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what do they sound like ?

is their title of "the 00's iron maiden" really merited ?

gene hackman, Friday, 31 January 2003 02:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Considering that they sound nothing like Iron Maiden, no. Not necessarily a bad thing though (there are enough In Flames clones in the world).

Think Suffocation with middle eastern influences. They're not about to set the world of radio aflame anytime soon (also not necessarily a bad thing).

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Alan

Alan Conceicao, Friday, 31 January 2003 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, outside of having songs about Egypt, they have nothing in common with Maiden. And really, haven't most metal bands written a song about Egypt at one time or another?

original bgm, Friday, 31 January 2003 05:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Indeed, Suffocation-worship is pretty much what they sound like, New York Death Metal all the way. Very technical, wall-of-sound production, basic no-nonsense barking vocals, chaotic solos here and there and some dissonant riffing, but nothing too experimental - they tend to write catchy riffs & actual songs rather than going the Canadian way. The Egyptian theme is the icing on the cake, but they don't really need that.

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 31 January 2003 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course all I can think of is early Pink Floyd...

"I WAS WALKING DOWN THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLEEEE..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 January 2003 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Saw these at the LA2 about 2 months back and they were boring! I was expecting a bit more of a stage-show, especially considering the Egyptian influences but no they just stood and played their songs and nobody moved and a couple of people moshed and then they stopped. Boring!

dog latin, Friday, 31 January 2003 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, that's death metal for you - I haven't seen any DM band with any sort of big stage show with theatrics & all. Although some bands like Vader, Deicide, Morbid Angel and Cryptopsy have a lot more charisma on stage than Nile (they're pretty shy & modest guys off stage anyway), virtually all DM shows boil down to no-frills just-the-music affairs - the fact that most of the music is so demanding technically that it doesn't leave much room for the musicians to walk or jump around and do all kinds of silly stuff a la Kiss/Korn/Venom/Motorhead probably contributes too.

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course all I can think of is Nile Rodgers.

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

(Gene you were great in Antz, btw.)

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course all I can think of is Nile Rodgers.

And oysters on the half shell and roller skates? MMMM. Sounds worthy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned: CLAMS on the half shell! And Roller Skates! And Roller Skates!

matt riedl (veal), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Bah! Bivalves nonetheless.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's "I WAS STANDING BY THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLEEEE..."

Anyway, "Tell me why I had to be a powerslave, I don't wat to die I'm a god why can't I live on?"

mei (mei), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

See, this is why I don't like lyrics!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Nile a while ago too. In London, I think it might have been the same LA2 show. Saw Vader a while back too, also In London, and I much preferred them. Their guitar sound was awesome I think even their tune up guy got applause. They had neat support too, one of which was called 'Dew Scented'.

A Death Metal band called Dew Scented, wehatever next?

mei (mei), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...
Regardless of the digressions above -- so Relapse sent me a copy of their latest album. Do the other metal dudes here on the board have anything to add to the descriptions above from Siegbran?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

One thing that sets them apart from all the other endorse-an-esoteric-religion
metal bands is that they really do know their shit about Egyptology.

shieldforyoureyes, Sunday, 8 May 2005 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link

that song "unas, slayer of the gods" from in their darkened shrines PWNS.

latebloomer: the rebel sound of grits and bacon (latebloomer), Monday, 9 May 2005 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Hm, well, this album has some moments I guess.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmmm. I saw them like, a couple weeks back as part of New England Metalfest (which was oddly the first metal show I've seen in 2 years). They were okay, not really anything wildly different from what they've done in the past. About the most innovative thing between then and now that the WAV samples were now triggered by a panel on Karl's guitar instead of seeing the dude walk behind the drum riser and play around with his Windows based laptop.

My addendum to my reply of two years ago would be:

Imagine Morbid Angel on the Formulas album. Slightly more Egyptian influence. More mosh parts. Occasionally, when they're no longer interested, they do the typical Florida/California thing right now and surge into Drum Olympics, where they just play really fast for like, 4 minutes, and stop.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I like the ambient moments the best.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Karl Sanders (Nile's chief songwriter/guitarist) actually had an entire album of ambient type stuff in that vein, Ned. I never heard any of it, and while I really like my drone, I'm not entirely sure I want to.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I keep wishing this thread WAS about Nile Rodgers!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I think a whole album of it would be a bit much -- it seems to work for them best as interruptions.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Regardless of the digressions above -- so Relapse sent me a copy of their latest album. Do the other metal dudes here on the board have anything to add to the descriptions above from Siegbran?

