Talk Talk (RIP Mark Hollis)

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What do you fellas think? I'm referring particularly to those two fine crinkle-cut chips, "spirit of eden" and "laughing stock".

, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

just off out on the lash, but i think SOE is total CLASSIC - but didn't like LS as much - ideas taken further becoming less effective.

like how instruments fade in before their bit,the voice, the intimacy, i believe in you is one of my alltime faves - remember Mark Goodier's interview with Catherine Wheel when they want to listen to 'Desire' and i go out and buy 'black metallic' coz i thought 'what great taste'.

i love the early singles too

geordie racer, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Genius, full stop. More cohesively: I enjoy _Laughing Stock_ more than _Spirit_, partially because I encountered the former first and have a greater familiarity with it, but also because I find it a very warm album in its playing and construction, one could call it. *thinks* For whatever reason it and _Kid A_ now seem to me to have a certain resemblance, almost as if _Laughing Stock_ was the pre-tech-obsessed equivalent. Hm...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, no question. Particularly those last two albums. Soundscapes so detailed and luxurious (but still sparse) you can really get lost in that music. Come to think of it, Ned is definitely onto something with the comparison with Kid A, both treading the fine line between structure and texture and content. I remember Mouse On Mars stating in some interview that they hold Laughing Stock to be one of their biggest influences and I guess you can hear that at least up to (and especially on) their albums on Sonig, Instrumentals and Glam.

Janne Vanhanen, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Incidentally, Q magazine put "laughing stock" in the "like this? try these?" section of their review of the fairly delightful "amnesiac"

, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

myrrhperson@hotmail.com

Hey, if you hadn't made a faovrable comparison between them and fried potatoes, no need to ask what you thought, eh? ;)

Genius, full stop

Yeah, that sums it up nicely,

scott p., Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The Radiohead comparison is entirely fitting. I'd probably take it a couple steps further in saying that their careers have all but mirrored each other. (Mirror man? Hyuk hyuk.) Pablo Honey and The Bends being merely decent for their genre in the same manner as The Party's Over and It's My Life. Third album from each band stretched the boundaries by a somewhat-drastic degree, with the fourth and fifth taking things even further with the standard rock constructs being pushed more into the background. Both bands are thought of (at least in the US) as one-hit wonders. And then you have two lead singers with reputations as grumps...

So Talk Talk -- classic all the way. Laughing Stock is my personal favorite. Also love how other bands have picked up on them, from Bark Psychosis to some of Catherine Wheel's better moments. Ever hear the latter's "Thunderbird"? Completely lifts the drum pattern of "After the Flood," which means it's obviously one of the best things they've done. Then UNKLE sampled "New Grass" for the "Rabbit in the Headlights" single, which -- ta da -- brings us full circle due to Thom Yorke's vocal contribution to the same song.

Too bad Mark Hollis has decided to "retire". That solo record of his is brilliant.

Andy, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Is the "mark hollis" album much cop, babes?

, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

In all fairness, I'd say "the bends" is slightly nicer in its ...um, stuff than "ok computer" but baby, you gotta hear that "amnesiac". It is rather lurverly.

, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

DIdn't they have a song called life's what you Make it?

Mike Hanley, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Now that y'all bring up these comparisons and points, I'm glad to see I wasn't alone in thinking that connection existed! It just suddenly struck me as I was typing my original response -- probably helped that I listened to _Amnesiac_ last night (good album, but strange running order).

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

SPIRIT OF EDEN is untouchably great.

alex in nyc, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic of course. I don't see the Radiohead connection quite as strongly as others; perhaps if the connection is mediated through Bark Psychosis?

I think my favourite Talk Talk album is "Spirit of Eden". "Laughing Stock" has greater highs ("Taphead", "New Grass" etc.) but it takes a while to get going and doesn't flow quite as well. "Spirit of Eden" on the other hand is stunning from the get-go - the trilogy never ceases to amaze me, and by the time the choirs on "I Believe In You" come on I feel like I'm floating in a sea of morphine.

