the Virgin Prunes, Gavin Friday - classic or dud

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every so often american U2 fans run out of U2 records to buy, and so start buying records by Gavin Friday, professional mate o' Bongo.

At least that's the way it looks to me.

Does Gavin Friday and his former band, the Virgin Prunes, have any redeeming features?

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I had "If I Die, I Die" way back in the day. I kinda forget what it was like; "Baby Turns Blue" was a good song if I recall.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

IF I DIE, I DIE is a fuckin' classic for the very reason Sean pointed out ("Baby Turns Blue"), but if you're going to seek it out on disc, make sure you get the New Rose re-release and not the Rough Trade US re-release, as the version of "BTB" on the latter is a truly awful 'remix.'

The rest of the Virgin Prunes output is pretty patchy (as they were really more of a 'performance art' troop than a real band.) Gavin Friday's solo material (well, with Maurice Seezer) is pretty brilliant, if you ask me, the best probably being his debut, EACH MAN KILLS THE THING HE LOVES, which dips handily into the darl cabaret bag ala Edith Piaf/Jacques Brel (whom he covers here), but often ends up sounding like a slightly campier Nick Cave. Some great moments overall, though.

ADAM & EVE (his second) had some worrying Europop moments (notably the dancey single, "I Want to Live," later covered worryingly by irritating supermodel and one-time Adam Clayton wife, Naomi Campbell). There are some nice tracks, but not his finest hour.

SHAG TOBACCO (the third and last, not counting Friday & Seezer's score to "The Boxer") is a deft meshing of his histrionic cabaret stylings mixed with elements of glam stomp and svelte pop. Not quite as cohesive as EACH MAN..., but a fine album.

Onstage, Gavin Friday is both compelling and hilarious (sometimes unintentionally). He is also guilty of encouraging his ol' buddy Bono into all that cringe-worthy MacPhisto shtick (which Friday probably could've pulled off with style and aplomb, but at Bono's hands just turned into an embarassing display of ludicrousness).

Anyone who picks up either a Virgin Prunes disc or a Gavin Friday disc hoping to hear something simillar to U2 will be sorely mistaken and surprised.....and probably not pleasantly.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

That should be "dark cabaret bag," by the way, not darl.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with everything Alex said about Gavin's solo material. I haven't heard enough of the Virgin Prunes to comment on that album, but I think I'll put it on my list of albums to buy.
I also agree that Gavin is quite a character live, and I was amazed when I saw him (Shag Tobacco tour) at how he completely captivated the audience, and for that two hours, he was the coolest guy on earth. Just little things he did on stage like inhaling quite a bit from his cigarette then blowing smoke all around his face and then popping his head out of the cloud of smoke, it was weird, but it really worked with the music and show. My description may sound a little lame, but it was a really entertaining show. The fact that he jumped into the audience and danced around for the last song only made the show better (which I doubt I'd say for many acts).

Also, for anyone who is already a Gavin fan, I would recommend you seek out The Boxer for the opening track, which is one of two vocal tracks on the soundtrack. It's really great.

I always loved the title track from the In The Name Of the Father soundtrack (duet with Bono), but only for Gavin's part.

Jonathan, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Jonathan's dead right about the "In the Name of the Father" bits. Gavin also co-wrote "You Made Me the Thief of Your Heart" on that soundtrack, only the vox are handled by Sinead O'Connor.

Never heard "the Boxer." Must seek that out.

He's not been up to too much lately, has he.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

His official site,

seems pretty up to date on his career. I don't know that there is a new solo album in the works, but the recent news mentions, among other things, a collaboration with Bono on a song for the movie In America, and something about Gavin covering Coldplay's Yellow.

Jonathan, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't even mention in the same breath as bongo or wedge, no matter whom is whose cousin... If I Die, I Die is fucking BRILLIANT. There's a video thingey as well, which is endlessly entertaining, drunk Irish goffs rolling all over each other. Genuinely, wonderfully FUCKED UP. Urgent and key is the scene with Gavin and..,. what was the other bloke's name? Googie? Sitting on each others' laps singing bizarre drunken Irish songs about killing wives and some such things...

kate, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

You're thinking of SONS FIND DEVILS, and it is pretty funny....though I'm not sure it was intended to be.

