― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 January 2003 03:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― TMFTML (TMFTML), Thursday, 23 January 2003 03:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
Other controversies have got more attention ("We're bigger than Jesus") and probably effected more people but I don't think there's ever been a band who's as morally corrupt as Mayhem.
― CretanBull (CretanBull), Thursday, 23 January 2003 03:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
I dunno, just sounds like they were a bunch of fuck-ups. Is that offensive or just stupid?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 03:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 January 2003 03:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Squire Rod, Thursday, 23 January 2003 03:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 03:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 January 2003 03:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 23 January 2003 04:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
Both? Although after reading "The Lords of Chaos" I was left with the impression that Varg Vikernes (basist/murderer) is reasonably intelligent.
I can't imagine a band who's ever broken more taboos...suicide, canabalism, murder & burning churches all with in a small social circle? And thats just the surface...they (or alteast Vikernes) has worked closely with various neo-nazi groups, Euronymous (murdered guitarist) owned a record shop that also sold black magic & satanic paraphernalia, hosted satanic rituals etc. There's basically nothing truly offensive that one of them didn't do....surely this is MUCH worse than Eminem using the word "fag" ?!?
― CretanBull (CretanBull), Thursday, 23 January 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
In principle, yes of course, but this only works if Mayhem have/had the huge global (pop-)cultural impact as Eminem. Which they don't, obviously.
― Charlie (Charlie), Thursday, 23 January 2003 04:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
Philip Glass Ensemble, hands down.
― hstencil, Thursday, 23 January 2003 06:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 07:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
Is Candy-O the one with the Vargas cover, because that probably would've been enough
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
See: R. Kelly, Chocolate Factory
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 January 2003 08:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jason J, Thursday, 23 January 2003 10:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
Who gets to decide what's offensive? Appealing to all genders, races, classes and orientations was definitely too much for a lot of people to handle.
― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 23 January 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
I get this image of him putting strings on a kid and playing it with his bow. *hides*
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
That was offensive?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Thursday, 23 January 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
It wasn't just the band, Sex Pistols *FANS* were attacked in the streets; and not even just by young hard cases either - I was even spat at in broad daylight in the middle of the high street of my home town in 1977 by some sweet little old dear who could have been my grandmother, just because I had a GSTQ T-shirt on.
Not the most offensive band in 20th Century music maybe, but they sure did seem to upset an awful lot of people at the time.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mike a (mike a), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 17:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
stewart his name was BERNARD BROOKE-PARTRIDGE: age 16 i committed it to the black book of my year-zero mind as a capital offence against punk — he actually died very shortly after (though not i hasten to add as a result of anything i had done...)
the story of the rites of spring riots is very questionable: there was definitely a big noisy fuss at the first performance (at a vanue notorious for its let's-fuck-stuff-up audiences), but strav himself always noted that this was the ONLY ruckus it ever caused in performance, and in fact attributed it more to nijinsky's choreography (which was apparently somewhat michael clark-ish!!) (ie peasant-y and lewd)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
Seems to me the Pistols didn't get much shock-reaction from the US press until the Sid/Nancy murder thing. There is something peculiarly British about the Sex Pistols offensiveness. The Stones cut a wider swath (as did, I would guess, Elvis and NWA).
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Curtis Stephens, Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
*which is "offensive" if you take it out of context etc etc
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 23 January 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― g (graysonlane), Thursday, 23 January 2003 21:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 January 2003 21:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
Around that time Axl made some comment about AIDS that pissed off a lot of people.
― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 23 January 2003 22:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
...and I'm told that people still walk out on it today.
― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
Did they ever burn Hall and Oates records? I know that a number of fundie types hated them (of all people) because of "Winged Bull."
― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
It's offensive to eat your own poop.
― Evan (Evan), Friday, 24 January 2003 11:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Friday, 24 January 2003 12:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
i think GG is prob. far from the most offensive
― geeta (geeta), Friday, 24 January 2003 12:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 24 January 2003 13:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― g (graysonlane), Friday, 24 January 2003 23:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 24 January 2003 23:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mallory bourgeois (painter man), Friday, 24 January 2003 23:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
If it means most morally objectionable I'd have to guess Skrewdriver or Mayhem, though it would be a total guess because I've never heard either band. Why would I want to?
If we're talking social impact - i.e. Their obscenity had an effect on people whether or not they had heard the record - I'd suggest Prince or 2 Live Crew for kickstarting the PMRC stickering nonsense.
― richard stacey (analog75), Saturday, 25 January 2003 00:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
I've always loved how Lennon weasled out of the apology he gave to the press: "...It was wrong, or it was taken* wrong..."
* It was a joke about how popular we are, haven't you stupid Americans heard of hyperbole?
― nickn (nickn), Saturday, 25 January 2003 00:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
The only example I can think of right now is Charlotte Church for those 9/11 remarks that were discussed round here a while back. Could it be that she is the most offensive person in popular music?
― richard stacey (analog75), Saturday, 25 January 2003 01:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mei (mei), Sunday, 26 January 2003 09:09 (twenty-one years ago) link