However I feel it's necessary to state that the album prior to those two, "The Colour of Spring", is definitely necessary if you like "Spirit of Eden" and "Laughing Stock". It's more pop-friendly and has a greater reliance on song structures, but the songs are mad fun and the ambition and attention to detail had already begun to manifest. Songs such as "April 5th" and "Chameleon Day" wouldn't be too out of place on "Spirit of Eden".

Tim, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the live version of "Life's What You Make It" cuz it's got big fuck-off guitars in it unlike their other pussy shit!

tarden, Saturday, 2 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"It's My Life" sounds great on my K-Tel Star Collection album.

Patrick, Saturday, 2 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

what little i heard sounded like corey hart singing over a bunch of noodling hippies. what's the deal?

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 2 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I really like the fuck-off guitars during the beginning of "Ascension Day." In fact, those fuck-off guitars are some of my favorite fuck- off guitars recorded. They're just as fuck-off as anything made by Steve Albini.

Anyone else notice the way Hollis references other songs? "Does Caroline Know" ("Caroline, No"), Laughing Stock and "The Daily Planet" (Love), "Inside Looking Out" and "It's My Life" (Animals), "Mirror Man" (Beefheart)... I know there are more.

Andy, Saturday, 2 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

what little i heard sounded like corey hart singing over a bunch of noodling hippies

That's why they're so great. The Colour of Spring is one of my favorite records.

Otis Wheeler, Sunday, 3 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic. I listened to Spirit of Eden on the way into work today, and it still sounds as great as it ever did. The Radiohead comparisons make sense in terms of career arc, but I don't hear it musically.

Tim, I'm rather curious about the connection you see between Bark Psychosis and Radiohead. I'm a big BP fan but I've never really sensed their influence in Radiohead's stuff.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

For me, the R/Head (Kid A and Amnesiac) connection in heard in the odd time sigs/skew-whiff rhythms which are found on Spirit of Eden and LS. The Elbow album also has echoes of Talk Talk - again the rhythms and also the organ on some trax.

Dr. C, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Richard - in the (admittedly more rudimentary) embracing of electronics, the feelings of paranoia, the tightly-structured non-structure as Jason Ankeny says in the AMG Review, the way that the songs seem to "say" something about the world without actually doing so, or at least doing so in such an abstract manner as to make little difference (Mark Hollis is much more on the social commentary tip, but the music doesn't *feel* like it). The instrumentalisation of dissonance in the service of order - compare say "National Anthem" to "Eyes And Smiles". Certainly I'd say all the similarities that Radiohead have to Talk Talk they also have to Bark Psychosis (who are clearly Talk Talk's more direct descendants), but with added similarities as well.

And, maybe just the fact that Bark Psychosis and Radiohead seem to still bear some allegiance to post-punk, which to my mind is totally non-existent in Talk Talk (in all three a matter of residual evidence of past incarnations).

Tim, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If you like Talk Talk, you all should check out O-rang--it's (I believe) a few of the guys from Talk Talk doing more instrumental/world/dubby/textural stuff. I only have one album, called Herd of Instinct, but it makes for an awesome listen. Weirdly enough, I got it from this teeny record store in Williamsburg that was trying to get rid of its promos--I saw that one, the name rang (no pun intended) a bell, and I yanked it. And I'm glad I did. Not too sure how readily available it is, though, but if you'd like a copy, I could burn it for you.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ditto on O-rang. Even through the murk of my badly recorded tape it's still a fine album. There were rumours that Graham Sutton from Bark Psychosis was going to be working with them on a new album but I've no idea what came of them.

Re. Radiohead and Bark Psychosis. Yes, they do have elements in common, the paranoia being the most obvious one, but they seem to have taken them in different directions. Late-period Radiohead is much more claustrophobic than Bark Psychosis; there's an feeling of the whole world weighing down on you, and the music tries to encompass that world. Whereas BP's stuff has much more light and space about it and seems to contain an acknowledgement that there is a world outside that isn't touched by the paranoia and that it is escapable to. Even after Kid A and Amnesiac, I can't imagine Radiohead putting out anything like Hex (the song) with it's huge wall of static that abruptly gives way to the gentlest shimmer.

