Hall and Oates -- towers of strength or mullet meatheads?

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I ask you.

Me, I freely confess to being a huge fan in my early eighties callow youth, between 10 and 13 or so. And why not? Astoundingly radio friendly, had a string of enjoyable hits around then ("Kiss On My List," "Private Eyes," etc.) -- they were even the second ever concert I saw in 1984, and they rocked, I tell you. Haven't bothered listening to them in years, but I have the _Rock and Soul_ greatest hits CD around and it's good for nostalgia flashback. They certainly seem to be one of those acts that was utterly omnipresent for years and then simply went into hyperoblivion.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Good god, Ned, are you psychic? Paul is (as I said in another thread) reviewing the new Stereo MCs album, and I swear to got there is a drumbeat that is a dead sample of "I Can't Go For That" which got me singing, and Paul staring at me, absolutely mystified and horrified that I knew the words.

They were dead good fun when I was about 10. Until I saw the light and discovered Duran Duran and Bowie, I mean, clearly... ;-)

masonic boom, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'd like to know if they got the drumbeat from the original or De La Soul's reworking of same. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

On "I cant go for that" alone, towers of strength.

Michael Bourke, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Hall and Oats are towers of strength. Just swallow this bitter truth.

-- Mike Hanley, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Hall and Oates are crap. I have little else to say, but they amuse me so I'll let them slide. They're still really bad though, remember that Christmas song? The video gave me nightmares.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

ally...trust your deeper spiritual process

-- Mike Hanley, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Well, that is some advice, that.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm a sucker for Gamble/Huff-esque pop, so a qualified thumbs-up to Hall and Oates (or at least some of their hits). That said, nothing in this world can justify the existence of either "Maneater" or "You're Out of Touch."

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, one more thing -- even though "Sara Smile" and "Rich Girl" are nice songs, Hall and Oates should be shot for their version of "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling."

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

This has gone too far, but you know, it don't matter anyway. Strength!

tarden, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I can (very vaguely) recall "Maneater" as the song that got me interested in pop when I was about 11. It was that "oh oh here she comes" hook.

Patrick, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
I still love Hall and Oates. Their song "Africa" (from Voices) still gets the rounds in my CD player. Actually, I own quite a few of theirs on CD ... It's not their fault they were popular at the same time as an ugly haircut.

Elspeth McKee, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

That synth/guitar motif in 'Family Man' (?)I like but the rest is overblown bad '80s blue-eyed soul, fake-passion et al.

stevo, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I have a very boring opinion about Hall & Oates: some of their songs are good and some are bad. I don't own anything by them, but I would like to get one of their greatest hits collections some time.

DeRayMi, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
Just because Dick Hall is a jerk off who has temper tantrums on stage, is sometimes rude to his fans, denies having a son in interviews even though it's public knowledge that he DOES have a son and pays child support, and even though, as far as I know, he had little, or no contact with his son over the years, he's still a very talented musician. I don't consider Dick Hall a mullet meat head. I consider him a jerk off. A talented jerk off! I would have to say Hall and Oates are towers of strength.

Crusty_Black_Pants, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

avalanches use a nice sample of "I can't go for that" on their Gimix bootleg.

Poops McGee, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

I don't quite understand why I always seem to underestimate them. I've heard about 5 or 6 stellar and rather unknown songs by them in a row, culled from who knows where in their career. "The Sky Is Falling" is a fantastic statement on global warming, I think, even if it wasn't written with that in mind.

I should have gone to see them when they played here somewhat recently. Hindsight 20/20.

Bimble, Saturday, 20 October 2007 05:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hahahah just listen to "Kerry" and think of John Kerry. Hahahahahaha.

Bimble, Saturday, 20 October 2007 05:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Oh Kerry! You can carry on! Just don't get carried away! Watch it now, K.!..."

Bimble, Saturday, 20 October 2007 06:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Awesome. Much love, Bimble.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

And love to you, too, Alfred! That video is a treat.

Bimble, Saturday, 20 October 2007 23:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

I didn't know G.E. Smith played drums too!

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 21 October 2007 00:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

I knew it! I kept thinking, "It can't be. He makes too many funny, serious wanking faces while playing gee-tar to concentrate on drums."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 21 October 2007 00:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hahahah. You are not wrong!

Bimble, Sunday, 21 October 2007 00:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

The other drummer was supposed to be T-Bone Wolk, but he couldn't make the gig so they got another second drummer.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 21 October 2007 00:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

I only really like "She's Gone." but that's a good one.

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 21 October 2007 03:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

You don't like "Rich Girl"? What a great song. But neither it nor "She's Gone" sound much like H & O's mega-hits from the mid-80s.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 October 2007 03:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm overall smitten right now with their albums from '77 & '78. I want both of those right now, vinyl or CD, whatever.

Bimble, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm overall smitten right now with their albums from '77 & '78. I want both of those right now, vinyl or CD, whatever.

