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..... has anyone else read the new issue of Mojo with the massive Kate Bush feature and cover story?
What's everyone's favourite KB moment? Single or album?
And when the f*ck do we think the new album's due? It's now 10 years since the last (pretty dire IMO) 'Red Shoes'.
Personally, I think she's one of the few artists the word 'genius' belongs to.
And how much do we hate Tori frigging Amos? Dreadful derivative sixth-form poetry nonsense, I reckon.

russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link

latest info:
http://www.pauseandplay.com/cdfront.htm
Kate Bush (title TBA) (U.K. - EMI, September 2003)

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:05 (sixteen years ago) link

i did a piece on hounds of love for the Church of Me abt a year ago. go to http://cookham.blogspot.com/2002_01_27_cookham_archive.html and scroll down past the so solid crew section.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Great link, DJ Martian. Didn't know about that site.

As for the Kate Bush album, if it's ready by then great, but I wouldn't count on it.

Favourite album has to be 'Hounds of Love'.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Marcello - absolutely stunning. Well observed and fasntastically written. Damn impressed. It never ceases to amaze me that people don't own Hounds of Love - if there ever was an 'essential album' in your collection, there is no other one, really.

russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Marcello - absolutely stunning. Well observed and fasntastically written. Damn impressed. It never ceases to amaze me that people don't own Hounds of Love - if there ever was an 'essential album' in your collection, there is no other one, really.

DJ Martian - interesting site....I think it'd be a colossal mistake to not release her album this year. What she must remember is that the age bracket who religiously bought her music has now grown up..... and rarely purchase CDs as such any more.... and she's not endeared herself to a new audience at all. Since her break, copyists like Amos, Harvey etc have appeared and cornered that end of the market. I've a feeling EMI will be very worried about this new album's release...


...great to see The Beloved still around, though.

russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah I'm looking forward to the new Kate Bush album, and from the list on that link, Lou Reeds new album (the Raven) looks pretty cool: (David Bowie, Laurie Anderson, Ornette Coleman, etc as guests) The new Massive Attack (100th Window) should be good too.

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Hounds of Love is hard to beat for melody, majesty and the whole 9th Wave operetta. But The Dreaming is still my favorite, because it's her darkest, weirdest, most charmingly unhinged record. I mean, "Sat In Your Lap" is some seriously odd music, but it's also catchy as hell. And "Leave It Open," and the donkey braying at the end of "Get Out of My House," and the scary-sexy-demon way she spells "dreamtime" on the title track. I think that album is where she put it all together; Hounds of Love (which is great, don't get me wrong) is where she buffed and polished it.

Jesse Fox (Jesse Fox), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

My favorite is "The Kick Inside"... but then again I love Laura Nyro.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I think her finest moment was the 'This Woman's Work' single which, IMO, is the finest song ever written - it's just perfect, lyrically and musically.

Even her b-sides are incredible - Under The Ivy, b-side to Running up that hill is another fine song.

Didn't like the Red Shoes album much at all (Eric Clapton?!),apart from Song of Solomon and Big stripey lie.

The Dreaming is a brave, dark record....hard to believe it's 20 years old.

Next month, it's 25 years since Wuthering heights hit number one, too!? Where did that go?

But my favourite album is Hounds of Love - Mother stands for comfort is like a warm blanket, and 9th Wave is breathtaking.

Kate Bush never ceases to amaze and fascinate me, though, and the new album, in this sterile music scene, will be so welcome.

russ t, Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:01 (sixteen years ago) link

[Re: The Beloved

Yes, The Beloved (jon marsh) is back and working on new material, however the Beloved listed via the link is a hardcore rock band.]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Right, you bastards, I'm going to go and buy it at lunch time and if it isn't grate I'm gonna burn your fucking houses down.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:34 (sixteen years ago) link

it's grebt nick -- our houses will be safe!!

geeta, Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link

It's considerate of you to do it today now the firemen are back at work, Nick. But geeta's right - you'll have to find some other outlet for your arson-lust.

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 23 January 2003 12:21 (sixteen years ago) link

They may be back at work but they're out of practice! I will find a reason to burn things!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 23 January 2003 12:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Kate Bush: I loved everything up to and ending with Hounds. I love in particular, Lionheart with its weird tinkly piano and the idea of a young witch-in-the-making with her glass-shattering voice in a crooked little house swaying in the windy dark. I love the sheer musicality of Never For Ever. I love the majesty of Hounds.

I once had a dream with her "All the Love" as a soundtrack, I woke up completely creeped out and wondering where the words "I needed you - to love me too. I wait for your move" came from.

However her videos are unremitting pap. They are a complete embarrassment and I wonder why she doesn't hire e.g. Madonna's directors. I know it might all turn out horribly wrong and commercial and her delicate imagery and ideas wither but ANYTHING ANYTHING would be better than (god help me) "Army Dreaming" etc.

