Rosanne Cash, classic or dud?

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Noticed she has a new album out. Not mentioned much these days, and I stopped caring by the time Interiors came out, having no interest in her confessional singer-songwriter stuff. But c. early-mid '90s, I had a love affair with Right or Wrong, Seven Year Ache, and much of King's Record Shop. I still get a kick out of "Seven Year Ache" and bunch more. Nice new wave-inflected country-rock, a yearning voice, etc. I've never had any use for the records of her songwriter-producer-ertswhile husband Rodney Crowell, however.

Wondering if anyone here has ever paid Ms. Cash any mind.

Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Her version of "I Don't Want to Spoil the Party" is one of my very favorite Beatles covers, i.e. one of the very few that's better than the original.

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for saving this thread, Douglas. I would like to add that "I Don't Know Why You Don't Want Me" is a terrific pop song. And I like the Drifters homage "The Way We Make a Broken Heart."

Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 17 January 2003 06:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd add something but my feelings about her are exactly the same as Amateurist. I lost interest right about the same time. But "Seven Year Ache" is a perfect, perfect song. I like "My Baby Thinks He's a Train", too. Maybe she's made a return to pop/country-rock and isn't quite so dour these days? Has anyone heard anything post-Interiors?

Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 17 January 2003 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I suspect she's dived into the James Taylor deep end, never to return. She even published a short story collection godammit. One is available from for $0.70.

Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...
Reviving, cuz I dug up the used vinyl copy of "Rhythm & Romance" I bought in Nashville a few mths ago and never heard. What a good record! Tough, unsentimental pop songs. Her bruised, too-much-red-wine voice evokes Chrissie Hynde's; her generosity is worthy of Christine McVie's. And the solo on "Halfway House" is the fiercest Waddy Watchel moment ever.

If only Shania Twain and Mutt Lange could write songs as good as this. They're the only ones out there who approximate the sound of this record.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Roseann Bar is better.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:16 (fifteen years ago) link

So totally classic. I don't listen to her all the time the way I used to, but everything up to and including 'Interiors' is truly great. (Give or take the weak moments on 'Somewhere in the Stars.') Glad to see Alfred rep for 'R&R.'

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link

She seems to be one of those artists who was really popular with critics for a while and then was sorta forgotten after she stopped making records (it doesn't help that most of her stuff is out of print).

"Interiors" is a fine, fine record (got it used for $2.50), but the absence of guitars and synths make it a less compelling listen.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't like her confessional stuff, i.e. everything after king's record shop. which is an awesome record itself.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

"Seven Year Ache" is indeed great. So is "Hold On".

Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link

sorta forgotten after she stopped making records

she's slowed down but she hasn't stopped. her most recent one came out in 2003. but, yeah, she was better way back when blah blah blah, "seven year ache" blah blah blah. her last couple have been kinda boring blah blah blah.

but ... carter/cash family: best family bloodline in the history of music? are there any challengers?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Alfred Soto: I doubt if Rosanne's classic stuff is out of print. CD Now lists just about all the albums discussed here, so it shouldn't be THAT hard to find.

Myself, I just have the SEVEN-YEAR ACHE album, which I like a lot, but I haven't followed her career that closely. Didn't know until I read this thread that she started doing confessional, hookless, singer-songwriter music. Seems like everytime some alt-country singer turns up, if they start out good they later wind up doing the singer-songwriter thing, which is a bad move. That's what fucked up Neko Case.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 02:50 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Anyone heard the new album?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 11 February 2006 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

No but I've been quite curious!

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 12 February 2006 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link

It is on it's way to me. I will report back after I get a chance to digest it.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Sunday, 12 February 2006 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I've heard it, and I'm forming my thoughts.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 12 February 2006 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

here's some of what Chris Neal wrote on Cash's new record, in this week's Nashville Scene:

*Black Cadillac isn’t really about the Cash family at all; it’s about everyone’s family. It’s about how each one of us becomes an orphan eventually, about how our ancestry shaped who we were before we were born, and about how the connection between parent and child can never truly be severed by death, whether there is a life beyond the grave or not. Walk the Line was fine (although Rosanne’s depiction of the blossoming romance between her parents is a needed tonic to the movie’s skewed portrait of Vivian), but Black Cadillac rescues these people from the bonds of myth and restores them to humanity.

