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So yeah, as I'm about to go take a shower and put my work clothes for tomorrow in a bag and change into pajamas that I think will be the most modest to strip out of while in Tower Records in order to go on line in about an hour and a half to wait for $250 a pop Madonna tickets with my friend, I'm curious what everyone else thinks about concerts. What's the stupidest thing you did to get concert tickets? Do you even go to gigs? What's the point? Does buying $250 a pop concert tickets make me a yuppie?

Ally, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Personally, I wouldn't spend $250 to see Jesus Christ if he was playing at the Garden. But that's just me.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

$250 is pretty insane. A couple hours of Madonna vs. like 15 CDs? Sorry I'd rather spend the night raiding a record store. But reasonably priced shows are cool. I would highly recommend the upcoming Faint shows in NYC for the Manhattan folks. Smoke machines + fucked up lighting + retro new wavish synth pop = fun!

bnw, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Big NO on every level...NO to concerts, NO to Madonna, NO to paying $250 for things, NO to going to places that are full of lots of fuckin people, NO to the exciting night life of big cities, etc etc. "but that's just me" (as the man said) & i can't imagine i'm better off or happier than you for it, in fact i'm sure i'm much worse off & much unhappier...a great advertisement for my lifestyle & values, huh?

duane zarakov, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

$250, Ally, jeez. I thought $70 was steep for me to go see Depeche Mode later this year. Nothing I've ever gone to has challenged that amount (at least on a single-band level -- multi-day stuff like Terrastock, that's something else). No doubt Madonna's going to put some of that cash into the presentation -- one trusts -- but even so.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I hitchiked from edmonton to victoria to get to a Frank Black show. It was march, half of the trip was thru mountains I froze my pale white ass .

anthony, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Somehow, Anthony, that sounds like a Steven Wright joke.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I get to see Weezer on the 6th. So there.

JM, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Pff, I wouldn't pay $250 for Jesus Christ either. Madonna is wholly different.

I really don't think I'm going to go with those tickets though. But what the fuck, might as well, spent $400 this weekend to rent out a hotel room on a holiday weekend just so I have someplace to drink and smoke besides my house - how freakin' yuppie is that bitch?

Ally, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought I was the only one that measured all expenditure of money in how many CD's I *could* be buying.

Is it just the two of us?

Keiko, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

That's the entire basis for my poorly-thought-ought financial philosophy.

Josh, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

god. i spend 250 in about 3 months..and that might be cause i get free food, clothes, roof over head..but i wouldnt spend over 40$ for any band. ever. a friend saw U2 from the upper grandstand for 70$. i could see them better on my tv.

Kevin Enas, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It crosses my mind, that 'how many CDs' approach, but since prices can go all over the place... Heck, nearly half the CDs I got in a huge binge over the weekend were a buck each, maybe $2.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I usually measure most financial expenditures in terms of CDs - for instance, the new processor I have in my PC was 2 times as costly as the order I just placed with Insound. (New Ida = swooooon.) However, I usually weigh the cost of concerts against the cost of OTHER concerts. Comparison shopping @ its' best.

For instance, $250 could put me in the Middle East (Cambridge, MA) approximately 20 times. This INCLUDES the excessive service charges from Ticketmaster. (For instance, I paid $16.50 for a $10 ticket.) (The only reason I put up w/ those charges is that I have to drive 90 miles to get to Cambridge, and I want to make damn sure I don't get shut out of the show.)

So, for that $250, I'd get to see the Clientele & Dump, the Ex & Fat Day, Red Monkey, Retsin & K, Neil Hagerty, Calexico, the Dismemberment Plan, US Maple, the Locust & Arab-On-Radar, AND Bright Eyes w/ Simon Joyner. And I'd have enough money left over to pay for a couple tanks of gas, some grub, and a bottle or two of Cider Jack.

And, shit, Madonna doesn't even play an instrument!

Stupidest thing for a concert: take a bus into Cambridge for the very 1st time (circa 1997), go to a show, and wander the streets of Boston for 6 hours until the T opened up & I could take a bus home. The stupid part, though, was shopping for CDs after being up for 24+ hours. I ended up @ Tower Records. Paid $17 for a Nothing Painted Blue CD I could've bought for $5 less somewhere/anywhere else.

Also: if you're going to wander for 6+ hours, make sure your backpack isn't filled with a bunch of books. Unless you're a fan of lower back pain. In that case, I'd recommend War & Peace and Infinite Jest for the total traction workout.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I wish I liked concerts more.

Mike Hanley, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

On my more introverted weekends, I'll justify buying a CD based on not going out to a bar with friends where I'd surely have paid more than 15 bucks on drinks. Then of course, there's eating cereal for dinner as a way to "save" money for music. I am going to cry into my frosted flakes now.

bnw, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yesterday I went to see a band play in their living room. I just had to walk two streets to get to the (ahum) venue. It was worth it. ;-)
I used to travel to other countries to see a band play. Now it all depends on what's on the telly that night. Why stand in a club with 500 people when you could just as well be listening to the record at home?