M Chong, Friday, 24 January 2003 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Well it was 1980, nobody's videos were exactly great!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 24 January 2003 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Favorite Kate Bush moment? Wish I had a link to verify it, but in some interview a number of years ago, someone asked her when the last time she cried was, and her answer:

"When I heard Killing Joke broke up!"

**FACT**

Kate was a huge fan of the Joke. Youth even played bass for her on the HOUNDS OF LOVE album. Thus, KATE BUSH HONORS THE FIRE!!!

http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/youth/youth27.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 January 2003 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

" Kate was a huge fan of the Joke."
- besides allegedly 'onouring the Joke (+breathing fire since birth),
the young pre-fame La Bush most certainly was pulled by the Incedible String,
purple hearting them fan clubbingly

(*goes to honour the fire in own kitch'': to strike match, light cig*)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 25 January 2003 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

(*on returning from honoring the fire*)

Alex in NYC -- what's your fave Jaz'ed-up orchestra'vaganza then?

Jaz does Doors,
Jaz ups Zep,
Jaz goes Pink F ?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 25 January 2003 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link

They're all pretty needless and dreadful, honestly. But, if I had to pick one, I'd probably opt for the Zep one. Actually, of Jaz's usually ill-advised orchestral outings, the record he did with Anne Dudley of Art of Noise called SONG FROM THE VICTORIOUS CITY is pretty interesting.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 25 January 2003 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

'd pretty much agree with you, Alex, on orchestral Jaz (the worst of which must be the Jaz-in-Pink plunder)
'Victorious City', tho', mostly listenable even now, yes --

BTW, there ever been a separate thread on Anne Dudley?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 25 January 2003 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Surmounter, Is "The whole story" a good starting place?

I know, right?, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

to be honest, i haven't even listened to it.

i rly would start with the dreaming. i'm not a compliation person myself.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Either am I.

It's just I managed to find it on rapidshare. I am listening now. I might leave it, I'm sure HMV will have it knocked down for January.

You must also listen to Arthur Russell pretty soon.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

oh ya! thank you, almost forgot...

Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

I just pulled out _The Whole Story_ the other day and it's still a damn good place to start. Clearly she's due for a new retrospective as _TWS_ only goes through 1986! But it culls choice tracks from her early albums, enough to help you decide if you want to pursue them further.

Mr. Odd, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Just another gratuitous revive of a random Kate Bush thread...*cough* *Ah HEM!* Move along, nothing to see here.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 28 July 2008 08:27 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

It was raining and I was alone this week so I put on Hounds of Love and it made me cry.
It's not an album to dip into, it has to be heard from start to finish, then again. For when those
moments pop out at you and make you sit up, "pause for a jet", "look who's here to see you", "Murderer!".
the key change when the Hello Earth theme returns. I put this moment here.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 11:42 (ten years ago) link

"Do you see that little light up there?"
"Where?"
"There"
"Where?"

gets me every time.

sparkletuna, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 12:21 (ten years ago) link

<3 <3

kate on a piano in dream of sheep is so perfect, so singer songwriter with something bigger, so crystal clear.

i'll wake up to the sound of engines. ::vrrrrooom::

Surmounter, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:55 (ten years ago) link

i can't listen to hol or the dreaming without crying. it's like watching steve martin without smiling.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:57 (ten years ago) link

this one never fades. like a childhood dream.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:58 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

<3 <3 <3

dudamel (get bent), Thursday, 1 October 2009 06:33 (nine years ago) link

YES

ian, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:45 (nine years ago) link

that last one!

surm, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:55 (nine years ago) link

loolll. i love that mean expression that she can do. is that the RUTH video?

surm, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:59 (nine years ago) link

i'm not sure...i need to go watch a shitload of her vids

http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e20111690c4ad4970c-800wi

omar little, Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:02 (nine years ago) link

Dry contact lenses there, I reckons.

Mark G, Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:36 (nine years ago) link

whoa thats dope

xhuxk mangione (deej), Friday, 2 October 2009 10:02 (nine years ago) link

yeah where i can i exchange dollars for that

ok star grumbles (lukas), Friday, 2 October 2009 15:56 (nine years ago) link

ebay

omar little, Friday, 2 October 2009 17:09 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOo916s2jTI

omar little, Friday, 2 October 2009 17:25 (nine years ago) link

I think we have a tendency to overestimate the extent to which other people, particularly famous people, actually think about politics and in particular I don't trust pop stars to make much sense when talking about it. Obvious glaring contradictions in their public pronouncements and worldview are part of that.

