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people ask what have you and jan michael vincent been doing all this time - well ... listen to this an' pass the bong kemo-sabie ...

search - 'tackhead tape time', clail's '21st century party', african headcharge's 'songs of praise'.

destroy - any other tackhead stuff,'echo dreck'.

have you got hold of any good shit ?

yeah, this was friday's question but ya know how time flies maaann !

Patrick Swayze, Saturday, 2 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

is the little axe stuff decent, which is the best PIAB compo - peter stanley smith - where are you ?

yr racer, Saturday, 2 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sure, sure, Racer, answer your own question with a quick follow-up so it doesn't hit the dreaded UNANSWERED QUESTIONS bin. At any rate, let me venture this: Nettwerk Records went on an On-U Sound binge a while back, releasing a few records around the time of Pay It All Back Vol 2 (I think), and at the time it didn't leave much of an impression on me. I certainly loved Tackhead Tape Time, but I found Keith Leblanc's Stranger Than Fiction (not released on On-U Sound, I don't think, but definitely related) ...dull.

Probably the biggest thing for me is that I found Adrian Sherwood an interesting figure, but in the end not much of what he did stuck to my brain. Going back to Ministry's Twitch...which sounded amazing at the time...and it just sounds tinny, cheap and silly. I think by the time I started hearing other On-U Sound material, the love affair was truly over.

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Well, Bim Sherman died last weekend. He sang on my favorite Dub Syndicate song (off of hits vol III I believe, it was a Gregory Issacs cover).

He had the sweetest voice I've heard in reggae.

Steven James, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

three years pass...

revive.

in 2003 there was a surge of on-u sound activity

- the excellent chainstore massacre album .. and the new ghetto priest album (superb update of the gary clail style release where all the elements of on-u were compiled to make a solid album)

in the sleevenotes of Chainstore Massacre were all sorts of details of forthcoming releases .. (2 bad card, mutant hi-fi in particular), now as the relaunch via onusound.co.uk seems to have stagnated .. does anyone within ILM know what is going on as word has reached the precious few that care that Ghetto Priest is now fronting ADF ?

or is there no love for On-U anymore, and i stand alone in my grief for the lack of any new sounds ..

mark e (mark e), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a bit more love on the Adrian Sherwood - C/D, S & D? thread, mark.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

what ever happened to Andy Fairly? His creepy voice was always quite welcome in the On-U staple. I still have his solo album, I think.

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

ta alba ! and donut .. Andy died a few years ago .. his vocals were always a highlight .. and the solo album on cd is somewhat collectable amongst the On-U collectors .. (and to think i used to see it in the £1 bins everywhere !) great album .. that and its sister album by Little Annie .. off to check other thread now ..

mark e (mark e), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

i really like the little annie record with i think of you (in the check out queue, at marks & spencers...) on it.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

just got two african head charge records, and thinking about looking into more on-u stuff. i found a nice rec store in norcal that has some nice ones. any suggestions in the bright cold light of 2009? PLAYERS AND SINGERS? LITTLE ANNIE?

69, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

oh god not Little Annie!

I think this is the thread with the most info:

Adrian Sherwood - C/D, S & D?

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

awesome. good info there!

69, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Singers & Players are my favorite and all three records are great with Staggering Heights probably being my favorite.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i found a nice rec store in norcal that has some nice ones

may i ask which one??

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

red devil, in san rafael

69, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

its a lil spency, but lots of good recs.

69, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

you NEED my life in a hole in the ground. heavy heavy post-punk tinged dub

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

You NEED the first five African Headcharge records actually. They're all great.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

trudat

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

still waiting on an adrian sherwood remixes comp

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

still waiting on an adrian sherwood remixes comp

me too.
never going to happen though is it, label/clearance chaos.

mark e, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

i got MY LIFE IN A HOLE IN THE GROUND and ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES, except the latter came in the sleeve for OFF THE BEATEN TRACK, so i think ill end up returning that mismatch, and seekin em out online...

69, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Missing Brazilians LP is great.

lacipetersonskid, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

afc fans might be interested in this new st echo record that samples "stebani's theme"

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/394057-01.htm

fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

um, ahc that is. not arsenal football club

fuckd and bombd (r1o natsume), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

dreadful news.
style scott, drummer on a lot of on-u material, has been murdered in jamaica.
r.i.p.

mark e, Sunday, 12 October 2014 12:02 (ten years ago) link

david katz provides an amazing rundown on the style scott.

http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/magazine/style-scott-rip

mark e, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link

!!! this sucks. RIP. Love so much Roots Radics stuf.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link

i heard a rumour, and i stress a rumour, that styles wife was murdered the weekend before.

truly dreadful.

mark e, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link

crap, I saw that he had died but didn't realize he was murdered. that is awful.

rob, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link

fucking insane isn't it.

and i suspect the story will never be fully revealed.

bottom line : i love love love(d) style scott rhythms

- he totally suited the experimentation of on-u and yet, when there was a need, he provided the best back bone to the best roots grooves

i would buy records if i saw he involvement.

mark e, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

Saw the New Age Steppers LPs have been reissued. I've never heard any of these! I really like Singers & Players and Creation Rebel and some African Head Charge (and the Slits obviously) so no idea how these have eluded me so far, but I'm not in a position to buy all four of the reissues. Is there a generally agreed upon highlight in the discography?

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

i have not dug into the boxset too much yet, but i believe that the debut album is regarded as the one with most mark stewart involvement and experimental, and then the albums that followed ventured more into the reggae side of things albeit with the usual on-u sonics.

check for yourself on the labels bandcamp page : https://on-usound.bandcamp.com/music

mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

Thanks! I like Mark Stewart but I'm probably more interested in the dub-ier side of things

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

there was a Tims Listening Party last night for the NAS debut.
Mark Stewart did very little, other than post a picture of neneh cherry, but adrian dropped loads of details.
was a lot more enjoyable than i expected.

mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

I thought about buying that box — the music's great at times, but the vocals are a huge stumbling block for me.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

yeah, i totally agree.
i have had a couple of their cds in the archive for years, but it's not often i put them on.
got the boxset out of a sense of duty more than anything.
even now in this digital world, i still have full on pokemon thing re the label re their cd releases.

mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link

still waiting on an adrian sherwood remixes comp
me too.
never going to happen though is it, label/clearance chaos.
― mark e,

to answer my own negativity.
this has kind of happened actually.
2 volumes of 'sherwood at the controls'.
of which volume 2 is by far the most interesting

https://sherwoodatthecontrols.bandcamp.com/

mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

there was a Tims Listening Party last night for the NAS debut.

i wish i had known!

i LOVE New Age Steppers and would find it hard to narrow it down to one but i might just be swayed towards the debut, but then you'd miss out on "Some Love" which surely could win over anyone who had issues with the vox?

"Threat To Creation", the split album with Creation Rebel is maybe the one for the vocal averse though i'm not sure that one was reissued.

i'm loving the "Avant Gardening" comp of "Rare dubs, version excursions and unreleased tracks". The dubs of "Some Love" are swoonsome.

stirmonster, Saturday, 27 March 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

argh every time this thread gets bumped I get mad again about missing the boat on the first AHC boxset

rob, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link

argh every time this thread gets bumped I get mad again about missing the boat on the first AHC boxset

and this is my point.
the On-U cd boxsets are really lovely (heavy box, excellent booklets etc), and they clearly sell out.
so, despite the fact i am not a massive fan of NAS, i had to order it.

mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

if I wasn't in Canada, I would absolutely buy these without hesitating. If nothing else, the only available copies of the AHC set I could find just now were selling for 3x to 4x the original price

rob, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

the best thing on the AHC boxset was an edit by someone from the fan community (who is very involved with the reissues to be fair, but still .. )
proper old school on-u noise xs vs AHC.

https://africanheadcharge.bandcamp.com/track/pursuit-underpulse-motion-dj-edit

mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

actually that set is still available, but I wasn't sure about it since I already own Songs of Praise

rob, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I thought about buying that box — the music's great at times, but the vocals are a huge stumbling block for me.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, March 27, 2021 2:09 PM (four weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

yep, as a first time listener, this is my problem too. Not to disrespect the dead (and I love The Slits), but Ari is terrible on these tracks (including "Some Love," on which she sounds utterly tone deaf). I generally have a high tolerance for singers who can't sing, but I found a few songs, like "Stormy Weather," so unlistenable and unpleasant I had to skip them halfway through. Maybe I need to buy the dub album? Because like unperson says, the music is often pretty great.