Stevie Nixed, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah what she said. I rarely see anyone play out besides friends. I can't remember the last time I really saw a *spectacle* like what Ally's planning on. I am going to see Sade at Madison Square Garden in August and really - she will be trying with all her might to sound exactly like the CD so why? Becuz... one look from her eyes makes it all right. I am whipped, whipped.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot the sucategories:

Stupidest act committed to get tickets: spent hours creating fake tickets for an AC/DC show at Giants stadium and getting laughed at by the ticket takers.

Does buying a $250 ticket make you a yuppie? Yes. Go to the loading docks at Pier 17 to claim your khaki shorts and Ab-Roller.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this is a reflection of a sociological phenom': being on the internet statistically means that you're going to be richer and whiter than other people. In fact there're probably a lot of people paying $250 over the internet right now for Madonna tickets.

But Madonna is SO RICH ALREADY! I went to see 'Truth or Dare' at the movies and afterwards I had this really wierd feeling like, I just gave her $8.

Maryann, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't go to concerts, except as a thing to do with friends. Concerts are too much work. Much better for the well-produced preproduced instant gratification of a cd.

Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't like concerts. I like gigs.

OK, that may seem like a muso sort of thing to say (see "chops" on the image thread) but it's not just semantics.

I don't like large venues. The largest hall I will willingly go to is Brixton Accademy or Roseland Ballroom. The largest gig I've ever been to, excepting festivals, was Blur at Wembley Arena, and that scared me half to death. It was, however, free. ;-)

It's not indie snobbery, really, I swear to god, it's not. And it's not even about the idea of seeing "five ants on a stage" because often, with giant TVs and things, you see better at a stadium.

This is going to sound horribly pretentious, but in a smaller venue, the dynamic is about the relationship between you and the performer, or between you and the music. When an audience becomes too large, it becomes the dynamic of the relationship between you and The Crowd. And I intensely dislike large, uncontrollable, crowd situations.

About the money... whew. I don't know. I've spent far more money than that *travelling* to get to shows in other countries and the like, but then again, for me, travelling is kind of an end in and of itself, the gig being only the icing on the cake.

I can't think of a band I would spend $250 to see. Unless Spacemen3 came back from the grave, but it seems unlikely, so thankfully I'll never have to know. ;-)

masonic boom, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

im off to see a gig by early-Metallica and AC/DC tribute bands for a few quid - i love gigs - the more the better. stupidest thing i ever did to get tickets - form a band so we could support them.

geordie racer, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I just paid £50 for a ticket to Homelands, which lasted about 17 hours and I was there for about 11 of them. I wasn't going to spend much this month, either! the problem with gigs is that they are expensive, plus you have the cost of even just one drink which is always more than it should be, plus excessive handling fees. (is there anywhere you can actually buy a ticket at face value, even the venue? I've never found it...)


Bill, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

F! E! E! L! I-N-G! C! A! Double-L-E-D! L! O! V! E!

Yeah, there's still value in concerts. Whether there's $250 value in them is something you must decide for yourself. But if it makes a difference, _I_ think you're a yuppie.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

who wants to hang out at that Faint show?

larms, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm probably the cheapest person here by a country mile, so of course I'm not gonna pay $250 for Madonna. Still...surprisingly, I was quite tempted. I was never allowed to go to her concerts when I was younger, so I guess it's just the wish fufillment aspect of it. I don't really have an urgent need to see her now, I just would want to make up for not seeing her then.

I hardly ever go to concerts or gigs, mainly because I think I have burnt out from seeing so many in the past. And also because a lot of the good bands that happen to come to town play at a venue over an hour away with terrible acoustics. Not my idea of fun.

There are exceptions of course: I don't know if the Detroit Electronic Music Festival counts, because it wasn't a static experience of standing there watching acts, it was more about dancing, etc. There's also a local record shop that will put on concerts in the store of mainly new bands and experimental stuff, and that can be fun to do. But that's mainly it.

Nicole, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't pay $250 for a Jesus Christ/Madonna double bill (I wonder who would headline?), I still go to plenty of shows, but increasingly, it feels hollow and the standing is a bother and it's smoky and my back hurts and I find reasons to be disappointed. Recently, I accidentally paid $26 for Air tickets and I'm disappointed with spending that much. (roommate was going to the box office to avoid Ticketmaster charges, I gave him money for Air and Mogwai tickets and the Air show ended up being much more than I had expected.)

