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I checked out about 8 or so of their songs back in early 2000. I liked them, but never really explored their music. I was just messing around on the internet and found out that since I looked at them they released about 400 songs. I think it's something like 2 cd's a year. litterally. Has anyone else heard these guys? if so, what do you think?

Nate (Nate), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm actually surprised that there's not been very much talk about the Mountain Goats around these parts, and it looks like John is modest enough not to be blowing his own horn about the new album, which just came out on 4AD.

I actually like it quite a bit, but I have never heard any of the previous material. I was jarred a bit by what I actually heard, because my expectations were something very different after seeing the "4AD" on the cover. After I recovered, I decided I enjoy it quite a bit: John's voice takes a bit of getting used to, but I love the stories he's telling on this one, and the conflict. Even if the similes get a bit out of hand, some of them are still amazing. And I still contend that "No Children" is one of the best songs of the year. The whole album (Talahassee) is both disturbing and hilarious, all at the same time.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

One of "these guys" is probably reading your post right now.

Lee G (Lee G), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

album search:

Sweden
Zopolite Machine
Full Force Galesburg

song search:

"Going To Georgia"
"sept 19 triple x love! love!"
"prana ferox"

gygax!, Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I think what we should do here is guess which favorite albums of everyone else's are the ones to make John D. cringe and go, "Ugh, no, that was me at my worst!"

(Me, I love the three singles/rarities collections to bits.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

would it be inconsiderate to do a destroy?

**** MODERATOR: REMOVE BELOW WHEN PROMPTED:
(i hope i never have to hear that leonard cohen cover from the last extra glenns record ever again)
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gygax!, Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, isn't that exactly the idea behind everyone at Mountain Goats harrassing John into singing about the monkey in the basement?

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Not only is the cover of Memories a great song, it is also a cover of the greatest Leonard Cohen song ever. Doesn't quite do the orginal justice though.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Also search: Zopolite Machine, Nine Black Poppies, All Hail West Texas.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

so the john darn13113 or whatever that i've seen posting here is the john darnielle of mountain goats??

jack, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

One and the same

James Blount, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

And without getting all mushy, I'll add that Tallahassee is great

James Blount, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

See Vanessa Carlton VS Michelle Branch VS Chantal Kreviazuk VS Norah Jones VS Alicia Keys ad infinitum for how fast we can put our feet in our mouthes.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I love the monkey in the basement song

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i wasn't so keen on the first verse for a while, but that verse #2 of "the monkey song" is great!

gygax!, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

search: EVERYTHING!

john i love you and your crazy ass stories.

two releases last year that did it for me are Ghana and All Hail West Texas.

John, I hear you are playing Macrock this year in Virginia? Is that true?

Brock K. (Brock K.), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I try to avoid talking about my own stuff on ilX0r (unless I'm haranguing local ilX0r people to come to my shows so I can meet them) because it doesn't seem right to do so. While we're on the subject though ;-) I will be playing at MacRock and doing some more touring around that time. And there's an L.A. show (finally!) on February 28th.

As far as S/D, search the new one & the one before it, All Hail West Texas, & also the cassette "Yam, the King of Crops." Destroy with extreme prejudice the song where I say I never liked Morrissey, maliciously mispronouncing his name, because I have since come to my senses and am a Mozz booster of the first order

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks by the way for everybody saying such nice things!

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

To add to the nice things. I know that one mag. critic, gave Tallahassee his pick for #1 album of the year on the Pazz and Jop. Warm feelings of the world unite!

Carey, Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey John, will there ever be a repressing of Hot Garden Stomp? That remains one of my favorite Mountain Goats works, and I noticed it didn't appear on any of the 3BOS comps.