I suppose that what I'm arguing is that they do share elements, but these are more likely to be derived from a common root rather than BP acting as a mediator from Talk Talk to Radiohead.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I exchanged some emails with Graham Sutton a few months ago. He said he's been sporadically working on a solo record (in name, not Boymerang). Lee Harris is drumming on it, apparently -- right fucking on. Seems like he's pulling a Scott Walker by taking his sweet old time.

The O.Rang guys made this weird dice game called Go-Rang. It came with all sorts of tiny gadgets and some rather detailed instructions in the form of a dinky scroll. If anyone should happen to have BP's "Clawhammer" flexi or the release that has "Reserve Shot Gunman," I'd be more than happy to part with my extra Go-Rang.

Andy, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Mark Hollis' singing 'the wealth of love' in "Wealth" is the zaniest sound ever emitted from human mouth.

Dave, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
if "laughing stock" has to be, it should be an instrumental album.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 7 June 2003 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link

"has to be" = "cannot not exist". (what i'm saying is that i don't like the vocals.)

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 7 June 2003 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link

you like the vocals on the other talk talk albums?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 7 June 2003 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

i think the only other talk talk i know is "its my life", which i don't think i've heard in years so i'm not sure. but the vocals aren't doing the same kind of work on "life" that they are on LS.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 7 June 2003 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

the new bark psychosis album is done. it just needs a method of reaching peoples' ears at the moment, and i don't think parlophone is the way it's gonna happen. this could turn out to be the best album of 2003 that has no record label ...

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Saturday, 7 June 2003 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

and i am pretty sure lee harris is drumming on it, as well as it featuring the old dude who played vibes on hex.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Saturday, 7 June 2003 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

mitch, you probably wouldn't like any of the other talk talk albums then, either. I think hollis' vocals work exceptionally well, their texture fits with the music harmonically, and he doesn't bleat all over the arrangements the way, say, david sylvian might if given the same songs (I like sylvian, but I'm just using him as a comparison).

I have not actually listened to orang, which practically is talk talk w/out vocals...has anyone else? how does it measure up?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 7 June 2003 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Short answer on Orang = fantastic, wonderful. Not really Talk Talk without vocals, but I think of it this way -- you compare Mark H.'s solo album vs. the Orang albums and it's pretty easy to see who brought what from Laughing Stock. It's not an exact split by any means, but there's a general formalism/expansive organic flow division.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 June 2003 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

the new bark psychosis album is done. it just needs a method of reaching peoples' ears at the moment, and i don't think parlophone is the way it's gonna happen. this could turn out to be the best album of 2003 that has no record label ...

and i am pretty sure lee harris is drumming on it, as well as it featuring the old dude who played vibes on hex.

How did you find out about this?

Evan (Evan), Sunday, 8 June 2003 04:40 (sixteen years ago) link

the new bark psychosis album is done. it just needs a method of reaching peoples' ears at the moment, and i don't think parlophone is the way it's gonna happen. this could turn out to be the best album of 2003 that has no record label ...

What kind of record deal are they looking for? (being serious here. feel free to email me)

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 8 June 2003 08:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't imagine that a hundred indie labels wouldn't be clamoring to put this out; rocketgirl I'm sure would, as would the music fellowship (yellow6's label), but I'm guessing that they're probably looking for someone who will give them some (well deserved) money.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Sunday, 8 June 2003 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Four finished-sounding songs have been on Soulseek for the past several months. Not a big break from the past -- similar drift to the tempos, big open spaces, whispered vox (male and female), etc. They're somewhere between the early singles and Hex in almost every aspect (including quality).

Andy K (Andy K), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link

This is manifestly a Good Thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

The 03.06.03 entry on this page goes into detail about each song. Admittedly the post was written rather hastily.

