Anyway, I'm not planning on buying a lot of Sinatra, but I think ILM should have a Sinatra S/D thread.
― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 12 January 2003 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chris Barrus (xibalba), Sunday, 12 January 2003 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 12 January 2003 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― robin (robin), Sunday, 12 January 2003 02:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Only the Lonely is another great wrist-slitter too. In some way he sort of pioneered the "concept album".
Of course as far as great Italian-American voices go, ol' blue eyes PALES in comparison to guys like Jimmy Rosseli or Al Martino.
But it helps to have friends in high places, if you know what I mean.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 12 January 2003 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 January 2003 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― dave q, Sunday, 12 January 2003 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jeff W, Sunday, 12 January 2003 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― maria b (maria b), Sunday, 12 January 2003 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jim M (jmcgaw), Sunday, 12 January 2003 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link
If you have some cash The Capitol Singles Collection is a perfect place to start too. Be careful about the Reprise stuff; some of it is pretty good but much is garbage. One good LP is the one with Antonio Carlos Jobim.
The Columbia stuff is almost uniformly good but much is in a more big band vein than what was to come on Capitol.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 12 January 2003 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 12 January 2003 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link
'A Man Alone' is the Rod McKuen one Dave Q mentions. the other late-60s stuff with Don Coasta is nice too, like 'Cycles'.
― michael (michael), Sunday, 12 January 2003 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link
I think can fairly safely say: destroy the Duets albums.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 12 January 2003 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link
What does that mean?
― Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 12 January 2003 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 12 January 2003 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link
Destroy: Nancy (with the laughing face)
― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 12 January 2003 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Destroy: The Sunday Show on WNYC. Jonathan Schwartz is perhaps the single most annoying man on radio (is his response to all the music he plays really breathless admiration? does he talk so slowly because he's an egotist?), including Rush Limbaugh, and that WNYC keeps playing his easy listening/cabaret music while virtually eliminating its classical music programming is unjust. I'm still waiting for a Sunday show as good as Eddie Stubbs' (country/honky-tonk, formerly broadcast from Nashville to WAMU in Washington, DC).
― gabbneb, Sunday, 12 January 2003 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tom May, Sunday, 12 January 2003 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Sunday, 12 January 2003 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Funny this thread should pop up when I've just spent the evening listening to In The Wee Small Hours, trying to put Everton's defeat at Spurs in some perspective. Also recommended: his earlier work with Tommy Dorsey.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, 'Live at The Sands' with Count Basie, and 'September of my years' are damn fine.
Destroy: 'Love and marriage'
― James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 13 January 2003 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― pauls00, Monday, 13 January 2003 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Monday, 13 January 2003 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Note that I have no affiliation with Dusty Groove and am only posting this for the potential benefit of other Sinatra-philes.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 30 January 2003 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link
I wouldn't trade either for From Here to Eternity, though I'd think about it.
― B.Rad (Brad), Thursday, 30 January 2003 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 30 January 2003 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 31 January 2003 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link
Re. Sinatra, I have made one observation today. I've heard a few times of Sinatra's supposed influence on Scott Walker, but wasn't convinced. I thought perhaps Sinatra was the only reference point that certain rock critics had as regards pre-rock popular song. But listening to Sinatra's 1962 record Point of No Return (from the box set), I am struck by a great similarity not just between Sinatra's vocals here and Scott, but also between the arrangements here (by Axel Stordahl) and those on Scott's early solo records.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 31 January 2003 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 2 February 2003 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 2 February 2003 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link
'In the Wee Small Hours' sounds positively jaunty compared to 'Where are you?'. Another great ballads album, but darker still.
― James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 3 February 2003 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 3 February 2003 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Monday, 3 February 2003 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link
As for darkness, all these are the 1910 Fruitgum Co. next to 'Only the Lonely.'
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 28 May 2005 09:44 (fifteen years ago) link
― PB, Sunday, 29 May 2005 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I used to be a real skeptic about Frank. The Great American Songbook, fuck that. But what really converted me are all the great bootlegs my Sinatra-obsessed pal here in Nashvegas turned me onto--if you can track 'em down, "FS After Hours," with Bill Miller on piano, is very fine. "Inside Basie: In the Studio October 2-3 1962" is great as well, and listening to it gives you a sense of how smart he was about what he was doing, how in control.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Destroy:Most of what he did after 1970.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 May 2005 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 30 May 2005 12:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I've been listening to In the Wee Still Hours of the Morning a lot lately, and guess at what hours. Man, you ain't never been blue 'till you've heard his "Mood Indigo." It's an odd album, really, in its tenacious consistency. It's one goddamn sad-ass breakup song after another, sixteen of them in all, but you can't turn it off. Amazing.