S: pretty much everything, but especially Hot Garden Stomp, Beautiful Rat Sunset, Taking The Dative and All Hail West TX (haven't heard Tallahassee yet)

D: nothing comes to mind

mike a (mike a), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I have since come to my senses and am a Mozz booster of the first order

I heart John.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

For those who need convincing and prefer file-sharing to going out and buying albums, download these (delib. limiting myself to 2/CD):
"Ontario" and "Going to Stalingrad" from FULL FORCE GALESBURG (probably still my favorite album)
"Cubs in Five" and "Stars Fall on Alabama" from NINE BLACK POPPIES
"Source Decay" and "Fall of the Star High School Running Back" from ALL HAIL WEST TEXAS
"The Alphonse Mambo" and "There Will Be No Divorce" from THE CORONER'S GAMBIT
"1 Corinthians 13: 8-10" and "Going to Scotland" from NOTHING FOR JUICE
"Going to Georgia" and "Alpha Incipiens" from ZOPILOTE MACHINE
"Prana Ferox" and "Going to Queens" from SWEDEN
(it seems like JD has a trend of putting the best song on the album as the next to last one)
"Song For Cleomenes" and "Resonant Bell World" from BEAUTIFUL RAT SUNSET
"Going To Port Washington" and "The Anglo-Saxons" from GHANA
"Going to Cleveland" and "Black Molly" from BITTER MELON FARM
"Love Cuts The Strings" and "Seed Song" from PROTEIN SOURCE OF THE FUTURE ... NOW!
"You're In Maya" and "Shower" from unreleased stuff that file-trading scum have gotten their hands on.

If you don't like any of that, it's pretty safe to say that they ain't your bag, etc., as that represents a wide array of styles.

And "Going to Marrakesh" and "Someone Else's Parking Lot in Sebastapol" from The Extra Glenns' MARTIAL ARTS WEEKEND.

Still digesting TALLAHASSEE. That Scrawl CD just finished playing, so I think I'll throw it in now.

John, come play in Portland sometime.

doug (doug), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The only thing I can say that hasn't been said is "The Anglo-Saxons" is the funniest song I've evah heard. John, play Indiana sometime.

Adam A. (Keiko), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I was introduced to The Mountain Goats by a hipster kid in Tennessee who told me, "He's better than Bob Dylan!" Well, maybe not... but some really good stuff anyway. I saw him play at a small club in Knoxville and enjoyed the show, but I was really sold when I happened across "Color in Your Cheeks" on a college station and couldn't get it out of my head for days.

Jesse Fox, Friday, 17 January 2003 00:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, his periodical Last Plane to Jakarta (lastplanetojakarta.com) is a blast. It's one of the rare 'zines that's actually convinced me to buy CDs I've never heard of, just because his reviews are so impassioned.

Jesse Fox, Friday, 17 January 2003 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I Like "Cubs In Five","Orange Ball of Peace", the cover of "The Sign" and that 7" with Alstair Galbraith.

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

There must be a misprint, John, cause it doesn't say that you're coming back to Dublin, and YOU MUST COME BACK TO DUBLIN.

Search: yes

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link

there's an L.A. show (finally!) on February 28th

yay! where? also do a reminder HYPE thread the week before if possible...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

John is nice guy and I only heard Talahasse once...but...ugh...ummm...

there's a whole lot of similes that connect romance to terrorism-kinda stuff but I don't recall any account of actual incidents that would explain why the relationship is LIKE terrorism. I'd kinda like to hear "you shot my cat, you bastard" next to "oh, you are like someone making a bomb" cuz it can kinda sound like zeitgeist exploitation. but the uptempo drummer on that one track was great idea! And I really usually listen to an album at least twice before talkin' about it, but it seems an opportune to bring it up (and it would look weird if everybody was ravin' wildly).

jesus, I gotta go die now. sorry. this wasn't easy for me, folks, so go easy on the flamebacks.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Anybody flames you Anthony I got yer back :-)

(i.e. don't be sorry for heaven's sake we're all friends here)

In re: "a lot of terrorism similes" I must defend myself howevah: that's just one song as far as I know. And now I should stop reading this thread as it is in poor form indeed to participate in a discussion of one's own writing/music/whatevah

(quickly answering questions before scramming: I really want to go back to Dublin but there just won't be time which makes me really sad because I love Dublin a whole lot, no plans for any pre-Zopilote Machine reissues, hoping to come to Portland sometime this year, and the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and that's actually all I've heard. and that extra glenns leonard cohen cover. so don't take this as a "I've heard your work and I say nay! review." I'm damn ign'nt re: body of work but the zeitgeist thing was buggin' me.

I will give another listen and see if I have the same reaction.

