Butthole Surfers- Classic or dud?

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...the old stuff, the new stuff, the fucked up home videos, the amazing live shows, the fact that you need to drop acid to even appreciate most of their catalog... good or bad? And has anyone seen that "family style barbeque" video Touch & Go made where gibby greases the frying pan with his trouser snake juice that oozes into letter formations spelling "SATAN"? What the hell????

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

ok, i have to say that butthole surfers are absolute classic. they were probably the first group i really liked, at around age 12/13, circa 89.

i don't know what it is about them that is so damn cool, they just are (well, were). there seems to be a rather sniffy dismissive attitude of their 80s career now, probably runs contrary to the homogenous images of 'the 80s' that we now see presented in the media.

i always saw the butthole surfers, in a way, as like an american version of happy mondays (up to bummed anyway), a gang of deranged drugged up people who didn't know the limits, and somehow managed to cobble together these amazing records, that were totally off the wall and exciting, but never felt like they were trying to do anything unusual. more of a 'hey, isn't this how music's made all the time?'

i guess theres that whole roky erikson texan acid psychedelia thing that apparently runs through much of texan music too.

i think everything up to pioughd is total classic, pioughd is still very good although the magic had started to fade, and everything post-pioughd is crap, bin it. i think they decided to take the grunge/alt rock dollar in order to fund their other projects. and why not?

that jack officers acid house album is a complete mistake though...

gareth, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I used to cry to the Hairway to Steven album. That is a classic. Classic bad taste album. (I didnt use to cry but almost...)

ty@hotmail.com, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i always saw the butthole surfers, in a way, as like an american version of happy mondays

Wow, that's the most insulting thing I've ever heard said about the Butthole Surfers. Better hope Gibby doesn't track you down! I think I get where you're coming from, but the Buttholes were there first, and they were truly insane instead of just wasted brats. Nothing in the world prepared me for the live version of "The Shah Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave", the first thing I heard from them--it scared the bejeezus out of me at the time. Later on it became a bit more cartoony and easier to take. And by the way, if you see your mom this weekend, be sure and tell her: SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Completely classic, original and unique. Comparing them to Happy Mondays is like comparing them to the Fixx....devoid of merit. Apart from drugs, the Surfers have nothing in common with the Mondays.

alex in nyc, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

A guy with blue hair and a tongue ring once got me to record his band's demo over a tape of them. He said they sucked ass. I saw no reason to quibble. He was well impressed that my dad went to college with the drummer out of the Specials, who were on the other side of the tape.

Greg, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

'Locust Abortion Technician', and 'Hairway to Steven', are worthy of anyones adoration. Thereafter dud, and before... haven't a clue. Locust's mix of Black Sabbath bass, prog gitarz, and punk attitude was a revelation to this pair of ears. Knew a bloke that toured with them whose strongest memory was the obsessive way Gibby Haynes would take amps to pieces and reconstruct them in an attempt to achieve some sound he evidently had in his head, but couldn't yet hear.

Stevo, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Johnny was a midget lesbian boy who stood ten foot tall with a KNIFE...

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Favourite song...ever.

ty@hotmail.com, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

John was a little CRIPPLED midget lesbian boy! I have a great video where he's really making shit up and suddenly he stops and looks confused and says, "I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about", turns around and nods to the band and they go into the next rampaging part of the song.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I liked Independent Worm Saloon. It got me into them in the 1st place! Since then I ralised that their first album pisses over the others, but I still love it. Plus it has a cool c00l title.

Kodanshi, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I wondered how long it'd be before someone started using serious hardcore HTML skillz on ILM. Bold, underline and images in one post is totally over the top.

Greg, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Don't forget the superscript. Rock it, Kodanshi!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Why do you say that? http://209.15.55.238/ubb/confused.gif Hasn't anyone ever done that previously ??? http://209.15.55.238/ubb/biggrin.gif

Kodanshi, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink


Dude, what the hell?

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Weeehaaa! I wish I just changed the background to black, but I know I didn't. Still, you can't blame me for tryin.

Nude Spock, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Let me out of this frickin' box already!!!