Yeah, Googie (Guggi?) was the other one. He's a painter now.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

EACH MAN KILLS THE THING HE LOVES, which dips handily into the darl cabaret bag ala Edith Piaf/Jacques Brel (whom he covers here), but often ends up sounding like a slightly campier Nick Cave

In theory I should hate this...ex performance trouper does campier Nick Cave with Wilde pretensions...but its a record I played over and over when it came out and still really like (first side especially) I think the reason is: Its. got. tunes. Nagging memorable ones at that.

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Second side doesn't match the first side, Gaz, you're completely spot-on there.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Gav & Guggi (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

something about Gavin covering Coldplay's Yellow


This sad monstrosity aside, an absolute genius in and out of the Prunes. Recently saw a videotape of the VPs -- Sons Find Devils -- and I was happy indeed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

alex in nyc's post made me dig out my prunes / friday records for the first time in over a decade. i enjoyed them too, esp each man kills the thing he loves. thanks alex!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 01:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Mmm, maybe I am wrong in my irrational dislike of the Virgin Prunes and Gavin Friday. Perhaps I should listen to some of their music.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Virgin Prunes - Baby turns blue sounded really great when i was a goth....

It´s pretty OK now, a lot better than most of the music i listened too.

Jens (brighter), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
Virgin Prunes Remastered Reissues

Mute records report: in Mute News that Virgin Prunes reissues are on the way, in September.

<em>The Grey Area of Mute is pleased to announce the release of 5 remastered CD albums by the truly inspirational and often controversial Virgin Prunes on September 27th. This will be the first time most of the Virgin Prunes catalogue has been officially available on CD.</em>

The official Virgin Prunes website will be previewing the new front cover artwork over the next few weeks.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw him live at the Bottom Line (with The Big No No) in the summer of '93, and it was really fantastic. He was hanging out with Allen Ginsberg that week.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:49 (fifteen years ago) link

weren't they on Touch & Go for like five minutes?

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 21 June 2004 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...
I have decided that I like *If I Die I Die and *Heresie, but not *The Moon Looked Down and Laughed or *Another Form of Beauty. *Over the Rainbow is somewhere on the cusp. Am I totally wrong? (Actually, I just printed out this thread, so maybe that will answer my question.)

chuck, Thursday, 23 September 2004 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw him live at the Bottom Line (with The Big No No) in the summer of '93, and it was really fantastic. He was hanging out with Allen Ginsberg that week.

-- shookout (shookou...), June 21st, 2004.

heh. i was at that show.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

So, I was forced out of the apartment today for the very last visit from our nanny (she got a full-time job). I ran out of practical errands, so found myself needlessly visiting disc shops (though I'm currently on a self-imposed quasi-moratorium, being that I'm trying to get rid of discs instead of acquiring more. Despite this, I spotted the Virgin Prunes re-releases (overseen by Gavin Friday this time). While I surprisingly wasn't tempted to buy If I Die I Die for the third time (I have both the Rough Trade edition and the New Rose I really need a third?), I was sorely tempted to pick up the 2-disc unreleased/rareity compilation, Over the Rainbow. Then I thought, do I need more music from this band? I mean, there are a clutch of intensely great tracks on If I Die.., but a lot of grating chaff as well (by design, I'd imagine). Do I need to purchase yet another disc that I'll only give the odd cursory spin?

I left it there, but someone convince me that I made the right/wrong choice. And cite reasons.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

what did you think of that Bottom Line show?

shookout (shookout), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

It was great, of course. Lots of dancing on tables and whatnot. I also saw him at CBGB's (circa Each Man..), Sine (circa Adam'n'Eve) and at the late, lamented Westbeth (circa Shag Tobacco). The man is a master showman and always put on a memorable performance.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

WAH. In that I have not even seen him once. :-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I gave the 'Prunes a listen two or three times eons ago and it didn't do much for me. Don't know that I've ever actually heard any Friday solo. Seems like it might be worth a try.

As far as the CD, I don't know what to tell you. Usually when I'm in this situation I end up going back to the store the next day. But I think you made the right decision because you can already forsee ahead of time that it's basically going to just sit there once you have it. I tend to see that as a good (and unusual!) omen that you're (I'm) on the right track in avoiding it.

