Scritti Politti: Classic Or Dud

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It's been days and days since I started a thread, so time to ease myself back in with a C-o-D. Four fairly distinct eras to roam over and a fairly divisive pop vision. Is it is it wicked? I say YES. (i.e. Classic, sorry.) Will explain why below probably.

Tom, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I nearly bought Anomie and Bonhomie today. Anyway - I can't say that I've followed them that closely, but I've always filed them under "kind of good to have around". "The Sweetest Girl" is genius and Songs to Remember is also pretty good although a little too knowingly clever, although I haven't heard it in 10 years. Whilst no doubt intelligent and classy, the remainder of their 80's work left me cold - I wouldn't mind a re-listen to see if I was wrong. A best- of would be my ideal entry point, but as far as I know there isn't one, is there?

I guess the problem is that I've always found that the likes of Scritti and Prefab Sprout musically just TOO close to the middle of the road to grab my attention for long enough.

The VERY early stuff, "Skank..." etc was good.

Dr. C, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't know much about their (his ?) music, but you gotta give props to a guy who starts out with this obscure political punk-reggae thing on a small indie label ("Skank Bloc Bologna" should have made my ILM Top 100 ballot) and ends up 6 years later in Billboard's R&B chart, AND covered by Miles Davis.

Patrick, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

At the time of release I loved the singles "Wood Beez", "Absolute", and "The Word Girl", and bought them all. Apart from anything else they represented 'state-of-the-art' to an 80's productianophile like me.

David, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

loved the singles David refers to - but not as much as the last track on 'ANOMIE AND BONHOMIE' -'BRUSHED WITH OIL, DUSTED WITH POWDER'- GORGEOUS REST OF ALBUM SOSO- fact is I only got to hear it coz of the POPART cover - missus lecturing - got it out of central library.

(i've just heard about Hearsay causing bad vibes by shock appearance at WOW festival on THE ONLY DAY I DIDN'T GO - supposedly lots of drunken aggro ensued )

geordie racer, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Good call, David. I adore the _Cupid and Psyche '85_ singles and have listened to them consistently these last few days. Indeed I very nearly, uncannily, posted a thread with exactly this subject line a while back.

They are, as you say, fantastic-*sounding* records; among the pop singles which I can listen to over and over again and still expect to be finding something new. I can barely describe the excitement "Wood Beez", especially, inspires in me; it's almost falling over itself with interest in, and fascination with, love and pop.

"Jacques Derrida", "Skank Bloc Bologna", "Perfect Way" (*how* could that single have missed the UK Top 40?), "Oh Patti" and "Prince Among Men" as well. So, yeah, classic in excelsis.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I draw everyone's attention to Simon Reynolds' superb piece on the Gartside man in the new Wire ("Epiphanies"). Whatever DID happen to Tom Morley?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The exact *day* I moved to London, I saw Tom Morley on a bicycle in Notting Hill.

(Actually from my mate Dunc's car, I mean: I was still in transmit...)

I believe this was the last anyone saw of him anywhere ever.

mark s, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love 'Cupid & Psyche' and "Boom! There She Was," the single they did with Roger Troutman. Both fey and hard. In many ways, their sound (of their dance-pop period, which is what matters most to me, though "Sweetest Girl" is great too) was a precursor to Destiny's Child and Timbaland: lots of jagged edges and chick-a chick-a ssss tat-tat kind of stuff. (This also makes Green a precursor to Blaque and Pink.)

s woods, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The '4 A Sides' 12" EP is one of my favourite records - it's still got that fairly lo-fi intricate 3 piece sound of the other early singles (which I love as well) but you can hear Green starting to enjoy the melodies more than anything else.

'The Sweetest Girl' is just terrific (although it wouldn't be half as good if Robert Wyatt wasn't noodling away on organ in the background) but most of the rest of the first album is pretty ordinairy.

The other three LPs have all got some shit but the other great songs on them more than make up for the lapses.

philT, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Scott's point about Timbaland is EXACTLY why I asked the qn - was listening to "Wood Beez" the other day and was just transported by the production, the mad number of sounds, ideas, drop-outs, come- backs, tricks and twists in it. It seemed such an obvious precursor of the production schools we know/love on this board, and then it was all sewn up by Green's lacy, white-chocolate (much underrated) voice. Listening to that - and the rest of the album, but particularly on that day "Wood Beez" - they just sounded like the most fabulous band ever.