Thanks for being a good sport. Whew!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Like Lou Reed's New York done right but that doesn't mean I find time to listen that often. "Going to Georgia" is heartrending spectacular for sure though.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Nadgers. Road Trip it is, then.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The best-of-Mountain-Goats CD-R I made for a friend a few months ago goes:

1. Cubs in Five
2. Family Happiness
3. The Fall of the Star High School Running Back
4. Going to Port Washington
5. Going to Alaska
6. Going to Marrakesh
7. Golden Boy
8. No Children
9. Billy the Kid’s Dream of the Magic Slippers
10. Itzcuintli-Totzli Days
11. Neon Orange Glimmer Song
12. Anti-Music Song
13. Sept. 19 Triple X Love! Love!
14. No, I Can’t
15. Orange Ball of Hate
16. Are You Cleaning Off the Stone?
17. Standard Bitter Love Song #4
18. Standard Bitter Love Song #8
19. Love Cuts the Strings
20. Seed Song
21. Water Song
22. The Window Song
23. Jam Eater Blues
24. Two Thousand Seasons
25. The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton
26. The Sign

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I really love All Hail West Texas!, The Coroner's Gambit and Zopilote Machine and like most of the others. I get really into them (him, whatever) and listen to nothing else for weeks, then not listen for quite a while.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

"He's better than Bob Dylan!" Well, maybe not...

...and maybe yes. Though keep in mind my extremely non-canonical vision of Mr. Dylan. ;-)

the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons

Yes it is. The funniest of which will be me spraying the crowd with whipped cream and silly string before Tor-Twah take the stage to forcibly loosen them up and make them laugh. Then I'll do the same to the band.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link

You can hear an interview (including, I think, his cover of "The Sign") here:

http://www.bravenewwaves.ca/bnmedia/archive_i_mgoats.shtml

just this guy you know, Friday, 17 January 2003 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the songs on All Hail West Texas a lot, but the sound quality is so shitty (I know, there's an aesthetic at work there) that I can't play any of it on the radio (there's an aesthetic there TOO), and that makes me mad.
How's the sound on the other stuff?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 17 January 2003 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, Tortoise doesn't need Darnielle to laugh, that's the reason they had Kevin Drumm open for them on their last tour!

I have no further contribution to make to this thread.

hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Tortoise fans can laugh? They must have learned from all the derisive snickering I direct towards 'em.

JS Williams (js williams), Friday, 17 January 2003 04:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Naw they hired him so they could laugh. They could care less whether their fans do or not.

Okay, I'm swearing off this thread before I "bring the negativity" to Darnielle LoveFest '03.

hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link

At the risk of embarrassing myself in front of the man himself, pretty much every release has great moments, & there's a lot of them. Guess I tend to lean towards the early (_Hot Garden Stomp_, _Hound Dog Chronicles_) & late (_Full Force..._, _Coroners..._) periods.

Live it's a lot of fun (even when kicked off stage & forced to play on the pavement outside the venue). Can't wait till the forthcoming UK gigs & SxSW show, 'cos it's been a long time.

Enough already.

Wondering Boy Poet, Friday, 17 January 2003 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, Mountain Goats John here, never knew.

Loved your cover of "I saw the Sign"

David Allen, Friday, 17 January 2003 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i feel dumb trying to post to this thread when mr d himself is around, but here goes all the same...

horace, mostly similar, but the newest album "tallahassee" has a much more polished full band and studio production, and there are surely songs on there that you could play on the radio. john peel gets away with it, anyway, but that may not seem any guarantee of radio-friendly production. (i wasn't sure i liked it as much as the other albums i have at first but it's really grown on me.)

i say YES to "cubs in five" and "best ever death metal band out of denton" and i note that "anti-music song" is on that best-of cdr and that i kind of like it myself and never thought it implied any real dislike of morrissey, whom i quite like, on john's part. i only have a few of the albums and i can't really pick a favourite out of them, they're all good.

, Friday, 17 January 2003 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

That really would be the best thing that could ever happen to a Tortoise fan.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I only have one Moutain Goats song but I like it a lot. "The Last Day of Jimi Hendrix' Life" on a 'zine 7-inch. You keep waiting for some revelation but it turns out on that day all Jimi did was drink some water & hang around. I love that. I need to get some Mountain Goats, anyway.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

I HAVE A VISION. I thank the Holy Prophet Dan for showing the way and Nicole for the encouragement.

[Likely enough I will simply do the honorable thing and leave after the Goats take their bow, thus beating the traffic -- assuming whoever I'm with wants to leave as well.]