Nude Spock, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

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Kodanshi, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Best background color ever.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Anyway back to zee Butties. Classic of course as per Stefo (who i'm getting creeped out with because he seems to be my doppelganger ;) Locust may have the weirder sonics but Hairway is just more fun. 'X- Ray of a Girl' IMHO features the most brilliant, out there guitar solo ever. Also the ultimate acid-record. Laugh? I turned into the freaking laughing Buddha. ;)

Omar, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
It's been a long time since I've listened to them on any regular basis, but I have to say, they are pretty good if you can get past the frat boy nihilism of it all (or if you are looking for frat boy nihilism). They were the last rock band I ever got really excited about. I think a lot of people who only know them by name would be surprised at how good some of the music actually sounds.

My favorite recordings are: Hairway to Steven, Rembrandt Pussyhorse/Cream Corn, Locust Abortion Technician, and Psychic Powerless Another Mans Sac. Haven't bought their last couple. Whatever happened to the album Brown Reason for Living? I remember seeing it on vinyl but I don't believe it was ever evacuated onto CD.

DeRayMi, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

T&G years: classic all the way. Major label era: dud. (Sorry to filfull that ol' cliche, but it's true here)

"Psychic Powerless", "Cream Corn", and"Rembrandt Pussyhorse" being the ones to search for.. always liked "Locust", but it's a tad overrated. "Hairway" and "Widowermaker" were great and quite underrated.

The Butts were also an underrated influence on a lot of current damaged/complex rock.. like Terminal Cheesecake, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, etc... (Sonic Youth were influential in the same way too, but they seem to get more of credit for it...)

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

revisionism has written the butthole surfers out of history unfortunately

gareth, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

They'll always stay with me. Did anyone see the tour video where they set fire to their bus on Michael Stipes' lawn? Do anyone else know that Gibby's father was a well-known Cable TV clown who presented kids programs. Did anyone see the original Electric Larryland cover - titled OKLAHOMA (original showtune font) with a photo of the bomb site. How can we ever forget them?

K-reg, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

They are unerappreciated. I don't actually think their newest stuff that I've heard is so bad (The last I bought was Worm Salon), but I do think the earlier things are better. They could put together a really impressive best of if they wanted to. (Or have they?) There are some pretty funny bits on the "The Hole Truth And Nothing Butt. . ." collection (including a very brief Elvis Costello imitation).

(Idea for Butthole Surfers album title: All Things Must Pass Gas.)

DeRayMi, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

is jeff/ lincoln pinkus still in the band? i thought daddy longhead were great. and who actually was responsible for the jack officers ? some people insist it was paul & gibby, some insist it was pinkus, some king. i think they died after lisa (was that her name)left although "alcohol" & "strwberry" (& the whole of "piuoughd" i thought were simply faboo.

bob snoom, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

and please can somebody tell me what paul leary was playing at with "the history of dogs" album. i bought this for £1.99 and haven't ever booted it out because i find it such a source of extreme bafflement. is he a drug addled twat and nothing more? is it a joke gone wrong? is it just execrable shite?

bob snoom, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The one time I saw them (already relatively late: 1990 or 1991), Paul Leary, I guess it was, kept rolling his head and eyes around, almost like he was having a seizure (though I *do* think it was intentional). But he didn't do it for just one song. As I remember, he did it through the whole show. It was impressive in a way.

I was supposed to see them again, but it was an all ages show, and the person I was going with kept saying we would have plenty of time, that it couldn't possibly start as early as I was thinking it might start. So we hung around my apartment getting stoned. We showed up at the door, and the guy at the door said, "Dude, the butts are playing their encore now," or something like that.

This thread inspired me to get out some of the CDs and listen to them again, and a lot of this stuff still sounds good to me. At the same time, it's not really what I want to listen to these days, though "I Saw An X-Ray of a Girl Passing Gas" should be a more widely acknowledged classic. I remember being very dubious about that song based on its title, but when I finally heard it, I had to give in.