The sound of Black Cadillac reflects the balance between emotion and intellect in Cash’s words. Half the album was produced by Cash’s husband (and frequent co-writer) John Leventhal and half by Bill Bottrell, best known for his work with Sheryl Crow and Michael Jackson. The tracks alternate one-for-one: Bottrell’s are coiled and edgy, with a hard pop grit that recalls Cash’s classic early-1980s work, while Leventhal’s are more relaxed, dominated by acoustic instruments. The effect is one of tension and release, an inhalation and exhalation that suggests the seesaw between duress and acceptance in the grieving process.

Just as Black Cadillac is musically balanced by its dual producers, it is pulled together conceptually by Cash’s eye for recurring details: the songs are filled with images of flowers and water, and their narrators are frequently disembodied, dead or not yet born.*

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 13 February 2006 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I've followed Rosanne's career since 'Seven Year Ache' and tend to prefer the more confessional stuff. 'Black Cadillac' is a middling Cash album, with plenty of listenable stuff, some real goodies, though nothing as good as the duet with her dad 'September When It Comes' on her last album 'Rules Of Travel'. That said, it has some poignant songs about death and I enjoyed listening to it after coming back from seeing the fine 'Walk The Line' (which features the young Rosanne quite heavily) last night.

David B, Monday, 13 February 2006 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Agreed with the love for "Seven-Year Ache" and King's Record. Never loved Interiors that much, but I do like 10 Song Demo (completely stripped-down s/s stuff) -- some of the songs are very nice, well-written, and don't take themselves as seriously as most of the Interiors ff. stuff does. I love her voice.

But R. Cash seems neither C nor D. Middling.

Vornado, Monday, 13 February 2006 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I remember that when it came out we all loved Interiors so much, but trying to listen to it now is like trying to watch old M*A*S*H reruns.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Monday, 13 February 2006 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Like i said upthread, she's so much fun cooly undersinging while guitars and synths make a racket behind her.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 13 February 2006 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

7 year ache is the dr. wu of countrypolitan! or not! but it's a great great song.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 February 2006 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 12 May 2007 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

the only thing I've got by her is 10 Song Demo and it's really, really good. I've always meant to delve deeper...

will, Saturday, 12 May 2007 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Blue Moon With Heartache" -- perfect melancholia.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 27 May 2007 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Listening to "Rainin'," "Hometown Blues," and other gems from Seven Year Ache. She direly needs re-evaluation.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 27 December 2007 02:00 (twelve years ago) link

concur 100%

J0hn D., Thursday, 27 December 2007 03:08 (twelve years ago) link

Implied it upthread, but as the missing link between punk, country, and L.A. studio rock she should be blasted from every car stereo. She's so simple in her effects that I'm not surprised she's underrated.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 27 December 2007 03:14 (twelve years ago) link

she was a total godsend in the 80s. Seven Year Ache and Kings Record Shop are classics. great live performer too. saw rosanne and lucinda w on the same bill once in central park -- no comparison.

m coleman, Thursday, 27 December 2007 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

Kings Record Shop would easily be in my top ten of all time.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 27 December 2007 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

I think I put Hits on my iPod before flying across the country. Will listen tonight.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 27 December 2007 03:55 (twelve years ago) link

"i don't know why you don't want me." swoon.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 27 December 2007 06:39 (twelve years ago) link

saw rosanne and lucinda w on the same bill once in central park -- no comparison.
I was at that show too, lovebug. Rosanne went out of her way to praise Lucinda's songwriting, singling out for special mention the song that mentions a casserole. It was the beginning of the end for me.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 27 December 2007 12:08 (twelve years ago) link


m coleman, Thursday, 27 December 2007 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

Most pop should sound like "Never Be You" and "Halfway House."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 25 October 2008 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

or "I Don't Know Why You Don't Want Me"

Euler, Saturday, 25 October 2008 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

I like the Drifters homage "The Way We Make a Broken Heart."

