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The 1st 3 albums are often held up as avant garde/electronic classics. But are they actually any good?
'Games Without Frontiers' is a classic , but 'Biko' i dont think i could listen to due to the mauling Simple Minds gave it. Both are from '3'.

Jimmy Smith, Tuesday, 24 December 2002 13:05 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think Gabriel ever wrote a song that was without flaw. I loved "And Through the Wire" and "I Don't Remember" .. but there was always something missing or some added element of cheese ... Albumwise, there were always some duds on his records, so ... OK, I'll say it: "Overrated."


dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 13:16 (twenty years ago) link

First album I think is great and well worth hearing, though he was still trying to find a consistent solo career style. I was listening to it for the first time in a long while earlier this year, and though the music I feel still holds up well, the lyrics do not, filled with the (rather corny, IMO) puns he made in Genesis.

Anyway, "Moribund the Burgermeister" is a great, weird number, but there's also not much separating it from past work. "Modern Love" is a no frills rock tune, very much no way he would play something like that today (sadly; he could use an injection of livelihood on his last albums), "Excuse Me" is a semi-comic relief number with barbershop quartet opening. "Humdrum" is also very Genesis-like, but I think it's the best tune on the album.

The second album I've actually never heard, in all my years of being a fan. I keep meaning to pick it up, especially since everything's been remastered. People say it's pretty underrated...

I never really liked his third album, myself. The songs just never really clicked with me, except maybe "Intruder".

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 15:05 (twenty years ago) link

Everything up through the quizzically named SECURITY (a title which Garbriel claimed he had nothing to do with) is great. After that? FEh.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 16:11 (twenty years ago) link

i've never listened to any of them EXCEPT "Biko"

i've never heard the simple minds version, but Robert Wyatt covers it, and beautifully at that

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 17:42 (twenty years ago) link

Pretty much what Alex said except change "great" to "good."

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 24 December 2002 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

I always got the feeling that his first three albums are like Big Star's albums or watching Citizen Kane. You've by now heard it all before in other bands.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 20:47 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think Gabriel ever wrote a song that was without flaw

For me, "San Jacinto" and "Rhythm of the Heat" come damn close...

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 05:04 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

So!

"Red Rain"!

roxymuzak, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh yeah man, I have totally been on a Red Rain trip of late. Just can't get away from that song at all.

Bimble, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Listened to it driving through the farmland surrounding Bristol, VA in bright, bright sunlight following a hotel morning today. 100% arcadian.

roxymuzak, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Listen to the sound of the drums before the break!

Bimble, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

Fantastic! I grew up in VA.

Bimble, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I <3 Daniel Lanois 4-ever.

roxymuzak, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, "Red Rain". "Mercy Street" too. Something about that line: "swear they moved that sign."

It's funny, because I was browsing YouTube and had just finished watching this when I saw this thread. These two have always struck me as two sides of the same coin, both following a particularly English trail of slightly ethereal slightly mad overflowingly creative whimsy.

Lostandfound, Monday, 10 March 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Peter looks so young there!

Were he and Kate ever in a romantic relationship with one another? I thought I remembered reading this, but I can't find anything confirming it. I must have made it up.

roxymuzak, Monday, 10 March 2008 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Doesn't he? I'm not sure, but it would be kind of weird, like siblings making out. Which is also creepily awesome in their case (and only in their case, right?).

Lostandfound, Monday, 10 March 2008 04:50 (fifteen years ago) link

aaaaaaahhhhh! It's the performance of "Another Day"! I haven't seen this in awhile. WOW. Thanks!

Bimble, Monday, 10 March 2008 05:09 (fifteen years ago) link

No really, this has made my night. Oh my god.

Bimble, Monday, 10 March 2008 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I know. Mine too.

Lostandfound, Monday, 10 March 2008 07:10 (fifteen years ago) link

New album is called "Big Blue Balls"!!