DeRayMi, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

History of the Dogs is kinda good. He's pretty into being stoned. They are all pretty into being stoned. They're music is pretty much, in some way, half-assed. History of the Dogs is no different. I expected something different from Paul, too, when I bought this for $2. But, if you think about the direction the Buttholes have taken, it makes perfect sense. History of the Dogs is more straight ahead power-chord rock than the odd random-key noodling on previous albums (I think we have Gibby to thank for that, actually- you can hear and watch the difference on bootlegs between Gibby's high-pitched single-string meandering nonsense and Paul's ultra-processed cheez whiz spew sound)... Jackofficers, which was Gibby and King, shows the other end, which was acid house. Starting on Pioughd, King was dicking around with low budget drum machines (not sure why, he's an excellent drummer). Independent Worm Saloon was the most rock-ish album they ever put out followed by a pretty-digital hip-hoppy Electric Larryland. King went on to form the great Drain that is very techno-acidic, where he perfected drum-programming. Paul went on to perfect his producing skills with Sublime and the like. Finally, when they were allowed to legally release the Astronaut songs on a different label under the name Weird Revolution, they had the perfect mix of rock and trippy dance music. They cut a few harsher songs that were on the original After the Astronaut. All in all, I see the evolution and it makes sense. To be honest, I like the mellow songs and always have. I hope they continue to make less-fucked up, mellow-trippy albums that have a positive feel. I'm over the screaming/dischord noise thing. They did it the best on Psychic, Powerless and Hairway To Steven. I love the second half of Rembrandt Pussyhorse, but have little use for songs like Perry, Whilring Hall of Knives and Strangers Die Everyday, since I don't lay on the floor staring at the ceiling for a few hours at a time anymore.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Paul Leary has been rolling his eyes around in his head since the beginning. When I saw them in NYC 2 weeks ago, he was still doing it. It's intentional, but he's fucked in the head and he knows it. Also, the music is for getting fucked up to, so there's the joke.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, the first Daddy Longhead album was great, the second was not so great. Drain's "Pick Up Heaven" reminds me of the Steve Madden shoe commercial with the big headed collagey-cartoon character woman walking her baby chick down the road. It sounds like the fucked up music in the background and it is very good. Jeff Pinkus is in a band called Honky that has a new album coming out shortly.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

there was a second daddy longhead album???? this i don't know about - that is - unless cheatos was the second.

bob snoom, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Cheatos is the good one. After that they tried something called Supermasonic and they called it a poor man's ZZ top, but to me it sounds like Soundgarden or something. Basically, Cheatos is better.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

BOO

blackula!, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

boo

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

lick my testimacles, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

norml, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ooh - is this some sort of html hi- jinx??? go on, aren't you just like galen out of crusade, you cheeky monkeys!

bob snoom, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Attempt at an un-BOO!

Brian MacDonald, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Well, now I feel silly for that nice, informative post I put up all in white text. It's all secret and invisible. Maybe I can change it to purple?

Nude spock, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

BOOBIES!

Nude spock, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Deep Purple, Classic or Dud.

stevo, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.waneless.com/squirrel.jpg

I figured this thread was about dead... Don't hurt me!

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I went out and bought "Weird Revolution" without listening to any samples online. What a mistake. I think I was right to stop buying Butthole Surfer CDs after "Independent Worm Salon." I really don't like this. It doesn't have the sort of distinctive sound that their best albums had (and I mean it varied from album to album). I didn't like Beck's "Midnight Vulture" very much, but I think it did a better job of what this CD seems to be going for.

I'm tired of celebrations of weirdness, too.

DeRayMi, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I didn't really like Independent Worm Saloon much at all. At the time I did for a month or two. I like the newer sound from P to Electriclarryland and now this. It would be really boring to hear newer version of what they were doing in the 80s for my, anyway. A weird thing about them has been their consistant ability to disappoint me on first listen. It happened with every single album. Later, I go on to really appreciate them... All except IWS, that is. It's just too classic rocky for me. At the time I didn't think so, but it is their grunge album, full of regular guitar solos and powerchord riffs. Anyway, I think most people won't dig Weird Revolution, even the 14 year olds they're shooting for. It's 6 years old, after all, and it sounds it, too.

Nude Spock, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'd like to think that I don't want them to sound just like they did in the 80's (though maybe I really do), but this. . . ? It just seems that they are following trends a little too much. So many of the songs are in the same sort of dead-pan rap that was used in "Spice," but this is even dead-pannier. I didn't know it was six years old.