But I also think it's likely that if anyone tries to talk you into going one way, you'll naturally want to go the other!

Bimble... (Bimble...), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I really dug it too. Bought "Adam & Eve" the next day and was really disappointed with it.

shookout (shookout), Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

If you like Gavin Friday solo you should check out the re-issue of 'The Moon Looked Down And Laughed' if you haven't. It's the last official VP release, originally just with Gavin's vocals, (the re-issue restores Guggi's as well), and is somewhat overlooked, though it's definitely a bridge between the Prunes and Gavin's solo material. 'Over the Rainbow' - ugh - it's the more off the wall, experimental side of the Prunes, it's a good collection, but I don't know whether you will play it more than a few times.

thomas, Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

There are some great tracks on Adam'n'Eve, notably "Wind & Rain" and "Where in the World" ("Eden"'s not bad either). It just doesn't have the panache of the first record. Shag Tobacco, I find, hasn't aged as well, but I still love the title track, "Angel" and the amazing "Caruso" (probably my fave track on the album).

Probably won't be going back for the `Prunes reissues. There's just no need, really. I dialed up "Pagan Love Song" and "Baby Turns Blue" and was satiated. By the time I got to the purposely cloying "Down Memory Lane," both my ears and my wallet thanked me profusely for not buying them.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

"angel" is a gorgeous song.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

They don't do much for me EXCEPT their early classic "Come To Daddy" is a pretty great piece of music.

Scott McFarland (Scott McFarland), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

hi Scott! now we know that Aphex, Nitzer Ebb, Clive Barker and, er, Tyrone Davis got all their ideas from 'em!

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I succumbed. I caved in and bought the above `Prunes "rareities" compilation (after reading interviews with Gavin at, I couldn't resist). Am happily not disapointed. Instant indication of quality: whilst blasting "Moments'n'Mine" here at work -- and mistakenly thinking everyone else had left -- a researcher from down the hall came in with a look of abject disgust and said: "What on earth are you listening to?" Heh!

Supposedly, all the re-issues have been sonically "baked," and the sound quality is light years better than the New Rose releases of a few years back. I was even tempted to buy If I Die, I Die.. for a third time. But wisely demured. Over the Rainbow is also appended with some archival photos, which is nice (if you care about such things). Hard to believe from listening to these recordings that they were so buddy-buddy with U2.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link

caucasian walk keeps them out of the dud column, among other things, i'm sure

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 4 February 2005 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw them get canned off at Stafford Futurama in 1981. They deserved it really.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 4 February 2005 09:32 (fifteen years ago) link


Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...
After much delay, snagged Heresie, The Moon Looked Down and A New Form of Beauty yesterday via credit at Amoeba -- and yes, it was the Mute reissues, I'm no fool. Not got If I Die or Over the Rainbow yet (because they were not in stock at Amoeba) but looking forward to them, and I have the CD release of Sons Find Devils around.

Hadn't realized Gavin had spinal surgery a couple of years back! My slight petulance over his seeming musical disappearance is now disspelled.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 May 2005 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

A tall, long-haired chap named NED walks down a path in a park. He stops in front of a dapper-looking fellow wearing eyeliner, sitting on a park bench. This is GAVIN FRIDAY.

NED: Where the hell have you been? Sorry, but I need new music, and I need it now. I'm tired of waiting.

GAVIN: I can't feel me legs.

NED: Fair enough.


Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Sunday, 1 May 2005 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Hadn't realized Gavin had spinal surgery a couple of years back! My slight petulance over his seeming musical disappearance is now disspelled.

Wow. I didn't know that either. Certainly explains a lot.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 1 May 2005 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't heard Virgin Punes in about 20 years, but I can replay most of "Come to Daddy" in my head, so I'll say Classic.

todd (todd), Sunday, 1 May 2005 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

He stops in front of a dapper-looking fellow wearing eyeliner

Well, yes and no:

Yes, that's Gavin with the massive muttonchops -- and yes, that's Guggi next to him.

The three part interview on the site starting here, which talks about the remastering/rerelease deal and so forth, is well worth a read.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 May 2005 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I want an If I Die, I Die shirt. To my knowledge, they don't exist. But I want one.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 1 May 2005 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw him on the street in Dublin last week.