Andy K (Andy K), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Jon Attwood (Yellow6) is co-owner of MakeMineMusic, not The Music Fellowship. two fine labels; different continents.

just to tie things together (and keep this post OT), Sutton contributed ("guitar") to both O.rang albums. he also provided a great Boymerang 12" remix of "p53" on Echo(UK)/Hit it!(US). i don't believe this track was ever anthologized on CD. hmm. a disc compiling all the Boymerang remixes would be such a nice thing. though i've hunted and collected them devotedly.

new Bark Psychosis. oh, glory!

summerslastsound, Monday, 9 June 2003 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay, so about a year ago I heard "New Grass" on college radio & said "Oh boy this sounds like Sea & Cake, who is it?" and then when I found out I went to the hipster record store & listened to "Laughing Stock" but apart from that one song the album felt way way sparse and slow and uninteresting. So I didn't buy. Did I miss something?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 June 2003 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

no.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 9 June 2003 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

(note: i will listen to it a second time before my opinion turns to concrete, but for now i'm enjoying being crabby.)

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 9 June 2003 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Mitch don't make us get all dave matthews fan on your ass.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Monday, 9 June 2003 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

What kind of record deal are they looking for? (being serious here. feel free to email me)

the bark psychosis album may be released through the web!

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Monday, 9 June 2003 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

"(note: i will listen to it a second time before my opinion turns to concrete, but for now i'm enjoying being crabby.)"

Mitch you probably don't want to hear this but I reckon you should have started with Spirit of Eden instead - it's a more deliberately beautiful record so it makes it easier to get a handle of what Talk Talk are doing that is good.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 9 June 2003 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

JESUS, I enjoyed Spirit Of Eden more than I ever thought I would, but I'm SHOCKED there's so little discussion of Talk Talk by Talk Talk off of Talk Talk. That song is fucking genius.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 9 June 2003 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

It's EASILY the first song that comes to mind when I think of these guys. They're really mad in the video(s), and the drummer has a Mark Lindsay ponytail!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 9 June 2003 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Did I miss something?

Yes you did. This has nothing to do with the fact that I regard the Sea and Cake with at most a shrug, of course. *hides from Josh* (More seriously, Tim's advice to Mitch is sound, Jaymc -- and Anthony is right in that the early stuff is equally genius in a different world; heard "It's My Life" out at brunch yesterday and remembered again how great it is. However, there is no album actually called Talk Talk, that's a mistake from MST3K. ;-))

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Made a mix in tribute to Mark Hollis, whose music was hugely formative for me:

https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/folder-1.jpg?w=1024


Various - 'Elegy for Mark Hollis - A Life (1955-2019)'
1982-2000

01 [0:00:00] David Sylvian - "Brilliant Trees" ('Brilliant Trees' 1984)
02 [0:09:05] Rachel's - "Full On Night" ('Handrwiting' 1995)
03 [0:15:40] Neil Young - "Guitar Solo #4" ('Dead Man' 1996)
04 [0:19:45] The Durutti Columm - "Without Mercy (Stanzas IX-XII)" ('Without Mercy' 1984)
05 [0:26:45] The For Carnation - "Moonbeams" ('The For Carnation' 2000)
06 [0:36:05] Scott Walker - "Sleepwalkers Woman" ('Climate of Hunter' 1984)
07 [0:40:05] Robert Wyatt - "Maryan" ('Shleep' 1997)
08 [0:46:15] Paul Motian Trio - "India" ('It Should've Happened a Long Time Ago' 1985)
09 [0:53:35] Low - "Landlord" ('Songs For A Dead Pilot' 1997)
10 [1:00:15] The Comsat Angels - "Pictures" ('Fiction' 1982)
11 [1:04:40] Dif Juz - "Marooned" ('Extractions' 1985)
12 [1:08:35] Shelleyan Orphan - "Supernature on a Superhighway" ('Humroot' 1992)
13 [1:15:30] Danny Thompson - "Till Minne Av Jan" ('Whatever' 1987)
14 [1:20:15] Stina Nordenstam - "Dynamite" ('Dynamite' 1996)
15 [1:24:35] Haruomi Hosono - "Trembling #1" ('The Endless Talking' 1985)
16 [1:27:40] Dead Can Dance - "The Host of Seraphim" ('The Serpent's Egg' 1988)
17 [1:33:25] Yasuaki Shimizu - "Stir In This Way" ('Kakashi' 1982)
18 [1:35:35] Mick Karn - "Dreams of Reason" ('Dreams Of Reason Produce Monsters' 1986)
19 [1:39:15] Arthur Russell - "Not Checking Up" ('World of Echo' demo 1986)
20 [1:43:40] This Mortal Coil - "The Lacemaker" ('Blood' 1991)
21 [1:46:45] Peter Gabriel - "With This Love" ('Passion' 1989)
22 [1:50:05] The Blue Nile - "Regret" ('Tinseltown In the Rain' single 1984)
23 [1:53:30] Talk Talk - "It's Getting Late in the Evening" ('Life's What You Make It' single 1986)

