― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Colin O, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
I'd say the first 5 albums are great, 'Cosmo's Factory' is no dud. Long 'Grapevine' guitar solo and all.
They are the bollocks. Rocked as hard as the Stones at their best. 'Green River' and 'Willie and the poor boys' can stand happily alongside the likes of 'Let it bleed' or 'Beggar's Banquet'.
And you're right about the great singles. I came across them through 'Chronicle' which is as good an introduction as any.
― James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― the Creedence Cavalry (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― tigerclawskank, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jesse Fox (Jesse Fox), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Squirlplise, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Fivvy, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― cecilia, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Wouldn't that be great? Part of me suspects that something about CCR doesn't translate well for the British ILMers tho... someone prove me wrong!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Along with half of Canada.
Still CCR are klassik, rockist or not.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm still dreaming of some to-be-discovered bootleg recording of like a 20 minute live freakout jam on "Keep On Chooglin'"....
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
On principle of what, disliking good music?
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Take Willy and the Poor Boys--Poorboy Shuffle and Side O' the Road are throwaways.
Green River--same goes for Cross Tie Walker, Sinister Purpose, Night Time is the Right Time.
I just remember really really loving the greatest hits when I was a kid. And then buying all the albums, and liking them, but being slightly disappointed that there weren't any real amazing finds beyond the singles.
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
No way, I think all those songs are great, just as strong as the singles. The harmonies on "Night Time" are this really strong, deep thing. "Sinister Purpose" is totally creepy, it's like a prelude to a murder down by the river or something.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
you could say the same of "Factory Girl" and "Dear Doctor," too, though I agree that CCR's albums aren't as good as the Stones'. oh, and the answer is TOTAL CLASSIC.
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
And I was going to make the point about the Stones, but Matos made it for me. Except that I would have mentioned "Country Honk", and that he is TOTALLY wrong about "Factory Girl". That is one of the high points of that lp! It was great when they dug it up for the Steel Wheels tour...
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link
(Also, the thing that makes songs like Dear Doctor et al more interesting to me is that they are not done straight--Jagger always has a distance from the material, and the lyrics themselves are somewhat ambiguous/parodistic, which makes the songs a bit more interesting since you don't know how seriously to take them)
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link
As to yr main point -- I agree that the influx of country and mountain music is more important and successful with CCR than it is the Stones (although the Stones' double country whammy of "Dead Flowers" and "Sweet Virginia" kicks all of CCR's ass halfway to Modesto), but CCR's blues infusion feels kinda weak to me. I'm thinking of the middle bits of Willy & the Poor Boys here, and while Johnny can do a fair sharecropper impression with that yelp of his, it falls flat. It just seems that the Stones wanted to get the Negro strut down more than anything (which Mick still works at but Keith was born with), to get the style and the feel, while CCR went for the sound, but not the emotion. Maybe this is why CCR is so commonly identified as a very "white" band? (I'm thinking of the Big Lebowski and White Men Can't Jump (Snipes hassles Woody for them, doesn't he?) in particular)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link
On principle of not relating to rootsy Americana trad-rock boredom, which then gets shoved in your face as real authentic 'good' music. The whole rough-and-ready meat-and-potatoes-ness of it all. Of hating country music like any well-adjusted person. Like I said, though, they don't actually sound that bad. It's all pettiness.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
Clarke just butted in but I know what he means about the aura.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― mosurock (mosurock), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Tracer roxor as always, even if I do think the Stones were ultimately a...not "better" but greater band, if you see what I mean--wider ranging (counts for a lot w/me, Prince was my formative listening) and more chance-taking. CCR's more perfect but the Stones had greater outreach. love 'em both about equally in that way
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link
You can't say something like "I dislike them on principle", on this board of all places, and not expect to be called out on the meaninglessness of the statement unless you define your terms.
Of hating country music like any well-adjusted person
Color me ill-adjusted.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
great record! maybe their most fun. almost every tune is one of the best rock songs of the sixties
― marcos, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:57 (four years ago) link
midnight special is prob my favorite
Put a candle in the window
― calstars, Friday, 27 July 2018 23:47 (three years ago) link
Just saw Lorraine, she says hi
― calstars, Sunday, 30 December 2018 19:21 (three years ago) link
Probably synced after the fact, but I've never seen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aae_RHRptRg
― clemenza, Thursday, 20 February 2020 17:44 (two years ago) link
What happy fellows. Born on the bayou with leather trousers on.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 February 2020 17:48 (two years ago) link
Love this band. "Willy the Poor Boys" is still my favorite, but it especially gets a lot of play around election time thanks to "It Came Out of the Sky," "Don't Look Now," "Fortunate Son" and "Effigy." Fogerty wrote some the sharpest political commentary in rock, maybe the best before the punk era.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 20 February 2020 23:17 (two years ago) link
Someone in the official Tom Fogerty FB group shared this photo of the band from October 1980, at Tom’s wedding. They played a few songs that night, first CCR performance since 1972. First quartet performance since 1970, and the last ever. pic.twitter.com/bPRCKWn6Q2— John Lingan (@johnlingan) May 24, 2020
You stare at this photo and ask yourself, “Could John Fogerty possibly improve upon this look? Could he more effectively convey that it’s 1980?” And the clouds part and a beam of heavenly light delivers you this. pic.twitter.com/Py944VxSrz— John Lingan (@johnlingan) May 24, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:40 (one year ago) link
OMG. Feel like I am related to several people in that picture.
