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I've been going crazy over Vision Creation Newsun lately, so tell me more, people who know...

tinobeat (tinobeat), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

search: super roots 7 & 8, super AE, rebore v.0, dj pica pica pica

destroy: the early stuff never really did much for me.

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

what jess said

plus VCN EP, Super Goooooo!, Super Roots 6 and there you have it.

gygax!, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

More here.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, YES, please, this would be a good idea. The girl I was DJ-ing with on Saturday (hi, Frances, if you ever read this...) played a Boredoms track which was utterly MENTAL and had me bouncing around like a rabid ferret. Crazy all-over-the-place Can/Faust style Krautrock buy played with a mind-boggling HEAVINESS that would make Zep or Deep Purple look like Belle and Sebastian. So if anyone can tell me what to look for, that would be great. Mmmmmmm. I am discovering so much yummy good music at the moment. this makes me happy!

kate, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

vision creation newsun

stirmonster, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i still don't "get" VCN really. but picapicapica/VCN EPs/super AE are all fantastic.

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm no expert. I only have Chocolate Synthesizer, but I love it a whole lot. Why is that album not mentioned? Does it not get the same respect or what?

A.H., Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Never mind. I went and read that other thread.

A.H., Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't like VCN, it sounds like what oasis are gonna be doing in 10 years
jess, what is dj pica pica pica?

gi66y, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

eye's dj project

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

super mash up 190bpm gabba-thrash-klezmer-ocean sounds-tribespeople-popmuzik-core

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

See also Shock City Shockers! Also, dieheard Boredoms fans say Super Roots 5 is a gem (but I don't).

For the early stuff, search Pop Tatari first.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

VCN isn't that good. but i'm sure i'll get around to the early stuff.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

search: dj carhouse and mc hellshit

rave review here which makes them sound like the best thing ever (they are)

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

the cast iron of 'avant rock' is: if pitchfork hates it must be good!

sinkle m (jdesouza), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

refer to gygax...

see also ooioo, rovo, grind orchestra.... ???


msp, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

That MC Hellshit live EP also notable for Yoshihide spinning the same recording of the Chinese national anthem that he uses on Ground Zero's Null & Void.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't like VCN, it sounds like what oasis are gonna be doing in 10 years

in their dreams!

after seeing vcn performed live last year my brain took about three weeks to return to 'normal'.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

where did you see this stirry?

gygax!, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

at the royal festival hall in london with john cale although i had to leave before he came on. i dragged a friend along who knew nothing about the boredoms and he was literally speechless at the end. DRUMS!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

btw, gygax, I'm guessing you saw the thing about no Vooredoms album this year in the yahoo group? Dang.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Chocolate Synthesizer. In fact, "Synthesizer Guidebook on Fire" is one of my fave track-title combos by anybody.

Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

actually the drums on vcn are nice but i approached it as some superthrashapocalypticanimejapanoisesmackysexpunkfunkspunkhardcore mess and was dissapointed with the acoustic noises

so really my question is: on which album do i look and find that shit?

gi66y, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

considering the source on that list, i'm not sure what i believe.

gygax!, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link


Who was the source? I was wondering how accurate that info was myself.

die9o (dhadis), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

a friend of a friend of a friend of someone at warner japan or something.

gygax!, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link


I'd say Chocolate Synthesizer.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Super ae is the best record ever. I love _Soul Discharge_ in a totally different way...

I still remember hearing "Michidai"/"Fuanteidai" for the first time and picking my jaw up off the floor.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link

hey kate!

it is I, Frances. getting onto this thread way too late I, the thing I played was Vision Creation Newsun. If you heard me on Resonance last night, I was playing Super Are, off Super Ae. Yeah, get both of these albums, and MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL go see the Boredoms live.

I'm sure you have been told this many a time already. But that's because it's true. Live, they have this intense aura of of gonzo wisdom that completely blows my mind (man). And, like 'stirmonster' says, DRUMS! Drums that will make you dance like a mandrill on too much ibogane.