He looks like a Rock Star out of a movie.

The way rock Stars should look.

David N (David N.), Sunday, 1 May 2005 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

He is a Rock Star.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 1 May 2005 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Got me If I Die and Over the Rainbow today = the circle is now complete (for now).

Also, much to my amusement, trawling around the main fan site turned up this news item from last June:


Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 May 2005 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I hope they don't punish me for scoving at them.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link


Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a Dublin expression, Gavin will understand.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 6 June 2005 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link


Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 June 2005 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

you know, scoffing.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link


Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

"Angel" was Video Of The Year on the ITV Chart Show in 1995. Yeah!

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

It recently occurred to me that every NYC music venue I ever saw Gavin Friday perform in -- CBGB, Sin-e, The Bottom Line and The Westbeth -- is gone. :::sigh::::

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 23 February 2008 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

arrrggh I cannot believe I have missed this thread.

My favorite, and in my opinion the most essential of, the allstar cast of Rough trade records circa 1980-83.

The New Form Of Beauty series deserves an entire essay that I don't have time to write this evening. Some of my all time favorite records, marrying theatrical excess and sonic experimentalism with song structure in a way that not much else has since.

They were on Touch & Go, for the last studio LP.

All the stuff was reissued by Mute on a series of double CD's a few years back ad should be findable, in order of amazingness:

New Form Of Beauty
If I Die, I Die
Over The Rainbow (includes Heresie and early singles iirc)
The Moon Looked Down And Laughed (Touch & Go LP)

There were also some excellent DVDs that went around on the net a while back, much welcomed because this was in many ways a live/visual band.

sleeve, Sunday, 24 February 2008 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

well I ripped my Mute reissues and by chance took a look in the wave editor, these CDs are ruined by a truly astonishing amount of clipping and overmodulation. really really disappointing, my vinyl rips sound way better.

sleeve, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 04:50 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

Don't think "Come To Daddy" was nominated in the 10minutes plus poll. Such a fucking great song.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 17 May 2015 14:03 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

Some of their cds are going for crazy prices. I don't think the early singles are on any of them except Artfuck and some reissues have different bonus tracks. They really need a box set.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 August 2017 00:44 (two years ago) link

What the hell does Gavin Friday even do these days? Adam n Eve and Shag Tobacco are pretty neat albums.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:25 (two years ago) link

those Mute reissues are clipped garbage, see my post above. avoid at all costs. that might explain why other CDs are going for more, though.

sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:26 (two years ago) link

one of my favorite bands ever, at least before they "lost the ability to fly" to quote the Heresie 2x10" reissue liner notes

sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:27 (two years ago) link

I've got the Mute versions and the sound fine to me. These are becoming a bit scarce and expensive too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:40 (two years ago) link

if you look at those files in a WAV editor you can see the clipping, it's not just an audiophile issue. thousands of samples per song are flatlined.

sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:42 (two years ago) link

I'll try and listen out for that next time.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:44 (two years ago) link

like, I grant you that the Rudimentary Peni remasters we discussed don't sound THAT different, but this is truly egregious overcompression, worst I've ever seen, and just lazy negligence on the part of whoever oversaw the reissues.

sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:45 (two years ago) link

whomever, argh

sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:46 (two years ago) link

I only bitch about this because I love these records so much. Also a total outrage/tragedy that the original artwork for the New Form series was apparently lost.

sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:47 (two years ago) link

All the albums on Amazon's mp3 store appear to be the same Mute releases

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:50 (two years ago) link

of course (cries)

sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:50 (two years ago) link

Man, I tried and tried to like this band . I was working at Tower when the reissues came out and bought them all. If I Die was alright and The Moon Looked Down Laughed had a couple okay songs, but overall, it was audio performance art and I wasn't into it.

Now, on the other hand, Gavin Friday's solo catalogue is awesome.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Friday, 4 August 2017 01:51 (two years ago) link

Shag Tobacco is one of the clearly overlooked classics of the '90s imo

nomar, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:51 (two years ago) link

man I don't know that shit at all, I like the fearless art/noise vibes a lot more than the cabaret overdose that I imagine he got into later

that being said, I should listen.