King Boy Pato, Monday, 10 March 2008 07:11 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Here Comes The Flood

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 28 February 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

IS HE GOTH OR NOT? LOOK AT THAT PICTURE!

He's going to marry Kate Bush and they're going to rein as king and queen of the desert island. And we're all going to be happy. Just you wait.

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Peter Gabriel is even more heavenly than Brian Eno, and that's saying something.

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Here Comes The Flood

― Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You)

Here comes the late-night revive of the borderline goth thread by drunken Bimble, amirite?

ilxor, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahahah too right

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 1 March 2009 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Still More Goth Than Your Cat's Asshole (Bimble), Sunday, 1 March 2009 10:58 (fourteen years ago) link

HCTF = epic

cutty, Sunday, 1 March 2009 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link

whoa kate in the clip

cutty, Sunday, 1 March 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

As good as that is, the version on Fripp's Exposure is ten times better.

I saw PG live on the So tour, which was some big poppy stuff amid a lot of other stuff I didn't really get. And yet it was still a quasi-religious experience, although I couldn't really tell you why.

mitya, Sunday, 1 March 2009 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

san jacinto KILLIN me right now

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

BLAST FROM THE PAST:

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Is it just me, or does Pete look more than a little like Ed Helms in that HCTF clip?

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 April 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

SAN JACINTO
SAN JACINTO

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Monday, 6 April 2009 08:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Just to take me to heaven on that live album, goddamnit, wings, take me...take me there

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Monday, 6 April 2009 08:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Solsbury Hill.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Monday, 6 April 2009 08:29 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

HERE COMES THE FLOOD

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

"White Shadow" is awesome! Are there any other songs in this world where pedal steel sounds so epic?

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Thursday, 5 November 2009 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

not a rhetorical question btw

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Thursday, 5 November 2009 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Passioni: walloping beats, Fairlights backing violin lines, something called "Arghul drones," * a boys choir singing "With This Love," a track called "It is Accomplished" waiting to become a pop song. I love this album.

* I learned much about music by studying Peter Gabriel instrumental credits.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link

It's a good'n'.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

Sharing "your eyes" with a stranger at a bar

calstars, Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:39 (eight years ago) link

It must be hard holding that jukebox up over your head.

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 27 September 2014 05:03 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Someone tell Axl that it has been 12 years since the last Peter Gabriel album of original material.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 November 2014 14:30 (eight years ago) link

he said recently maybe he'll be done soon. yeah right!

akm, Friday, 7 November 2014 14:54 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

PG is part of a group that teaches the world how to take better videos when filming brutality as a firsthand witness.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/teaching-citizens-shoot-better-video-witness-brutality/

pilate is my cogod (Crabbits), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 00:58 (eight years ago) link

Aw he's a good guy

Birdy ost is my favorite pg album now. No words just vibes for miles.

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 01:23 (eight years ago) link

eight months pass...

Has Gabriel ever spoke about Gary Brooker from Procol Harum as being an influence? Listening to A Salty Dog right now and man sometimes the melody and phrasing and even tone of his voice reminds me of Gabriel (or I guess it could be an coincidence or even vice versa as they are essentially contemporaries)

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:31 (seven years ago) link

He supposedly has brought him up as an influence, though I don't know when/where. At the least Brooker (and most of Genesis, a couple of years later) all went to Charterhouse.

And, ha!, I've never heard this before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct_R6CPD5-o

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 14:35 (seven years ago) link

Sounds like the end credits song of a film about an eminent English scientist slowly succumbing to Alzheimer’s

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Thursday, 9 March 2023 13:13 (two months ago) link

good song; he played this on the back to front tour as 'daddy long legs', it's better with actual lyrics now. also snagged tickets; too expensive, assuming it's the last time I'll ever see him.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 9 March 2023 18:57 (two months ago) link

got tickets for his October show here...pretty excited. Not cheap but I guess pretty reasonable in the current climate. Got 6th row of the first deck for $110 each + bullshit.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:52 (two months ago) link

