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It will come back, yes. Was it really that bad?

Front 242 : Front X Front
Front Line Assembly: Caustic Grip

fletrejet, Thursday, 6 February 2003 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Without Wax Trax! and Nettwerk, I would have had a very different adolescence.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 February 2003 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

PTV song: "Bliss" (Rest of album expendable)

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 6 February 2003 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

am i the only one who thought Wax Trax! was absolutely the worst 'industrial' label of that era?

Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Thursday, 6 February 2003 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic: "No Name, No Slogan" by Acid Horse, "Apathy and "Supernaut" by 1000 Homo DJ's, "Ride the Mindway" by My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult, "Stainless Steel Providers" and "Beers, Steers + Queers" by Revolting Cocks, "Rubber Glove Seduction" by PTP, "I Will Refuse" by Pailhead.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 February 2003 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

And "Man Should Surrender," thinking of Pailhead. The Stone Breath version of that song is a total mindfuck.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 February 2003 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, I guess. The WaxTrax Black Box used to be one of my most played albums. Ahh...memories. I think the only WT that I currently own is Ministry's Cold Life 12", though. I don't think I could ever listen to this stuff again. Search: "Everyday Is Halloween", "Butterfly Potion", "Love's Secret Domain", "Cuz It's Hot", uhh....the christian zombie vampire one, Die Warzau, RevCo/Chris Conelly, and KMFDM's Money. Ooh and Virus too! That song's dope. Destroy: Laibach, Pig, Psychic TV, Sister Machine Gun, most KMFDM (and especially their side projects), Mussolini Headkick, Psykosonik, Cyberaktif, Suicide's "A Way Of Life", Pigface (who are all guilty by association)...c'mon, there was a lotta really bad stuff. Oh yeah, and Gashed Senses & Crossfire is totally the definitive early Frontline Assembly record...although Caustic Grip was pretty good too.

James Annett (jlannett), Thursday, 6 February 2003 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

"christian zombie vampire one" = "The Days Of Swine And Roses" = one of the best singles of the 90s.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 February 2003 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

That's the one!

James Annett (jlannett), Thursday, 6 February 2003 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Front Line Assembly's tour for _Caustic Grip_ = CLASSIC!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 February 2003 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

That whole album by My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult (CONFESSIONS OF KNIFE) is pretty farkin' great.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 February 2003 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

And "Man Should Surrender," thinking of Pailhead.

definitely. pailhead is probably the only thing i listen to on waxtrax anymore. anymore = "since 1990." though that divine cd was kind of a nightmare and i occasionally want to hear "supernaut."

The Stone Breath version of that song is a total mindfuck.

my girlfriend sings on that!

your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 7 February 2003 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link

! So you've got a Dark Holler connection going, eh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 February 2003 00:16 (eighteen years ago) link

TKK = GODLY. (Ironically enough.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 February 2003 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link

:) My industrial-dance-listening friend at an exhibit of Edvard Munch prints in Baltimore: "Christian zombie vaaaammmmppppiiiiirrreeess..."
there was a little dance/pantomime that went with it, I can't explain tho.

daria g, Friday, 7 February 2003 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link

This all kinda goes hand-in-hand with a lot of the New Beat stuff coming out at the time... and all the Play It Again Sam stuff, and Subway/Antler, and all that ZYX/Technodrome stuff like Bigod 20, Vomito Negro, and all that is TALLA 2XLC. Like Dan, my childhood would have been very different without all of this.

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 7 February 2003 02:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i've been listening to rubber glove seduction all week; heard it in a coffee shop (of all places) and rembered how grebt i thought it was.
¡my childhood would've been almost completly silent without the trax!

dyson (dyson), Friday, 7 February 2003 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

So you've got a Dark Holler connection going, eh?

yeah, it gets me all the blow i can snort, lemme tell ya.

your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 7 February 2003 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck yeah. I guess. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 February 2003 03:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i'd say classic for importance, although i find it amusing that having grown up in Chicago and spent a lot more time in and around record shops/clubs/etc. (incl. Wax Trax---my sister's friend's mom used to date the estimable Mr. Jourgensen), i think i didn't actually listen to much on it until quite a bit later in my adolescence. as opposed to when i was actually around it. eheh. :)

janni (janni), Friday, 7 February 2003 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, I almost went to Northwestern SOLELY to be in Chicago and thus closer to Wax Trax!. However, they were starting to fizzle by the time I started applying and that idea fizzled with it.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 February 2003 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

five years pass...

should i get the black box comp? or is there a better one? wax trax discogs page is fairly impenetrable

rio (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

I like Black Box because it showcases a bit more of the early history when the label had no plan or mission at all. On the other hand, it showcases the ass end of the Al-J.-owned era, too.

The label then got really interesting once Al J sold his shares of the label, and the label didn't fall back into the whole Electronic Body Music Class of 1989. Then the label died.

So, I'd get Black Box if it's really cheap. It's hit/miss. One could do a better Wax Trax! comp of the "Wax Trax! sound" years though.. like 1983-1989.

Anyone want to create a label playlist here?

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

off the top of my head:

Ministry "Halloween Remix"
Front 242 "Headhunter v1.0"
My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult "A Daisy Chain 4 Satan"
KMFDM "More And Faster"
Acid Horse "No Name No Slogan"
Revolting Cocks "No Devotion"
Pailhead "Man Should Surrender"
PTP "Rubber Glove Seduction"
Greater Than One "I Don't Need God"

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, 1000 Homo DJs "Supernaut"

Basically, get the Ministry "Side Trax" compilation, and this covers much of the best of Wax Trax! in the 'prime' years.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

and one more: Meat Beat Manifesto "God O.D. (12" mix)"

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

Funnily enough, Jim always insisted that he was not putting out "dance music".

xpost * anyone know the whereabouts of Andy Dunkley? Tell him his friends in Chicago miss him.

factcheckr, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 01:27 (twelve years ago) link

I have written it on another thread, but I think Lard's "The Last Temptation of Reid" has the only songs Jello Biafra sung that I really liked by him outside the Dead Kennedys (although I have read good things on the album with the Melvins).

Forkboy is a great tune, one of Jourgensen and Barker's best. It won't ever happen unless you put it together yourself, but if there was a 'greatest hits' that went between all of those guys projects on one or two CDs, it would be really fantastic and would probably best some up their music.

I never could listen to their CDs front to back, but KMFDM's "A Drug Against War" was one I always liked.

earlnash, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 05:14 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

RIP label co-founder Dannie Flesher.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't know much about the person, but what a label. RIP.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...


Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 22:42 (ten years ago) link


too bad I don't live in Chicago tho

DJP, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:28 (ten years ago) link

A bit late to the original CD/SD, but: destroy Psykosonik. Cringworthy JACK YOUR MEAT INTO CUBESPACE sub-sub-Gibson lyrics, and one of them went on to be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vox_Day";>this waste of skin</a>.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:39 (ten years ago) link

"Unlearn" was a great song, tho

DJP, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:57 (ten years ago) link

Seems like he took the lesson of it to heart.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:01 (ten years ago) link

ten years pass...

I really recommend the Wax Trax documentary that came out not too long ago. Just saw it and it made me appreciate this scene/sound I once took for granted, in part because I got here more or less as the label started its decline. Some great clips. Here's a trailer:


Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 January 2022 00:45 (five days ago) link

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