And I certainly do place the value of the tickets against the price of CD's and, a bad habit which is most likely an offshoot of fullprice/matinee/second-run approach to seeing films, I put the value of the show against the price I paid to get in as well. So Air may have to invite the Nuge to ride out Whiplash-Bash style on a buffalo and duet on "Drift Away" or something for me to feel I got my money's worth.

scott p., Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Paying 250$ for concert tickets makes you a yuppie only if you previously never exhibited much interest in the performer, and are going just because you can afford it and it's THE thing to do. If you do love the artist, then it only means you're rich, or fanatical, or very careless ;).

Patrick, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The problem with comparing concerts either to buying CDs, or to seeing a movie at a cheapie cinema rather than first run is quite obvious- a CD will be the same every time you play it. (OK, you may have different emotional responses to it, but it's still the same digitally encoded notes) A movie will have the same plot whether you see it on the big screen or your video.

But the subtle nuances of the live performance, the audience interaction, the performer's energry level/amount of "being into it" can change so dramatically so much from night to night, from tour to tour. I don't care what anyone says- a tour is never the same night after night, even if it is the same set repeated. And if it *is* exactly the same night after night (ie lip-synched and choreographed) then you're not getting your moneys worth.

Those are the few reasons left that will still keep me going to gigs, even when my back hurts and it's smokey and the audience is filled with drunken arses who keep jumping up and down on my shoes.

masonic boom, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Paying 250$ for concert tickets makes you a yuppie only if you previously never exhibited much interest in the performer, and are going just because you can afford it and it's THE thing to do.

Exactly. The kind of yuppie chuckleheads who will bring a cell phone to said concert and hold it up in the air for their friends to hear.

These are the people for whom the death penalty should have been created.

Nicole, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey! My mate, Charlie has a rather charming habit of doing that... I've stood next to him at the aforementioned Blur show while he played Parklife down someone's ansaphone. Sometimes it's amusing when you're on the receiving end. Another friend and I were home being miserable that we hadn't gone to some festival, then suddenly the phone rang, there was a few seconds of crowd noise, then the entirety of "Race For The Prize" by the Flaming Lips followed, broadcast live from a field somewhere.

But on the whole, I agree with the dedication vs. yuppiedom thing.

masonic boom, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Uh, yeah, can we can it with the "richer, whiter" comments? I'm hispanic, 21, and can barely pay my rent these days. I just like wasting money like it's going out of style, cos really it is - when I die, I want to leave my family in debt, not give them crap. Jesus. I mean, this weekend I spent $400 to stay in a hotel room that was a block from my house, just so that we'd have someplace new to smoke cigarettes and drink, and one of the nights I didn't even STAY there cos I was so pissed off at someone.

Anyhow, shortly after I wrote that question, it was revealed that Madonna, the bitch that she is, was going to do a lottery so I actually didn't go over there til like 5:30 and I only went that early because my friend kept calling me asking me to come keep him company, the crackhead (hello, you didn't have to still be in line). We got $50 tickets, which were actually amazingly good considering the "TOP" tickets were $250!!! The shows are all sold out now.

I justified the possibility of spending $250 in my mind as such: I've never seen Madonna, despite being her biggest fan for like 20 years now (like, nearly literally). I don't go to concerts that often and I haven't bought a CD in at least like three weeks, so my music expenditure is low. I really don't care much about money anymore anyhow. I like telling people I spent $250 on concert tix, because it raises eyebrows. So with all that in mind I was pretty ready for it but then we were like, floor seats, pff, fucking floor seats. Those are the worst unless you're in the first couple rows.

Ally, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think paying $250 for a set of concert tickets makes someone a yuppie, but I do think it makes them a sucker. For $250 you should at least get a personal limousine ride to the show, a personal meeting with the performer and a shout-out from the stage...maybe you could even come out and take a bow or something.

The most I've ever spent on concert tickets was for Tom Waits, and that was about $40 Canadian (more like $30 US I guess), and this is from a man who hasn't toured in YEARS. Some of the artists I've seen tickets for lately have been charging insane amounts (though not as insane as Madonna), and they tour regularly. I'm trying to remember when tickets started costing this much, and I have a feeling it traces back to the Eagles reunion shows, when promoters realized they could actually get away with ticket prices that were that ridiculous. Of course, I like to blame Don Henley for a lot of what's wrong with music these days.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

err, madonna's crap. i have a fit when bands charge more than 10 dollars for shows. i think if i paid 250 dollars i wouldn't enjoy the show, i'd try to convince myself i had because i had spent so much money but in the back of my mind i know i would be thinking 'i spent 250 dollars for this?'. i imagine seeing madonna will be like seeing some band with a wanky guitar player, but instead of guitar heroics it will be cheesy dance numbers as filler.

keith, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's one positive thing about indie, I guess. $15 is tops for a show for me, and they're usually not worth it at that price. The idea of those Madonna tickets is impossible for me to understand. I don't get it on any level, sorry.