― kenan, Saturday, 23 February 2008 10:57 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't heard it, i really should. i've heard precious few proper albums. i really want the '75 comeback special in vegas that pbs is always pushing... last year i listened to, or rather studied a little 20 song capitol compilation in my car for a good 3 months last year.
― tremendoid, Saturday, 23 February 2008 11:21 (twelve years ago) link
oh i forgot SANG. i nailed 'i've got you under my skin' and 'witchcraft' doing karaoke with strgn last week.
― tremendoid, Saturday, 23 February 2008 11:22 (twelve years ago) link
Kenan, I love that album, too, bit it's still small beer, or a Saturday afternoon at the carnival, compared to Only the Lonely.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Saturday, 23 February 2008 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
I bought six Sinatra albums - Wee Small Hours, Only The Lonely, No One Cares, Songs For Swingin' Lovers, A Swingin' Affair and Come Fly With Me - a couple of weeks back. Haven't worked my way through all of them yet, but so far No One Cares kicks ass.
― unperson, Saturday, 23 February 2008 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 23 February 2008 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
A certain "demonic" torrent tracker had HQ rips of the original mono vinyl releases of Only The Lonely, Swing Along With Me, etc. and holy crap they're astounding.
I imagine they're still floating around out there.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 24 February 2008 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
Damn I didn't know Mark Murphy had died. Great talent.
― Josefa, Sunday, 13 December 2015 15:32 (four years ago) link
His last words were "excuse me while I disappear."
― Thank you very much, you've got a Lucky Wilbury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 December 2015 15:51 (four years ago) link
Was Bob Dorough's birthday too. Enjoying his tribute shows as well this weekend.
― Thank you very much, you've got a Lucky Wilbury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 December 2015 22:43 (four years ago) link
― dow, Sunday, 13 December 2015 22:58 (four years ago) link
DAMMIT I WANT THESE (a little shorter[?] than print ed. I saw, but also check Friedwald interview on Fresh Air)‘A Voice on Air: 1935-1955’ and ‘Lost & Found: The Radio Years’ ReviewsTwo new releases amount to the most important new Sinatra music issued since the legend's death in 1998By Will FriedwaldUpdated Dec. 10, 2015 6:47 p.m. ETWSJIn terms of the critical perception of his long career, Frank Sinatra reverses the general equation of such fellow giants of American music as Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington. Too many evaluations of the latter two concentrate only on their breakthrough early work, while ignoring virtually everything they did after age 40. With Sinatra (whose centennial is being celebrated this year), by contrast, the remarkable—even revolutionary—albums he made in his 40s and 50s completely overshadow the equally outstanding singing that he did in his younger “skinny” years.
A Voice on Air: 1935-1955
Sony Music Legacy
Lost & Found: The Radio Years
Two new releases, “A Voice on Air: 1935-1955” (four CDs from Sony Music Legacy) and “Lost & Found: The Radio Years” (a single disc from Smithsonian), at last start to shine the spotlight on the singer’s often amazing work in the years during and immediately after World War II. Taken together, these five discs amount to the most important new Sinatra music issued since his death in 1998.
Any serious look at the early Sinatra necessitates a change in focus: The singer later known as the Chairman of the Board was a singularly driven recording artist who all but single-handedly created the modern pop album as early as 1946. Yet in the 1940s, commercial recordings were strictly a secondary medium—the real money was in network radio. That’s where Sinatra concentrated most of his energies, developing songs for as many as two or three live appearances on various shows (his own and guest spots on others) a week and bringing only a select few of these arrangements into the recording studio.Opinion Journal VideoAuthor Will Friedwald on the recent release of two Frank Sinatra albums focusing on his seminal work during the World War II era. Photo credit: Getty Images.
Later, on television, Sinatra was a brilliant singer but an indifferent host; he never seemed entirely committed to that medium—at least not until the “Man and His Music” concert-style specials of 1965 onwards (in which all he had to do, essentially, was sing). Yet he was completely invested in his radio shows, which becomes apparent not only when he’s singing but whenever he talks to the audience or banters with his guests.
There’s a remarkable energy to these shows: Sinatra is spreading his young wings and testing the extent of his powers with the first generation that loved him. At the time of Pearl Harbor, Sinatra was a semi-anonymous boy singer with Tommy Dorsey’s orchestra, but by V-J Day, in 1945, he was the biggest star in the country, thanks largely to his success on the radio and that of his first MGM film, “Anchors Aweigh.” These performances of the late war years represent the absolute best of Sinatra in his “sailor suit” era.