Yeah, the record sounds like a cut-and-paste from your favorite Digital Audio Workstation. And here are the loops of the evil
robot from Egypt vocals we've been compiling for the last six years. And here are the loops of the double kick bass that sound like someone pressed a button that said "really fast double kick bass that no one but a robot can play." And here's the title of a song taken from my library of H. P. Lovecraft. All very seamless and competent and perfectly stitched together machine-like, but a dumb machine, not a smart one. Cover art is tremendous, as usual. They had a record of demos on Relapse years ago and I liked that more as they had not yet turned into Egyptian cyborgs.

Actual headline of Nile feature in UCSD student newspaper, taken from press kit: "Nile resurrects death metal: Band is seeped in Egyptain mysticsm." And, nope, those aren't my errors. [Picture of journalism prof ripping what's left of his hair out, omitted.]

The King Diamond/Nile metal show went through my old hometown and my pal who is really into "the King" had tickets. When they showed at the venue, "the King" had bailed on the night due to illness. Given the option of hearing Nile, passed. Maybe he should have stayed. I dunno.

George Smith, Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

And here are the loops of the double kick bass that sound like someone pressed a button that said "really fast double kick bass that no one but a robot can play.

I noticed that and thought, "Hmmm..." (I figured the Lovecraft goes without saying.) Cover art, yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I had the same reaction to the drumming, and I thought I was being a pussy for thinking that way!

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

ROCK
ROBOT ROCK

NYER NYER... (Ned), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

>"really fast double kick bass that no one but a robot can play."<

YAY DRUM TRIGGERS

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

there are already ten new death metal albums i have heard this year that i like more than the new nile. it's just kinda boring. and ned is right. the deathfolk stuff is the best stuff on the album.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 13 May 2005 00:20 (fifteen years ago) link

:-) Scott Seward, please to share your list of ten preferred albums?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 May 2005 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

some deathers really hate Nile. I get that they're not really in the highest echelon of DM but the "they always make the same album" criticism seems particularly weird in a genre whose fans routinely put albums by aging DM acts who merely stay in their lane in their annual top ten lists.

I do enjoy these dudes, I have seen them a bit too much live and their sound is a bit compressed even live, but I've been a fan since I was first getting into DM and managed to see them on their Black Seeds of Vengeance tour before I was even old enough to drink.

never quite understood the "they should put more of the Egyptian flavor into their music", like even the superior Melechesh still is ostensibly death metal on top of the Mesopotamian stuff.

also "Kafir" is a banger

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 April 2018 01:13 (two years ago) link

in "Stones of Sorrow" it sounds like he's shouting "GEPETTO! GEPETTO! GEPETTO!"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 April 2018 01:15 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

dig the new one more than I did the last one. feel like this band is impervious to the effects of lineup changes, largely due to Sanders.

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 04:20 (seven months ago) link

I recently wrote a death metal primer for The Wire and figured I had to include an album by these guys since they are so beloved in da scene. I chose In Their Darkened Shrines, and said:

Nile...are the product of one man’s obsessions. Guitarist Karl Sanders likes two things: death metal and ancient Egypt, and his band’s music combines blazingly fast riffs and machine-gun drumming with occasional passages of Middle Eastern instrumentation, and some orchestral flourishes here and there. What sets Nile apart, though, is Sanders’ willingness to go big. “Unas, Slayer Of The Gods” is nearly 12 minutes long, and In Their Darkened Shrines’ title piece is a four-part suite running over 19 minutes, and in each case the scale actually yields results.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14:16 (seven months ago) link

seven months pass...

Listening to At the Gate of Sethu rn and fuck i love this stuff

I had a cd of theirs that never seemed to fully sound present, maybe overly compressed or something. Was it In Their Darkened Shrines. Always seemed to be a bit distant no matter hwo loud i had it. So wonder if it was a dodgy copy or the production on the lp. Did like them overall though i think.
THink I pickled up another 2 or 3 cds by them but not listened in quite a while.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 07:08 (one week ago) link


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