I'm going too! Glad he scheduled a Twin Cities date so I didn't have to arrange a whole trip out of state to see him.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:29 (two months ago) link

yeah I had almost pulled the trigger on Chicago

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:35 (two months ago) link

L-R: Don Johnson, Peter Gabriel, Tony Levin

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:04 (two months ago) link

the best Genesis lineup imo

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:39 (two months ago) link

Needs more Glenn Frey

carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:25 (two months ago) link

I dunno, I was never a fan of the “Glennesis” era of the band tbh

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:48 (two months ago) link

Wrapped up in some powdered wool-I guess I'm losing touch.
Don't tell me I'm dying, 'cause I ain't changed that much.
The only sound is water drops, I wonder where the hell I am

"Do it just the way we planned
You be cool for twenty hours and I'll pay you twenty grand"

I'm sorry it went down like this
And someone had to lose, it's the nature of the business

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:06 (two months ago) link

Glennesis, roffles

You can check out of the home by the sea any time you like, but you can never leave

There's gonna be a heartache tonight, o lord

carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:20 (two months ago) link

Glennesis rules

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:22 (two months ago) link

Yeah but what about Don HenEsis?

carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:26 (two months ago) link

This is the end of Don HenEsis

carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:26 (two months ago) link

All she wants to do is dance (and she can't)

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:28 (two months ago) link

Selling Laurel Canyon by the Pound

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:30 (two months ago) link

Lulz

Desperadomino

For context:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiihxkda8sQ

carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:32 (two months ago) link

classic ep. so many terrible line readings

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:26 (two months ago) link

Okay I was pretty happy with "DesperaDomino" until I remembered this is a Gabriel thread, so I ought to focus on Gabriel/Eagles confluences, as opposed to Genesis/Eagles confluence.

Here's the best I could come up with:

"Biko, sweet darling, you get the best of my love"

carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:41 (two months ago) link

In Your Lyin' Eyes?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:45 (two months ago) link

^ very good, bravo Josh

carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:46 (two months ago) link

shock the peaceful easy monkey

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 22:10 (two months ago) link

And a new one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9DLlv7FuYs

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 April 2023 15:44 (one month ago) link

Per Bandcamp mailout:

The song features Soweto Gospel Choir, who were recorded at High Seas Studios in South Africa.

'The older I get, I probably don't get any smarter, but I have learned a few things and it makes a lot of sense to me that we are not these independent islands that we like to think we are, that we are part of a whole. If we can see ourselves as better connected, still messed up individuals, but as part of a whole, then maybe there's something to learn?'

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 April 2023 15:45 (one month ago) link

I can't explain what exactly but something in his singing lines reminds me of Mia by Gorki (former Flemish band, RIP Luc De Vos 2014)

StanM, Thursday, 6 April 2023 16:13 (one month ago) link

While I'm not super-excited about any of the individual images accompanying these songs (or the songs themselves, for that matter), I do appreciate how PG is emphasizing the work of the respective artists by discussing them in his Full Moon Club videos. It's as if he decided to do this instead of making traditional music videos, which seems like the right move at this point (more dignified, dare it be said).

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 6 April 2023 17:42 (one month ago) link

iirc each of the songs on Us got a respective commissioned artist interpretation.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 April 2023 19:29 (one month ago) link

I'd forgotten that — I dig out Us about once a decade.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 6 April 2023 19:40 (one month ago) link

A little late but:

The Rhythm of the Heat Is On

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 20:34 (one month ago) link

So we have what could be 1/3 of the album out so far and i imagine I'm not alone in being well... probably satisfied, not disappointed per se, but I have the feeling that we haven't yet hear THE song from this album. Each album has them and they aren't always the single or most popular song; I'd say Mercy Street, Here Comes the Flood, Indigo, Intruder, Family and the Fishing Net, Washing of the Water, Signal to Noise....I just don't feel like we've gotten that yet from this album. I like all of this stuff, but I'm worried I haven't heard the 'singular' song from this album yet.I guess if one isn't forthcoming it would be the Court, and while I like that, it's a bit short of the goal.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 13 April 2023 05:45 (one month ago) link

yeah… I stan pretty hard but nothing has grabbed me yet.

poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Saturday, 15 April 2023 21:52 (one month ago) link

This guy has synched the audio from Plays Live to a couple of horrendously shitty audience videos of the 1983 tour and it's STILL amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwh5D4mwIQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LveARHkcYmk

plus "the outtakes" - tracks played on those three audience videos not on Plays Live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wUKkOcLqCY

StanM, Monday, 24 April 2023 17:29 (one month ago) link

Here's a pretty aggro one from 1978 where everyone seems to be on speed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GcPPiF3l7I

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 April 2023 17:52 (one month ago) link

many great moments on those first two albums - too bad they're not appreciated as much as the later stuff

StanM, Monday, 24 April 2023 18:07 (one month ago) link

i fuckin loved and still love plays live

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Monday, 24 April 2023 19:15 (one month ago) link

it's fun enough to sorta see that facepaint from the cover in action

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Monday, 24 April 2023 19:34 (one month ago) link

And another new song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca-cyvU8P04

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 May 2023 16:40 (three weeks ago) link

this is good as hell

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Friday, 5 May 2023 17:00 (three weeks ago) link

fun fact: the saxophonist in the above 1978 video went on to be the super buffed saxophonist in Lost Boys

orifex, Friday, 5 May 2023 17:20 (three weeks ago) link

Not bad. It has a lot going on but the mix is uncluttered.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 May 2023 17:22 (three weeks ago) link

New tour is on!

SETLIST SPOILERS

SETLIST SPOILERS

SETLIST SPOILERS

SETLIST SPOILERS

SETLIST SPOILERS

May 18, Krakow

Washing of the Water (acoustic version)
Growing Up (acoustic version)
Panopticom
Four Kinds of Horses
i/o
Digging in the Dirt
Playing For Time (new version)
Olive Tree (world premiere)
Home (world premiere)
Sledgehammer

- intermission -

Darkness
Love Can Heal
Road to Joy (world premiere)
Don't Give Up
The Court
Red Rain
Unknown new song
What Lies Ahead
Big Time
Live and Let Live (world premiere)
Solsbury Hill

- Encore -

In Your Eyes

- Second encore -

Biko

john cooper mellencamp (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:47 (one week ago) link

Hmm. Any word on the staging?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:51 (one week ago) link

I am very disappointed he is not coming to Atlanta. A road trip may be in order.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:54 (one week ago) link

XP Pretty straightforward, it looks almost like a bandstand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9y2YIaTZSs

MaresNest, Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:57 (one week ago) link

Hmm. Maybe he needs to refill the coffers. In the past (esp. on the Us and Up tours) the staging was cool as shit, but probably pretty expensive. I heard the So:Redux tour was minimalist but still looked pretty cool. The tour with Sting was simple but effective. This looks fine.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 May 2023 23:14 (one week ago) link

That big circular thing above the stage reveals itself as some sort of screen, like Pink Floyd but no, he's not floating about in a tank of amniotic fluid or projected as a giant hologram, towering over the audience.

MaresNest, Thursday, 18 May 2023 23:20 (one week ago) link

Ten songs from i/o huh

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 May 2023 00:30 (one week ago) link

Hmm. Maybe he needs to refill the coffers

Ticket prices were especially high for MSG so I was expecting something elaborate to justify the cost.

birdistheword, Friday, 19 May 2023 01:03 (one week ago) link

I’d also red Lepage was involved again so I was expecting something Us level given the size of the arenas, but apparently he was just consulting, he didn’t do a big design. Screens and projections are fine but absolutely everyone does them now.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 20 May 2023 06:14 (one week ago) link


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