Anyways, was good to meet you the other night! F

FMM (Mr Binturong), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link

As much as I like Super Ae and VCN, Soul Discharge is still my favorite Boredoms. Sure it's probably too weird for most people, but for making you bust a gut laughing while making your jaw drop in awe, there's nothing else quite like it.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Soul Discharge seems to be the best of the early Boredoms stuff, which I never really liked all that much either. Certain tracks seem much heavier than any later material from that era, tho I'll admit I haven't looked into it much at all, so I could be wrong.

But VCN, Super Ae, and Super Roots 7 are all untouchable. I'm liking the new Seiichi Yamamoto album too, but it's nothing like those others. (very quiet/pretty)

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Certain tracks seem much heavier than any later material from that era

I'm not sure what you mean by "heavier" but Soul Discharge was less "heavy" in the usual rock sense (loud guitars, pounding drums, riffage) than the early Boredoms material that preceded it, on which they sounded more than a bit like a Japanese Butthole Surfers.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

SOUL DISCHARGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ddb, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not sure what you mean by "heavier" but Soul Discharge was less "heavy" in the usual rock sense (loud guitars, pounding drums, riffage) than the early Boredoms material that preceded it, on which they sounded more than a bit like a Japanese Butthole Surfers.

This may be what I'm thinking of then. Like I said, my early Boredoms knowledge is not so hot.

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Search: VCN & Super AE
Destroy: Pop Tatari & Chocolate Synthesizer

Juan (Juan), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I like Chocolate Synthesizer, which I just got recently. They manage to pick out a lot of the best bits of punk and thrash (I don't even know what that is, but I think I sort of do know anyway), just going right for the fun part, without any context as an excuse. Hearing some of this, I find myself thinking: "Oh yeah, that's what I liked about punk when I first started hearing it." Not that its sources are limited to punk. I could get tired of the constant shuffling around though. We'll see.

(I hear a lot of echoes of the Butthole Surfers here, but maybe that's because they just happen to the band closest to this sort of thing that I have listened to the most in the last ten years.)

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 28 March 2003 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Do you think they are trying to imitate Porky Pig (among other things) on the last track of Chocolate Synthesizer?

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 30 May 2003 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I am ten years too late to talk about Chocolate Synthesizer.

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 30 May 2003 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link

It is IMPOSSIBLE to find anything other than Super AE and *maybe* VCN here.

The super punk ethics shop won't carry major label albums.
The hardcore store only carries hardcore.
The indie stores only carry YYY's, White Stripes, Sonic Youth and Flaming Lips.
Newbury Comics has gotten me the aforementioned albums + one OOIOO CD
The mall CD stores? HAHAHAHAHA

Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 30 May 2003 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Pbbbblllltttt.... the Boredoms, like, I don't know, basically made me love music again.

The last two albums are INSANE in their greatness. I mean, I loved the noise stuff to a degree but fuck.. vision indeed.

I think those bastards are just waiting around to release a big ole Super Roots box set. Or maybe not. Either way I need all the Super Roots. Anyone that wantsta trade, please email...

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 30 May 2003 06:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I have those, Mr. Diamond, if you want to trade.

dleone (dleone), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I only know Vision Creation Newsun but FUCK ME is it infuckingcredible.

Where do I go from there tho? It seems thay're totally different every record they make, which is thoroughly commendable but not a little daunting.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Buy Super Ae next for sure.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link

here's my stock response i pasted out of the Boredoms:POO thread cos i'm too luddite to be able to link to it:
yeh - super ae is OK if ye forget the bits that sound like pete townshend circa tommy. perhaps the most amon duul of the reckids they've done. VCN is more or less a 70min cover version of can's "future days" (in a good way). pop tatari and wow2 always strick me as a badly produced heavy amateur metal band like you might see in any pub or student union bar no tunes v. ploddy not "motorik" but het how wacky they got a trumpet player. if you want the kerayzee spazz annoying boredoms the go for soul discharge '77 is good but i like chocolate synthesizer better.

bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

So this is interesting. I'm not suprised about the love here for the "new" boredoms, but I am suprised about the non-rating of the earlier material. I can't help feeling this derives more from some unaccountable current "taste" rather than the quality of the material, i.e. fractured collage art spazz punk is now dated to the 90's while proggy offshoots of the same seem of the moment.