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Aww, I would be happy to ship you the Faygo -- I think it is a worthy project.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

raggy 2 dope

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

afaik youtube-dl.org will not make a facebook video visible

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 23 March 2020 22:58 (seven months ago) link

Sorry I should’ve provided more steps

But I won’t

I tested them tho and they work

silby, Monday, 23 March 2020 23:04 (seven months ago) link

For The Snakes still not public, but two other new home songs are:

Exegetic Chains

Until Olympius Returns

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:03 (six months ago) link

new tape is out (and on bandcamp!)

I recorded ten songs in ten days into my Panasonic RX-FT500. The album is now LIVE on Bandcamp; a limited edition of 1000 cassettes is in production and you can order one on Bandcamp, too. https://t.co/RCftMZ5CpD

— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) April 10, 2020

cajunsunday, Friday, 10 April 2020 15:20 (six months ago) link

Also: gone.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 10 April 2020 18:17 (six months ago) link

said there will be more made, discouraging ppl from paying eBay prices

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:18 (six months ago) link

Yup, onto a third printing now.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 April 2020 21:12 (six months ago) link

feel a bit iffy about making such calls in praesentia creatori but this new release is probably my favourite first-listen to any of their albums

when I come out, can you introduce me as Jagger (imago), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 12:04 (six months ago) link

he's still on here? I thought all his posts were from the early days of ILM.

enochroot, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 12:49 (six months ago) link

Yes, incognito, local custom is to not discuss it too much.

silby, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:53 (six months ago) link

Went back to All Eternals Deck today. Such a great album, some of my favourite TMG songs. High Hawk Season is incredible.

Amazing consistency.

Mule, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:23 (six months ago) link

TMG makes me feel more like a human and less like the ego piece of shit that I guess I am

Mule, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:30 (six months ago) link

three months pass...

New album in October:

https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/getting-into-knives

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 05:06 (two months ago) link

New Song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otp5VzITCgs

cajunsunday, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 13:26 (two months ago) link

My cousin "got into" knives and his instagram turned kind of creepy full of demonstration videos of fancy artisan knives cutting objects in half.

Evan, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 13:35 (two months ago) link

I like how the last 4 or so full-band album titles each seemed geared toward some demo of fandom (wrestling, goths, D&D/MtG, Cold Steel).

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:15 (two months ago) link

this is cool

and I have to tell you in case anybody misses it: the organ on the new song? That swelling, throbbing, miraculous Hammond B3? that's CHARLES HODGES. THE GUY WHO WROTE THE "LET'S STAY TOGETHER" ORGAN LINE. "TAKE ME TO THE RIVER." "LOVE AND HAPPINESS." ~THAT~ GUY pic.twitter.com/UDK8fcIRHO

— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) August 11, 2020

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:20 (two months ago) link

wow

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:23 (two months ago) link

More on said song, including Whiney cameo (really)

because I have waited months to talk about our new stuff here's a thread about what's happening on this song. please do subscribe to our YouTube channel I hate to ask but I'm supposed to. https://t.co/vZ20jK2jZR

— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) August 11, 2020

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:47 (two months ago) link

Appreciating the COVID haircut game here:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/srn0ph9rmqihdynupab9.jpg

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:29 (two months ago) link

A marvelous song.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 17:59 (two months ago) link

...are those not pre-COVID haircuts, from a time when people could rub their faces on each other in a room?

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:52 (two months ago) link

also from a time when you could visit a stylist which they have all clearly done?

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:06 (two months ago) link

now I'm zooming in to figure out if that's a seam on Hughes' shoulder or they've all been composited in

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:09 (two months ago) link

ENHANCE

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:12 (two months ago) link

Forced perspective. JD is at the back of the room and he is also eighteen feet tall.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 23:41 (two months ago) link

...are those not pre-COVID haircuts, from a time when people could rub their faces on each other in a room?

― Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, August 11, 2020 4:52 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

also from a time when you could visit a stylist which they have all clearly done?

― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:06 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

not that I would know but I have it on fairly good authority that none of these people have visited a stylist in 2020 and that this hair is 100% "what happens when you just let it go"

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 14 August 2020 23:35 (two months ago) link

(The pictures were taken last week. When your gig means you have to do a picture, even in a pandemic, you just sort of have to cross your fingers.)