Mark, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess I just don't comprehend it anymore. To me, it's just not a lot of money. I'm not wealthy or even particularly well off. It's just that I know I have another paycheck coming and I cancelled my vacation this year and quite frankly what else is money for but to spend it? $50 seems more than reasonable for the seats we got, and I only very briefly seriously considered the $250, because my friends wanted it and I could justify in my mind spending the cash and sitting with them. Hording money is a dud. Charging that much for a ticket is also a dud, but as a former Ticketmaster venue employee, it's not even close to the most expensive I've ever seen (that honor goes to Andrea Bocelli at $1000).

What annoys me most about this thread is that instead of focusing on what I actually asked, ie what do you think about live performances and if you enjoy them what is the weirdest thing/most you've done to see one, and instead use it as an excuse to rage against concert ticket prices.

Now, in real life, the people who've been most offended by the $250 price have been people I know are heavily into CD burning. Can anyone say cheap ass muthafuckas? Not that I'm implying this about the people in this thread, mind you, because I have no clue about any of your habits. But I have found this to be a curious phenomenon in real life - the most vehement ones, ie the ones who thought the $50 was unreasonable, were two people who I know no longer purchase CDs at all in favor of burning. I just found this curious, what do you lot make of it?

Ally, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

To be fair Ally you did actually ask "Does buying $250 a pop concert tickets make me a yuppie?" which is a more fruitful qn than "Do you even go to gigs?" (which we've had a thread on anyway).

Buying $250-a-pop concert tickets is the kind of thing yuppies legendarily do but I don't know any yuppies so I don't know if that's true or not.

I've never done anything stupid to get concert tickets cause my reaction to the news "[artist] is touring" is generally "Oh thats nice" rather than "I MUST HAVE TICKETS".

Tom, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If you have no savings, then you're going to be in deep trouble at some point in your life. You probably don't need me to tell you this. But if you've been putting X dollars away every paycheck and you still have $250 left over for concert tickets, fuck it. It's better than buying Faberge eggs.

I've paid some outrageous prices for tickets (although nothing above $100) because live shows can be great, especially Big Outdoor Rock Festivals on nice hot summer days. I think you have to weigh the value, though. I'll pay $60 to see Ornette Coleman because with him, the show is going to be an experience I'd not be able to have at home with the record. I would never pay big bucks to see Dr. Dre, though, because I know he's just going to rap over a backing DAT with three other guys and make dumb postures at the crowd, and say "Oklahoma WHAT!!" with a big spliff on the digital display behind him.

Dave M., Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think with someone like Ornette, there's probably also the issue that he could certainly use the money more than Madonna does, so I'd be more willing to shell out more. How much of that $250 would Madonna actually see, do you think?

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Do people really think that way when buying tickets or cds? The question of "deserving it" doesn't really enter my mind when buying tickets or cds -- I either want the music badly enough to pay or I don't.

Nicole, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't understand the whole concept behind "deserving it" - I mean, if we want to take it further, think of all the people involved in the Madonna gig, from the multitudes of dancers (many of which are with her on EVERY tour), the session musicians, etc etc etc, do they deserve it? Sure their cut isn't large but....

See, I don't care about such things. I am down with the theory that the amount of money you pay for a concert should be in proportion to the amount of spectacle/"experience" you get. I have no problem paying $50 to see Madonna, whose shows are legendary for being complete circuses and hugely entertaining. I balked at the idea of paying $50 to see D'Angelo, who basically stands on stage with musicians and sings. I'd pay $50 to see Spiritualized, who have light shows and fantastic arrangements. I'd not pay $50 to see the Manics, who are my favorite band, because they do the Oasis thing these days of standing and staring straight ahead.

To me, it's in the extras, not just in how much I like the music, because quite frankly I generally think the live versions of songs I like are much worse than the album versions. I like the whole shebang, so to speak, and if I think I am going to get it, I'll pay for it.

Ally, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

> Buying $250-a-pop concert tickets is the kind of thing yuppies legendarily do but I don't know any yuppies so I don't know if that's true or not.

They do. And basketball tickets (for the "privilege" of sitting within eyeshot of Spike Lee at a Knicks game or Jack Nicholson at a Lakers game).

Come to think of it, I think I'd rather spend $250 to see a basketball game than a concert. Not that I would willingly do either, but if I had to choose ...

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry 'bout that folks ...

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

So, hang on - if you pay a lot of money for sporting event tickets now, you're doing it to sit in the posh area and not to, you know, actually see the game, which you can barely do if you sit in the upper eschelons? I spent $150 (approx, possibly more) a pop for tickets to a Bills - Jets game for me and Fred once. We had the most fantastic seats, and I paid that much because A) we'd have fantastic seats B) we don't do it often as in at all C) the Bills are my team D) WE'D HAVE FANTASTIC SEATS. It's far stupider to pay $20 but sit in the nosebleeds than it is to pay a lot but sit where you can see the action up close. My company has tons of floor seats for Knicks games, but it's because they see no point in going if you're going to sit far - the whole point of going in person is to experience, not just watch. Half of these guys couldn't even recognize Spike Lee on the streets, much less anyone else who shows at the game, unless like say Derek Jeter showed up.