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 24 April 2021 11:38 (three years ago) link

hence my point re how NAS is not part of the On-U catalogue i often turn to.
i do love 'Some Love' just cos its a massive tune, and a big part of the On-U story, but i totally get the negativity.
which is a shame as Adrian really put everything into the production for their releases.
not so sure there is an actual dub album.
the recent 'extras' album still has vocals.
it's not a dub album per se, just has the odd dub version ..

mark e, Saturday, 24 April 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

there are 2 really good versions of Some Love on the recent comp, one without Ari but with some added DJ action and one with a touch of very dubbed ari.

i love Stormy Weather too :-)

i love Ari in or out of tune but think she stays in tune on My Love and Fade Away, both of which are also very close to my heart.

what's yr thoughts on Mark Stewart?

stirmonster, Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

what's yr thoughts on Mark Stewart?

me ?
to be honest, i went through a phase just buying his releases out of duty, whereas now, i absolutely love his vocal stylings.
was lucky to see him with the mafia a few years back in bristol, and it was insanely loud/heavy, but what struck me the most is that he can really sing.
without all the excess, his voice is really lovely.
that said, i would never ever want to get on the wrong side of him.
someone in the audience shouted something and the ice cold death stare that mark gave the bloke still sends shivers down my spine.

mark e, Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link

actually, was curious what paul thought as i know a lot of people find his voice difficult to deal with. my partner cannot handle it whenever i play any of his stuff. i figured Stranger Than Love might win her over but she thought that was one of the worst.

stirmonster, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:26 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RTCEvILZEE

xzanfar, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfHsBLuhHo

xzanfar, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

bristol gig : april 22nd - tackhead + mark stewart/mafia + african headcharge + adrian.
if it actually happens (i have my doubts), then this could be the best gig of my life.

mark e, Thursday, 21 October 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link

duhh .. april 29th of 2022.

mark e, Thursday, 21 October 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link

Do you know the The Justice League Of Zion album? I just discovered it recently (it's called Discoverers btw). No Sherwood but otherwise a lot of On-U affiliates. I've been a bit obsessed with this beauty, it doesn't say who the vocalist is but the group Akabu are on backing vocals on other tracks so I guess it's one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WSGXRzwx2I

Noel Emits, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

not one i have ever seen out in the wild, so, no don't have it.
i seem to recall that the cd is a bit of a rare one.

mark e, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

prince far i comp. digital and also on tape with tote bag and fanzine. every track on this is gold.

https://bleep.com/release/257636-prince-far-i-cry-tuff-chants-on-u

stirmonster, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:14 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

New Creation Rebel album coming out in October!

https://creationrebel.bandcamp.com/album/hostile-environment

Two tracks featuring leftover vocals by Prince Far I, one of which also features Daddy Freddy. Otherwise it's deep psychedelic dub instrumentals like they used to do. I love the old Creation Rebel albums so much that this is immediately one of the most exciting albums of the year for me.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 3 August 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I wrote about the new Creation Rebel album (and their whole awesome catalog) in this week's newsletter. It rules.

read-only (unperson), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

What's the deal with the name? Is there a pun i'm not getting? "On - U Sound?"

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

cheers for adding to the build up unperson.
really looking forward to this.

adrian has been on an amazing roll of late : LSP, Horace Andy, AHC etc ..

would have loved to been at the 3d surround sound gig he did recently.
the track he released to coincide with the gig sounds fantastic even in basic stereo.
would love a whole mixtape/album in that kind of style.

mark e, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link

‘More delay! More reverb!’ UK dub legends Creation Rebel return after 40 years

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/oct/03/uk-dub-legends-creation-rebel-return-after-40-years-hostile-environment

stirmonster, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

It's here at last — a 6CD Creation Rebel box set encompassing Dub From Creation, Close Encounters of the Third World, Rebel Vibrations, Starship Africa, Psychotic Jonkanoo and Hostile Environment, plus bonus tracks. Out March 29.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:02 (ten months ago) link

Sweeeeeet

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:27 (ten months ago) link

i've never managed to locate a Close Encounters of the Third World so delighted to find this out.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 16:53 (ten months ago) link

nine months pass...

Another box set coming in February 2025 — Dub Syndicate, Out Here On The Perimeter: 1989-1996.

https://dubsyndicate.bandcamp.com/album/out-here-on-the-perimeter-1989-1996

Contains the albums Strike The Balance, Stoned Immaculate (the first thing of theirs I ever heard), Echomania and Ital Breakfast, plus a new bonus disc of rare tracks. I've already ordered my copy.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 26 November 2024 20:03 (two weeks ago) link

I finally found a used copy of the first Dub Syndicate box. That thing is pretty hard to come by.

I love the On-U box sets, New Age Steppers is my fave.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 26 November 2024 20:29 (two weeks ago) link


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