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 26 October 2008 01:15 (eleven years ago) link

Rosanne on Sarah Palin:

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Anyone bought The List yet?

lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 October 2009 22:53 (ten years ago) link

Read folks whose views I respect say that it was too stiff and mannered and so I can't even bring myself yet to find it online or listen to a sample. Still curious though!

curmudgeon, Sunday, 25 October 2009 23:18 (ten years ago) link

she duets with Springsteen, Elvis Costello, & Jeff Tweedy and uh, Rufus Wainwright. how about giving some work to some lesser known singers Roseanne, hm?

lukevalentine, Sunday, 25 October 2009 23:32 (ten years ago) link

it's nice but not interesting. she sounds good, the songs are obviously good, but there's no real surprises in the choices and even less in the arrangements and execution.

about what you'd expect, basically.

STRATE IN2 DAKRNESS (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 October 2009 04:19 (ten years ago) link

her recent albums (by that i mean since 1988) are srsly boring.

amateurist, Monday, 26 October 2009 04:21 (ten years ago) link

This is her Raising Sand.

lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 October 2009 11:14 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

I'm listening to Rhythm & Romance for the first---I knew the big singles from various greatest hits compilation, but whoa @ "Halfway House": huge distorted chords (plus the solo!) plus Cash's voice in piercing form. And "Pink Bedroom" is almost as good, with a really great lyric ("She paints her fingernails forbidden tones / She wants nervous youth on the telephone").

I read a bit about this period earlier: evidently she spent much of the first half of the eighties doing "truckloads" (her words) of cocaine with Rodney Crowell, and then went into rehab in 1984.

offshore "drilling" for (Euler), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:25 (ten years ago) link

Agreed -- "Halfway House" is top five Cash. "Never Alone" is another goodie (all the songs with "never" in the title are terrific).

huh, "Pink Bedroom" is a John Hiatt song. I don't know anything about his music.

offshore "drilling" for (Euler), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:28 (ten years ago) link

She also covered Hiatt's "The Way We Make a Broken Heart."

yes, "Never Alone" is on now, and it's great too: a Vince Gill co-write. Earlier I listened to part of a bootleg from 1983 (I wanted to hear the cocaine in action) and Vince Gill sings backup on "Seven Year Ache". It's a good performance, pretty fast as you'd expect, and Cash sounds brittle.

offshore "drilling" for (Euler), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:29 (ten years ago) link

Madonna would have done a nice "Never Alone", I think.

offshore "drilling" for (Euler), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:30 (ten years ago) link

I still give KRS the edge for its variety of musical and vocal performances -- R&R's final "Never" song shows her trying too hard to rock -- but R&R is my second favorite, and certainly the last time she straddled country and what was left of New Wave.

I listened to KRS earlier today; I wanted to hear "Rosie Strikes Back", which is up there for me in her oeuvre, and then I couldn't stop listening.

offshore "drilling" for (Euler), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:34 (ten years ago) link

"Rosie Strike Back", sorry

offshore "drilling" for (Euler), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:35 (ten years ago) link

KRS is in my all-time-top-ten.

yeah I love that album a lot; I think it's a bit top-loaded but that's not a problem when the top is that heavy.

"Never Gonna Hurt" isn't that great a performance, but it has a nice double helix of a lyric. I'm guessing she wrote the lyric first, maybe with a rough melody in mind, and then trying to turn it into a burner didn't really work.

"Closing Time" isn't a great closer either, or rather doesn't have a compelling arrangement, but I suppose it ends the album on a happy note.

Now to Right or Wrong for the first time too.

offshore "drilling" for (Euler), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:40 (ten years ago) link

Still haven't heard that one!

