Oasis soon to be illegal in Australia?

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this story is charming, especially the line where the lady wants the sale of all objectionable cds banned for sale to australians of all ages.

why should films be rated and not music cds? just wondering about the difference between the two mediums, is film more impactful because our culture is visually obsessed?

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 13 December 2002 02:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

big loss.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 December 2002 02:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is there any chance at all of making this rule worldwide?

, Friday, 13 December 2002 02:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

I propose a simple two-tier ratings system for CDs:

'Classic' or 'Dud'.

gazuga (gazuga), Friday, 13 December 2002 02:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Or maybe Classic, dud and Oasis.

, Friday, 13 December 2002 02:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think it's a good idea because teenagers love being naughty and so will get an extra thrill out of listening to music that's "against the law" for them.

toraneko (toraneko), Friday, 13 December 2002 02:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can picture Australian teens hanging out in front of record stores, asking adults if they'll buy them the "banned" CDs. Or they'll just download 'em from that Internet web thing.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Friday, 13 December 2002 02:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fatuous nonsense, this - won't make the blindest bit of difference to what people listen to. Queenslanders eh? Tcha.

Charlie (Charlie), Friday, 13 December 2002 03:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

maybe I should have started another subject but why should films be rated and not music? Is it wrong that kids can't see 'eyes wide shut'? is it wrong that kids can hear lil'kim? i think some chains here in the US will already ask for id for cds with the parental advisory sticker on them so australia is actually lagging a bit.

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 13 December 2002 03:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Queenslanders eh?

Yup, we're conservative, stupid and backward-looking. One expects such restrictions would have about the same effect as laws preventing the sales of alcohol and tobacco to minors. Nobody will be really disadvantaged, and the fundis will shut up. Everybody wins.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 13 December 2002 03:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oasis=O-level onomatopoeia

t\'\'t (t''t), Friday, 13 December 2002 06:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

i never thought about it much before but it does seem a little hypocritical to rate films, videos, DVDs and even computer games before audio CDs - and all because of this idea that visuals are more impactful than sound...this is actually very interesting because i think you'd find that if you put the Benny Hill theme over Hellraiser kids would find it a lot less scary/nasty/inciteful whereas putting Cradle Of Filth featuring MC Swearbox over a Pokemon cartoon would be TRULY distrubing and deserving of an 18 certificate, heh

stevem (blueski), Friday, 13 December 2002 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

its all a waste of time tho given that under 18s will just get pirated/downloaded CDs easily enough...or just copy the stuff from their older siblings/friends (like i used to with N.W.A. when i was 11)

stevem (blueski), Friday, 13 December 2002 14:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic or Dud stickers would rock my world.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 December 2002 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

that's queeng'sland to you my friends - I'm gonn a apply to be in charge of the system and ban all missy elliot.

Queen G (Queeng), Saturday, 14 December 2002 15:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

wet blanket!

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 14 December 2002 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

this is speculating a bit, but the licensing of films (as opposed to videos, DVDs etc) surely derives from the fact that venues like cinemas, theatres, clubs etc need to get LOCAL licenses, and it's more convenient for everyone (inc.film-makers) if there's one committee per country setting the standards on whether [a] is lewd and [b] is fit for kids blah blah. (In the UK, theatre used to rated by the Lord Chancellor, I think until abt 1967, when they realised that no one under 30 gave a toss about theatre any more haha)

so it's as much as anything a historical hangover (as well as generally still somewhat convenient niche-marketing wise) that all film-related product gets a once-for-all rating from a central official body

CD-rating (parental advisory etc) is done by the record companies themselves, isn't it? presumably on the same market logic that irons are sold with the instructions "warning: do not iron clothes while you are wearing them" — ie to avoid opportunistic litigation) PLUS it's a good signal to send to slipknot fans that they will lurve this rekkid

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 14 December 2002 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

sorry i didn't complete the first point: once the films are rated, then a cinema's local licence can be dependent on "will only show films of this rated type, never that", thus if a multiplex suddenly starts screening hardcore porn, it will be delicensed even though the Adult Movie Theatre in the very next street continues to run happily unbothered

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 14 December 2002 16:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

rating stuff for adults only makes kids want it more too

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 14 December 2002 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Or maybe Classic, dud and Oasis.
I'll only endorse this system if you could explain how 'dud' and 'Oasis' are two different things.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 16 December 2002 16:03 (twenty-one years ago) link


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