I don't know the earliest stuff.

Tom, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who produced "Wood Beez" and all that good stuff?

Dr. C, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wood Beez and Absolute were produced by the legendary Arif Mardin, but Cupid + Psyche 85 is mostly produced by the band themselves. It was the first LP I ever bought. It only has sentimental value to me nowadays as the overblown eighties production makes the album almost unlistenable to me. Although I can't find it anymore in my house, I guess Songs To Remember doesn't have that problem. I remember that having great songs on it. Although I did get the Oh Patti single (with Miles Davis, no less), I, huge Scritti fan at the time, didn't buy the follow-up to C+S. (one of my first big pop disappointments - which would make for good thread in itself). The album that came out last year was pretty ridiculous, with its Foo Fighters influence and misplaced Mos Def guest appearance, and a complete flop.

JoB, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I played Scritti's 'She's a woman' to death and still love it. Scritti plus Shabba Ranks, BEF production and William Orbit's remix - this was Green's absolute peak. As a great Beatles cover it equals Siouxie's.

Otherwise? I love the sound of Scritti more than the performances - Green is too dispassionate for me. He should have been funny - a Ferry /Eno synthesis, but as the only romantic new-romantic he took himself far too seriously.

Guy, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Here's a link for a Perfect Sound Forever article on early Scritti Politti

philT, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

hmmm >> http://www.furious.com/perfect/scritti.html

philT, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The idea of being thrilled by Arif Mardin's production touches seems just as 'muso' as enjoying a John Squire guitar solo. No doubt someone will tell me it's not.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well yeah it is, except - Squire is about real-time 'chops' and the reproduction thereof whereas production thrills are about painstaking assemblage of sounds. For me, neither are muso in the sense of one technician appreciating another, as I'd have no idea how to do either of them.

Also like a good solo the Arif Mardin trickbox is in the service of a greater whole - "Wood Beez", though the chorus is a bit coy, *moves* me.

Tom, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The production *is* thrilling, but through its clever use of new technology, not because of any reverence for Arif Mardin's reputation or previous achievements. At least that was my response to it.

David, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, classic.

I'm a bit ignorant of the early singles, but what I've heard is appealling scruffy and knotted. After that, of course, Green runs a mighty steel comb through the music and it's all midday sun gleaming off polished girders. "The 'Sweetest' Girl" is magnificent; I've never quite been able to decide whether it's "Wood Beez" or "Absolute" that stands as the asphyxiating pinnacle of 'Cupid & Psyche'. The collaborations and odd singles are mostly terrific; just as I'd never heard of Bermondsey before Peter Tatchell brought it to my attention, I suspect GG introduced me to Miles Davis.

Which leaves 'Anomie and Bonhomie' - which I like more in theory than practise, and a whole lot more than the fellow who lent it to me*. The gas-croon is still intact, and even the guitar-heavy moments have this cut-glass quality. Hyperventilating hyphens! Lysergic dandy axis!

(* - badly structured sentence; I don't like the LP as much as the *person* who lent it to me. He's funnier.)

Michael Jones, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom, if I've felt that way about the production on "Wood Beez" lately, I've felt it a thousand times.

I quite like the early tracks I've heard ("Skank Bloc Bologna" and "Messthetics"). They sound like a band with *ambition* to move away from the post-punk rabble, and a more precise ambition (not better or worse, just different) than that being displayed at the time by, say, the Fall.

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Guy: yep, "She's A Woman" and Green's take on "Take Me In Your Arms And Love Me", two very underrated singles from that lost period in the early 90s.

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
As with "Loveless" ILM (probably Tom and Robin this time) has caused me to flip a long-standing opinion. This time it's Scritti Politti - specifically "Provision", bought for a quid a few weeks back. The ridiculous inner sleeve featuring a bow-tie clad Green and two session fops would have consigned the album to the bottom of the pile for at least a decade had I not been intrigued by some of the Scritti- comment on ILM. (Yes I know, Cupid and Psyche '85 is REALLY the one to get...) Similarly the opening Simmons-drum rolls of "Boom! There She Was" would usually receive a mandatory 5-stretch without parole. (I hate the Simmons drum sound - usually).

Anyway, Holy shit! It's fantastic. The surface gloss is in fact made up of a billion clever bass 'n percussion 'n keyboard speaker- twisting studio-tricks which sound fresh and fun. Three of the songs (Oh Patti, First Boy in This Town (Lovesick) and Philosophy Now) have better pop hooks than I've heard for years. So, Cupid and Psyche next - might be prepared to spend £1.50 this time!

