If I wanted to get great renditions of Cole Porter songs all in one place, or over a few CDs, what would you recommend?

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I know it's widely agreed on, and probably doesn't need to be repeated, but Cole Porter really was amazing. Is there any relatively compact way for me to acquire good recordings of most of the songs he wrote? I think there's an Ella sings the Cole Porter catalog set, but I'm not sure I want to go with her renditions, which I'm afraid might be "overinterpreted," so to speak. Anyway, what's good?

(Inspired by Frank Sinatra's "Anything Goes.")

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 2 February 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ella's Cole Porter Songbook is IMO the best collection of and tribute to Porter around. If by "overinterpreted" you mean she's scatting, she doesn't do anything like that. Strong focus on the lyrics, beautiful phrasing - I thinki it is the place to start. Actually inspired me to go put it on now.

H (Heruy), Sunday, 2 February 2003 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

actually it's easily my favourite ella record: i think the weight of the songs (and the project as a whole) reins her back towards being a singer at the command of the material (rather than a jazz singer IN command of the material)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 February 2003 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

but it IS a repositioning in terms of "original intent" i think: a mid-50s Album (rare and v.precise correct usage of this term) of the highest class standards by the greatest singer of same, as opposed to any indication of the spirit/context they were written in the 20s and 30s, a far wilder, darker, less "grown-up" and more cynical time

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 February 2003 16:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Try "Night and Day" and "I Get a Kick Out of You: Cole Porter Songbook Vol. 2," both being compilations of varying pop and jazz vocalists from the past. "Red Hot + Blue: A Tribute to Cole Porter," has more contemporary artists like Tom Waits, Sinead O'Connor and U2.

jazzbo (jmcgaw), Sunday, 2 February 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Overinterpreted" was somewhat sloppy of me, but yes, essentially I was wondering if she goes off and does her scat thing (which does do that much for me). I think I'm sold on buying that Ella collection at some point then. I have definitely heard some things by her that I like.

mark s, can you recommend any good recordings of Cole Porter from the 20's and 30's that capture the spirit of that time.

jazzbo, I think I mostly want to stay away from current pop renditions, but will look into the first two compilations you mention.

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 2 February 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Another very strong endorsement here for the Ella set...

Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 2 February 2003 16:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Try "Night and Day" and "I Get a Kick Out of You: Cole Porter Songbook Vol. 2," both being compilations of varying pop and jazz vocalists from the past

Seconded on both.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 2 February 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

sadly it is not at all my area of expertise rockist: i have some CD collections of gershwin material from those dates (78s, piano rolls etc), but it's not that special => part of the problem being that the recording medium of choice for this kind of music wz still sheetmusic not disc, and no one in the "pop" recording arena (ie, inc all jazz, as opposed to classical) was interested in writer-based projects of recording at that date

having said that, i'd be astonished if there WEREN'T collections of 78s on CD which related to particularly broadway shows: i just don't know how good they'd be

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 February 2003 17:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

i think i was over-scrupulously responding to a super-subtle reading of "interpretation", which would therefore rule out 80s or 90s "authentic music" recreations of 20s or 30s broadway shows => not that i own any of these or know whether such things exist (i can't believe they don't)

i'm talking lots without being at all helpful, sorry

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 February 2003 17:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

But I'm wondering if there wouldn't be compilations made now of say, outstanding realizations of Cole Porter songs from the 20's and 30's. I wasn't necessarily thinking of Cole Porter only collections made in that actual time period.

Rockist Scientsit, Sunday, 2 February 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

someone who knows what they're talking abt needs to take over from me here!!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 February 2003 17:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

How's her Gershwin joint?

