Sonic Youth: Classic or Dud/S&D?

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So, I'm not really sure, but I think that this is the same person who thurston is schtupping, which only makes the whole thing much more amazing:

http://gpdhome.typepad.com/royalblognl_news_summary/2009/09/dutch-royal-wedding-for-new-york.html

herr doktor (askance johnson), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

I think they got divorced? sarahell mentions that she is a single mom upthread.

Updated 9/6/2009

my mental killfile seems to be working (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

she recently edited Alan Moore's 25,000 Years of Erotic Freedom

da croupier, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

I know the wedding was from 2009, but, still, she is a woman who was married to a royal dude and who very likely was still married to him when she started seeing Thurston. Unless their marriage was really, really short, which I guess is possible.

herr doktor (askance johnson), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wygQmJ59E4Q
Rockin’ records
Rockin’ records
Rock the record
Rockin’ records
The guy’s rock records

Big priest

Rockin records
Rock the records
Rock rock records

Drink the long
Drink the long draught
Drink the long draught for big priest

Drink the long draught down
Drink the long
Drink the long draught
Big priest

He is not (appreciated)

Drink the long
Drink the long draught
Drink the long draught for big priest

Rock the records
Check the record
Check the guy’s track record
Check the record
Check the guy’s track record

He is not appreciated

Check the record
Check the record
Check the guy’s track record
Big priest

Check the record
Check the record
Check the guy’s track record
Check the record
Check the guy’s rock record

He is not appreciated

Drink the long draught down
Drink the long
Drink the long for big priest

Check the record
Check the record
Check the guy’s track record
Check the record
Check the guy’s track record

He is not appreciated

Rock the records
Rock the records
Rockin’ records
Big priest

Drink the long
Drink the long draught
Drink the long draught for the big priest

Check the record
Check the record
Check the guy’s track record
Check the record
Check the guy’s track record

He is not appreciated

Rock the records
Rock the records
Rockin’ records
Big prinz

Rockin records
Rockin records
Rockin records
Rockin records

Rockin records
Rockin rec - rock’s records

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

let's face it...that post could have been a LOT longer

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

Ayo INTERNET

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

Several Dutch trashy tabloids would actually be interested in this, seeing the story Askance linked to. I am guessing it will take them at least two years to find out for themselves.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

Two big revelations after reading these last few posts:

1) Demolished Thoughts is actually pretty nice!
2) The possibility that our future king might have met Thurston Moore!

ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 07:57 (eleven years ago) link

I know the wedding was from 2009, but, still, she is a woman who was married to a royal dude and who very likely was still married to him when she started seeing Thurston. Unless their marriage was really, really short, which I guess is possible.

― herr doktor (askance johnson), Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:09 PM (Yesterday)

Yo dawg, Kim specifically mentions she was dating an erstwhile bandmember (initials: Jim O'Rourke) when Thurston started seeing her.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

she sounds nice

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

since the conclusion of that Elle interview ends w/ Rodham worship, and my last-ever SY show meeant enduring Thurston bumbling through some praise for Obama, my long-held belief that T and K are both fairly stupid people is confirmed.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

now let's not pretend you're really LOOKING for confirmation, ever, from anyone, for that belief

j., Wednesday, 24 April 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

I like much of the music they made together, but I always winced when either of them bandied about words like "bourgeois." Dunno if they're dumb, but they're definitely at their best when the music does the talking.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

NO... MORE... PANTY... LINES

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

whooooaoAAAAA, do you think O'Rourkie left SY because of their sordid love triangle?? moved to japan so we wouldn't see his tears????

yellow jacket (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOCuE_OLyr8

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

which one is the paraplegic?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

that's sweet, kim and thurston seem dumb to you? who are they and who are you again?

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

to be less hostile, read some of kim's writing for artforum in the early 80s....NOT. DUMB.

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

not on pain of death, thx

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

i actually know some pretty smart Democrats. book smart anyway.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

her article on glenn branca, "i only kill in my dreams" is very good, amirite morbs?