Austin, the New Form records are where it's at

sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:59 (two years ago) link

If I die I Die is relatively straightforward and totally amazing. The transition from "Ulakanakulot" to "Decline and Fall" is sublime.

And the part in "Come To Daddy" that goes "I told you not to wear that dress" to him shouting "NO ONE CARES ABOUT MUMMY" is just incredibly awesome. So many other great things about it too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 August 2017 02:06 (two years ago) link

I bought this one when it came out:

It was my least favorite of that remaster campaign.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Friday, 4 August 2017 02:07 (two years ago) link

That's the one I've got. I think it's been heavily abridged?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 August 2017 02:14 (two years ago) link

It's missing the live side of the Part 4 tspe

sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 02:24 (two years ago) link

Colin Newman's fingerprints are all over "If I Die", which is what makes it their most consistent album.

Gavin's "Each Man Kills The Thing He Loves" is such a special record. A blend of his Scott Walker love and a touch of his Virgin Prunes weirdness. Totally slept on.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 4 August 2017 14:00 (two years ago) link

Like I said, I love Gavin Friday's solo discography. You want to talk about overlooked, but brilliant, his album Catholic from a few years back was fantastic and it was totally ignored.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 5 August 2017 19:22 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Really impressed by The Moon Looked Down And Laughed (the Baby label version, not Mute), so many great songs and Gavin's voice is so wonderful. As much as I would have liked more of the early savage stuff, it has it's own fascinating strangeness and odd touches like Gavin sounding like he's buzzing with electricity at the end of "Love Lasts Forever". "Betrayal" is gorgeous, I think maybe it should have ended with that because it packs much more punch than the actual last track. I'm in two minds over whether they should have milked the "my whole world is on fire" part for longer. A beauty.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 23 February 2018 20:00 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

The old irish guy voice on Heresie is brilliant. Second track is like a subway nightmare.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:50 (one year ago) link

I think The Moon Looked Down And Laughed is my favourite now, even though it doesn't really represent their usual style.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:53 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

one of the more beautiful soundtracks i own is the Gavin Friday/Maurice Seezer score for THE BOXER. Very moving and haunting and moody, mostly, and an impressive achievement for guys who afaik haven't done much in the way of film scoring. it has some film dialogue mixed in sparingly, on a few of the tracks. it can probably be found for a couple bucks on ebay.

omar little, Thursday, 22 August 2019 17:45 (nine months ago) link

I'll keep it in mind.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 23 August 2019 20:53 (nine months ago) link

Dude, the live album (The Hidden Lie, I think it's called) is my favorite thing by them. Got it in the cut-out bin years ago, was totally blown away. Lost my records in a devastating home situation and I truly miss this.

Seething, Pathological Hatred of Oldies Radio (I M Losted), Saturday, 24 August 2019 20:18 (nine months ago) link

Have to admit I was getting nervous at remembering the song titles "Caucasian Walk" and "White History Book" but the former seems to be a dystopia in which black slavery is allowed and there isn't much I can read into the latter song.

There's a quote here that suggests the former song doesn't really mean much at all...

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 24 August 2019 20:19 (nine months ago) link

i played "Caucasian Walk" in a disco last week for the first time since the 80s. it sounded incredible. i have never understood the lyrics so figured it was ok to play.

stirmonster, Sunday, 25 August 2019 04:17 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Some amazing stuff on Over The Rainbow (2 disc version). Gavin's voice in "King Of Junk" is hilarious, "Greylight" is beautiful, "Revenge" is a great horrory track.

But what on earth is that secret track after "Love Lasts Forever"? Cant find anything about that. Gorgeous song that must have been from Moon Looked Down And Laughed era.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 September 2019 13:41 (eight months ago) link

Some real surprises in Gavin's discography

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 September 2019 13:42 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Classic. This almost went in The Irish thread.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 October 2019 15:26 (seven months ago) link


Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 6 October 2019 16:23 (seven months ago) link

their glory days, it just wasn't the same without Guggi :(

eons ago in college a friend had a bootleg cassette tape of a show where they did "Moon Looked Down And Laughed" tracks but with the 5-piece (6 if you count Dav-Id) lineup, wish I could find that somewhere

sleeve, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:47 (seven months ago) link

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