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 14 August 2020 23:37 (two months ago) link

Matt knows how to work his own pomade.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 14 August 2020 23:45 (two months ago) link

'Getting Into Knives', eh? Am I gonna have to ban the Mountain Goats now too?

(j/k, looking forward to this!)

emil.y, Saturday, 15 August 2020 02:51 (two months ago) link

the sound of this song (arrangement + production) reminds me of the Okkervil River album I Am Very Far - orchestral, live-sounding, lightly gothy. I like that sound a lot.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Sunday, 16 August 2020 02:56 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

Another song from the new album:

https://www.mergerecords.com/the-mountain-goats-are-ready-to-get-famous

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 September 2020 16:09 (one month ago) link

fyi before clicking: it's a 29-second clip on Spotify if you don't have an account with that company

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:02 (one month ago) link

fyi before NOT clicking: there are other things on the page including words from John and a link to a page with links to non-Spotify places to listen to and buy the song and also buy the new album

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Monday, 14 September 2020 20:26 (one month ago) link

good looking out: https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/track/get-famous

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:43 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Okay, this is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH7nWoRXSKo

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 October 2020 14:50 (four weeks ago) link

New track from the album up:

https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/track/picture-of-my-dress

About it, plus a sad note about its recording:

On New Year's Day 2019, now a distant world away, Maggie Smith, author of "Good Bones," tweeted a plotline for an imaginary buddy movie about a divorced woman driving around the US with her wedding dress, taking it all around the country. I thought to myself: what if she's taking it to places she didn't go when she was married, what if she's showing her dress the life she didn't live? I hunkered down and a couple hours later I'd written "Picture of My Dress." In March of 2020, also now a distant world away, we recorded the tune with Matt Ross-Spang at Sam Phillips in Memphis. Playing on the track are the Mountain Goats -- John, Peter, Jon, and Matt -- plus Bram Gielen and Chris Boerner for that extra sweetness. We were assisted in the studio by one hell of a nice guy named Matt Denham, who died unexpectedly this week and we are all torn up about it because he was a real one so I am sending this out to you, bud. Everybody else give an extra head-nod while you listen to the studio attaché with the gentle way, a song like this can only be the result of everybody in the room being on the same wavelength and his contribution was a special energy that this world will miss but the next one is presently richer for. Enjoy!

An obituary for Denham can be found here. Based on the many notes on the tribute wall via this page, he was deeply loved:

https://www.colemanfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Matthew-Denham/#!/Obituary

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 15:29 (two weeks ago) link

The online show tonight was very lovely. Look forward to next week's too.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 October 2020 02:33 (six days ago) link

Also really loved the show tonight, and having the chat to get excited with was a great touch. Can’t wait for next week’s stream.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Friday, 23 October 2020 03:40 (six days ago) link

Looking forward to next week’s as well. Absolutely loved the Springsteenified Heel Turn 2 outro

EvanP, Friday, 23 October 2020 20:42 (six days ago) link

New album is very rewarding. Lots of big tunes on it. I keep yelling along to Get Famous. Bell Swamp Connection and The Last Place I Saw You Alive are as goosebumpy as MG songs can be

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:25 (three days ago) link

Don't sleep on "Great Gold Sheep" and "Rat Queen."

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:26 (three days ago) link

Trueee

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Monday, 26 October 2020 16:26 (three days ago) link

Wow---two in one year, this year, has my head bouncing back toward a particular fave as well (for instance)---from my P&J Top Ten comments:
The Mountain Goats--- Transcendental Youth No need to tunnel back into your Mountain Goats stash for comparative purposes; this album stands (leaps, eats tin cans) on its own terms, which acolytes and novices alike will recognize--not because it's a re-hash; just that all these coded hoodrat catacomb testimonies make unmistakably American sense. if you are a The Hold Steady fan but getting a bit frustrated with creative lovehandles, rest assured this contains no fat, does bring plenty crucial lyric and sonic detail, with hungry underdog cunning, zig-zag wandering and straight-ahead momentum. Also, if you're frustrated by good horn sections wasted on, say the Byrne/St. Vincent thing (yeah I'll listen again, or maybe not), well you've come to the right place, as Elvis would say. Kind of a King Creole urban twilight pang-vibe here, times art-rocking MGs leader John Darnielle's metal-compatible spirit too.

dow, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 02:15 (two days ago) link