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

is there an easy way to track down her artforum stuff?

don't really think that kim and thurston saying positive things about obama or HRC can be read as an endorsement of droning or whatever.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

i might have copies somewhere i can shoot you as pdfs...email me

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

Kim wrote an Artforum article in the mid eighties about rock idolatry that gets cited often.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.fodderstompf.com/ARCHIVES/REVIEWS/gordonritz.html

calstars, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/KimletGordon/status/327131639018835968

so yeah it's gotta be prinz

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Smash the HRMC

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

SACRED COW ALERT!
i don't think they are dumb, but thurston always seems kinda childish.
also, the couple's admiration of some specific underground art scenes during the years is narrow minded and sometimes pretentious in a broad minded kinda way,if you know what i mean.

the new poetry label thing for example, even with the "thurston stamp of approval" that some people bow to i guess, is a total wtf imo.

nostormo, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

but thurston always seems kinda childish

yeah i recently saw 1991: the year punk broke for the first time and i thought thurston was hella annoying and childish. esp since he was like in his 30s when it was filmed

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

kim's always seemed smart as hell. no opinion on thurston, except that i like his music.

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

i don't always like what they like, but i feel like they are really generous people. with their time, helping bands, etc. i feel the same way about henry rollins. i don't listen to his music, but he does tons of other stuff out of fandom that he really doesn't have to do at all. i appreciate that. pre-internet, thst kinda attitude was great. you find out about so much stuff thru them. i don't think i've ever bought an ecstatic peace record, but just doing a label takes time and effort that most people can't be bothered to spare. (i like cheerleaders, basically. being a cheerleader of sorts.)

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

scott otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

Scott, you are Morbs' kryptonite.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

VegemiteGrrl otm

nostormo, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

It was the coolest thing ever that they were on a major label and they handled it so well. Didn't seem to change them much, but it certainly made life better for a lot of other bands. To what Scott said--they've always been great cheerleaders of a wide variety of music and in turn, the art scene in general. They never seemed to abuse the luxury of their position and it always seemed pretty earnest. And that they were married and had a kid and kept rocking the house down and living a somewhat normal life was inspiring to me on many levels. It's hard to negotiate the rock world as you age--especially their corner of it--but SY stayed pretty cool til the end. Like, 20 years of that.

The Great Natterer (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

also, i gotta say, living for 4 years in thurston country, i've never heard anyone say anything negative about those two. nothing. i mean maybe they wouldn't to me or whatever, but usually people let their feelings be known sooner or later. i know people who work for them and with them, and they really are the benevolent elders around here. thurston has always been really pleasant and fun to talk to whenever i've seen him. i love the feeding tube shop in northampton that my friend ted and also byron and thurston have set up and they definitely go out and are a part of things and are supportive. when coco was going to the school my kids go to K & T set up a sonic youth benefit show and gave the school a bunch of money. stuff like that. lots of stuff like that. (in general, moving to freakfolk counry was the greatest move of my life. these are my people here. creative nerds with zero chips on their shoulders. i thank my lucky stars every day.)

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

do you think he calls her princess when he fucks her?

akm, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

creative nerds with zero chips on their shoulders

Love love love this description

The Great Natterer (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

Scott OTMFM. Lived for 10+ years in that area, and my experiences were that T&K were unfailingly kind, approachable, and generous. They did major solids for local endeavors/art spaces.

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

The super cheap house prices in the area that Scott links to occasionally keep getting into my head, making me think W.MA might be a place to relocate to someday.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

tarfumes you still coming to the record show on sunday? think i got a keith moon promo 45 with your name on it.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, will definitely be there! Especially now!

(picture sleeve?)

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

no, unfortunately. i can't even remember what song it is. my gift to you for showing up.

meanwhile, this is up the road from us in charlemont and i want it! but i already have a house. you could host whispery indie-folk shows there:

http://www.trulia.com/property/1044612503-165-Main-St-Charlemont-MA-01339#photo-1

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

Do you have an EXIT sign in your bathroom too?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

also, the couple's admiration of some specific underground art scenes during the years is narrow minded and sometimes pretentious in a broad minded kinda way,if you know what i mean.

i feel i don't even begin to know what you mean!

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

who knows? i guess they could have done better? but how many did it for better and longer than sonic youth? who handled success better? they are not one of my favorite bands of all time but they are the ultimate success story of US underground rock, and they did it all without ever once feeling like they compromised anything artistically (even the artistic peaks and valley's seemed like it was of their own vision)

i mean ppl with legit ties to a scene as small and unpopular and abrasive and NYC centric art scene as fucking no wave are going to be in the rock n roll hall of fame right next to eric clapton, you watch

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

to say it's an unlikely story is such a massive understatement

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link


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