“The Voice,” as he was known at the time, sounds more innocent than he would 10 years later. But he never sounds naïve; the emotional content of his interpretations always cuts deeper than any other singer of the period. He even makes “The Trolley Song” sound wise and knowing, not to mention swinging. There’s a great preponderance of songs and arrangements that he never released on records (like a ballad interpretation of “I Get a Kick Out of You” on the Smithsonian disc in which he can’t help but chuckle at one moment, 10 years before he canonized that Cole Porter song as a swinger). In an era when Hollywood leading men were stoic, unemotional types like Gary Cooper and John Wayne, Sinatra was precisely the opposite—he lets every emotion show. You feel his joy and pain more than any other singer save Armstrong or Billie Holiday.
The spontaneity of these live performances is enhanced by the guest stars, especially when he crosses cadenzas with Nat King Cole, Peggy Lee and Benny Goodman; two particularly interesting moments are an especially zany encounter with hipster supreme Slim Gaillard, and a unique one-shot song done in honor of comic strip icon Li’l Abner. The 4-CD box, which includes all these, climaxes with 10 remarkably intimate tracks of the mature Sinatra swinging with a small band on his final radio series in 1953-55.
The audio quality on all of these CDs, taken from what sound like pristine acetate and glass masters, is significantly better than what listeners heard on home AM radios at the time. The overall effect is that these tracks give us a better idea (than the commercial 78s) of what all the screaming was about. And, in some cases, they give us the screaming itself; the bobby-soxers, those young girls who constituted Sinatra’s first fan base, are audible on many tracks. Far from being distracting, those sounds are a welcome part of the background noise of a remarkable era.
Mr. Friedwald writes about music and popular culture for the Journal and is the author of “Sinatra! The Song Is You” (Da Capo).
― dow, Sunday, 13 December 2015 23:07 (four years ago) link
Didn't Johnny Mercer write the songs for that L'il Abner musical?
― Thank you very much, you've got a Lucky Wilbury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 December 2015 23:52 (four years ago) link
That's what Wiki says.
Happy belated 100th Frank.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 14 December 2015 17:22 (four years ago) link
that equire profile that's been going around is amazing
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2015 18:39 (four years ago) link
hadn't really registered with me how much his output diminished after Watertown. Can only speculate what would have happened if he'd stuck around long enough for Rick Rubin to get his hands on him lol.
I'm listening to some of his mid- to late-60s albums and man this stuff gets pretty dire, even with the occasional big hit/"signature song" popping up. It's crazy how rapidly he became totally irrelevant, and you can't really blame him for not giving as much of a fuck. What was he supposed to do, make a rock opera? Retreat to small jazz combo recordings? He had nowhere to go.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 20:56 (four years ago) link
Been a while, but I liked the ones w Jobim and Ellington. Main thing: he came back strong on the radio, King of Dad Pop, while upstart Elvis was in eclipse. Adult Pop was the way Sinatra, Bennett etc. had been marketed in the 50s, talkin' back to that greasy kid stuff. Even prestigious albums, as albums first became a big deal (not in kid music, o course). Then he became a compulsive self-parody with that Rat Pack shit ('bout ruined his movie career/cred), but for a while there in the 60s, pretty good, and even when not good, still pretty big (on the radio). Uniquely so, for a guy of his generation, in that time segment (might've sucked again by late 60s though, don't remember).
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:23 (four years ago) link
yeah everyone loves the Jobim one afaict, I was just listening to That's Life! (ugh what is with the organ and the female backup chorus?!) and Strangers in the Night. Both generated big hits that must've felt like combative throwbacks at the time.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:26 (four years ago) link
The movie version of Pal Joey is fine anytime Frank is singing, or Rita Hayworth is moving or singing. Kim Novak ventilating "My Funny Valentine," not so much.