DeRayMi, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it was started as After The Astronaut before they got into legal issues with Capitol. I managed to get a copy of the promotional After the Astronaut off ebay and it is Weird Revolution with 2 extra songs: Junky Jenny in Gaytown and Turkey and Dressing. You can tell it's a totally unfinished/in the works album, but all the basic tracks are there and ome songs sound exactly the same, like Jet Fighter, for instance. They Came In was actually better on Astronaut.

The really interesting thing about this band, for me, is the consistent in-joke referencing from album to album. They repeat the same phrases or explore the same subject matter as previous for a line or two. It's an on-going thing and it's the thin line that keeps it all "the same". Just a quick example offa WR: "Shit Like That" he says "I need another DOCTOR!" and "doctor" is sung/screamed the exact same way as off the Widowermaker e.p. where he goes "DOCTOR don't toucha me there, DOCTOR" etc. There's a whole bunch of these references/phrases if you go back and play your albums, you'll see it clearly. It's funny. Other phrases: "empty parking lot" (found in Negro Observer and Golden Showers) and "get down", a phrase which finally gets it's own song on WR. Anyway, there's a bunch.

Nude Spock, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
Ok what do I buy?

-Boredoms fan

Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 13:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hairway to Steven is the best, although I'm also excessively fond of their Double Live "official" bootleg. Rembrandt Pussyhorse and Locust Abortion Technician are also excellent. The recent comp of rarities/unreleased stuff Humpty Dumpty LSD gives a good career overview and is probably fairly easy to find.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 15:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

SMC = OTM

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 15:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Psychic.. Powerless..Another Man's Sac!!!

(I know this is just more of an indie cred/protest issue, but if you can find the used Touch & Go copies, you're a better man/woman for it (and slightly more rich). The Butts kinda did to that label what the ex Dead Kennedys did to Jello Biafra...)

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 15:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

you are in for a rough stretch of road dude

xp

truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:22 (four years ago) Permalink

maybe you should delay the inevitable by listening to the 89 double live alb, it's free to download from their site

http://www.buttholesurfers.com/DoubleLiveMP3.html

truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:33 (four years ago) Permalink

contenderizer is yr ilx hooked up to yr email?

― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:36 PM (4 hours ago)

well, it is hooked up to an e-mail account, but it's one i don't very often. will check in.

twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:50 (four years ago) Permalink

P.S.Y. is the only good song on pioughed IMO

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:55 (four years ago) Permalink

on to Independent Worm Saloon

btw guys there's something on Spotify called "Humpty Dumpty LSD" but I can't tell what it is...album is dated 2005 but spotify is kinda weird w/dates

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:56 (four years ago) Permalink

i forgot about "who was in my room last night"! first butthole surfers song i heard, 120 minutes whaddup

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:57 (four years ago) Permalink

the wooden song is pretty good, god a pirate sea chanty vibe

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2013 01:04 (four years ago) Permalink

Humpty Dumpty is a career spanning rarities set. Actually pretty solid.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 12 July 2013 01:04 (four years ago) Permalink

P.S.Y. is the only good song on pioughed IMO

yeah, that's the best bit anyway. i do like the donovan cover & "barking dogs" (a bonus track), "blindman" is okay-ish.

"strawberry" is my favorite indie worm track. like "P.S.Y.", it had been floating around as a live staple for quite a while before they finally got around to recording it.

also i take back saying "i might even prefer IWS" to piouhgd. had a very hard time getting through the latter earlier today. IWS at least has energy, focus and a bunch of memorable tracks.

twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Friday, 12 July 2013 01:19 (four years ago) Permalink

All the best stuff from the Piouhgd era is on Widowmaker and The Jackofficers Digital Dump.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 12 July 2013 01:24 (four years ago) Permalink

be sure to check out their career rarities comp humpty dumpty LSD, there are some truffles worth rooting from that trough

xp

― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:03 PM (2 hours ago)

truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 12 July 2013 02:11 (four years ago) Permalink

who was in my room, dust devil and tongue are all keepers from IWS

Puff Daddy, whoever the fuck you are. I am dissapoint. (stevie), Friday, 12 July 2013 06:48 (four years ago) Permalink