OK, You ILXor Hall & Oates Lovin' Motherfuckers, Tell Me All About Their Relatively Obscure 1977-1979 Releases

Eisbaer, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

i just listened to abandoned luncheonette today, shit is so awes...

69, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

picked up Rock 'N Soul Party (basically a greatest hits thru '83) for a buck and I'm pretty thrilled. Super bonus: a tri-fold 1984 calendar (more of a poster, really) superimposed over their 12 studio album covers up to that point. I always forget how many freakin' records these guys put out. Also, they had some truly hideous covers!

will, Sunday, 21 October 2007 16:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Did It In A Minute" is my favourite song in the whole world right now.

Bimble, Monday, 29 October 2007 01:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

"United State" from Voices is doing it for me right now. Ridiculous lyrics, but a solid power pop tune.

dell, Monday, 10 December 2007 17:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

Weird! I've been listening to "You Make My Dreams Come True" over and over since I saw it in a Kevin Kline movie. It's the perfect "step up and own the dancefloor"-track.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 10 December 2007 17:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Big Kids" is great .

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 10 December 2007 17:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

Paul is (as I said in another thread) reviewing the new Stereo MCs album,

-- masonic boom, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

Well, that's what he told you.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'd almost go as far to suggest that anyone who says he/she doesn't like a single song of H&O's is full of shit.

My fave = "Adult Education."

Alex in NYC, Monday, 10 December 2007 20:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

totally underrated songwriters.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 10 December 2007 20:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

I saw them live last night in L.A. at a rather small club. They said they played there the first time they ever played L.A. Did a couple of songs from Abandoned Luncheonette they'd never played live before. Daryl said he didn't know why they never played these songs live before. I'm talking about "When The Morning Comes" and "Had I Known You Better Then".

But what really flipped me out of my skull was that they started the show with "Everything Your Heart Desires" which was so terribly significant for me when I was first getting into them and I had put it at the start of my custom-made Hall & Oates compilation.

Bimble, Sunday, 25 May 2008 07:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

I mean out of all the songs they could have started with...I was spooked.

Bimble, Sunday, 25 May 2008 07:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

Sounds cool! How did "Everything..." sound?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 25 May 2008 16:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

is it just me or is flight of the conchords' part time model based on I'm Just a Kid (Don't Make Me Feel Like a Man)?

PappaWheelie V, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

FYI: The latest Lefsetz Letter is all about them.

MC, Monday, 26 May 2008 17:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bimble & Lefsetz fighting the good fight

J0hn D., Monday, 26 May 2008 18:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Well, about a year ago I made a claim here that I was gonna try to listen to all their albums at least once. Well, their late 80's - 2003 albums left me so bored and disappointed that I gave up on them entirely and thereby missed a few of their albums. I still haven't heard "Home For Christmas" (Christmas songs? Blech) or "Our Kind of Soul" (covers) but I can't say the prospect of either of these keeps me awake at night.

The other album I missed was 1997's "Marigold Sky", though I'd heard a few songs from it. And wouldn't you know it turns out to be the ONLY album I like of them past 1982's H20? The only reason I got around to finally listening to it was because I was deep cleaning my apartment and found it under a pile of CD's (I never had a proper CD case for it, someone sold it to me without the case, believe it or not).

Bimble, Saturday, 2 August 2008 02:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

I really really love "Sara Smile."

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 2 August 2008 05:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

What would you say are their most rock-like songs?

CaptainLorax, Monday, 4 August 2008 03:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

What would you say are their most rock-like songs?

Adult Education or Family Man, maybe (at least among their singles).

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 4 August 2008 04:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

Define "rock."

Include "You Make My Dreams," "How Does it Feel To Be Back?", and Hall's solo "Dreamtime."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 August 2008 13:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

Define "rock."

Include "You Make My Dreams" . . . .

Yeah, that's fair. I thought about that one, but decided it was more "pop," than "rock," if that's not a false dichotomy.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 4 August 2008 14:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I love this.

Is there a greater music video than You make my dreams come true? I find that hard to believe

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 23 August 2008 16:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

I played Sarah Smile this week.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 18:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

their actions in the YMMDCT music video looks like they're impersonating muppets.

Fetchboy, Saturday, 23 August 2008 18:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

seven years pass...

i just listened to abandoned luncheonette today, shit is so awes...

― 69, Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:52 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just sayin, Saturday, 19 December 2015 05:54 (one year ago) Permalink

My EMP paper and H&O panel proposal got accepted. I'll join Stephen Thomas Erlewine and Thomas Inskeep.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 December 2015 13:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Kudos!

Die Angst des Elfmans beim Torschluss (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 December 2015 20:09 (one year ago) Permalink

They're basically indistinguishable from the NY Dolls in this video, and I'm not kidding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6MVlSeaWEE

dlp9001, Saturday, 19 December 2015 23:52 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

“Can’t Go” is such bliss

calstars, Saturday, 11 November 2017 19:02 (one week ago) Permalink


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