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 2 February 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

oddly enough, i went out looking for cole porter stuff yesterday. i got a bit lost amdist the surfeit of compilations and didn't end up with anything, but there were a few volumes of a series called "you're sensational" that i'll probably get at a later date. they contain material from his early shows (paris, the new yorkers, wake up and dream, etc) and apparently feature some original broadway recordings.

lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 2 February 2003 18:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

this naxos comp might be a cheap place to start, rockist. be forewarned though that in addition to representative-of-the-era renditions it has a lot of porter singing his own material, which is rather an acquired taste (ok: his singing is awful), and available elsewhere on "porter sings!"-type collections - quite revelatory but maybe not the kind of "outstanding" you're after.

i'll also second the ella recommendations - mark's first response sums it up perfectly.

i'm not wild about those v/a "complete songbook" comps - even if the 50's/60's interpretations have become the definitive take on cp, there's something grating in the Sophisticated Genius lovesong angle - everything is so forcefully "classy". (i guess because it's totally wilfully INcomplete - you wind up with fred astaire AND ella doing "night and day" but none of the odder "what a nice municipal park"/"when me mowgli love"-type numbers). they do contain some great versions though from d.washington, sarah vaughn, blossom dearie etc.

jones (actual), Sunday, 2 February 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

the three cd complete cole porter songbooks...do they licence non-Verve stuff?

Overinterpreted
on nearly all the songbooks I find Ella pretty transparent. Mark's comments seem to hit it on the head. Unlike, say, Billie Holiday there's no "biography" in there.

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

I probably shouldn't have used that word. (Inicidentally, I love the way Billie Holiday puts her stamp on the songs she sings. The only jazz singer I am really crazy about, though perhaps that will change. I'm not sure she'd be my first choice to sing Cole Porter songs, though, I have to admit.)

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Fitzgerald is nice but perhaps a little too somber. (Although it's interesting to hear a version of "Miss Otis Regrets" that presents it as serious tragedy rather than cartoonish farce...)

I don't know if it's still in print or what, but there's a 4-disc set called "From This Moment On" that has a variety of people singing Porter's songs from the 20s on to about the 80s. It includes a few of the Fitzgerald recordings as well as a few of Porter singing the songs himself (and I rather like his versions). There are a lot of terrific tracks on here -- maybe 1/4 of it is wonderful, the rest pretty good and only a few bum tracks. It sounds like what you're looking for (if it's in your budget and it's available).

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jones is OTM. I appreciate many of Porter's songs best in renditions from before he became canonized as a Great American Songwriter.

Rockist Scientist: the Indiana Historical Society released two box sets in the early '90s, entitled You're the Top: Cole Porter in the '30s and You're Sensational: Cole Porter in the '20s, 40's & '50s. Unfortunately despite outward appearances the sets do not always contain the original recordings of the songs in question, and recordings from several decades are jumbled together; the songs are organized chronically by the year of their composition. Still the recordings chosen are often ace and the notes are voluminous.

I think your best bet would be one of the compilations on the nostlagia specialty labels. My choices would be the two volumes of The Ultimate Cole Porter on Pearl--'30s-vintage original cast recordings from Anything Goes... some Astaire and Gertie Lawrence as well.

The Naxos comp mentioned above looks a bit dubious from a listening standpoint, despite the presence of the heavenly Lee Wiley.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 3 February 2003 01:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

No more, no more! (Just kidding.)

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 3 February 2003 01:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love Ella, but her heartfelt readings are not always what Porter's songs require. (She's more in her element with Rodgers & Hart and Gershwin.) The box sets that Amateurist recommends are very good, but by far the best interpreter of Cole Porter is Sinatra: His world-weariness dovetails perfectly with Porter's. Look for Sinatra Sings the Select Cole Porter (on Capitol), the perfect introduction (and it contains "Anything Goes").

Burr, Monday, 3 February 2003 03:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Actually, I have Sinatra singing "Anything Goes" on Songs for Swingin' Lovers. I might actually be developing a taste for Sinatra.)

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 3 February 2003 03:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like the stuff that the Smithsonian put out, I think it's deleted, but maybe you can find it somewhere.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 3 February 2003 04:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

five months pass...
I bought Ella Fitzgerald's Cole Porter Songbook album, and I think it's great. This is my first listen, though of course I'm sure I've heard some of these recordings before (in restaurants, or whatever). It's nice to hear a reputatedly great album which I like and which seems as great as its reputation. The only real drawback for me is that sometimes I like it despite the string section, but I just have an issue with most string sections, and it's not enough to really detract from my enjoyment of her singing and the songs themselves. I expect to buy the rest of her songbook collections, as well as her recordings with Chick Webb, plus some other Cole Porter recordings. I think I'm very ready for this sort of material right now, and I think it's likely to push something else aside (since I can't buy everything).