The word "heavy" has come up a lot here, and the other thread talked about "groove". The earlier boredoms had their moments of these, but would subvert the expectations these set up rather than run with them, as the more recent boredoms do. I can see why the latter might make for a more "enjoyable" listening experience. But the earlier boredoms has its own pleasures, even if they aren't related to coherence. My own feeling listening to those records is that they are like a huge disorganized messy pile of brilliant half-realized things. I'd say Chocolate Synthesizer is the apex of this. And it somehow manages to be idiotic and cerebral, funny and serious, arty and artless all at once.

The "new" boredoms go to the opposite extreme--monomaniacal intensity--which somehow makes perfect sense to me. There's an extremity and obsession in ALL their "phases", which give their stylistic shifts a coherence below their surfaces.

So, yes, some of their recordings on their own are probably worth searching over others (I'll defer to above recommendations), but this is also a band that can be appreciated in its totality and (for me, at least) transcends an easy accounting by search and destroy.

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

super ae is OK if ye forget the bits that sound like pete townshend circa tommy.

I assume you're talking about "Super Going", that guitar tone & the Moonian cymbal wash -- that's one of my favorite tracks on the album. But then, I like Tommy too, so hey.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Hisham Baroocha and Klaus Dinger to thread!

Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 30 May 2003 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it's the ploddy chanty bits i was trying to characterize w/ the "tommy" ref. another band: check out ROVO feat seichi yamamoto. v nice trancey jams, also AMON DUUL's "psychedelic underground" (i will say again as caveman percussion style RIPPED!(or coincidentally approximated)), and if you like recent trancey boredoms you should like finnish band CIRCLE also try prospekt / SUNRISE (sunrise their best so far - beware of judas priestness - made up language), and their latest "alotus" mmm tight. if you're in the mood to sit around listenening to cyclical music try somo the NECKS. aquatic / hanging gardens you people might like if ye dinnae already . i dunno

bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

SUNRISE (sunrise their best so far - beware of judas priestness - made up language)

But that's part of why it's so great!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 May 2003 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

if their new stuff sounds like one of Eye's DJ mixes, it'll be the greatest

Dominique, Friday, 9 February 2018 17:37 (three years ago) link

I already want a tattoo of that image.

Fetchboy, Friday, 9 February 2018 17:39 (three years ago) link

I have really missed this band

sleeve, Friday, 9 February 2018 17:42 (three years ago) link


(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:48 (three years ago) link


i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 February 2018 21:38 (three years ago) link

More boredoms anything of any kind would be a fuckin balm

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Friday, 9 February 2018 23:18 (three years ago) link

New Third Eye Foundation and the announcement of new Boredoms on the same day? Fuck yes.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:44 (three years ago) link

Seadrum/House of Sun-era Boredoms drummer EDA has a band called Adreena Adreena and they are playing this Thursday at Iklectik in London, they look pretty interesting, it's EDA playing solo kit and samples/toys with a huge sphere above his head onto which the other member projects images.

MaresNest, Sunday, 11 February 2018 19:49 (three years ago) link

Does anyone know if there are any bootlegs of the legendary Fuji-Rock show that was supposedly so good that it drove Yamamoto to quit?

Fetchboy, Saturday, 17 February 2018 03:26 (three years ago) link

This one?

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 17 February 2018 10:01 (three years ago) link

MaresNest, Saturday, 17 February 2018 12:03 (three years ago) link

Jesus fucking xt that’s good

Does audio exist of the whole set?

I love how totally square Yamamoto always looked. I guess here it was too wa for him to wear chinos and a polo shirt

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 19 February 2018 23:20 (three years ago) link

dear god imagine witnessing that

imago, Monday, 19 February 2018 23:25 (three years ago) link

oh my god

frogbs, Monday, 19 February 2018 23:27 (three years ago) link

I already had more transformative live bore experiences than I deserve

1992 seattle just after PT
Vooredoms the first time I saw that lineup
77 boadrum

All changed my life. Maybe if I’d seen super go 1999 it would have broken my input port

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 19 February 2018 23:30 (three years ago) link

london boadrum was amazing obv yeah but that seems on another level

imago, Monday, 19 February 2018 23:31 (three years ago) link

Yeah it’s like a blinding chimera
Vooredoms but with Yamamoto still there

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 19 February 2018 23:57 (three years ago) link

wow that's great. almost 20 years ago? i'm sure they can't be quite as wild in 2018 (?)