She was also raised Catholic which wasn't exactly a gateway drug to Tory support in the 70s and 80s.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:32 (seven months ago) link

(And Irish Catholic at that)

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:34 (seven months ago) link

yeah but her English dad was a doctor and she grew up in farmhouse. I don't think he'd have been getting the accordion out after a skinful and singing Wrap The Green Flag Around Me and then falling asleep in a puddle of his own piss! Posh is relative of course and she might be considered common as muck by some standards.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:48 (seven months ago) link

I don't think he'd have been getting the accordion out after a skinful and singing Wrap The Green Flag Around Me and then falling asleep in a puddle of his own piss!

coffee through the nose lols at this

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:51 (seven months ago) link

I won’t be commenting further on this, but feel it’s become so pervasive that I felt I needed to clarify this matter once and for all: my father did get the accordion out after a skinful and sing Wrap The Green Flag Around Me then fell asleep in a puddle of his own piss.

Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:54 (seven months ago) link

:D

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:55 (seven months ago) link

poor muddled kate, a prisoner to her castle, early success, and irish catholic mother, she must find it a terrible struggle to think clearly about anything at all

ogmor, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:56 (seven months ago) link

That'll be the concept for her next performance run. "The Ninth Wave (of a Piss Puddle)"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:56 (seven months ago) link

as i consider conservatism to be a psychosocial derangement which becomes increasingly common with age (and wealth) i didn't find it hard to conclude that kate bush was probably a tory (as i'm not british, i don't look at things through the lens of class and/or essential nature)

i also don't find it hard to conclude that she's not, on the grounds that she's said she's not

errang (rushomancy), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:59 (seven months ago) link

'only the british are essentialists', v good

ogmor, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:15 (seven months ago) link

omg calzino that post killed me

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:24 (seven months ago) link

"I've enough dealing with still listening to and enjoying Death in June and a boatload of black metal bands and other pricks. I didn't need KB added to the mix,"

dude listening to and supporting Death in June is fucking WAY WORSE than anything KB may have said/thought.

akm, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:51 (seven months ago) link

You don't say. I said that in the context of my personal (hypocritical) red line. The attempted humor of that line clearly got lost.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:00 (seven months ago) link

Yeah it definitely did. I thought u were saying kate bush was a varg type character which seemed ludicrous.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:11 (seven months ago) link

I like to think Kate Bush is reading this thread and it's made the whole thing worthwhile for her.

Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:13 (seven months ago) link

Um, not cool to dox me

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:14 (seven months ago) link

I wrote about how the price of gay acceptance in Kate's work is heterosexual pleasure: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/01/09/kashka-from-baghdad/

ballardiangorse, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 19:58 (seven months ago) link

Oh. Followup: I also wrote about The Kick Inside. Next up is Wuthering Heights. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/01/14/the-kick-inside/

ballardiangorse, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:08 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

those are some short CDs!

sold out in presale (sleeve), Friday, 22 February 2019 19:45 (six months ago) link

That's pretty nice, we can snag the rarities if we don't want to shell out again for all the remastered albums from the box set... why does she hate Ken so much though?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 22 February 2019 22:27 (six months ago) link

why does she hate Ken so much though?

Maybe just changed her mind about him over time?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 February 2019 22:32 (six months ago) link

Maybe she'll include it on her upcoming disc of tracks she recorded for Fruitopia commercials

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 22 February 2019 22:39 (six months ago) link

why does she hate Ken so much though?

if you mean "why isn't 'Ken' on her rarities sets," the rights are probably tangled up between Richardson and the BBC and Entertainment One and who knows who else

if you mean that she doesn't love Ken anymore, perhaps the reasons that he has been in the news the last 900,023 times are related.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 22 February 2019 22:57 (six months ago) link

her song about Boris Johnson isn't nearly as good

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 22 February 2019 23:01 (six months ago) link

Wild Man?

nashwan, Friday, 22 February 2019 23:07 (six months ago) link

If you like Room for the Life... well, sorry. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/02/22/room-for-the-life/

ballardiangorse, Saturday, 23 February 2019 01:01 (six months ago) link

Them Heavy People helped me in a soft spot. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/02/28/them-heavy-people/ & http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/them-heavy-people/

ballardiangorse, Thursday, 28 February 2019 19:48 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

Realized I haven't updated here in a while, so... https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/05/10/symphony-in-blue/ & http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/symphony-in-blue/

ballardiangorse, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:00 (three months ago) link

The Remastered CD Box Set Part 2 has dropped to $62 on Amazon US, that's tempting...

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:33 (three months ago) link

four weeks pass...

On "Wow." http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/wow/ and also at https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/06/07/wow/

ballardiangorse, Saturday, 8 June 2019 00:36 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

(With apologies to anyone who's irritated by all the linking) Here's the Tour of Life. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/06/28/the-tour-of-life/

ballardiangorse, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:23 (one month ago) link

Onto Never for Ever, starting w/ Egypt katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/07/05/egypt/ (somebody else talk about Kate. I feel like I'm spamming the thread.)

ballardiangorse, Friday, 5 July 2019 17:16 (one month ago) link

Remasters of Lionheart, Never for Ever, The Red Shoes, Aerial, and 50 Words for Snow are finally available on Spotify now (not sure about other streaming services). In some cases they replaced the originals, in others they're doubled.