Dr. C, Friday, 21 September 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
I have C+S now (I spent $10 on it). First reaction - not as good as Provision, but still fantastic. It just sounds SO nano-engineered, so 'fabricated in a silicon wafer plant' that it's one of the most extreme *sounding* records I've heard. Nothing quite moves me like Oh Patti, but it's early doors yet.

I love the way that the Mardin productions and the band productions *sound* completely different yet meet the same spec. of precision and accuracy.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

i wonder if tom will give dr. c as much shite as he gave me for basically the same comments re. c&p 85. ;)

i recently burned myself a comp of 15 or so of the earliest SP songs (basically the first 4 singles/peel sessions.) it's been about all i've wanted to listen to while sick. "skank" and "messthetics" in particular have been oddly soothing.

jess, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Provision's overbearing production gloss completely ruined it for me - I listened to it in its entirety once and couldn't imagine ever pulling it out again. The same thing almost occurred with Prefab Sprout's From Langley Park... but I still love dipping into that one on occasion.

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Still classic?

Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I would say their 80s material is classic (particularly "Cupid & Psyche '85", while "Anomie and Bonhomie" was a major disappointment. And this is not because of the rapping (which works fine, in a way), but more because of the fact that all those "conventional" instruments just don't fit them well.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 March 2003 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Btw. Scritti Politti is IMO the only act ever to manage to improve on a Beatles original. All other cover versions of Lennon/McCartney songs are inferior to the originals, but Green's genius cover version of "She's a Woman" has got everything the original doesn't

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 March 2003 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link

All covers of Beatles songs are better 'cause they're newer Geir.

Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Old music is usually better than recent music. At least it has been during the past 15 years.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 March 2003 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Please revive!

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Wood Beez-oh god, just leave me alone in a vacuum with this music forever. Thanks.

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 04:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Best Voice Ever

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 04:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I want them to play Scritti Politti at my funeral. what song should it be?

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link

i must drag out C&Ps again, one of the first records i bought. When i was about 12 i used to do special remixes (extended versions in those days) with the pause button of my tape player. I think i spun Wood Beez out to about 12 minutes, hehe, i loved it so much. of Its all about the 4ASides for me now though. I'd love to hear my 12 minute "version" of Wood Beez again.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link

we need to find the thread with tom's theory that scritti's career is a secret precis of green gettig better in bed

benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 09:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, but he started by singing "In and out, the Western world"

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 10:04 (eighteen years ago) link

he was up with Michael Jackson in terms of actual technical prowess by '85, and that album is my favourite, in that i just want to keep listening to it more and more,

but i think he was just as clever on the first albums/stuff,

i never got to hear the first songs in any form until very recently, except for the poltical excesses of NME interviews circa early scritti stance, which made for entertaining rock stars, and i'm getting my head around those songs and they're sinking in just like the other two records

i think of the 4 A sides stuff as content art-punk, so the beautiful pop charms of the arty '85, not short on content as crafted pop songs with good hooks and construction, i suspect some people find it sexy

george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd just like to point out that Green was one of the nicest, most full-of-interesting-things-to-say people I've ever interviewed. I wish he made more records.

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

we need to find the thread with tom's theory that scritti's career is a secret precis of green gettig better in bed

Well, I've read every Scritti thread recently so here you are:

The sound of Scritti Politti 1978 to 1985 is essentially the sound of Green Gartside getting better in bed.

-- Tom (ebro...), December 3rd, 2001 7:00 PM.
(Scritti Politti)

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish he did more interviews too; i wish more was known about the whole story, a book, perhaps .. another Welsh rock'n'roll mystery for me; that "epiphany" was good.

yes, i got the impression Green was a fun person to be in the company of -- i read numerous new wave articles in the NME at that age as a matter of daily routine, so it's with some pleasure that i actually remember a particular NME feature (i was very young), since not having had much money as a kid, i'd been handsomely rewarded with both their/his records.

george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, i got the impression Green was a fun person to be in the company of

you got it wrong. the most disappointing meeting with someone who was and still remains a bit of a hero of my youth possible. smug and arrogant is the way i'd put it.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

perhaps i should stick to the little bits of info i have and just the music

was the unpeasantness there in the early phase ? was it bought out later with his subsequent success ? (Michael Jackson associations ?)

