

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
I saw "Jorge Ben Jor" listed on Red Hot + Riot and thought "jor" might be Portugese for "junior" or something. I hadn't realized he'd changed his name. I also took a look at a Jorge Ben Jor discography lately. I'd had no idea he was so prolific, and that he was still pretty active. What's the best of what he's released, and what sort of styles has he worked in by now?

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 9 February 2003 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i only own Africa Brasil, and it's an amazing slice of brazilian funk from the early 70s. it's also where rod stewart stole the melody of "if you think i'm sexy" from

http://www.dustygroove.com/brazilcd.htm#16872

JasonD (JasonD), Sunday, 9 February 2003 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

this album convinced me to buy a cuica

JasonD (JasonD), Sunday, 9 February 2003 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

You have a cuica?? I want one!

Yeah, Africa Brasil is the bizness.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 9 February 2003 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I agree--Africa Brasil. There are moments there, though, that I find a little smarmy, the Brazilian idea of funk is a little more genteel than the North American. But it's a really good album. His album with Gilberto Gil is also good, the songs are all long jams but I think it works. He wrote "Zazueira" which was covered brilliantly by Elis Regina in 1969 on "Elis in London."

Edd Hurt (delta ed), Sunday, 9 February 2003 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Ther are two bum songs on Africa Brasil but I'm forgetting the names right now. Otherwise yes, it's classic.

Amazingly, his box set, Serie Grandes Nomes--which my friend owns, not me--is great all the way through. (Unlike similar sets by Gilberto Gil, etc.)

Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 9 February 2003 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

A Tabua de Esmeralda (apologies for omitting the accent marks) is also worth investigating.

TMFTML
http://intonation.blogspot.com

TMFTML (TMFTML), Sunday, 9 February 2003 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah--Gilberto Gil is uneven. The best one-disc comp is on Mercury, has all the great early stuff. He tried to play reggae in the '70s, and didn't succeed. But I always liked "Realce" and "Refazenda" pretty well, they're slick pop and good. Jorge Ben is great but very limited, Gil is the best of all those tropicalist guys.

Edd Hurt (delta ed), Monday, 10 February 2003 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

A good article on Jorge Ben:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/jorgeben.html

(hope that survives the auto-link munging)

Includes this gem: "In 1989, he changed his name to Jorge Ben Jor; the result of a mix up over royalty payments that went to George Benson instead of Ben."

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Monday, 10 February 2003 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, so there's the George Benson connection.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 10 February 2003 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link

"In 1989, he changed his name to Jorge Ben Jor; the result of a mix up over royalty payments that went to George Benson instead of Ben."

Er, who do they have working at the BMI accounts payable department? "Uh, Mr. Kingsley, can we have those 45,000 pounds back, it was meant to go to Ben E. King."

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 10 February 2003 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Africa Brasil is indeed terrific. I love Umbabarauma - surely the greatest afro-brazilian record ever. Samba Esquema Novo is also a phenomenal record - hard to believe it's from 1963! Comanche, from Cliffy's Black Rio compil, is also gorgeous. Take It easy My Brother Charles is more of the same but so coooool. I saw him live in London last year. It was OK, but all a bit over-smooth for my liking. medleys really piss me off, for a start, and there were several.

Daniel (dancity), Monday, 10 February 2003 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Gilberto Gil is the best of the Tropicalia guys, says edd Hurt. Caetano? Tom Ze?

Daniel (dancity), Monday, 10 February 2003 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

mutantes?

JasonD (JasonD), Monday, 10 February 2003 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

It seems something like penny-ante revisionism to me to declare that Mutantes or Tom Ze were better than Gilberto Gil. Of course, taste is taste, but the scope of Gil's achievement seems much broader than that of the other two artists. I wouldn't argue for Veloso over Gil or vice-versa, though.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 10 February 2003 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

The best thing about Caetano vs. Gilberto is that there IS no "vs." there--they work together all the time, cover each other's songs, and there is no rivalry whatsoever. No need for a Superman/Batman battle...the only breakdown (and it's slight) is that Gil is more African/Jamaican/populist and Veloso is more electronic/European/intellectual--but this is already a false dichotomy.