Putting this on for the first time, I'm moved to wonder whether Belle & Sebastian is a reference point! I mean that in a nice way obviously. (There's a non-nice way?)

imago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 08:32 (yesterday) link

wau @ Rat Queen

imago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 09:12 (yesterday) link

i need to check this out, "get famous" was a real bummer for me, so on the nose and obvious we live in a society stuff, kinda weird for such a great lyricist

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 19:26 (yesterday) link

Don't know how far back you want to go w the jangle, morrisp, but you might like Fields/Aquamarine, which is a reissue of the album and EP by the Individuals, who were one of the Hoboken Three, along with the Bongos and dBs, back in the late 70s and maybe early 80s, real good and you can read all about them on bar-none.com, along with other releases of related interest, like ones by the Feelies and Alex Chilton.
Also I'd try the Bongos and dB's, and reissue comp of pre-dBs' incarnation the Scruffs, along with Big Star, the Shoes' Black Vinyl Shoes, the Bangles, the Records, 20/20, prob a lot more on YouTube etc. I haven't thought of.

dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:43 (yesterday) link

And speaking of the dBs, Holsapple and Stamey have reworked some band material for the mostly acoustic Our Back Pages in Omnivore's MusiCares Covid-19 Relief Fund series (which also incl. an NRBQ set):
...Signature dB’s songs, including “Black and White,” “Big Brown Eyes,” and “Happenstance,” are ably propelled here by lyric and guitar energy alone, and the hooks remain — it’s easy to find one’s self singing along. Tunes such as “Dynamite” and “From a Window to a Screen” are revealed as precursors to the music the two made together later, as they feature “dual lead,” close-harmony vocals as essential elements. Others, such as Peter’s “Today Could Be the Day” and “Molly Says,” were originally recorded by the band after Stamey’s departure, so this marks the first time he’s gone on record with them. When going through the material in preparation for mastering, they even discovered a forgotten track, “Depth of Field,” and completed it for this release; although a version had appeared on a Stamey solo record, it fits in here because it was originally written and rehearsed contemporaneously with the rest for The dB’s’ second album, Repercussion.

Another song, “Picture Sleeve,” is both old and new. A song by this title was in the band’s sets circa 1978, but all that anyone could remember, years later, were the first few lines, some chords, and the subject matter. Using those elements as a jumping-off point, it was rewritten for a Record Store Day single release three decades later, and a duo version is part of this release. Peter’s classic ballad “Nothing Is Wrong,” a staple of their live duo sets, was overlooked during the original sessions and sadly missed. Fortunately, it’s included on this new collection in a version The dB’s themselves recorded during a rehearsal in New York City in 2008.

“We’re still proud of the electric versions of the songs,” Stamey insists, “but a sturdy song should be able to handle a bit of reinvention from time to time...In most cases, it’s a trip back in time to the songs’ origins of being written on acoustic guitars in apartments or hotels..."

A few special guests joined Holsapple and Stamey on the sessions: John Teer (Chatham County Line) and Libby Rodenbough (Mipso) both contribute violin, and Andy Burton (Little Steven, John Mayer, Cyndi Lauper) plays keys on “Nothing Is Wrong” with, of course, Rigby (drums) and Holder (bass). The mastering by Greg Calbi and Steve Fallone at Sterling Sound is a homecoming of sorts as legendary mastering engineer Calbi had previously mastered the pair’s influential Mavericks outing as well as Falling Off the Sky, the last dB’s album. For the most part, it’s Peter and Chris around the campfire at Modern Recording in Chapel Hill, N.C., grabbing whatever was in the room at the time: a toy piano, a ukulele, a banjo, a harmonium, an upright or an old Silvertone bass, and of course, guitars, guitars, guitars.

In addition to 1991’s Mavericks (RNA Records), Holsapple and Stamey also paired up for 2009’s hERE & nOW (Bar/None). For more insight into the genesis of some of these songs, see A Spy in the House of Loud: New York Songs and Stories (University of Texas Press), Stamey’s 2018 “songwriting memoir.” Be on the lookout for A Brand-New Shade of Blue, Chris’s new audio-and-songbook collection, currently slated for a summer 2020 release.

dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:56 (yesterday) link

O shit, sorry! Was meant for Rolling Reissues!

dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:58 (yesterday) link


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