Also there's a cute dog doing shtick throughout, to keep your mind off all the transactions in human flesh going on.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 December 2015 18:54 (four years ago) link
(was surprised at the amount of San Francisco location shooting, very early for that kinda stuff unless something Serious like a Kazan film)
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 December 2015 18:56 (four years ago) link
(also i should note that neither of the female stars did her character's singing)
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 December 2015 18:58 (four years ago) link
this one got a lot of publicity and actually went gold:
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 December 2015 19:01 (four years ago) link
i felt the Gibney doc kinda skimps over his gangster affiliations
― i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Saturday, 30 January 2016 21:16 (four years ago) link
this John Lahr essay (year unknown) is a wowser
The result Riddle achieved in “I’ve Got You Under My Skin” was, he said, “a sort of a cornerstone recording for both him and me.” The arrangement starts with a comfortable, loping rhythm that Riddle called “the heartbeat rhythm” (“Sinatra’s tempo is the tempo of the heartbeat,” he said) and then sets up a marvellous instrumental tension around Sinatra’s voice. Riddle always found little licks—certain spicy, nearly out-of-key notes—that would tease the key, and added the glue of “sustaining strings” almost subliminally to the rhythm and woodwind sections. At the instrumental breaks in the songs, Riddle gave solo voices to oboes, muted trumpets, piccolos, bassoons; in “I’ve Got You Under My Skin,” it was to Milt Bernhart’s trombone, which whipped up the excitement until Sinatra joined the song again and brought it back to the heartbeat rhythm where it had begun. Sinatra had wanted an extended crescendo; Riddle provided one that was longer than had ever been heard in an organized arrangement....
After the humiliations of his decline, nothing so moved Sinatra as the spectacle of himself as a powerhouse: big talent, big guys around him, big bucks behind him, big connections to the mainstream and to underworld power. “He used his success in film, in singing, and in business to pump up the persona of untouchable,” Tony Curtis says. “Notice I don’t bring up the Mafia. He in himself was his own godfather. He ran his own family and his friends like that. Untouchable.”...
Sinatra stood before an audience as a person who had caroused with killers and kings. He’d been married to the most beautiful woman in the world. He had won and lost and now won again. All this made him more interesting as a performer than anything he sang. Sinatra’s best songs of the period—“All the Way,” “Call Me Irresponsible,” and especially “Come Fly with Me”—were written by Sammy Cahn, who had roomed with Sinatra, travelled with Sinatra, and lived a lot of Sinatra’s story with him. The material was Sinatra. “Sammy’s words fit my mouth the best,” he told the producer George Slaughter.But lyrics, like everything else, could suffer from Sinatra’s egotism. “Ira Gershwin hated that Sinatra took ‘A Foggy Day’ and sang ‘I viewed the morning with much alarm,’” the singer Michael Feinstein, who was for a long time Gershwin’s assistant, says. “The lyric is ‘I viewed the morning with alarm.’ It drove Gershwin crazy, because he felt the word ‘much’ weakened what he originally wrote.” Leonora Hornblow tells of an evening at actor Clifton Webb’s when Cole Porter was present: “Frank fiddled with the lyrics. I think it was ‘I Get a Kick Out of You’—you know, ‘You give me a boot.’ Cole got up and walked out. Cole had perfect manners. For him to do that while somebody was singing was like stripping his clothes off.” Sinatra revered Porter (he leased Porter’s apartment at the WaldorfTowers), but he also thought Porter “a snob,” whereas Cahn wrote lyrics that had Sinatra’s common touch....
At Caesar’s Palace, sometime in the early eighties, Shirley MacLaine caught Sinatra’s show. “I don’t know what was bugging him,” she told me, describing the evening’s first set. “The magic wasn’t there. He marked it. He couldn’t wait to get out.” Afterward, at dinner, Sinatra asked what she thought, and she gave him her version of a pep talk. “Frank, you really ought to remember how you got so many of us through a Second World War, and a New Deal, and gave us an education in music,” she said. “Please don’t just mark it, because it disrespects everything you meant to the whole country. You might seem to some like a ruin but to most of us that ruin is a monument.” MacLaine adds, “His eyes just…It was like nobody had said that to him in a long time.”
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 20:53 (three years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 21:00 (three years ago) link
woah.. good stuff.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:07 (three years ago) link
formatting putting me off making it through the whole thing but pretty much every paragraph has a great bit in it
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:09 (three years ago) link
I highly recommend the biography "The Chairman" by James Kaplan. It's 900 pages, and begins at From Here To Eternity but boy is it entertaining. Basically, Frank was a mean drunk who drank a lot. And the older he got, the meaner he got.
He also kicked out a car radio when he heard Light My Fire on 3 consecutive stations.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:23 (three years ago) link
That Lahr piece is fantastic. Is the Kaplan book the two-part one?
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:56 (three years ago) link
I've always viewed the Rat Pack's rage/bitterness at the ascendancy of rock with a mixture of pity and "Now you guys know how Rudy Vallee felt, huh?"
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 16:26 (three years ago) link
Nancy Sinatra made it clear two weeks ago that she believed her father Frank Sinatra would not have supported Donald Trump, or performed at his inauguration.