My copy of Psychic, Powerless... has Cream Corn EP tacked on the end of it, and the song To Parter is called Two Part on that version.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 12 July 2013 08:33 (four years ago) Permalink

A lot of Google sites call it "To Partner" as well. And then there's the case of "Lou Reed" sometimes being known as "Comb", except that BOTH titles appear separately on "Double Live" so I guess they're separate songs after all.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:40 (four years ago) Permalink

Side A
"Moving To Florida" – 4:32
"Comb" 1 – 4:57
Side B
"To Parter" 2 – 4:20
"Tornadoes" – 2:36

1 Titled "Lou Reed" on UK editions.
2 Titled "Two Part" on UK editions.

fit and working again, Friday, 12 July 2013 18:25 (four years ago) Permalink

"pioughd" rules precisely because of the verse chorus verse songs, the DI guitar sound, the alesis drum noises, the shitty casio strings. it's a "fuck you" to buttrock "extremity". reunion shows tragic.

massaman gai, Friday, 12 July 2013 21:51 (four years ago) Permalink

it's WACK AS FUCK

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2013 21:53 (four years ago) Permalink

and therein lies the beauty of it.

massaman gai, Friday, 12 July 2013 21:57 (four years ago) Permalink

And then there's the case of "Lou Reed" sometimes being known as "Comb", except that BOTH titles appear separately on "Double Live" so I guess they're separate songs after all.

― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, July 12, 2013 1:40 PM (5 hours ago)

they're the same song

truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 12 July 2013 22:58 (four years ago) Permalink

lou reed works in a beehive

massaman gai, Friday, 12 July 2013 23:17 (four years ago) Permalink

"pioughd" was the first buttholes album i ever heard. put me off them for quite a while tbh. i like "revolution", "psy" and "hurdy gurdy man" though. isnt there some lame JAMC pisstake on that album too?

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Saturday, 13 July 2013 00:35 (four years ago) Permalink

jeez watching the Buttholes do their cymbal fire thing (and any of their 80s party tricks) on TV shows in the 90s is depressingly lame in a way I can't describe

Maybe slightly more palatable at Lollapolloza or whatever

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 13 July 2013 00:39 (four years ago) Permalink

it's a "fuck you" to buttrock "extremity".

sometimes a lazy, halfassed album is just a lazy, halfassed album

twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Saturday, 13 July 2013 00:56 (four years ago) Permalink

and if there's any band i'm not gonna take just half an ass from...

twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Saturday, 13 July 2013 00:57 (four years ago) Permalink

You want the hole butt, obv

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 13 July 2013 01:02 (four years ago) Permalink

They should have split after 1993 - IWS should have been the last gasp

They don't suit late 90s/00s at all

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 13 July 2013 01:28 (four years ago) Permalink

re: Piouhgd;

1) the Donovan cover was one of my favorite songs for a while and was likely the thing that eventually that led me to go, er, deeper into their discography

2) I first got into them thru Hairway/Double Live, and Piouhgd def seemed like a natural extension, if a bit watered down by that point. The fact this is where Psychedelic Jam/PSY and Something had popped up, plus the aforementioned hurdy gurdy, kind of made it seem just this side of essential. Plus, I still love No I'm Iron Man, though def by this point Ween need not fear

this thread has revived my abiding interest to hear the P album.

the gospel of meth (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 13 July 2013 01:29 (four years ago) Permalink

I knew it was the end of an era when they played lollapalooza...

I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Saturday, 13 July 2013 01:31 (four years ago) Permalink

I think "play" is a bit of a misnomer. Way more of a noise terrorist set than when I saw them on Stairway. All vocal fuckery, shotguns, and ten minute versions of "Hey". It was awesome.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 July 2013 01:33 (four years ago) Permalink

lol I forgot that PSY had singing over it

the gospel of meth (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 13 July 2013 01:36 (four years ago) Permalink

fuck this album!

the gospel of meth (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 13 July 2013 01:36 (four years ago) Permalink

I still love No I'm Iron Man

This track shocked me when I heard Pioughd, 'cause I was working at a lollege radio station in 1987/88 where onetime ('85) Buttholes bassist Trevor Malcolm was also working and making music. And I was listening to the station one morning and somebody played a solo recording he'd made a few days before, just freefrom atonal acoustic slide guitars and goofy overdubbed voices going "I'm iron man!" "No I'M Iron Man!" and so on - really ridiculous. But it amused me, and when I saw Trevor a coupla days later I told him how I'd heard it and really liked it. He acted really pained, said that he recorded the track while drunk and was embarrassed by it and had already erased the tape.