[Total Time: 1:59:17]

Downloadable or streamable here: https://www.mixcloud.com/musicophilia/musicophilia-elegy-for-mark-hollis-a-life-1955-2019/

Soundslike, Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:38 (four months ago) link

Sorry, wrong link--that's just the stream. Download here: https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2019/03/27/elegy-for-mark-hollis/

Soundslike, Thursday, 28 March 2019 00:57 (four months ago) link

thanks, Soundslike, like the look of that very nuch.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 28 March 2019 02:13 (four months ago) link

and also very much.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 28 March 2019 02:14 (four months ago) link

Looks great, Soundlike, thanks!!

brimstead, Thursday, 28 March 2019 03:00 (four months ago) link

Great work Soundslike, thanks for sharing!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 28 March 2019 13:05 (four months ago) link

Remembered that Danny Thompson played bass on both Five Leaves Left and Spirit of Eden (among many others), maybe my favorite two albums ever.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 28 March 2019 13:14 (four months ago) link

Also Solid Air!

my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 28 March 2019 13:27 (four months ago) link

A Danny Thompson POX would be SKILLZ.

And this mix looks amazing, cheers.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Thursday, 28 March 2019 16:54 (four months ago) link

Danny Thompson played with David Sylvian and Shelleyan Orphan too, though possibly not on those tracks

kolarov spring (NickB), Thursday, 28 March 2019 17:06 (four months ago) link

think he's on Hounds Of Love somewhere too?

kolarov spring (NickB), Thursday, 28 March 2019 17:07 (four months ago) link

And Andrew Ridgeley’s ‘Son of Albert’.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 28 March 2019 17:20 (four months ago) link

haha, awesome!

kolarov spring (NickB), Thursday, 28 March 2019 17:32 (four months ago) link

Great mix, Soundslike - really enjoyed the Comsat Angels track in particular (I've never really listenend to them before).

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 28 March 2019 18:16 (four months ago) link

*listened

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 28 March 2019 18:17 (four months ago) link

This is a brilliant mix, Soundslike. Durutti into The For Carnation just damn near made me levitate.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Thursday, 28 March 2019 22:35 (four months ago) link

soundslike tha G.O.A.T.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 March 2019 13:01 (four months ago) link

Thank you all for listening! It was a tough mix to make, because I found myself still sort of shocked Mark Hollis was gone, even though he'd been "gone" for all intents and purposes as a listener for twenty years. But also because. . . really nothing does sound like Talk Talk and 'Mark Hollis,' even music I love dearly. TT and 'MH' will give five seconds to a moment of sublime beauty and arresting juxtaposition what other artists will try to explore across entire tracks or albums. No one else really seems to have the confidence and restraint to let things flourish and fade in that way.

Working on the 60s-70s tribute mix now, fingers crossed. . .

Soundslike, Saturday, 30 March 2019 10:52 (four months ago) link

And--Danny Thompson is definitely the secret hero of two generations' worth of a certain strand of music. You really could do an entire mix of just tracks he's played on for different artists--I've probably done several mixes which have five+ such tracks. Brilliant artist.

Soundslike, Saturday, 30 March 2019 10:54 (four months ago) link

inspired by this thread i was looking through danny thompson's credits on discogs and i really am surprised at how many records he's on that i love. i had no idea he was on s.e. rogie's "dead men don't smoke marijuana"!

(right now i'm listening to dick griffin's "homage to sun ra" - actually a rare error in discogs, this actually has danny ray thompson on it, the bassist is cecil mcbee. so i'm not at all disappointed!)

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 14:16 (four months ago) link

Someone ought to do a super long career spanning and candid interview with Danny Thompson ASAP, seriously. He turns 80 on Thursday!