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

This is one of the most exciting CDs I've bought this year.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

It's kind of sad that the song playing right now I recognize, but from a twisted around version used in a car or airline commercial or something of the sort.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

rockist: buy the box! it works out cheaper...(i got mine for $170 aust)

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 01:10 (twenty years ago) link

I want the new remasters though.

I feel like I'm cheating on Billie Holiday, but I guess she's used to that.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 01:14 (twenty years ago) link

new remasters? o! mine sound fine anyway.

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

Re: the Sinatra suggestion, I'm just not that keen on Sinatra. I like him much more than I did ten or fifteen years ago, but I still find him a little offputting. More tolerable on those rare cases when I've danced to his songs than for simple listening purposes.

gaz (crosspost), I don't know. I thought I read somewhere that the box set that brings all the songbooks together didn't have quite as good a sound quality as more recent issues of individual songbooks. I think maybe I read it on rec.music.bluenote. But I don't know how old that information was. I'm no audiophile, but I have been frusrated enough with poor CD reissues that I would rather get the best (as long as it is not outrageously expensive). Some of these Latin CD reissues, especially on the Vaya label--but pretty much all of the 70's era major Latin labels, are really poorly done, in a way that is noticeable. I dread the thought that I may be replacing them all with real remastered CDs one of these days. But then again, I also dread the thought that they will never be properly reissued.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

the box set is one of those things where it's so much music that you're all too likely to miss a big chunk of it out of sheer exhaustion.

i had a dream the other night where i was studying the writing styles of porter and other great american songwriters. i remember deciding, with utter certitude and great clarity, that gershwin was better than porter. upon waking i realized this was hardly a revelation. which is not to diminish porter.

i think it's because i was watching "silk stockings" that night.

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 01:37 (twenty years ago) link

where did lauren go? i miss her (his?) good taste in music and movies.

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

rockist: that might be true, i dunno. i used to have the songbooks on vinyl too, and was amazed at how great they sounded, even when i dubbed tapes for friends.

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 03:22 (twenty years ago) link

Amateurist I just watched Silk Stockings last night!

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 03:29 (twenty years ago) link

Cyd Charisse was loverly

RS - Glad you liked the Ella. if you're gonna get more of the Songbooks start with either the Gershwin or the Rodgers & Hart. The Gershwin is amazing but is HUGE so might be a little overwhelming, when I first got it took me forever to get through the whole thing. however, if you want to lose yourself in it, would perhaps be ideal.

H (Heruy), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 07:21 (twenty years ago) link

i'm in london right now, amateurist, drowning in music with no time for good movies (sob). lots of crazy work and travel means that i mainly lurk these days, but hopefully i'll be more present when i return to nyc in a few days...

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:04 (twenty years ago) link

twelve years pass...

forgive my ignorance, but what Cole Porter song is being played in this Clickhole video?

small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Sunday, 17 January 2016 00:47 (eight years ago) link

anyone?

small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link

full disclosure I had to use my phone app. this is a joek I guess.

Van Der Beek's masterpiece (rip van wanko), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link

ha, well I appreciate the effort, and it is the same song, though it apparently has nothing to do with Cole Porter.

small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:45 (eight years ago) link

right

Van Der Beek's masterpiece (rip van wanko), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:49 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Y Kant U B-have?

PiL Communication (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link

five years pass...

I finally dug out Red Hot and Blue album and normally I am pretty jaded but I quite like it, Annie Lennox in particular but I am still working my way through it.

Any other suggestions of post-1980 versions would be welcome.

Night of Olay: The Resurrection (I M Losted), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 22:43 (two years ago) link

The full film is here. It’s remarkable how little seen this was. Also a fascinating time capsule IMO

https://vimeo.com/46642017

piscesx, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 23:30 (two years ago) link


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