As for Jorge Ben, he's doomed outside Brazil to "number three" status, whereas in Brazil (especially Rio) he's the king of modern samba, extremely beloved and popular. (Most of the other big Tropicalistas are from Bahia or--Milton Nascimento, Lo Borges--Minas Gerais, and Rio wasn't especially "cool" back then.) But search out Brazilian Hits and Funky Classics and Serie Sem Limite for two great greatest-hits discs.

And to hear an excellently sloppy 79-minute drunken collab between Ben and Gil from 1975, get your hands on Ogun/Xango, which is amazingly cool despite Gil's persistent pitch problems.

Neudonym, Monday, 10 February 2003 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I need some info about the different versions of "Taj Mahal" that are out there. IIRC, I have some 80's-90's live versions, a medleyed version on piano, the Africa Brasil version, and something that sounds like it predates all of them and which has one of the most FEROCIOUS percussion breakdowns I have ever heard in my life. I can trace the source records on all the other versions, but I can't find any concrete documentation about this one at all.

Taj Mahal later recorded a song called "Jorge Ben." True!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 10 February 2003 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I also have the 12-minute Gil E Jorge version, too. That's definitely not it, either.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 10 February 2003 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

does anyone know anything about Baden Powell's "Os Afros Sambas"? it's a beautiful disc with wonderful songs. i have a cd released in the 90s. he talks in the liner notes about how it was first recorded in the 60s with the exact same arrangements and songs, except with a cheap 2track recorder and everyone was drunk as shit. the wives, friends and girlfriends sang on the recording. it sounds so amazing.

does anyone know if this 60s version is still available??

JasonD (JasonD), Monday, 10 February 2003 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I bought the original 60s version of Os Afro Sambas on CD recently. It's a fine record.

Daniel (dancity), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Daddino: I'm not sure where that version of "Taj Mahal" comes from originally, but I think it can be found on the compilation album Salt and Tabasco, which I had and then inexplicably sold. Not, however, before taping that song. Of course, now I've lost the tape. Neudonym, thy name is moron.

Neudonym, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Gilberto Gil is the best of the Tropicalia guys, says edd Hurt. Caetano? Tom Ze? says Daniel...

I think he's the best--I like Veloso (read his memoir recently), but he's kind of the Sting of Brazilian music, very nice, melodic, a little too genteel for my taste. Plus he's just so derivative of João Gilberto (yeah, all the post-bossa musicians owe him a lot, but Caetano really takes it too far). Still, Gil and Veloso's '90s collab, "Tropicalia 2," is the best thing either one of them has done in years. I like "Livro" pretty well too. Tom Ze is great--he's in his own category, actually. Mutantes are also very good, but Gil is so much more prolific, with a few duds here and there, but overall, he's consistent. He's certainly more listenable, at his most over-produced, than Paul McCartney... "O Sol De Oslo" was his best album in ages.

Edd Hurt (delta ed), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

And to hear an excellently sloppy 79-minute drunken collab between Ben and Gil from 1975, get your hands on Ogun/Xango, which is amazingly cool despite Gil's persistent pitch problems.

-- Neudonym

Is this the same record as "Gil and Jorge"?

Edd Hurt (delta ed), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I have the 4-CD set just titled "Jorge Ben", on Polygram from Brazil. It's all 70s stuff. Man, is it good.

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Veloso (read his memoir recently), but he's kind of the Sting of Brazilian music, very nice, melodic, a little too genteel for my taste. Plus he's just so derivative of João Gilberto

Which Veloso are you basing this judgment on?

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

(That is, which albums, although which version of Caetano would work too.)

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

His early records are all pretty good--late '70s and early '80s less so. "Estrangeiro" is interesting as an Arto Lindsay record. His collaborations with Morelenbaum have their moments. "Livro" is the most consistent C.V. album I know. His version of "Billie Jean" is god-awful.

So--which version of C.V.? All of them, really--I find his voice "beautiful" but inexpressive; he's so concerned with "singing beautifully" that nothing much comes across most of the time (for me, at least). A good example would be the two versions of "Tradicao" on Gil's "Realce" and Gil/Veloso's "Tropicalia 2." The orig. version, by Gil, is maybe a big cheesy--slick Fender Rhodes sound and all--but the vocal has so much character. Whereas the 1993 version, sung by Veloso, and with a really beautiful acoustic guitar arrangement, done more slowly, is nice, but his vocal just expresses...nothing... to me, it lacks character. Gil is more soulful, in my opinion.

