― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
Also, much beautiful ambientish stuff. Like whisked, frothier Cocteau Twins minus Liz Frazer.
― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
69 - lots of dubby noise-pop, faint Mary Chain influence (there was more on their first few EPs, which I actually prefer, especially Up!)
"i" - sequenced space-pop, still with lots of odd guitar textures but much catchier, my favourite of their records.
Sea To A Child - 'reformation' LP from 1994, I actually think it's very pretty in a new-agey way but most people seemed to slate it
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
They were doing the masses of swirled guitar and feedback some years before MBV and their ilk. I remember their insistence in interviews that they never listened to the Mary Chain or *any* pop music -- only jazz and reggae. I think Alex (1/2 of the duo) later fessed up that this was a fib - they actually loved listening to pop!
Check all their stuff (including the "Listen Up!" EP under an alias I've just forgotten), even their last one: "New Clear Child" . And Alex's solo stuff is ok, too. Available on www.idealize.com -I think that's the correct URL. At work so can't check at the moment.
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
And Alex's solo stuff is ok, too. Available on www.idealize.com -I think that's the correct URL.
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― original bgm, Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
S: The "Up Home!" EP, "69" and "i" (esp "Catch My Drift").D: The "Love Sick" EP.
This thread reminds me that 1988 is now FIFTEEN years ago and that I am no longer a youth. Gah.
― Venga, Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom May, Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Venga, Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 23 January 2003 21:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 23 January 2003 21:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Thursday, 23 January 2003 21:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 23 January 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Friday, 24 January 2003 06:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
CD80 'portable' A.R. Kane go!
When You're SadLolitaSado-Masochism Is a MustBaby Milk Snatcher (Up Home! vers.)One Way MirrorUpGreen Hazed DazeCrazy BlueSuicide KissA Love From Outer SpaceWhat's All This Then?Snow JokeMiles ApartPopSpookSupervixensAnitina
(77:39)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 20:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 6 November 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
(their finest moment, you know.)
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
is that dub mix on the purple remix 'i' disc?
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 7 November 2003 08:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― j fail (cenotaph), Friday, 7 November 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
am i the ONLY one who likes new clear child?
-- strongo hulkington (dubplatestyl...), April 8th, 2004.
I don't *mind* it but...
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), April 8th, 2004.
i think i listen to it the most these days
I am listening to New Clear Child for the first time in a long while and I have to say it's the first time I've ever heard it and really flat out enjoyed it. Very interesting. Also interesting is the fact that I'm convinced that Gus Gus's sample of Kool and the Gang for "Believe" was either inspired by its use on this album for "Cool as Moons" or is in fact just a sample of "Cool as Moons" directly!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 October 2004 21:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 4 October 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 October 2004 21:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 4 October 2004 21:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 October 2004 22:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 4 October 2004 22:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Venga (Venga), Monday, 12 September 2005 07:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Monday, 12 September 2005 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 12 September 2005 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Monday, 12 September 2005 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link
A.R. Kane don't really belong to that continuum of noisy stuff - they're much more post-Cocteau Twins, contemporaries of Kitchens of Distinctions, precursors to Disco Inferno and Bark Psychosis... the idea is "noise" as in not typical sounds frequently used in music, rather than "noise" as in loud, enveloping, annihilating.
x-post X 2!I remember being confused by i as well, expecting something much heavier and more abstract. But it grew on me inordinately quickly - it's not just a case of the outwardly superficial pop songs concealing hidden depths, everything within the songs is simultaneously light and deep, accomodating and disconcerting... but the deep/disconcerting qualities can perhaps only be perceived as such once you've internalised the songs. I think I initially thought, "only the last quarter is any good"; then it became "only the last third...", then "only the second half...", then etc. etc.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Monday, 12 September 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 12 September 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 12 September 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 12 September 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Monday, 12 September 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Assuming you're talking about The Jesus and Mary Chain, MBV, Sonic Youth etc (as opposed to all-caps noise), I have to disagree on two points. First, their early work (see the first half of my 'portable' mix above) is very clearly a part of that same continuum, drawing very directly from their immediate precursors. I agree that they went somewhere else, but many of those same groups did likewise (the Mary Chain first perhaps with Automatic). Your last sentence I think perhaps overly simplifies the post-rock landscape into 'those who would use sampling to make new random noise bursts' etc. Even a ostensibly throwback group like Loop (although they were maybe thinking of Pink Floyd) used that same approach on things like "Shot With a Diamond" or the earlier "Thief (Motherf*cker)", and of course Kevin Shields was forever sampling and rearranging his own sounds.
All that said, I'm probably just misunderstanding you!
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=tEtp80EQOgw
see if this works proper like
― Stevolende, Saturday, 29 September 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
The things you learn:
http://www.self-titledmag.com/2012/10/01/premiere-mushy-a-r-kane-my-life-so-far/#more-28120
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
cor, indeed & blimey... got myself the wondrous complete singles collection, and waddya kno?! - "deep blue breath", their last alb's gorgeous opening track, isn't even on it! wasn't it a single?? un-kickingmyself-believable :(
― t**t, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
(yeahyeahyeah, there's the list of songs upthread and everythung, b-b-but ...OH MAAAN!)
― t**t, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
It wasnt a single but there was a rather good remix of it on one of those Volume compilation cds.
― Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9MH-o34TOg
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 03:25 (eleven years ago) link
man I just bought the Complete Singles Collection not too long ago, loving it so much!
― que sera sriracha (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 06:32 (eleven years ago) link
Loving i once you get over putting Love from Outer Space on repeat.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 April 2013 11:48 (eleven years ago) link
No campaign to get "Baby milk snatcher" to number one?