(will this gossip just lead to "i didn't want to know that stuff since yeah he was a kind'a cool hero", Dave ?)

george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i met him, he was rude in an almost verbatim "you know who i am" kinda way. it was disappointing as his music meant/still means quite a lot to me and i expected much better. he still drinks in my local pub, i don't talk to him.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Why is he so lazy?

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Just put on C&P 85 for the first time in years -- god, this is summertime incarnate.

Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

(wish I knew, Adam!)

Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I managed to accidently delete "Sweetest girls" and "Skank Bloc Bologna" from my hard drive.

If anyway would burn the early stuff onto CD for me I'd be forever grateful.

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i can send you both those tracks if you like.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

also, i know people accuse green of having done the careerist-auteur thing when he broke off with the original scritti bandmates, but there's something about the collaborative approach to cupid that reminds me of eno's anti-auteurist "scenius" philosophy -- it comes from a very english, humble, social-democratic mindset. pop as (expensive) populism.

no fucks given or implied (get bent), Friday, 6 February 2015 04:44 (seven years ago) link

C'mon, he INVENTED um... all that.

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2015 07:38 (seven years ago) link

I don't think Dr C was disparaging explanation, Alfred, I think that comment was part of the ongoing old-ilx discussion of the value of "chops". If someone back then had pitched up and said "I like record X because that dude is so good on the guitar" they would have been disparaged, so the Doctor was asking why it's better to say "I like record Y because that dude is so good at using the studio."

I think its the lack of explanation he's pointing out - what he wants is "this production is great because it does this and this and that ends up doing this and this to me when I listen to it".

The nearest old-ILM came to a consensus, I think, was that no-one wanted to value technique for its own sake, thinking end product more interesting.

Tim, Friday, 6 February 2015 09:49 (seven years ago) link

old ilm = old punks.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 February 2015 11:13 (seven years ago) link

Here they come,
shalalala laa laaa,
shalalala laa laaa,
The part time ILXors

They post on Tuesdays...

(etc)

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2015 12:08 (seven years ago) link

the production on this (and david gamson's fairlight programming) is sublime.

In 10 years time this will be "ah old ILM".

Utterly huggers (Tom D.), Friday, 6 February 2015 12:30 (seven years ago) link

I remember when "Cupid" came out and thinking it was just the thing I'd been looking for - "new wave" people doing r & b. Recently this promoted me to listen to all of the late seventies & early 80's funk I could find, it goes better with that music.

SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Friday, 6 February 2015 13:42 (seven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

is this the most delightful bedroom guitar youtube of all time??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPClpdbnbk0

goole, Friday, 8 January 2016 21:13 (six years ago) link

chik-kahhhhh

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 8 January 2016 21:20 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

hey so i will be at the show this friday if any of you will too

maura, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 16:25 (six years ago) link

:)

maura, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 16:25 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/01056/97120514-cb58-11e5_1056010b.jpg

following the recent white-person-with-dreadlocks conversation, I was wondering if scritti's original drummer tom morley was the first white-person-with-dreadlocks pop star? I'm probably forgetting someone really obvious

soref, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:11 (six years ago) link

he still has dreadlocks btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EG3LO3i4FI

soref, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:11 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Wonder if we'll get a new album from him soon? Already eight years since White Bread Black Beer.

― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:35 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Weird to think that he's in his 60s now.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 12:58 (six years ago) link

he is appearing at the 'end of the road' festival later this year, so perhaps there is new material to showcase.

mark e, Thursday, 26 May 2016 13:01 (six years ago) link

he's been threatening a new album this year, but who knows

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 May 2016 13:08 (six years ago) link

he played new stuff in February!!

maura, Thursday, 26 May 2016 15:46 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Screeetti Poleeetti's guide to DIY record releasing (from 1980):

https://twitter.com/MusicLikeDirt/status/756564212760084484

Jeff W, Saturday, 23 July 2016 16:23 (five years ago) link

ten months pass...

My favorites. They make my heart invincible.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:25 (five years ago) link

alfred can i just say how much i love your blog?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 June 2017 08:13 (five years ago) link

Echoing that completely (your aloneness piece was great as well). I'd probably pick the same 15 tbh.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 June 2017 09:24 (five years ago) link

thank you both!!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 June 2017 10:23 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Do fans of this group like these songs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RydKrJo0mko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJkvyZ73kZ0

billstevejim, Friday, 4 January 2019 22:53 (three years ago) link

This is what it sounds like to me.

billstevejim, Friday, 4 January 2019 22:54 (three years ago) link

i do

maura, Saturday, 5 January 2019 02:13 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

I wanted to post this live recording up as I was going back through hard drives and have been listening to it quite a bit recently.