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:42 (one year ago) link
i want to live inside that photo
― budo jeru, Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:47 (one year ago) link
I am flashing back to when I did live in it.
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:49 (one year ago) link
I can smell the Salems on that leather jacket.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:54 (one year ago) link
lol. I remember that moment when being a kid when I was old enough to borrow books from the adult section of the library and noticed that some of the more popular blockbusters in the 7-Days Only section had a strong smell to them which it took me quite a long time to identify as cigarette odor.
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:07 (one year ago) link
Forgerty playing an Explorer!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:28 (one year ago) link
Afterwards he had it cut down into a baseball bat.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:29 (one year ago) link
lol
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:38 (one year ago) link
revive delivers
― sleeve, Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:40 (one year ago) link
Other guitar player in the amber-tinted glasses totally looks like my uncle who was smoking up his branch's copies of those Martin Caidin el al protectively-covered hardbacks whose daughter became a librarian.
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:44 (one year ago) link
insane to me that i didn't have this thread bookmarked.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 24 May 2020 18:02 (one year ago) link
Too cool for a suit eh And yeah I can totally smell that jacket. And hear it.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 24 May 2020 18:30 (one year ago) link
Get out the good ashtrays, guests are coming!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 24 May 2020 18:31 (one year ago) link
JF looks like he can't wait to bail in both pics
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 24 May 2020 18:33 (one year ago) link
he looks like a character from a cop show of the era
― sleeve, Sunday, 24 May 2020 18:33 (one year ago) link
Evokes the decade about as well as this tune does the previoushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO9ekL9lohk
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 18:33 (one year ago) link
cool shit!
― calstars, Sunday, 24 May 2020 19:05 (one year ago) link
There’s an official Tom Fogerty FB page...
― Sam Weller, Sunday, 24 May 2020 19:14 (one year ago) link
Er, group. I mean, I’m just trying to process that one exists. Great pics, obv.
― Sam Weller, Sunday, 24 May 2020 19:15 (one year ago) link
WTF? Tom Fogerty made FIVE solo albums between '72 & '81!
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 May 2020 19:22 (one year ago) link
"shipped gold, returned platinum"
― sleeve, Sunday, 24 May 2020 19:46 (one year ago) link
I just had a brief flick through some Tom solo tracks, 'harmless' is what I take away from his post-Creedence career.
― while the city bleeps (Matt #2), Sunday, 24 May 2020 20:01 (one year ago) link
i like-a way you woaki like-a way you toak
― mookieproof, Friday, 29 May 2020 22:44 (one year ago) link
John Fogerty, 75 years young yesterday!
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Friday, 29 May 2020 23:04 (one year ago) link
keep returning to the woodstock set, its so so SO GOOD
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 19 July 2021 18:09 (nine months ago) link
it really is
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 19 July 2021 20:04 (nine months ago) link
Lodi is their best song
― calstars, Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:50 (six months ago) link
Nope. Green River
― calstars, Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:52 (six months ago) link
ramble tamble or pagan baby
― caddy lac brougham? (will), Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:57 (six months ago) link
Someday never fucking comes
― calstars, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:02 (six months ago) link
Nope not that one
― calstars, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:04 (six months ago) link
Old man down the road vs centerfield
― calstars, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:07 (six months ago) link
Run through the Jungle!!!
But yeah Lodi is definitely up there.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 24 October 2021 01:32 (six months ago) link
Pretty remarkable the vibe they work up on Bayou with just a tremolo effect on the guitar and a single 7th chord. Guess that’s a testament to the rhythm section
― calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 01:43 (six months ago) link
classic
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 October 2021 03:58 (six months ago) link
A lot of it comes directly from Pop Staples, no? Which I believe may be discussed upthread.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 October 2021 04:01 (six months ago) link
Not this thread but a Fogerty sibling thread
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 October 2021 04:06 (six months ago) link
Around the Bendmidnight specialsomeday never comesrun through the jungle
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 24 October 2021 04:48 (six months ago) link
Apparently there’s a 2016 thriller film called midnight special starring Michael Shannon and Kirsten dunst???. “Shannon plays a father who escapes with his son from both the government and a cult after they discover that his son has special powers.l”
― calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 10:08 (six months ago) link
indeed
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 October 2021 10:10 (six months ago) link
I've seen it, but that's all I can really say about it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 24 October 2021 11:52 (six months ago) link
Have you seen Lorraine?
― calstars, Saturday, 14 May 2022 19:15 (four days ago) link