― Rob M Revisited, Saturday, 13 April 2013 12:09 (eleven years ago) link
AR Kane slips under the radar yet again!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 April 2013 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
I enjoyed 'em live back in the old days when they played the old 930 Club in W. DC.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 13 April 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
Lol is BMS an anti-Thatcher song?
― que sera sriracha (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 13 April 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/7932963/How-Margaret-Thatcher-became-known-as-Milk-Snatcher.html
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 13 April 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
And 25 years on, my celebration of <I>'i'</i>:
http://thequietus.com/articles/15633-a-r-kane-i-review
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:20 (ten years ago) link
From their FB feed today -
And so ... after a brief hiatus of ... no, no that sounds crap and is a lie ...So. After many years in life's wilderness of home and work and etc ... I have ... uh oh, that sounds really dumb!OK. Here we go. Putting together some players and playing a gig this summer.It will be A.R.Kane material.It will be noisy. Mostly. And a bit quiet. In places.Details to be confirmed almost soon.How was that? Was that OK?
― MaresNest, Thursday, 16 April 2015 23:02 (nine years ago) link
OMGWTF
― Tim F, Thursday, 16 April 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link
whoa.
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 16 April 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link
Yes
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 April 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
!!!!
― stirmonster, Friday, 17 April 2015 03:05 (nine years ago) link
http://i57.tinypic.com/28jbm02.png
― MaresNest, Sunday, 19 April 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
At the moment seems like it's a Rudy-only venture. It's not AR Kane if there's no Alex involved.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
he made a point to say it wasn't a reunion. . . but then he did say he'd been in contact with former AR Kane members. So sounds like he's doing it whether Alex will or not.
― akm, Monday, 20 April 2015 14:01 (nine years ago) link
Meh
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 20 April 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link
they prob heard the new young fathers album and thought they need to get in there.
― StillAdvance, Monday, 20 April 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link
I'm glad I got to see them back in the late 90s. It was the NewClear Child tour but they didn't hold back from getting their feedback on. Was glorious.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 20 April 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
Oh man, I need to see this. Hope I can get a ticket.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 20 April 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
imo "haunting" is the single best shoegaze
― soyrev, Monday, 20 April 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
^I dont agree totally but Iits def way high up there!
― let's love Jessica to death (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 20 April 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
fighting with my ex- about A.R. Kane kinda ruined them for me, but this news is monumental enough to merit an eyebrow raise from me at the very least
― bernard snowy, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
they played last weekend at the midi festival in france
here is the setlist...https://twitter.com/InfoKane/status/625550537547755520
― feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 3 August 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link
will be seeing them myself this saturday at supernormal. rudy said it might be their very last show, but who knows?
― feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 3 August 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
17 minutes of them live in a current incarnation with Rudy but no Alex, live at the primavera Sound at the start of this monthhttp://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=563752
― Stevolende, Saturday, 11 June 2016 10:21 (eight years ago) link
The new album by The Invisible really reminds me of "A Love From Outer Space" in lots of ways.
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 11 June 2016 10:37 (eight years ago) link
any way to check that out without getting a Dimeadozen membership?
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 11 June 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link
It wasn't that fantastic from hearing it once. A loud d'n'b-ish track and one more dreampoppy.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 11 June 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link
Ah yeah I'll pass.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 11 June 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link
btw I hate this band ever since I got in a fight with my ex- about them, shortly before we broke up
― every day, be sure you're woke (bernard snowy), Saturday, 11 June 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link
oh hmm, I see I have already mentioned this extremely interesting tidbit about myself upthread *shimmers and vanishes, like a radiant palace of ice in the desert melting back into the shadows of a mirage*
― every day, be sure you're woke (bernard snowy), Saturday, 11 June 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link
Lol whatever, I had a conversation with Michael B about "Sulliday" when we met up in Lansing, and ever since then I've had a new appreciation for that track, and for 69 as a whole, as a sustained surrealist masterpiece
― gate crimes legislation (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 June 2016 05:02 (eight years ago) link
what were the details of this fight
― akm, Sunday, 12 June 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link
Was this ever posted? Classic era AR Kane live off a cassette : ))
http://killyourpetpuppy.co.uk/news/flux-annie-anxiety-tackhead-sound-system-dv-ar-kane-u-l-u-281186/
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 8 July 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link
Holy crap I need this in my life. Thanks!
― mark e smith and brexit (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 9 July 2016 10:41 (eight years ago) link
So in this song when he says "car-ar-pet" I'm strongly reminded of AR Kane:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPT2QuCIOA
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 11 August 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link
Reissue set entitled A. R. Kive has been reviewed in Uncut and The Wire, but it STILL doesn’t have a price or pre-order! It sounds like an eccentric box, too. The first 2 studio LPs and the Up Home! EP, but no Lollita or other material from the era. Weird all-around, which is par for the course with them
― beamish13, Monday, 26 June 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link
so the Rough Trade stuff but the early OLI or 4AD singles... rights issue no doubt
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 26 June 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
I’m glad it’s finally being reissued, but I’ll wait for more reviews to see if they’re comparable to the original releases.
― beamish13, Monday, 26 June 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link
just got a ticket for the London gig in September :D
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 13 June 2024 12:59 (five months ago) link
Nice. So many AR Kane threads
AR Kane - 69 : classic or dud?
― curmudgeon, Friday, 14 June 2024 12:29 (five months ago) link
The Wire cover story has sent me through the catalogue. I knew “A Love From Outer Space” from the time, playing it on my college radio show. But the availability of their stuff in the US meant I never was able to truly appreciate their diversity and depth. Thanks to the miracle of streaming, being able to hear the complete catalogue in these is introducing to me just how truly great these guys are.
― Booger Swamp Road (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 21 November 2024 14:59 (two weeks ago) link