No idea if The Kick Inside, The Dreaming, Hounds of Love, and The Sensual World will soon join them.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Monday, 15 July 2019 14:10 (one month ago) link

I've been listening to the re-done Red Shoes, I think I like it a bit more than the original. Or maybe I'm just coming around to the album regardless of mastering. The Aerial with whatshisname removed and replaced with someone else actually sounds worse to my ears.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 15 July 2019 14:25 (one month ago) link

whatshisname removed and replaced with someone else

Wait what?

octobeard, Monday, 15 July 2019 17:24 (one month ago) link

Rolf Harris has a few voiceovers on the original Aerial but he turned out to be a pedophile so they removed his bits and replaced them with (I think) her son doing some narration instead. But it seems like the entire mix is slightly different to me... that could be my imagination though.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:29 (one month ago) link

They replaced Rolf Harris with Kate's son live vocals from Before the Dawn (he played the part of The Painter in the performance). So it's now a studio/live mash-up.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Monday, 15 July 2019 17:50 (one month ago) link

i like bertie's voice more than Harris'.

akm, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:59 (one month ago) link

I've been listening to the re-done Red Shoes, I think I like it a bit more than the original. Or maybe I'm just coming around to the album regardless of mastering.

i listened to both last night and i almost prefer the director's cut version, but i think i have to replace 'lily' with the original version, something is lost in the new vox. i think i also prefer the orig 'rubberband girl.' but overall the sequencing and the addition/subtraction of tracks is an improvement.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:37 (one month ago) link

He's on The Dreaming as well, isn't he?

fetter, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:07 (one month ago) link

yeah but just playing digideroo; could be anyone.

akm, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:17 (one month ago) link

"i listened to both last night and i almost prefer the director's cut version, but i think i have to replace 'lily' with the original version, something is lost in the new vox. i think i also prefer the orig 'rubberband girl.' but overall the sequencing and the addition/subtraction of tracks is an improvement."

confused by this. You mean the versions of the songs on Director's Cut, or the version of Red Shoes that was released along with DC? Because the only difference there is that it was remastered. the versions on actual Director's Cut: that doesn't count as a new version of the album to me.

akm, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:18 (one month ago) link

i thought of it as a reconfiguring of the red shoes since that's the album it has the most tracks in common with, but yeah i guess there was no real reason for me to think of it that way

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:39 (one month ago) link

https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=MUSICOLOGY-ALL;e74bfbb1.1907

This Woman’s Work: A Kate Bush Symposium
Thursday 12th - Friday 13th December 2019, Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh

Call for Papers

Over forty years into her career, Kate Bush continues to make significant contributions to various fields of culture. In recent months, her back catalogue has been re-released in remastered form, and a book of collected lyrics, How To Be Invisible, was published by Faber in 2018. The University of Edinburgh is pleased to announce that it will host a two-day symposium on Bush’s achievements. This event will mark and celebrate four decades of diverse productivity and offers a space for reflection on and discussion of this woman’s work. Despite her prolific creativity since the 1970s – covering the fields of music, film and video, literature, and performance – comparatively little scholarly work has been produced on Kate Bush. This symposium aims to start rectifying this omission: the organisers intend to produce an edited anthology collection developed from symposium proceedings.

We invite proposals for 20-minute papers, as well as pre-constituted panels of 2 or 3 papers, on any aspect of the career of Kate Bush. We also welcome more creative contributions in alternative presentation formats to the symposium.

Oops that link got garbled. Try this one.

confused by this. You mean the versions of the songs on Director's Cut, or the version of Red Shoes that was released along with DC? Because the only difference there is that it was remastered.

I think they used a backup analog master from the original recording sessions... so something more than remastered but not remixed either? It's for certain less compressed, which could be enough to explain the difference I'm hearing.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:37 (one month ago) link

oh yeah... the version of Red Shoes released along with Director's Cut is what I'm talking about it, which is likely the same version included on the new box sets.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:37 (one month ago) link

Relieved Bush has taken Rolf Harris' voice off her albums. That alone justifies the remasters, although they're a welcome addition to her canon. Glad she doesn't have to do the same with Roy Harper as he's not on her albums.

Speaking of the bastard, https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/07/26/another-day/

ballardiangorse, Friday, 26 July 2019 16:36 (four weeks ago) link

(OK apparently Harper does backing vocals on Breathing. Never mind.)

ballardiangorse, Friday, 26 July 2019 16:37 (four weeks ago) link


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