So here's a question that's been forming in my head: what's the difference between paying $100+ for one single concert/sporting event that you really, really, really want to see every few months or once a year, and paying $100+ to see many concerts/sporting events but sit in crap seats or they're stuff you don't really badly want to see? It's the same amount of money in the end, correct? If you believe that by buying $250 tickets to the Madonna show will make you happy, and you skip the Air, Cinerama, Dandy Warhols, Outkast and D'Angelo shows to see it (which actually comes out to more money than Madonna) because you're not raging to see those 5 bands, why is that a bad thing?

Ally, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I find concerts depressing. The musicians are almost certainly sick of their material and their fans by the time they get to where I can see them. I also hate smoke more than I love music. And: I think concerts are used by most concert-goers as a fashion accessory. Nevertheless, in my follish youth (between 90-94 or so) I wasted time and money at concerts by: Dinosaur Jr., My Bloody Velentine, Lush, Ride, Weezer, Sonic Youth, Pixies, Velocity Girl, Luna, Sundays, Swervedriver, TMB Giants. I'm PROUD that I saw those people in concert. I ENVY that my friend got to see the Pogues. Isn't that silly?

Blake Newton, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd hate concerts too if I went to those concerts.

Ally, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ally: I humbly apologize for answering your question honestly. that always gets me in trouble. like the time my 2nd grade teacher Ms. Hamptom asked me what I thought about her new hair cut I said I thought it was weird and she hit me with a ruler. New answer = I like concerts, especialy ones involving Madonna.

Blake, Sunday, 3 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The Bills? hmphthppt.

Mike Hanley, Sunday, 3 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

That's a good start, Blake. Now tell her you'd spend $250 on the seats, too.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"Cockfarmers" is really too cool a word to describe this message board, I fear.

Forgive me, Blake dearest, for agreeing with you.

Ally, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, Ally = correct. Those concerts did suck for the most part. I think the bands were all upset for having to play in Ohio. They didn't want to be there. I mean, these guys were saying things like "Are you ready to rock?" instead of "Are you ready to rock!!!" My fault for living in perennial middle-of-the-tour zone, not to mention middle-of-hickland zone (My apologies to fellow Kentuckianaohians living in the tri-state ohio valley south-central westeastern region).

Blake, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Ally - how was it??

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 29 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

ALLLLLLYYYYY should I get HBO just to see this bitch????

Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Alright, I've asked my friend Matt - who's not nearly as good a writer as Miss Kearney here - to describe it for me. The 2 things I came away with were that 1) the show restored his faith in all things Madonna and 2) the mechanical bull didn't buck, it just kind of went round and round, and she got mad at it.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

GOD!! Your pal must be a bad writer.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yo, TH, I don't read this crappy ass message board barely ever anymore, it's weak as fuck. If you want an immediate answer about the concert, you gotta pick up the phone and call me, cos I ain't seein' this until well after you asked.

Which is alright because the concert was last night anyhow, so I couldn't have answered when you asked ;)

The concert was utterly fantastic, an hour and a half of nonstop pure power and excitement. It was easily the best show I've ever seen, and by show I don't just mean concert, I mean theatre events too. The setting and choreography was excellent, and Madonna sounded better than ever. The mark of a good live show is that you can even hear songs you dislike on album and they suddenly become songs you like - and that was what was occuring at this gig. I suddenly find myself interested in "Nobody's Perfect" (which was really dramatic and wonderful in concert, a skit really) and "Don't Tell Me" and even "Mer Girl".

I really actually think it would've been worth the $250 to get better tickets. Our seats were excellent nonetheless, if a bit high. We had plenty of room to sing and dance and that's what's important.

Ally, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

She needs planety of room with that fat ass of hers

Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think you're the one jealous of someone else's glamour, cowboy.

Ally, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

At least there isnt a gap in my teeth the size of France.

Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Yesterday - The Raveonettes
Today - Pavement/Phoenix feat Daft Punk/Hot Chip...
Tomorrow - Lou Reed
Monday - Paul McCartney
Tuesday - Michael Rohter and Steve Shelley playing Neu!
Sunday - Ornette Coleman

Best 10 days of concerts ever in my city

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 20 November 2010 18:10 (nine years ago) link

Funny to see people talking about "yuppies" in 2001. Glad that (almost) disappeared with the 90s...

paulhw, Sunday, 21 November 2010 01:24 (nine years ago) link

Jesus, that is an awesome run of shows!