Now a fan has asked her how she feels about the prospect of 'My Way' being sung at the event, after reports that the famous song would be performed for Trump's first dance with his wife Melania as US President.
"Just remember the first line of the song," she responded....
Sinatra himself came to hate the song despite popularising it in 1969, according to his daughter Tina, who said he "always thought that song was self-serving and self-indulgent".
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:46 (three years ago) link
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 19 January 2017 18:05 (three years ago) link
Absolutely insane story. Sinatra was a mean drunk to put it mildly (according to the huge James Kaplan biography from last year) and this story certainly backs that up.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 19 January 2017 18:06 (three years ago) link
Destroy Somethin Stupid without mercy.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 03:15 (two years ago) link
I like Something' Stupid a bit more than you while also forever being frustrated and perplexed by Nancy being so low in the mix. I think of tunes like this as "Italian Restaurant Music."
― Josefa, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 16:53 (two years ago) link
And here's my top 25.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 January 2018 04:13 (two years ago) link
unusually shot on location
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:23 (eight months ago) link
and later in the same film... the bonhomie between Durante and Frank really makes this number fun
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:27 (eight months ago) link
I couldn't put down the first volume of Kaplan's bio over the holidays, highly recommended
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:21 (seven months ago) link
ends with Frank wandering the streets of Beverly Hills, alone, at night, clutching his newly-won Oscar for "From Here to Eternity"
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:22 (seven months ago) link
is the degree of mob connex more or less than u expected?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:35 (seven months ago) link
well I knew about the two most famous incidents (getting out of his contract with Dorsey and his conspicuous trip to Havana) and he sticks to what can be corroborated/documented on those points. The transcript of Frank's closed-door Senate testimony on the latter incident is quoted extensively. With the former he takes some pains to point out how the parallels in the Godfather are mostly fictional - someone may have threatened Dorsey with a gun, for ex, but nobody put a dead horse in his bed.
Otherwise he makes it clear that the mob was just part of the milieu he both grew up in as a kid and worked in as an adult, and that he wasn't particularly unusual in this regard. Guys like Bugsy Siegel and Willie Moore were just *around*, so some degree of involvement (and fascination with them) was inevitable.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 20:23 (seven months ago) link
his mob-financed stake in the Sands is also covered
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 20:24 (seven months ago) link
I'd never really listened to his pre-Nelson Riddle, Alex Stordahl-arranged stuff. Sheesh those strings really are soporific.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 16:27 (seven months ago) link
volume 2 (the Chairman) goes deep into the mafia stuff - kinda unavoidable given the Sinatra/Kennedy/Giancana nexus
― Οὖτις, Monday, 13 January 2020 20:56 (seven months ago) link
I wonder who will make the biopic now Marty has given it the elbow
― piscesx, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 04:40 (seven months ago) link
"The hat check girl, Fran, came in, and said 'Someone just shot Bobby Kennedy', and Sinatra made the comment, 'I hope they shot him in the fuckin' head.'
A couple minutes later, she came back and said 'Yes, he was shot in the head.' Sinatra turned white and became so frightened and panicked... he thought that, while he was singing, someone might shoot him"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 23:01 (six months ago) link
this book is fucking insane
important new developments:
There's a QAnon follower who angrily speculates that Pope Francis is secretly Frank Sinatra, who in reality died in 1998.Sinatra going from a world-famous boozing philanderer to the celibate head of the Catholic Church would be quite a dramatic lifestyle change. pic.twitter.com/0udwW7o2H9— Travis View (@travis_view) January 30, 2020
― mark s, Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:15 (six months ago) link
the end of this reminded me very much of the last chapters of the James Brown bio "The One". Not in the particulars (Frank didn't go on any PCP-fueled cross-country car chases), more in the dynamic of being emotionally isolated (and stunted) triumphal figures with nowhere to go but down. After being on top of the world he basically just regretfully slides into creative stagnation and a sort of blank, resentful resignation: no real friends or family, nothing to do, embalmed in his own legend. Did he think it was all worth it, at the end? who knows
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:36 (six months ago) link
also yes obviously Frank is the world's first 105-year old American pope
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:37 (six months ago) link
Frank didn't go on any PCP-fueled cross-country car chases
Cannonball Run II, yo.
"Gas, grass, or ass, baby..."
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:48 (six months ago) link
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:49 (six months ago) link
lol fair point
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:56 (six months ago) link
Brian Wilson talking about writing "Still I Dream of It" for Frank, how awesome "Only the Lonely" is etc
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:09 (six months ago) link
(thx to Tyler for the link!)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:10 (six months ago) link
this is so great!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 February 2020 06:37 (six months ago) link