It's def. more a "classic" country album, rather than the New Wave-y fusion she brings soon thereafter. For instance, the song I'm currently on is called "Man Smart (Woman Smarter)", which kinda says it all.

offshore "drilling" for (Euler), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:46 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

ok, I get it now; King's Record Shop is an absolute masterpiece: razor-sharp vocals, & the synths are softer than they were in 1981 but the songs are as edgy, & deeper too.

The sound of "Tennessee Flat Top Box" doesn't fit the album, but the lyrics are right on: her dad was a pretty good songwriter, no? The song reads like "Seven Year Ache". Acc. to the Wiki entry (with a citation! so not so bogus perhaps), she didn't know it was her father's song when she recorded it.

Euler, Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:41 (nine years ago) link

Kings Record Shop would easily be in my top ten of all time.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, December 26, 2007

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:45 (nine years ago) link

I've listened to it a bunch before, but this is the first time it's all come together.

Euler, Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:46 (nine years ago) link

"Somewhere, Sometime"!

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:48 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, "Somewhere, Sometime" is as nervous as the best of 1981, but there's more weight to it than she could have pulled off in 1981 I think.

"Rosie Strike Back" is the one I play all the time.

4 country #1s from this album!

are the bonus tracks any good? I only have the original cd.

Euler, Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:52 (nine years ago) link

OK live tracks. "707" too.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:31 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm almost finished reading Rosanne Cash's memoir, which is fascinating. She's a really fine writer.

banjoboy, Thursday, 14 October 2010 01:05 (nine years ago) link

I'll bet that is really good! I'll add it to my list.

Remember the Dayne! (u s steel), Thursday, 14 October 2010 01:23 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Reading the memoir now. I didn't realize she and her dad were always so close; I'd gotten the impression they only reconciled in the last ten years.

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2010 23:13 (nine years ago) link

<3 her so much

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 20 November 2010 23:40 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...
eight months pass...

I saw Rosanne and her band play her new album The River & The Thread straight through live at the Library of Congress last night, then they did songs from her last album The List.

The new album live was pleasant enough though it did not wow me.
Cash and guitarist husband John Levanthal recently traveled the southern states and spent time in Arkansas helping to restore the boyhood home of her father, Johnny Cash. She threw in all kinds of lyrical mentions of the south-- Emmett Till, Robert Johnson and the Crossroads, some ones I knew less about(a spot in Arkansas where there was an earthquake way back when).

Some of the additional covers she did (which sounded better crafted than her her new stuff. Although since it was my first time hearing the new stuff I guess i need to give it another chance when the album comes out):
Long Black Veil"
"I'm Movin' On"
""Girl From the North Country"
"Ode to Billie Joe"
"Heartaches by the Number"

curmudgeon, Friday, 6 December 2013 19:28 (six years ago) link

Among all the Southern Americana talk and lyrics, Rosanne briefly mentioned between songs that she was going "to bow to the audience after every song just like Elton John did when she saw him at the Garden last night"

curmudgeon, Friday, 6 December 2013 19:33 (six years ago) link

So far, seems like new albums got three really good originals in the middle ("Night School" is awesome)(a fourth, "Tell Heaven", is a welcome stylistic exercise). Haven't received the two covers yet, by Townes Van Zandt and Jesse Winchester (might be some special edition). Looking fwd to her vocal presence x their songs, and wish she didn't depend so much on her own writing here --songwriting, that is; I got more from her memoir in the new Oxford American.I dunno; I'll keep listening. She's still got the voice, for sure.

dow, Friday, 6 December 2013 21:08 (six years ago) link

I liked how some of the new songs sounded when Rosanne played them the second night of her residency at the Library of Congress, with hubby Leventhal on guitar, ex-hubby Rodney Crowell also on guitar and vocals, Amy Helm on mandolin and vocals, and Cory Chisel on vocals and guitar.
They also sang together "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down," "I'll Fly Away," and more.

curmudgeon, Monday, 9 December 2013 17:21 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Found out tonight that she released her first album in Germany only, even though three of its tracks later appeared on Right or Wrong (which is what I'd always assumed was her first album).