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 21 November 2010 04:11 (nine years ago) link

There's exactly one person on that list I'd like to see (and I've seen him three times already).

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 21 November 2010 04:18 (nine years ago) link

yuppies killed my family

buzza, Sunday, 21 November 2010 04:24 (nine years ago) link

Ornette 3 times Unperson?

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 November 2010 06:26 (nine years ago) link

Yep, twice as a headliner and once as a special guest at Sonny Rollins' 80th birthday show.

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 21 November 2010 13:33 (nine years ago) link

What a weird thread.


Jesus. I mean, this weekend I spent $400 to stay in a hotel room that was a block from my house, just so that we'd have someplace new to smoke cigarettes and drink, and one of the nights I didn't even STAY there cos I was so pissed off at someone.

Way weirder than spending $250 to see Madonna, more should have been made of this.


It's far stupider to pay $20 but sit in the nosebleeds than it is to pay a lot but sit where you can see the action up close. My company has tons of floor seats for Knicks games, but it's because they see no point in going if you're going to sit far - the whole point of going in person is to experience, not just watch.

feel like Ally misses the point of live sports here, which is to be surrounded by thousands of people cheering for your team. If you want to see the action really well, you're never gonna beat the TV broadcast.


Funny to see people talking about "yuppies" in 2001. Glad that (almost) disappeared with the 90s...

Maybe people don't fret as intensely about whether they are or aren't yuppies, but the word is hardly gone, I think it's established itself firmly as a social category and I heard people described as such constantly.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 21 November 2010 13:42 (nine years ago) link

"and change into pajamas that I think will be the most modest to strip out of while in Tower Records"

i'm still trying to figure out why ally waa stripping in tower records. maybe that's a requirement when you buy madonna tickets?

scott seward, Sunday, 21 November 2010 14:18 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah, I remember this concert and her stans were whining on the news about how the concert was sold out and how expensive it was.
This was around the time I stopped caring about Madonna. I listened to the Music album years later and there's absolutely nothing to rave about except maybe 'Don't Tell Me'. Most of her 00s albums were all rehashes of Ray of Light. Well, not Hard Candy, that was more like Bedtime Stories Redux.

That's not a "laugh track", it's an audience and you're in it. (MintIce), Sunday, 21 November 2010 14:39 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

Attended my 50th show this year last night. Insane year.

1349 w/ Origin and Abysmal Dawn -Orpheum, Tampa: Caught Steve Asheim smoking weed, he freaked out thinking I was a narc

YOB w/ Witch Mountain - Big Earl, Atlanta GA: had a fiasco getting up there, one of the best shows I saw this year.

Master - Orpheum, Tampa: barely remember anything about it. not cos I was drunk (I wasn't), but wasn't a great show

Contortionist w/ Fallujah and Revocation (2x)- Orpheum, Tampa, and Back Booth, Orlando: Skipped Contortionist both times.

Cannibal Corpse w/ Behemoth and Tribulation - Jannus Live, St Pete: Missed Tribulation due to work and the traffic jam of a century.

Anvil w/Lord Dying (2x)- West End Trading Company, Sanford, and State Theatre, St Pete: saw the second one in the same night as the Contortionist show in Orpheum...left one, went to the other

Cryptopsy - West End Trading, Sanford: sick show, first time seeing them since 2001

Deicide - West End Trading, Sanford: Went to this show after performing in a breast cancer benefit. Kind of an odd doubleheader.

Rush (2x) - Lakewood Ampitheatre, Atlanta GA, and Nationwide Arena, Columbus OH - what else can be said...Rush, yo. Rush!

Obituary (2x) - West End Trading, Sanford and Brass Mug, Tampa - Growing tired of seeing them live now.

Slayer at Welcome to Rockville, Jacksonville - had a blast of a time in rainy weather, even if the setlist was predictable.

Torche at Back Booth, Orlando - fun but wish I'd known more of their music going in

Vital Remains (2x) at The Haven, Winter Park, and Orpheum, Tampa - the infamous "cross" incident at the Haven happened on night #1

1349 w/ Vattnet Viskar at The Haven, Winter Park - Vattnet were the better band

Napalm Death w/ Ringworm, Voivod, Iron Reagan, and Exhumed - STate Theater, St Pete - Great lineup, crazy night, got very drunk, and a
friend got in a fight

Ringworm - Jacksonville - The show that made me a fan of theirs

Primitive Man and Celeste - Tampa, FL: did not enjoy this show. the venue was too primitive even for me, and I don't get the love for PM at all.

Goatwhore w/ Ringworm and Black Breath - The Earl, Atlanta GA: Loved Black Breath and Ringworm. realizing Goatwhore are boring live.