I find this affects all his work, at least to my ears. His guitar playing is competent but again, it's just a watered-down version of João's. So I guess it's a matter of taste--I've seen C.V. live, though, and enjoyed it immensely.

Edd Hurt (delta ed), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you heard Veloso's more modest, odder work of the '70s and '80s, like Araca Azul and Ons?

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Or CV's completely whacked-out experimental stuff of the late 60s/early 70s, where he completely wed beauty/melody/etc. to some of the freakier pop music being made anywhere?

Or, for that matter, any of Gil's late-60s/early-70s self-titled albums, which might be better than CV's at that? Some of the weird stuff on Side 2 of Gil's 1969 album out-collage anything being done anywhere; and that's on a record that also includes "Aquele Abraco," which might be the most beautiful pop melody, maybe, ever?

Jorge Ben, though, to un-hijack the thread, doesn't get enough credit for being slightly subversively experimental in his own Flamengo-loving heavy-drinking common-man way. Discuss?

Neudonym, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Which JB records are most experimental? I'd like to check them out.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I've never heard "O Bidu: Silencio no Brooklyn" or his s/t 1969 album, but apparently they're both hella wild and very free sometimes. And then there's "Africa Brasil". But my man Joe Sixpack rates those three highly with major innovation points.

Here's his breakdown: http://www.slipcue.com/music/brazil/ben.html

Neudonym, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you heard Veloso's more modest, odder work of the '70s and '80s, like Araca Azul and Ons?

-- Amateurist


Yeah--I like it, mostly.

Gil: I really love "Aquele Abraço"--what a great song. "Refazenda" too.

I don't know why no one has put out a good two-disc Gil best-of in this country, with translations.

don't really know that much about Jorge Ben beyond "Africa Brasil"--I own this "Personalidade" best-of on Jorge Ben (Jor) but I've never really been able to get into it, seems mostly unformed and crude to me, but I'm probably just u.f. and c. myself.

Edd Hurt (delta ed), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
for those interested: Jorge Ben Jor is playing S.O.B.s during Brazilian Carnival (Feb. 19, 20)

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

since i first posted i've gotten a bunch more Ben albums.

Sacudin Ben Samba - 'nice' early album. never excited me that much but also never turned it off.

A Tábua de Esmeralda - probably my favorite of his albums. super duper emotional. at one point it sounds like he's about to cry as he's singing.

i have a few more on vinyl that i don't remember the titles to and can't find the covers to remember, but they are all very good. only complaint is, as someone said upthread, they get a bit samey.

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

The Mutantes shtick got a little old for me after a while, but Jorge Ben, Gilberto Gil and Caetano Veloso I've only grown to love even more over time.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

some of Gil's albums (1969 especially) are way more tripped out than anything the mutantes ever did without getting silly

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Did anyone mention the part in Tropical Truth where Caetano had to convince Gilberto not to quit the business, which he wanted to do because Jorge was just too good?

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Revive! Just because he's coming up on some other threads. In addition to Africa Brasil, I have Samba Esquema Novo, Ben É Samba Bom and a Sem Limite comp, all of which I play all the time.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
does anyone have a clue which album the song Comanche from the Black Rio comp comes from? a google/amg/discogs search turns up nothing.

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Friday, 7 July 2006 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I just received the Força Bruta album which they were pushing at Dusty Groove, but now I see that it is on the um, Dusty Groove label and am a little afraid to put it on.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 20 July 2007 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno. 1970. i bet it's amazing.

jaxon, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:09 (twelve years ago) link

Why? That's one of his classic albums.

mitya, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

Actually, I know one tune from the comps, "Mulher brasiliera," and I like that one so we'll see how it goes.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

OK, I took a break after the end of disc two of my other purchase, the Benny Moré box, put this on and yeah it's pretty cool. Funky soul, kinda like Bill Withers, I guess. The leadoff track I recognize from a comp too, "Oba lá vem ela."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

Ooh it's the top seller at Other Music in NY and Chicago Reader's Peter Margasak is blogging about it. Slipcue.com suggests it's a bit mellow but still gives it the thumbs up.