Listening to it now. She's still a little green in 1978 for sure, but it's totally decent work.

I've got her book. I guess I should read it sometime soon, huh?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 27 August 2015 07:58 (four years ago) link

So many books to read...I never got to this one either

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 August 2015 16:33 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

anyone catch her four-night stint with Emmylou Harris and Lucinda Williams?

It was easy coming up with a top twenty-five.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 11:53 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

i know people tend to take or leave interiors itt but idk, the line between it and king's record shop isn't so defined for me! "land of nightmares" and "paralyzed" give me end-of-the-world chills.

anyway i have a real hard time picking my favorite rosanne record between it, king's, and rhythm & romance

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 30 March 2018 13:14 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

last four songs are absolutely crushing

duet with elvis costello and kris kristofferson about gun violence kinda stops the album dead at track three but maybe i'll get used to it

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 29 October 2018 21:22 (one year ago) link

Between Pistol Annies and Alex Anwandter I've forgotten Cash. What's the sound? No hope of hearing loud synths, right?

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 October 2018 21:24 (one year ago) link

no of course not. sound is still trapped in interiors/the wheel. the writing is sharp as ever

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 29 October 2018 21:25 (one year ago) link

Ends with a cover of that True Detective S2 "My Least Favorite Life"! (No synths.)

... (Eazy), Monday, 29 October 2018 21:26 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

i keep wanting to make a poll for king's record shop but also wonder if anyone would vote

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:10 (one year ago) link

i also picked up her memoir when i was in nashville and i'm gonna read it as soon as i finish doctor faustus (soon) (i hope)

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:11 (one year ago) link

Just got “7 year itch” on vinyl and it’s great

Heez, Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:11 (one year ago) link

Her memoir's good but like all eighties survivors she has different standards about what works: she's contemptuous of Rhythm and Romance, often to my ears her second best album.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:31 (one year ago) link

i expect no artist to have the same ideas about their work as i do

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:33 (one year ago) link

The memoir's best when she addresses her dad. She's a solid writer.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:41 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Rhythm and Romance is the best new wave album.

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:45 (nine months ago) link

Rhythm and Romance is the best new wave album.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:47 (nine months ago) link

hah yeah, I was just taken by "Never Be You" and of course listened to the whole album as a result, and now put it on again. Every song expresses anxiety from a distinct perspective. "lovers all have to stand trial" indeed.

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:53 (nine months ago) link

The guitars here stomp.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:55 (nine months ago) link

yes, that's the song playing right now on this second playthrough of the day. I'm guessing she wrote it after receiving "Never Be You" from Petty & Tench, since the choruses sound alike.

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:10 (nine months ago) link

Never knew about her crazy health problems before she made The List. Also, did she ever find “The List”?

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:15 (nine months ago) link

next album, but "Runaway Train" is so beautiful. I can hear Springsteen recording it...or even her dad on one of those latter day albums.

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:46 (nine months ago) link

We haven't even talked about this one, a perfect song from the flickering synth to the conceit:

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:48 (nine months ago) link

oh man "Halfway House" is fantastic. I think about all the drugs she was taking in this era, and how bad her life sounds in these songs (even if a writer doesn't talk about her own life necessarily, we know how her relation with Crowell ended up): this is more effective than just say no.

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:59 (nine months ago) link

Am I the only one who found Crowell didn’t really add much as a talking head in the Ken Burns Country doc?

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:04 (nine months ago) link

He didn't.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:05 (nine months ago) link

Seemed like he was there mainly as a member of the extended Cash family, similar to Hank Jr.’s daughter, even though he commented somewhat vacuously on Guy Clark and such, and maybe on Emmylou Harris as well, although I can’t recall an incident of this latter.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:10 (nine months ago) link

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