"Slowcore": Search & Destroy

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I've barely dipped my big toe in this genre, so I'm fairly curious as to what other people enjoy. I quite like Low and Codeine, and I find Bedhead to be very good as well. Is there anything specific I should be on the look out for, either to pick up or avoid?

I've heard positive things about Seam; I believe there was talk of them in a thread a few days ago. Any particular album I should look for?

Ian Johnson, Friday, 24 January 2003 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

has ILM s/d c/d'd codeine?

seam - headsparks LP, kernel EP, days of thunder 7", granny 9x 7"
search tracks: "new years", "driving the dynamite truck"(breaking circus cover)

slint - spiderland LP
search tracks: "washer", "don aman"

more later... (btw i've never heard low or bedhead).

gygax!, Friday, 24 January 2003 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

slint - spiderland LP

Would you really call this slowcore? I've owned it for a while, and do enjoy it, but wouldn't have thought to call it that. "Washer" perhaps, but the rest of it seems to be relatively upbeat and propulsive; not draggy.

If you've never heard Low.. search the tracks "Two-Step" and "Caroline" for starters. They're pretty great, methinks.

Ian Johnson, Friday, 24 January 2003 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link


pehr records rocks. most of those are great. some of their roster fits the slowcore idea even if some are more in the somber indie pop realm. timonium's "self evidence"... download it. empress is classic. in that same vein, hyrdoplane and cat's miaow are also tremendous...


msp, Friday, 24 January 2003 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Idaho: Year After Year

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 24 January 2003 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Would you really call [slint - spiderland LP] slowcore? I've owned it for a while, and do enjoy it, but wouldn't have thought to call it that. "Washer" perhaps, but the rest of it seems to be relatively upbeat and propulsive; not draggy.

Yes, i would wager that it was very impactful for most of the bands that will be discussed in this thread.

gygax!, Friday, 24 January 2003 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

A Seam track I would suggest checking out is "The Prizefighters" from the Lounge Ax comp (not the version on Pace Is Glacial, which incidentally is a very good record).

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 24 January 2003 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

one of the finest low songs i've ever heard was low/piano magic/transient waves performing "sleep at the bottom"... rocketgirl put it out in '98.

msp, Friday, 24 January 2003 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

my brother's band, Kepler, gets labelled slowcore more often than they would like. I think they're quite good, anyway. They have a number of releases available, and the latest, Missionless Days, is particularly nice. Should be some mp3s somewhere through here: http://www.cyberus.ca/~kepler/KepHome.htm

pauls00, Friday, 24 January 2003 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

My old band played a show with Kepler in Detroit a few years ago... I think we might've been slowcore too.

Moving on, Bedhead and Rex were alright.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 24 January 2003 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

kepler's pretty good. i owned one of their tmu releases at one point.

(don't take me selling it back as a bad sign... my collection ebbs and flows.)

msp, Friday, 24 January 2003 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

>> Pace Is Glacial, which incidentally is a very good record

the only record i have ever returned. it seemed very mediocre, like the 'i mother earth' of indie rock.

pb, Friday, 24 January 2003 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

some of the kranky roster fits... labradford coming to mind. some bowery electric.


what about flying saucer attack?


msp, Friday, 24 January 2003 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

after lexi left seam = medio-core.

gygax!, Friday, 24 January 2003 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Gygax, no love for "Haole Redux" or "Petty Theivery"? It's a decent finale!

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 24 January 2003 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

the thread title is slow core... i can handle some of the later era stuff it just didn't mean as much as the early stuff (and bitch magnet).

gygax!, Friday, 24 January 2003 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

In slow-core, you down the tempo of the playing—-the vocals, the guitars, the bass, the drums. So your center is no longer necessarily occupied by sound.

gygax!, Friday, 24 January 2003 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Search: All three Radar Bros. albums, but especially the first self-titled.

Nick Mirov (nick), Friday, 24 January 2003 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Aren't the Radar Bros. more twee than slo-core?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 24 January 2003 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Twee? All the songs on the self-titled album are either about alcoholism or suicide or both. Their music got a little sunnier on subsequent releases, but I don't think they're "twee" (at least not in the Heavenly/K Records sense).

Also, regarding Seam, The Problem With Me is my unqualified favorite.

Nick Mirov (nick), Friday, 24 January 2003 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw them play not too long ago and it was very sensitive, Elephant 6-style pop. Predictably, I hated it.

The Problem With Me is my fave Seam record as well.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 24 January 2003 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the music on Radar Bros records, but the lyrics can be goofy/twee/just plain bad.