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 July 2007 12:50 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

JaXon:
>does anyone have a clue which album the song Comanche from the Black Rio comp comes from? a google/amg/discogs search turns up nothing.

Jorge Ben - Negro e Lindo

Paul, Sunday, 9 September 2007 03:09 (twelve years ago) link

thank you, one year later.

jaxon, Sunday, 9 September 2007 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

It looks like Dusty Groove will be reissuing Ben's eponymous 1969 LP — Rogerio Duprat-directed, with "Take It Easy, My Brother Charles" — in August. I'm excited!

eatandoph, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

was africa brasil reissued on vinyl? is there a 12" or 45 out there of 'taj mahal'?

deej, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

everyone shd listen to "ben", it is one of my favorite 10 records by anybody ever

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:22 (five years ago) link

been digging this africa brasil era TV perf of "zumbi"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXMZw0gUyPA

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 16 November 2013 04:22 (five years ago) link

i think zumbi (africa brasil) is possibly the greatest song ever made

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, 16 November 2013 04:30 (five years ago) link

well africa brasil is possibly the greatest album ever made so it follows

call all destroyer, Saturday, 16 November 2013 04:51 (five years ago) link

actually my favorite jorge ben song might be the a tabua "zumbi"

for a song abt slavery it's pretty joyful sounding

I love africa brasil but I'm kind of burnt out on it

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 16 November 2013 07:26 (five years ago) link

if u are burnt out on it, go listen to "ben", totally different vibe

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, 16 November 2013 12:34 (five years ago) link

I've got about ten Jorge Ben albums and I always think I have one definitive favorite until I play a different one and it becomes my new favorite — until of course I play another one and that becomes my favorite.

I definitely have a favorite song though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YikALKVpb0o

Love that string arrangement in the final third of the tune. Gives me chills on most days.

Austin, Saturday, 16 November 2013 14:17 (five years ago) link

Ahh, try that again, for those that do not wish to click away from this thread, but would still like to listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YikALKVpb0o

Austin, Saturday, 16 November 2013 14:18 (five years ago) link

Dusty Groove was supposed to reissue Negro e Linda, Ben and Solta O Pavao in August, but they've been listed as "delayed" since that time. I was hoping they'd do remastering of them independent of the Salve, Jorge! box that came out from Universal Brazil a couple of years ago, whose sound is kinda loud and harsh — the reissues Dusty Groove did of the '69 s/t and Força Bruta sounded really nice.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 16 November 2013 16:40 (five years ago) link

The man is probably my favorite songwriter of all time. How he has managed to churn out so much incredible music is just unreal. Pretty much any of his albums up until the 1980s are outright classics, although I am most partial to his debut, Forca Bruta, and O Bido. I think his debut album was so ahead of its time and is one of the best pop albums ever made.

For all the love Africa Brasil gets it's nowhere near his best in my opinion. My favorite aspect of his pre-Africa Brasil output is the sound of his acoustic guitar, so taking it out is almost too big of a loss to surmount.

Great thread by the way. My listening for the rest of the night is sorted.

issiahtwofour, Saturday, 16 November 2013 22:13 (five years ago) link

I've got about ten Jorge Ben albums and I always think I have one definitive favorite until I play a different one and it becomes my new favorite
To this I can relate.

He's here tomorrow night but don't think I can make it.

Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 00:07 (five years ago) link

I love africa brasil but I'm kind of burnt out on it

― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:26 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if u are burnt out on it, go listen to "ben", totally different vibe

― shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:34 AM (13 hours ago)

yeah, I know all about ben. I've heard everything up through the 80s. the holy trinity for me is africa brasil, a tabua, and forca bruta. a banda do ze pretinho just outside that. the rest have some great tracks but don't work well as albums for me.

the s/t 1969 has always baffled me. it kept me from getting into his early stuff for a while, ppl call it one of his best but every time I listen to it it leaves me cold.

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:14 (five years ago) link

Like the same ones as you but have more time for the earlier ones as well.

Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:17 (five years ago) link

Dusty Groove was supposed to reissue Negro e Linda, Ben and Solta O Pavao in August, but they've been listed as "delayed" since that time. I was hoping they'd do remastering of them independent of the Salve, Jorge! box that came out from Universal Brazil a couple of years ago, whose sound is kinda loud and harsh — the reissues Dusty Groove did of the '69 s/t and Força Bruta sounded really nice.

They indeed do wonderful and I as well have been watching for those delayed reissues since probably at least June.

The David Axelrod Seriously Deep and the other Jorge Ben albums they did a few years back were all so well done. Just wish they had done vinyl reissues as well.

Austin, Sunday, 17 November 2013 05:38 (five years ago) link

He was a lot of fun live last night at the Howard Theatre even if I didn't recognize some of the songs.I think they were doing some post-70s ones with a rap-funk flavor. Plus ones like "Spirogyra." I know its $80 some bucks to see him in NY but it might be worth it. In DC lots of Portuguese-speakers were there happily chanting and singing along and swaying and sambaing. As Ben did when I saw him in 2004, he invited women onstage to dance to "Gostosa." They were also hugging him and taking "selfies" as he kept singing. He looks much younger than 68. They closed with a joyfully melodic "Taj Mahal."

curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:23 (five years ago) link

Hm. I wonder if I should try to get over there tonight. Went to see Marisa Monte a few months back and there were a lot of Brazilians in the audience singing along as well which made it a lot of fun.

Picture Books of the Pyramid Meets the Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:47 (five years ago) link

Do it. Just uh skip something in the future to justify the $80 plus

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 November 2013 05:24 (five years ago) link

Searched "jorge ben" on twitter and recent tweets were divided between those loving the NYC show, and those complaining about how much they hate B.B. King's club in NYC where Jorge played. The folks who book that place also book the Howard Theatre in D.C. (with high prices at both)

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 November 2013 15:35 (five years ago) link

Couldn't make it and don't love that place. Last time I went was years ago to see the Yardbirds with Mr. Fine Wine whose childhood friend was in the band, so I got to meet Giorgio Gomelsky and Jim McCarty. Had no such connection for this show.

Picture Books of the Pyramid Meets the Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 November 2013 15:44 (five years ago) link

Why no NPR concert (like Bill Callahan) or NPR Tiny Desk Unit show (like lots of indie folks) for Jorge Ben. C'mon Bob Boilen

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 15:21 (five years ago) link

I've never heard "O Bidu: Silencio no Brooklyn" or his s/t 1969 album, but apparently they're both hella wild and very free sometimes.

I just heard this album and while it doesn't get very free or wild, it sounded wonderful. His singing is GREAT, cooler and chill (not quite as dense as a lot of his other stuff I've heard, less syllables per bar). And the texture of his voice has this wonderful grain to it, a perfect rough/smooth balance (maybe due to the production? the overall sound of the album is great, if a bit rough). And the songs are catchy as hell.

☞ (brimstead), Thursday, 28 November 2013 21:09 (five years ago) link

this album = O Bidu

☞ (brimstead), Thursday, 28 November 2013 21:09 (five years ago) link

That is a great tune, and his vocal delivery is marvelous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bjIRHGNGHQ

curmudgeon, Friday, 29 November 2013 19:09 (five years ago) link

o bidu is the missing link tween samba-era jorge and what came later, a more important listen than '69's s/t imo

supposedly there's two v diff mixes of that album floating around but I've never been able to track down the dry mix (t'other is heavily reverbed)

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:59 (five years ago) link

He sings on a track on the recent Natalia Lafourcade album. Its her tribute to Agustin Lara album, and their rendition of the cut has a bit of a Brazilian feel to it. I don't know Lara's music (his prime was 1930 to 1960s) and I haven't tried to find other versions to compare. But its good to see Ben in the public eye (at least the Latin rock public eye if not crossover with US or UK or elsewhere)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:48 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

Dusty Groove has Africa Brasil back in stock and reasonably priced:
http://www.dustygroove.com/item/700774

Still waiting on those other reissues. . .

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 6 July 2014 15:06 (five years ago) link

His best record in my opinion but many prefer A Tábua de Esmeralda

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Sunday, 6 July 2014 19:39 (five years ago) link

BENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Ben_-_Jorge_Ben_Album.jpg

get at me when this is ready

it's not a fedora, it's a trill bae (m bison), Sunday, 6 July 2014 19:41 (five years ago) link

whoa huge jpg

it's not a fedora, it's a trill bae (m bison), Sunday, 6 July 2014 19:41 (five years ago) link

I know. They're saying August now.