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 30 March 2019 16:08 (four months ago) link

He's the best. I saw him do a really memorable duo show with (no relation) Richard Thompson.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 March 2019 16:22 (four months ago) link

fwiw he is on Colour of Spring as well, if no one mentioned.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 March 2019 16:24 (four months ago) link

Another great Danny record is Tim Buckley’s ‘Dream Letter Live In London’ set

kolarov spring (NickB), Saturday, 30 March 2019 17:07 (four months ago) link

yes! it's fantastic. any of those recordings from that european tour, there's some great live versions of "i don't need it to rain" with thompson killing it on bass

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 18:03 (four months ago) link

Where can I get that? On a boot?

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 30 March 2019 18:18 (four months ago) link

I imagine so. Don't think there are any other official releases from that tour

Duke, Saturday, 30 March 2019 18:49 (four months ago) link

actually according to discogs it's not thompson at all on the recording i'm thinking of but Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen, i guess thompson wasn't around for the whole tour

also apparently according to discogs, the guy who provided the label the tape deliberately degraded the sound quality since it wasn't meant for release, which i guess explains why it sounds like shit, would be nice if the un-degraded tape was to get released somewhere

sorry for the misdirect, for what it's worth pedersen rips it the fuck up on the bass, i should probably check out some more of his shit, he played bass on "my name is albert ayler", which i have heard, and dexter gordon's "one flight up", which i guess i'm listening to next!

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 20:52 (four months ago) link

Listened to Spirit of Eden last night as I was drifting off to sleep - it's such a great night time album, even with the intense dynamics of 'Desire' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:41 (four months ago) link

been listening to your mix this afternoon, soundslike. it really is fantastic.

it worked especially well against spring rain while i did quiet chores around the house. perfectly beautiful.

sknybrg, Saturday, 30 March 2019 23:19 (four months ago) link

He's the best. I saw him do a really memorable duo show with (no relation) Richard Thompson.

Honestly all these years I assumed they were brothers!

Sam Weller, Monday, 1 April 2019 08:23 (four months ago) link

Wot, like you and Paul?

lol, pssh.... nm.

Mark G, Monday, 1 April 2019 09:52 (four months ago) link

i liked your mix too, soundslike. i listened to it while repainting the appartment. the usual suspects on it plus some interesting, unknown music to me. the mix flows very nicely.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:56 (four months ago) link

I made a second mix in tribute to Mark Hollis, this time focusing on music from the very late 60s and the 1970s:

https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/musicophilia_00_various_-_remembrance_1969-1978_cover.jpg?w=1024


Various - 'Remembrance - A Life (1955-2019)'
1969-1978

Part I

01 [0:00:00] Alice Coltrane - "Hare Krishna" ('Universal Consciousness' 1971)
02 [0:03:00] Terry Callier - "Dancing Girl" ('What Color Is Love' 1972)
03 [0:12:00] Leonard Cohen - "Avalanche" ('Songs of Love and Hate' 1971)
04 [0:17:00] Miles Davis - "Sanctuary" ('Bitches Brew' 1970)
05 [0:27:50] Terry Reid - "Milestones" ('River' 1973)
06 [0:33:40] Scott Walker - "It's Raining Today" ('Scott 3' 1969)
07 [0:37:40] Nico - "You Forgot To Answer" ('The End...' 1974)
08 [0:42:35] Brother Ah - "The Sea" ('The Sea' 1978)
09 [0:48:20] Can - "Sing Swan Song" ('Ege Bamyasi' 1972)
10 [0:52:45] Van Morrison - "You Don't Pull No Punches..." ('Veedon Fleece' 1974)
11 [1:01:30] Tim Buckley - "Cafe" ('Blue Afternoon' 1969)