Aaron A., Friday, 24 January 2003 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

If you get into Slowcore, you can try Sadcore as well. Here are some good starting points:

- Red House Painters - Ocean Beach
- s/t (Rollercoaster)
- Down Colorful Hill
- Idaho - Three sheets to the wind

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 26 January 2003 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

low - christmas, trust, secret name, long division, curtain hits the cast, Things we lost in the fire
red house painters - both self titled albums
dakota suite - signal hill
boa morte - soon it will come time to face the world outside
acetone - if you only knew

three bands who may or may not be slo-core:
mazzy star - she hangs brightly
radar bros. - and the surrounding mountains
slint - spiderland (washer and for dinner... could be termed slo-core)

codeine - the white birch (brittle and unlovable)
american music club - mercury (prob not slo-core, but it's a load of arse.)

Low are gods, get as many of their albums as you can. Secret Name is the pick of the bunch, though. The perfect crystallisation of their sound.

Boa Morte are an Irish group, they were reviewed in a couple of British mags, but they pretty much disappeared without trace. Their album is a treasure, shamefully neglected. They play support to Teenage Fanclub, so I'll be seeing them on Wed. They have lovely deep, rich voices.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 26 January 2003 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link

For those into Slint- you should check any of the three albums from Duster. Believe me.

G. Rempe (placid), Monday, 27 January 2003 08:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Anything from Labradford is decent I find. Also, the first Ariel M album is very good

Robin Goad (rgoad), Monday, 27 January 2003 11:04 (sixteen years ago) link

the low tracks from this years' festive fifty keep popping into my head and make me want to rush out and buy the lp.

they are also in session, live on peel this coming thursday (22:00-00:00 gmt) and you can listen to it live or for up to a week afterwards (www.bbc.co.uk/radio1)

see also: will oldham / palace brothers / palace music
and, maybe, any of the mojave 3 albums.


koogs, Monday, 27 January 2003 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Kilian, I can see why you'd find Codeine brittle and unlovable-- it's the tightness, the vocals that aren't overtly emotional. But that's exactly why I think they're great-- it's their refusal to follow th easy path, to do what's expected. They write terrific songs, and no one really sounds like them. Last week I listened to White Birch four times in a row on a long drive and never once got tired of it.

charlie va (charlie va), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

codeine's 3 bpm is a bit too exciting for me.

keith (keithmcl), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Komeit! They are great, you would like them.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 27 January 2003 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Art of Fighting

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 27 January 2003 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Cowboy Junkies to thread!

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

yes, the Trinity Session is rather good.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

i think a distinction should be raised between being "slow-core" and merely slow...

gygax!, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

slo-core = sparse instrumentation. silent gaps between drum thwacks. in my opinion, that is.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Does "slowcore" imply music that's also uniformly very quiet, or does slow music that blends quiet passages with very loud passages qualify as well? Aereogramme's music is pretty slow and plodding and sparse, but they also get really loud and screamy.

BTW, good call on Duster. Low and Bedhead fans who need another fix would do well to check out Contemporary Movement.

Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

First get everything Low did and you'll be fine for now (and cool)

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Search: Red House Painters, "Retrospective"
Destroy: Beck's "Sea Change" *hee hee!*

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 02:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Good assessment in general.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 04:16 (sixteen years ago) link

six years pass...


this genre has been kicking my ass all month
an introduction to slowcore

Shackleton Crater (jdchurchill), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 23:48 (nine years ago) link

i have never considered slint to be slowcore. possibly because i don't like them?

"your shades, man, they're shite..." (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 00:07 (nine years ago) link

BEDHEAD. All three of there albums consistently rotate as my favorite among them, and my top ten album ever. Its the painstaking subtlety they maintain as they redefine grandiosity in every song.

Evan, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 02:00 (nine years ago) link

And Duster rules too. Such bittersweet guitar chords; gorgeous.

Evan, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 02:00 (nine years ago) link

...and one of my top ten albums ever.*** -Is what I meant to say instead.

Evan, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 02:02 (nine years ago) link

Low low low.

(Among the best, most intense -- and most facsinating -- acts of the decade, btw)

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 25 November 2009 02:02 (nine years ago) link

^what he said

that's not my post, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 07:28 (nine years ago) link

yea since "discovering" this genre my head rolodexes "what fun life was" and whatever the fuck mishmosh of low songs i was able to find. can't wait to have some extra scratch to go get the rest of bedhead's catalog.

suggest me more of this type of musics, y'all please

Shackleton Crater (jdchurchill), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 18:04 (nine years ago) link

I am a certified corny Low fanatic but I think I like Bedhead even more. Bedhead at their best reached loftier heights (by just a hair) than Low, and Low has more meh material. But then Low were prolific compared to Bedhead. But then I like other Dallas things like the Cowboys and Rich Hippie.