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 00:24 (three years ago) link

easy to make up for it by adding 20 more drummers

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 15:00 (three years ago) link

Tbh after the incredible 2007 there were somewhat diminishing returns for me in the next couple of annual eye rituals.

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 15:02 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Boredoms - Soul Discharge (1989) i've been Eye-ing (ha!) this on vinyl for a while and scooped up a relatively cheap copy off ebay the other day. can't wait to hear it!

Boredoms records are super expensive but this one has such an awesome album cover i've wanted this for years. might have to invest in some Super Roots as well...

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 22 April 2018 22:16 (three years ago) link

Amazing cover

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Sunday, 22 April 2018 22:39 (three years ago) link

That was my intro to boredoms in 91. I could not believe my ears. It was like if mid 80s buttholes got superevolved

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Monday, 23 April 2018 00:15 (three years ago) link

lucky duck!

flappy bird, Monday, 23 April 2018 00:27 (three years ago) link

record came in the mail today. very noisey & freaky! i will cherish this for all time

i looked up a review and ended up on allmusic, reading a review by one Ned Raggett of ILX fame! the guy knows his stuff =)

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 23:15 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

"Yamatsuka Eye had released a solo album full of samples of “The Pod”"

What Eye album is being referenced here?

trux tracker (edges), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 20:21 (two years ago) link

good question!

Z-Rock Hawaii was recorded in 1994 (released two years later) so it must be from then or before, maybe Chocolate Synthesizer or Super Roots?

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 21:20 (two years ago) link

...yet neither of those are eYe solo albums.

It's Hanatarash 4: AIDS-a-delic

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 16 May 2019 13:59 (two years ago) link

sweet, thnx, I don't think I've ever heard 4 or 5

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 16 May 2019 14:04 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

awesome, thanks!

sleeve, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:32 (one year ago) link

listening now, crossposting to NTS thread

sleeve, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:37 (one year ago) link


Skateboard R Deluxe Throwback Edition (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 9 May 2020 13:20 (one year ago) link

that Eye mix is INSANE, pitch-twisted dancehall madness

sleeve, Saturday, 9 May 2020 13:42 (one year ago) link

weren't they supposed to reunite this year or something? 2020 sucks

frogbs, Saturday, 9 May 2020 14:45 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

EYE live audio/visual performance on streaming:

COSMIC LAB presents EXPANDED -Audio Visual XstReam Live Sessions-
OPEN (JST) 19:30
START (JST)20:00
2.7 SUN 20:00 - 2.15 MON 00:00

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 6 February 2021 05:42 (eight months ago) link

Sunday 20:00 JST =
Sunday 3am PST
Sunday 6am EST
Sunday 11am GMT

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 6 February 2021 05:42 (eight months ago) link

Sunday 3am PST

sad lol, noted, thanks

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Saturday, 6 February 2021 05:44 (eight months ago) link

The live listing says it will last for over a week (?) so you may have plenty of time to tune in haha.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 6 February 2021 05:52 (eight months ago) link

looks like it was three hours and change but i think the set is still accessible or for a week if you bought a ticket

watching the eye set now, it’s cool. very digital noise but still the same old eye we all know and love.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 7 February 2021 21:58 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

Super Roots 9 just giving me tingles non stop

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:40 (one month ago) link

i don't like VCN, it sounds like what oasis are gonna be doing in 10 years
― gi66y, Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:24 AM (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

hilarious. i wish

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 14:08 (one month ago) link

The question is, was that a truly steaming take in 2003 or something it was possible to reasonably conceive of.

LTJ Jenkem (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:26 (one month ago) link

No. Not at all conceivable.

Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:02 (one month ago) link

Listening to Schumann’s Rhenish Symphony: “ah this is what 100 gecs will sound like in 10 years”.

Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:04 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

VCN is the greatest album ever made

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Monday, 11 October 2021 21:45 (two weeks ago) link

checks out

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 11 October 2021 21:57 (two weeks ago) link


global tetrahedron, Monday, 11 October 2021 22:21 (two weeks ago) link


And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:48 (two weeks ago) link

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