So years later I buy "Pioughd" and hear "No I'm Iron Man" and go "aha!" Maybe that track and Malcolm's earlier recording both derived from some silly shared idea that was going around during his tenure in the band? Seems plausible, given the halfassed recycledness of that album.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 13 July 2013 01:59 (four years ago) Permalink

(Radio station in question was CJAM in Windsor, Ontario btw. Occasional ilxor peepee was a program director there at the time.)

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 13 July 2013 02:11 (four years ago) Permalink

jeez watching the Buttholes do their cymbal fire thing (and any of their 80s party tricks) on TV shows in the 90s is depressingly lame in a way I can't describe

naw it was ace when they did it on the larry sanders show

Puff Daddy, whoever the fuck you are. I am dissapoint. (stevie), Saturday, 13 July 2013 07:30 (four years ago) Permalink

Master of Treacle is right. Once they hit the festival/ bigger stages all the fun of the stage show went out the window. In the 80's you were up close dodging flaming cymbals and piss wands in a club full of smoke, flashing lights and autopsy movies...Last time I saw them firing blanks was the big part of their performance?!?!

I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Saturday, 13 July 2013 21:02 (four years ago) Permalink

The Donovan cover isn't really a very creative cover and it's just good because that's a really good song. Their arrangement is just a half asst version of Donovan's
This was my first time really listening to this band and life is way too short for pioughed

"If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 July 2013 13:47 (four years ago) Permalink

(I just got a ilxor royalty cheque...thanks Sir Lord)

peepee, Sunday, 14 July 2013 14:24 (four years ago) Permalink

:D

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 15 July 2013 01:28 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

:-)

💻 👀 (am0n), Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:19 (two years ago) Permalink

Anyone hear the Melvins record with Leary and the bassist on it?

arthur treacher, or the fall of the british empire (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 18 September 2014 17:46 (two years ago) Permalink

Sitting here listening to "American Woman" and thinking there should be more covers like this of big classic rock songs, that are neither reverent nor pisstakes

juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy), Saturday, 20 September 2014 02:56 (two years ago) Permalink

Am I alone in thinking "Cowboy Bob" is a straigh-up rip of the Sisters of Mercy "Floorshow"?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 29 September 2014 14:28 (two years ago) Permalink

There's a similarity, but I think it would be pushing it to say it's a rip. I'd be surprised if in 1983 when they wrote it the Butthole Surfers had heard a then unreleased demo from a UK band that had basically zero presence in the States.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 September 2014 15:02 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Book about them, Let's Go To Hell, came out a few months ago. It's not cheap on Amazon, looks to be well-done. Anyone have it? One of the few bands where I do kind of want to know what the hell was going on. Watched their '84 performance along with early Beastie Boys the other day...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bezWjn1rT1E

dlp9001, Sunday, 22 November 2015 01:00 (one year ago) Permalink

I often wonder what Gibby has been doing for the past decade. Aside from the live tour, painting and the occasional guest appearance. Wikipedia says he done radio, maybe he does that now?

I'm not sure I've ever heard of Leary's newer band Carny.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 23 November 2015 14:09 (one year ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

did any of the late 90s/early 00s noise scene acknowledge the Butties as antecedents? Been listening to them all day and the similarity in goals/aesthetics/styles seems kinda obvious

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 September 2016 20:39 (ten months ago) Permalink

six months pass...

http://thequietus.com/articles/22036-butthole-surfers-locust-abortion-technician-paul-leary-interview

As much as I loved Indepedant Worm Saloon, it really does seem right that they'd go back to the Locust Abortion Technician way of doing things, if they do another album.

Re: Leary saying this is an ideal time to do another album because of Trump. "Lady Sniff" springs to mind.

I don't think I've heard any similar music in years, I miss this kind of stuff.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 16 April 2017 13:32 (three months ago) Permalink


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