Tale of a Tubby (wanko ergo sum), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 21:21 (nine years ago) link

Other things to try

Jesse Sykes - Reckless Burning or Oh, My Girl.

Or as slowcore bleeds into shoegaze, Slowdive - Souvlaki.

that's not my post, Thursday, 26 November 2009 02:36 (nine years ago) link


that's not my post, Thursday, 26 November 2009 02:38 (nine years ago) link


that's not my post, Thursday, 26 November 2009 03:24 (nine years ago) link

The world hasn't changed that much since then.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 26 November 2009 03:30 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

i am desperately in love with speck mountain and you all should be too

tacoma chameleon (electricsound), Sunday, 27 December 2009 04:04 (nine years ago) link


cee-oh-tee-tee, Sunday, 27 December 2009 04:50 (nine years ago) link

I recently grabbed that album for a dollar but haven't listened to it yet.

Evan, Sunday, 27 December 2009 05:41 (nine years ago) link

i'm a codeine fan but imo it's their weakest. if 'broken hearted wine' was on it, it would be improved tenfold.

tacoma chameleon (electricsound), Sunday, 27 December 2009 05:44 (nine years ago) link

Looks like the Belvedere Palace in Vienna. Nice cover shot.

anagram, Sunday, 27 December 2009 07:15 (nine years ago) link

I really like this one. Don't know why I've waiting this long to check'm out

Evan, Sunday, 3 January 2010 06:42 (nine years ago) link

i've been listening to frigid stars all week!!!

ian, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:06 (nine years ago) link

some people swear by barely real... i think my fave is the white birch.

ian, Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:07 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, The White Birch is my Codeine pick.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 3 January 2010 07:15 (nine years ago) link

The White Birch is great but almost oppressively sad.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Sunday, 3 January 2010 08:13 (nine years ago) link

Its geeky, but does anybody acknowledge "sadcore" as the related, but more lyrically focused genre?

Evan, Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:16 (nine years ago) link

Anymore I mean. Or is it just an outdated term that nobody really uses.

Evan, Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:23 (nine years ago) link

Hi everyone, just seen this thread for the first time. Has anyone mentioned Low yet?


StanM, Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:26 (nine years ago) link

Oh I just noticed sadcore mentioned up thread

Evan, Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:28 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

I don't know where to put this, so I'm putting it here:


Because whoa... <3

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 6 August 2011 11:41 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Codeine rules.

Clarke B., Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:25 (six years ago) link

Loss Leader is one of the best songs of the last 20 years.

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 5 January 2013 05:21 (six years ago) link

Wondering if I'll ever get my hands on that Codeine Numero box! Someday I'll just get it.

Evan, Saturday, 5 January 2013 06:40 (six years ago) link

Am I alone in liking Seam, I ask myself

mookieproof, Saturday, 5 January 2013 06:45 (six years ago) link

there was some chat about them on the codeine thread last year around the time of the box set and tour, not a whole lot though. think I was the only ilxor to catch one of their reunion shows. and it was one of the shows of the year for me.


my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Saturday, 5 January 2013 06:50 (six years ago) link

bluetile lounge released a pretty classic album entitled 'lowercase'. it sounds quite a bit like codeine, except for the songs are longer/less structured. i believe this album came out on sunday records, of all places. i'm pretty sure i've seen bluetile mentioned elsewhere on ilm, however.

yes, codeine were good. haven't listened to them in years, and couldn't bear to now. they were just a little too real, ya know?

boy_slayer, Saturday, 5 January 2013 09:09 (six years ago) link

summershine not sunday. their second album was on smells like

bluetile lounge were pretty great, sadly i never got to see them live

pointillist not pointless (electricsound), Saturday, 5 January 2013 12:27 (six years ago) link

summershine! untrustworthy memory. i'll check discogs next time.

boy_slayer, Saturday, 5 January 2013 13:04 (six years ago) link

Oh man yes, Loss Leader - that was always the one song for me too.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 5 January 2013 15:06 (six years ago) link

I saw Codeine last year in LA. They were really good though it became a little monotonous toward the end. (I feel the same way about their records - even if I really like them!)

scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 5 January 2013 17:46 (six years ago) link

"Cave In". Jesus Christ.

Mule, Saturday, 5 January 2013 19:30 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

Just getting around to this Duster comp on Numero. Fuck, it's great. Stratosphere just damn near took the top of my head off.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:54 (three months ago) link

it's solid gold, that LP. it's great that they finally got the attention they deserved.

half-cut by bluetile lounge is still my #1 'slowcore' album.

meaulnes, Sunday, 16 June 2019 11:15 (three months ago) link

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