Part II

12 [1:06:55] Big Star - "Kanga Roo" ('Third' 1975)
13 [1:10:40] Pharoah Sanders - "Astral Travelling" ('Thembi' 1971)
14 [1:16:25] Richard & Linda Thompson - "The Great Valerio" ('I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight' 1974)
15 [1:21:50] Judee Sill - "The Donor" ('Heart Food' 1973)
16 [1:29:20] Brian Eno - "French Catalogues" ('Discreet Music' 1975)
17 [1:34:30] Abercrombie-Hammer-DeJohnette - "Timeless" ('Timeless' 1975)
18 [1:45:50] John Martyn - "Go Down Easy" ('Solid Air' 1973)
19 [1:49:20] Beverly Glenn-Copeland - "Ghost House" ('Beverly Glenn-Copeland' 1970)
20 [1:56:40] Simon Jeffes - "Chartered Flight" ('Music From the Penguin Cafe' 1976)
21 [2:03:15] Nick Drake - "Saturday Sun" ('Five Leaves Left' 1969)
22 [2:07:20] Paul Bley - "Closer" ('Open, To Love' 1973)

[Total Time: 2:13:00]

Please stream or download here: https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2019/04/02/remembrance-for-mark-hollis/

Soundslike, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 02:53 (four months ago) link

Another title connect -
Third World War - Ascension Day

Sunset Claus (Uncle Juice), Thursday, 4 April 2019 10:31 (four months ago) link

Listened to 'Mark Hollis' for the first time through since he passed, this evening. For me, probably the most singular record I know. I love what I included in the mixes and I feel like there's a common spirit. But man, truly nothing really sounds like this record, or really the last two Talk Talk records.

Soundslike, Friday, 5 April 2019 22:57 (four months ago) link

sprit of talk talk book getting a reprint. have pre-ordered. not missing it this time around godammit.

andrew m., Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:21 (four months ago) link

four months pass...

The reprint of the 'Spirit of Talk Talk' book arrived last week, and it's just lovely. I didn't own the original, so I can't compare, but I think the writers did a stand up job reissuing the book and incorporating the death of Mark Hollis in it. It's properly addressed (how could it not?) but in context of the 'story' and history of the band. It's a sterling book, visibly made with so much love.

Aside: for the recluse Hollis came to be it's funny to see there are SO MANY *official PR/Press photos* of the band and of Hollis. I tend to forget they were an 80s band proper, where releasing even "difficult albums" like their last two were accompanied with photo shoots to go with press releases. Endearing photos, it's great to see them all together here.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 22:02 (one week ago) link

I thought this might have raised an eyebrow, interesting line-up -

https://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/whats-on/132355-celebration-talk-talk-and-mark-hollis-2019

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:20 (one week ago) link

I saw that listed, but none of the musicians names rang a bell, so I assumed it was like those cheap Cleopatra covers CD's where there are just a bunch of no-names trying to capitalize on another bands legacy. So the participating musicians are from notable bands?

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:53 (one week ago) link

Well, it's weird, Simon Bremner was the original keyboard player and Martin Ditcham and Rupert Black were members of the touring band circa CoS iirc.

No idea about the rest of the names though, I don't recognise them.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 16:02 (one week ago) link

Most of them seem to have played with Talk Talk at some point, if only in the short-lived mid-80s live band. David Rhodes played with Peter Gabriel for ages too, the others I didn't recognise until I looked them up, mostly session dudes tbh. Maybe Johnny Turnbull's the 23 Skidoo guy?

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Oh Ogri (Matt #2), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 16:10 (one week ago) link

I think David Rhodes played on CoS, that's his guitar lick on Life's What You Make it iirc

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 16:51 (one week ago) link

i believe turnbull is the mulleted guitar player as seen in the montreux show

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:11 (one week ago) link

Isn't that the guitarist from the Blockheads?

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:16 (one week ago) link

http://youtu.be/NS5bxk89gQg?t=17

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:26 (one week ago) link

Same guy, right? That mullet is something else.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:37 (one week ago) link

Yeah same guy!

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:46 (one week ago) link

looks like curnow and black played synths on that tour too! i wasn't excited for this tribute before but i've watched montreux so many times that my mind pretty much considers them members of the band

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 19:58 (one week ago) link

I *finally* purchased Spirit of Talk Talk (shipping costs and all that) and must second how lovely it is. Amazingly put together.

Tokyo Ghetto Stüssy (King Boy Pato), Friday, 16 August 2019 11:52 (six days ago) link


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