Black Tusk - Will's Pub, Orlando: Not a great band, third-tier at best, but an entertaining show with a great crowd

Maruta - Will's Pub, Orlando: Met a new friend at this show, Maruta was good but I was exhausted by the time I came on

Ginko Balboa (4x) - Various venues: Check my friends out - they're a solid act who have just been getting sharper over time

Slayer w/ King Diamond at Rockstar Mayhem, Aaron's Ampitheater, Atl GA - Probably the show of the year for me. The KING!

Faith No More w/ Refused at Masquerade, Atlanta GA: So glad I finally got to see FNM.

Terrorizer at West End Trading, Sanford: Caught Pete's drumstick

Fear Factory at Venue 578, Orlando: First time I've enjoyed them live. it just worked!

BTBAM at Venue 578, Orlando: Aggravating night at the venue, but BTBAM destroyed it

Gruesome at The Haven, Winter park: One of my fav retro bands of the year

Toxic Holocaust, The Haven, Winter Park: One of my fav shows of the year. pulled a great time out of me on a night when I didn't have much in the tank.

Nocturnus AD (2x) - Brass Mug, Tampa, Hourglass Brewing, Longwood: First show was my 2nd favorite show of the year. Got a little tipsy, hugged a metalhead in the mosh pit. Love these guys.

Motorhead w/ Anthrax - House of Blues, Orlando: Loud as hell. Way too crowded. Anthrax was ruined by the asshole people pushing by me every 2 seconds. Motorhead played a short set but it was loud and raucous.

Monstrosity - West End, Sanford: Last minute decision to go, and I'm glad I did. Realizing now I really like their classic 90s stuff, and they were taut as hell live. Wonder if this means Terrorizer is done, as Sam and Lee are both back in the reformed Monstrosity.

Cannibal Corpse w/ Cattle Decapitation - Crazy Horse, Jacksonville: I am sporting a knee injury and a hangover but I regret nothing. so much fun.

Ghost - Beacham, Orlando: Fantastic setlist, cracking loud guitars, great stage show.

Danzig w/ Witch Mountain, Hard Rock Live - Orlando: was feeling low and moody due to stress and this show cured it. Witch Mountain and Danzig had fantastic sets.

Overkill w/ Symphony X, Orpheum, Tampa: Thanks to getting out of work late, I missed 90% of Symphony X's set. Overkill were fantastic live, but this was my 4th show in 6 days and I was too gassed to really let loose.

Nocturnus AD, Brass Mug, Tampa: Finally getting tired of seeing them live, lol

Deicide, West End, Sanford: Bruises still haven't healed yet.

Cannibal Corpse w/ Cattle Decapitation (again) - Venue 578, Orlando: This was loud and sick as fuck. I was sore and hungover the next day.

Suffocation, West End, Sanford: Wasn't about to let a nasty eye infection stop me. Band sounded amazing and ran through a shitload of classics - much better time at this show than I had the previous one

Macabre, Brass Mug, Tampa: I can make the "I was too drunk" excuse, but I'm gonna come out and say I am more of a fan of Gloom-era Macabre and not as much the stuff Dahmer and ongoing. Not that it's bad, but it's not interesting live.

King Diamond - Masquerade, ATL: This was well worth the miles traveled. Got very drunk but he was in prime shape. went nuts during the opening two songs from Abigail.

Hate Eternal, West End Trading Company, Sanford FL: Not a huge fan of theirs, but I like them and they sounded really good!


Mayhem w/ Watain, Venue 578 Orlando - Peeked at the setlist and HOLY FUCK is this gonna rule. (11/27/2015)
Blind Guardian, The Plaza, Orlando: Weird thing is how early these went on sale - I bought the tix like 4 months ago. (11/28/2015)
Deicide, Jacksonville FL: Will make three times this year (12/2/2015)
High on Fire w/ Crowbar: holy hell (12/7/2015)

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 26 November 2015 15:53 (four years ago) link

Love the 2001 threads. They're so weird.