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 6 July 2014 22:03 (five years ago) link

x-post -Not in stock anymore:

Africa Brasil
CD (Item 700774) Universal (Japan), 1976 — Condition: New Copy

Just Sold Out!

CD

Add to
Watch List

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 20:01 (five years ago) link

They'll restock, surely.

austinato (Austin), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 22:46 (five years ago) link

Played Jorge doing "Taj Mahal" on the Spotify playlist at my wedding reception this past weekend....It made me very happy

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 13:39 (five years ago) link

Congrats.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 13:49 (five years ago) link

Which version?

it's not a fedora, it's a trill bae (m bison), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 14:36 (five years ago) link

I recall grabbing a short one from a comp I think

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 July 2014 04:33 (five years ago) link

man that doesnt help there are like 5 versions of taj mahal

it's not a fedora, it's a trill bae (m bison), Thursday, 10 July 2014 04:49 (five years ago) link

does it start with 4 on the floor and a horn section and some cuica?

it's not a fedora, it's a trill bae (m bison), Thursday, 10 July 2014 04:51 (five years ago) link

chill out dude's on his honeymoon

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 10 July 2014 19:20 (five years ago) link

actually it's really crucial and time sensitive that we know exactly which version he played. curmudgeon?

J. Sam, Thursday, 10 July 2014 19:24 (five years ago) link

JORGE BEN IS RLY IMPT TO ME

it's not a fedora, it's a trill bae (m bison), Thursday, 10 July 2014 19:58 (five years ago) link

Bear up, m bison

Don't Want To Know If Only You Were Lonely (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 10 July 2014 20:00 (five years ago) link

Played Jorge doing "Taj Mahal" on the Spotify playlist at my wedding reception this past weekend....It made me very happy

good drunk song

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 11 July 2014 04:22 (five years ago) link

Back in stock for $13.99 + postage:
https://www.dustygroove.com/item/700774

(along with a few other great JBJ titles)

austinato (Austin), Thursday, 24 July 2014 13:23 (five years ago) link

thanks

curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 July 2014 18:16 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Those Dusty Groove reissues that were listed for August no longer show up in search results on the site.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 06:07 (five years ago) link

Sorry. Maybe they'll get more back in soon (Japanese editions). Glad I jumped on and bought Africa Brasil while it was available.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 15:50 (five years ago) link

Back when I covered Luaka Bop's 21rst Anniversary collection, I started off by thinking out loud about this Ben song, one of my all-time faves by anybody anywhere; any comments on its (and his) back story etc. would be welcome:

Is "Ponta De Lanca Africano (Umbabarauma)" really about where slaves
arrived in Brazil? Or did I just expand a mental legend over the
years, trying to explain and contain the unsettling, unsettled poise
and expanse of Jorge Ben's rolling, grinding samba soul classic?
Literally, it's about soccer, but the key line "um ponta de lan a
Africano" doesn't match the title ("Point of the African Lance",
ouch!), and the line's translation---"an African point man" (also "Um
ponta de lan a decidio", " A man whose mind is made up")—is pretty
pointed too. Word to Brazil's 60s junta, and to its polite society,
which has long tended to insist that Brazilians aren't hung up on
race. But it sounds like big Ben's got all of the above and something
else on his mind, that he's listening to, listening for. Sounds like
he's still listening.
The restless example of Ben (who could have played it safe, with
respectably salt-of-the-earth pop star status established early)
further schooled Beleza Tropical, the reputation-making debut release
on Luaka Bop, the New York City label founded by David Byrne in 1988
Beleza… arrived like a ship from post-bossa nova Brazil, mostly filled
with discreetly fabulous and accomplished descendants of the
tale-telling, refugee gamesters in Boccaccio's Decameron. The crew of
Beleza… can mostly be ID'd as members and fellow travelers of the '60s
Tropicalia movement, who had been exiled or isolated because of
yadda yadda; he's the point man get it.

dow, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 21:08 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

wow yeah that slays! never heard this record before

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:27 (one week ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.