Several versions of "Frontier Psychiatrist"?

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I was at a friend's house and he had Since I Left You on, and when it got to "Frontier Psychiatrist", I was [fucking] shocked! It was completely different from my version. Almost all of the spoken word samples were different and it sounded like crap.

I think they re-recorded them themselves (they didn't sound very "vintage") and then scratched them using CD-Js, or they just laced the scratches around them.

But why would they do that? I can't believe they got into trouble, they can't be that well-known (those samples, I mean). And it was a fucking artistic crime.

He bought his copy a couple of months ago, I bought mine in August 2001 (I think). Anybody else heard these two versions? What's the deal?

Orange, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

The original Aussie version of Since I Left You is different to the version that came out in the UK and possibly later on down under in a fair few places, almost certainly due to sample clearance problems. In addition to the different vocals on Frontier Psychiatrist, there are no "outtamyway, I'm watching television", "are you crazy, that's the test pattern?!" sample on Radio... nor are there any flute samples over the top of the final track.

I prefer the original version.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

the original uk version of the lp too has those samples,
it was only the 2001 re-release that didn't.
hearing 'radio' without them is a whole nother song.
the samples thru-out the lp were dead cleva and cool.

piscesboy, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Damn, I was hoping this thread would be about a Stan Freberg sketch. Oh well, carry on.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

the video that gets shown on mtv, which version is that one? the altered one?

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link

no the original one surely - it was released as a single with no sample problems in the UK right?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

That REALLY confused me. I couldn't understand why the UK album version had rerecorded samples, but the single version had the proper versions despite the fact that the single came after the album. I assumed it might have something to do with a royalty clause but never found out the proper reason.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah. My version doesn't have those samples you mentioned, but it does have the "right" version of "Frontier Psychiatrist". I would really like to hear the original version, but I suppose it's pretty rare, right? (Wasn't there something with a Robert De Niro sample as well?)

Orange, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, this so begs for someone to post the different versions online somewhere, for comparison.

Zulu Kane, Thursday, 16 January 2003 04:34 (sixteen years ago) link

on my copy there's a sample of de niro from midnight run asking for "a bottle of your finest champagne". can't remember which song it is.

michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 16 January 2003 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link

if it helps, here's the sample credits from the copy i have - they seem to have not bothered to list most of the dialogue though, just musical bits:

SINCE I LEFT YOU
EVERYDAY BY THE MAIN ATTRACTION
LETS DO THE LATIN HUSTLE BY KLAUS WUNDERLICH
BY THE TIME I GET TO PHOENIX BY JIMMY WEBB

STAY ANOTHER SEASON
CINNAMON & CLOVE BY SERGIO MENDEZ
HOLIDAY BY MADONNA

RADIO
FAT CITY STRUT BY MANDRILL

TWO HEARTS IN 3/4 TIME
YU-MA BY MARLENA SHAW

FLIGHT TONIGHT
WICKED SHE WICKED BY BILLY BOYO
MORE THAN U KNOW BY PRINCE PAUL FEATURING DE LA SOUL

CLOSE TO YOU
TELL ME WHEN YOU NEED IT AGAIN BY THE ISLEY BROTHERS
STOOL PIDGEON BY KID CREOLE

DINERS ONLY
SPARKLE BY CAMP LO

A DIFFERENT FEELING
TAMMY BY DEBBIE REYNOLDS

ELECTRICITY
RAPP DIRTY BY BLOWFLY

TONIGHT...
TONIGHT... BY NANCY WILSON

FRONTIER PSYCHIATRIST
FRONTIER PSYCHIATRIST BY JOHN ROBERT DOBSON
MY WAY OF LIFE BY
MIDNIGHT VOYAGE BY MAMA CASS/MAMAS & THE PAPAS
HOLIDAY BY MADONNA

LIVE AT DOMINOES
MA BAKER BY BONEY M
DIMENSION 5 BY 5TH DIMENSION

EXTRA KINGS
LET ME IN BY THE OSMONDS

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:40 (sixteen years ago) link

but lets get this straight - are you saying the original version of 'Frontier Psychiatrist' has MORE than just the familiar 'Dexter's Lab' intro and the other lines:

'That boy needs therapy/psychosomatic/that boy needs therapy/purely psychomatic/that boy needs therapy/please lie down on the couch...
but what does that mean? you're a nut! you're crazy in the coconut/psychosomatic/that boy needs therapy/i'm gonna kill you/that boy needs therapy/(grab a?) kazoo, lets have a tune/now whn i count three/th-th-th-th-that b-boy needs therapy....he was white as a sheet/and he also made false teeth'

'have i ever told you about cowboys and indians.../i was in another world.../the man with the golden eyeball/now tighten your buttocks/pour juice on your chin/promised my girlfriend i'd pick up the violin... etc.

is that the original or the later edited version?

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:47 (sixteen years ago) link

'That boy needs therapy/psychosomatic/that boy needs therapy/purely psychomatic/that boy needs therapy/please lie down on the couch...
but what does that mean? you're a nut! you're crazy in the coconut/psychosomatic/that boy needs therapy/i'm gonna kill you/that boy needs therapy/(grab a?) kazoo, lets have a tune/now whn i count three/th-th-th-th-that b-boy needs therapy....he was white as a sheet/and he also made false teeth'

No, there aren't any more samples, per say. But on the original version I downloaded, way before the album appeared in the UK, "that boy needs therapy" was delivered by one, deadpan sample. When I got round to buying it the following summer, all the vocal samples had been replaced by re-recorded ones, in much goofier voices.

Likewise, Extra Kings really misses the cascading flute sample that's laid over the top of it. Anyone know if its still possible to get my hands on a copy of the original?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 12:15 (sixteen years ago) link

hmmmm...i thought the 'boy needs therapy' sample was from Dexter's Lab tho yeh? so maybe they hadnt cleared the sample originally so just voiced it themselves?

and there is flute on the 'Extra Kings' on my copy...man this is confusing...i'll bring my mindisc copy next time i see you and you can tell me if its the original or not

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 12:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i didnt buy a copy but copied it from a guy who did buy it in January 2001 and i assume this was the first official Uk release version

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link

i dont have the dialogue bits from 'Radio' Matt pointed out tho, just the bits that sounds like 'sunning themselves, sunning themselves...' and 'sometimes you dont understand...' - zis is an outrage

clarification on the correct lyrics would be good too!

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Do you have the "Suzy, he's looking at you" bit about half way through the album?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link

yep

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 16 January 2003 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link


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