2015 shows that I can remember:
A Great Night in Harlem (Alex Blake, Antoine Roney, Benny Golson, Billy Harper, Buster Williams, Davell Crawfod Gospel Choir, Donald Fagen, George Cables, Jack deJohnette, James Carter, Jimmy Heath, Keb Mo, Keith Richards and His X-Pensive Winos featuring Lisa Fischer and Bernard Fowler, Melissa Aldana, Randy Brecker, Randy Weston, Ravi Coltrane, Ray Parker Jr, Renee Fleming, remarks by Sonny Rollins and Danny Glover, Valerie Simpson, more)
Alison Brown, Sierra Hull, et al Johnny Cash tribute
Alvin Youngblood Hart
Arturo O'Farrill and his Afro-Latin Jazz Orchestra
Asleep at the Wheel
Belle and Sebastian, Real Estate
Berliner Philharmoniker
Bobby Rush
Brain Cloud (upcoming)
Chop and Quench, Underground System
Chris Potter Underground Orchestra
Courtney Barnett
Daniel Romano
Dave and Phil Alvin
Dead & Company x2
Dr. John
Don Byron Quartet (I think)
Dumpstaphunk, Spin Doctors
eighth blackbird with Will Oldham, Sam Amidon
Eleanor Friedberger
Ensemble Signal
Esperanza Spalding
Evgeny Kissin
Fare Thee Well x2
George Clinton and Parliament-Funkadelic
Global Citizen Festival (Pearl Jam, Beyonce)
Greensky Bluegrass
Groove Collective
Hal Ketchum
Henry Butler
Jessie's Girl
John Prine
Kacey Musgraves
Kasey Chambers
Kiran Ahluwahlia
Lucinda Williams
Lyle Lovett and His Large Band
Maria Schneider Orchestra
Metropolitan Opera Summer Recital?
The MET Orchestra
Miranda Lambert, Ashley Monroe
Myra Melford
NEA Jazz Masters Awards (Carla Bley, Cecile McLorin Salvant, Charles Lloyd, George Coleman, Ira Sullivan, Jimmy Cobb, Jimmy Heath, Lou Donaldson, Ray Drummond, Rudresh Mahanthappa, Stu Katz, more)
Nellie McKay (upcoming)
New York Philharmonic x3+
New York String Orchestra (upcoming)
Nigunim Trio (Frank London, Uri Caine, Lorin Sklamberg) (upcoming)
On the Town on Broadway (excerpts)
Orpheus Chamber Orchestra
Phil Lesh & Friends
Phish (upcoming)
Ralph Stanley and His Clinch Mountain Boys
Randy Newman
Reverend Horton Heat with Robert Gordon
Rosie Flores
San Francisco Symphony, Nina Stemme
Sierra Leone Refugee All-Stars, Jeffrey Broussard and his Creole Cowboys
Soulive w/ Aaron Neville (and I think some other Krasno thing)
Soul Rebels Brass Band, Lettuce
Stevie Wonder
Sun Ra Arkestra
Tedeschi Trucks Band with Sharon Jones
Terrance Simien & the Zydeco Experience
Terry Waldo
Vieux Farka Toure, Tamikrest
The Who
Willie Nelson
The Word (and Luther Dickinson solo)
Yefim Bronfman
Yo La Tengo

About 75 so far, will probably get to or over 80 for the year.

Comprehensive Nuclear Suggest-Ban Theory (benbbag), Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:14 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

hit 53 last year....this year I'm already at

Defeated Sanity (This sucked)
1349 (also sucked)
Black Sabbath (godhead)
Florida Metal Fest (including Obituary, Deicide, CoC, and Trouble) - amazing
Cradle of Filth (heh)
At the Gates (twice)
Cannibal Corpse/Obituary/Cryptopsy (got too drunk and can't remember shit - still pissed but going again on 3/19)
Enforcer/Exmortus/Warbringer (fun!)
Voivod (hell yes)
Iron Maiden (omg)


Slayer, Testament, and Carcass - Fillmore, Charlotte NC (Are you kidding me? I don’t care how far away it is)
Maryland Death Fest - Sorry Fringe, Maryland gets me second weekend.

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 February 2016 23:10 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

I think I'm growing sick of them atm to where I need a break for a while.

sometimes it's just more fun to pop on my headphones.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 21:00 (three years ago) link

Been to a few good ones lately. Local bands carrying the flame of garagey guitar rock - TV Ugly, Swim Team, TV Ugly and others I forget. I'm going to see Wreckless Eric tomorrow.

everything, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 23:07 (three years ago) link

I never go to concerts-if I go out, my evenings are spent seeing repertory film screenings (celluloid ONLY)

beamish13, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 07:35 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

topped out at 55 this year. Meshuggah's was the best, followed by Iron Maiden and then proooooobably Slayer/Death Angel/Anthrax

Neanderthal, Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:39 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

Does anyone know of a website covering at least Europe where I can enter artists & cities and as a result I get a list of all of the corresponding concerts in the next couple of months?

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:43 (five months ago) link

Sadly, not so much anymore now that c*nts can't generally seem to stfu or leave their fucking smartphones be.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:08 (five months ago) link

corrs unplugged, Friday, 13 September 2019 06:56 (five months ago) link

thanks, that is not really what i look for. firstly there are only a couple of cities. secondly i have to search for each band and location separately. if i have a hundred bands and five cities that would make 500 searches. which i then would have to consolidate somehow. i would just like to input the bands, the cities and maybe the period and then get the results.

i think at eventim i could subscribe to bands and they would then send me new concerts by e-mail. that is the closest to what i am looking for that i have found yet. but i do not want to give them my e-mail...

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 13 September 2019 10:03 (five months ago) link

There is also Songkick but I don't think that really fits your (rather strict) criteria either.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Friday, 13 September 2019 11:09 (five months ago) link

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