Aerosmith - Permanent Vacation: Classic Or Dud?

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I'm listening to "Angel". It's aged much better than I would have thought. "Rag Doll" is great too. Was this actually any good? I still remember "Magic Touch" and the title track. "Dude Looks Like a Lady" was probably a little lame though.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Also, is anyone willing to defend anything later than this?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Jaded" is great.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Eeeek. Awful stuff. "Rag Doll" is alright, I suppose, the the rest of it is dud, dud and thrice dud.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'll second jaded (phew, another person likes it...)

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Jaded" isn't on PERMANENT VACATION, gents.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Permanent Vacation was the last entirely great Aerosmith record (and actually, it was first entirely great Aerosmith record since Rocks). The only track that might be out of place is the Beatles cover, "I'm Down."

I'll defend two or three tracks on Nine Lives, but I can't even remember their names now.

"Jaded" may as well be a Shania Twain song.

paul cox (paul cox), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

sub-thread on post-PERMANENT VACATION Aerosmith:
- "Jaded" is indeed crap. Sorry, guys.
- "Eat the Rich" had a great riff, despite the inherent ridiculousness of Aerosmith decrying rich people (they themselves are stupidly rich,....duh!)
- "Livin' on the Edge" is *UTTER* shit.
- "Janie's Got a Gun" is actually quite great, not least because it doesn't sound a thing like Aerosmith.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

All the Alicia Silverstone singles ("Cryin'", "Crazy" and....uhhhh...."Amazing") are all completely, utterly, irrefutably SHIT, almost erasing any merit the band earned with stuff like "Back in the Saddle" and "Mamma Kin."

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Janie's Got A Gun" is better than "Jaded", but "Jaded" is still great. "Pink" is all right; I wouldn't change the channel if it came on the radio.

"I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing" is pure horseshit.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:58 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I like "Rag Doll". How about "Tell Me What It Takes", was that on Permanent Vacation or the next one? That was a good one.

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:58 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i will listen to young lust and set you all straight about this...argh, no, i don't think i could stomach it. janie and jaded (as a post permanent vacation tune) thats it.

gaz (gaz), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Doesn't stand up good next to Rocks or Toys In The Attic.

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I can't be the only one who thinks "Janie's Got a Gun" is one of the worst songs ever.

Of course Permanent Vacation doesn't match Toys In the Attic. But I wonder if it may have actually been a solid tuneful 80s stadium rock album all the same.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I think "Dude Looks Like a Lady" is terrific! The Alicia trilogy is horrendous, though, but I think "Jaded" was a bit of a comeback.

Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 17 January 2003 04:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I always thought "Let the Music Do the Talking" (from DONE WITH MIRRORS, not the Joe Perry Project original) was an overlooked gem.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 17 January 2003 04:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"The Reason a Dog" and "She's on Fire," both from Done With Mirrors, are worth hearing as well.

paul cox (paul cox), Friday, 17 January 2003 05:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Remember that video game with Aerosmith called Revolution X? You shoot jack-booted thugs while you listen to mid-90's Aerosmith tunes!

Polo Pony, Friday, 17 January 2003 06:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Pfah. Pump is a fantastic album, and it doesn't sound quite as dated as the singles from Permanent Vacation, although I love the singles from it.

Then came Alicia Silverstone and things went to shit, though I don't blame her ENTIRELY. But she definitely had a major hand in ruining the band.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 17 January 2003 07:35 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Hangman Juruy" and "St John" were kinda cool. The Zappa quote is funny. I could've done without the whale noises tho

dave q, Friday, 17 January 2003 07:42 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"St. John" is a great song.

weatheringdaleson (weatheringdaleson), Friday, 17 January 2003 09:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I want to see someone defend "The Movie."


TMFTML (TMFTML), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard it in ages, but wasn't "The Movie" and instrumental track? I remember liking Perry's guitar tone in that song.

paul cox (paul cox), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

thirteen years pass...

I kinda feel like, although it was nowhere near their forte, this album manages to be a pretty decent "pop/hair metal" album at times. "Angel" is overwrought and nauseating, but "Magic Touch" is p catchy.

but that's my 15 year old ears talking and maybe it sounds like diarrhea to me now, who knows. we can all probably agree "(Dude) Looks Like a lady" is an abomination, no?

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:18 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I hate this fucking thing.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 January 2018 02:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

lol I knew exactly which song you meant before I opened it

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 January 2018 03:08 (nine months ago) Permalink

and yeah that thing is dire

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 January 2018 03:08 (nine months ago) Permalink

it's yucky

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 January 2018 03:11 (nine months ago) Permalink

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