It's from The University Of London 11-16-1979, pretty fascinating, in my humble.

I had read that they made songs up on the fly during performances and was always a bit sceptical, but this recording bears that out and the whole gig seems, well really quite fraught but compelling.

It's interesting to hear them pull a song out of thin air and there's also a song that I can't find any mention of on Google called "John's on the dole' (the notes call it 'drums on the door' though) which is pretty great despite equipment problems and what sounds like some very vocal, smart alec-y mates in the audience.

https://we.tl/t-SzlTBDz7zf

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 August 2019 20:39 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Great in depth interview by Trevor Jackson with Green Gartside on NTS

https://www.mixcloud.com/NTSRadio/trevor-jackson-green-gartside-29th-october-2019/

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Thursday, 31 October 2019 03:19 (two years ago) link

THANKS!!!

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 31 October 2019 04:36 (two years ago) link

somehow it's amazing to hear GG talking like a normal person thinking about things. I have actually met and spoken to him irl, fwiw, but the meeting is a blur. We talked about the fact that we were both wearing very similar yellow jackets. It's honestly the only thing I remember other than how tall he was (I'm tiny and was overwhelmed)

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 31 October 2019 04:45 (two years ago) link

Yeah, this is really fascinating. (Just getting to the end right....now!) Thanks!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 31 October 2019 06:00 (two years ago) link

Thanks for sharing that, lovely stuff.

I can feel a Scritti jag coming on, where nothing else will do for a week or so.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 31 October 2019 13:23 (two years ago) link

this is a phenomenal interview

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:18 (two years ago) link

:O @ that early version of "wood beez"

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:36 (two years ago) link

That early version is as great in its own way.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:41 (two years ago) link

waiting to see if Green pops up at all in the Henry Cow book.
Heard taht chris cutler was less than complementary about the early Scritti stuff he was played.

Stevolende, Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:47 (two years ago) link

awesome

cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:59 (two years ago) link

I love how Trevor Jackson played the System and Robert Palmer's "You Are in My System" and forced Green to choose.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:11 (two years ago) link

Goodness -- I didn't know about this Pete Rock remix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywr4GN6DS5E

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2019 20:00 (two years ago) link

Kraftwerk saying they hate reggae vs. Robert Palmer calling while swimming with dolphins.

cheese canopy (map), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:04 (two years ago) link

Green's the 600th person to insist that Palmer's appetite for music was at odds with his image.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:09 (two years ago) link

No RP was a total music nerd...just look at his choice of covers...he even covered Husker Du...ps the story of his mum smashing the Beatles 7” was utterly heartbreaking...

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:46 (two years ago) link

seven months pass...

ICYMI, two new Green songs (a single, in fact) released yesterday:

https://open.spotify.com/album/0kSN6bCRIdNskZmOlQhnVg?si=jksozpT_QbCSJWogjUBrtw

Jeff W, Saturday, 20 June 2020 19:03 (two years ago) link

I've been dealing with Anomie and Bonhomie the last week. What an album. It doesn't work, but this collaboration between Gartside and Mos Def, Ndegeocello, etc is fascinating for its era. The rock guitar is a bit much.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 June 2020 19:27 (two years ago) link

imo it totally works

green is ashamed of the foo fighters worship tracks but i love them, great power-pop

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 June 2020 19:33 (two years ago) link

"Brushed With Oil.." ranks among his best too, and I love the remixes.

Still thinking about it.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 June 2020 19:34 (two years ago) link

yes "brushed with oil" is gorgeous

i think "umm" is one of my top five scritti songs

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 June 2020 20:01 (two years ago) link

I bought Anomie and Bonhomie not long after it came out. It was a complete WTF for most people, myself included. But even before it aged well—and that’s maybe a bit debatable and he sounds a bit like a guest at times—you had to tip your cap to the fact that the guy just gives no fucks and does what he wants, whether it’s the rap metal and fey grunge of this or the I’m-gonna-carbon-copy-my-best-album-and-top-it of Provision.

Interested in the new single.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 2 July 2020 22:38 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

https://scrittipolitti.ffm.to/reissues

vinyl reissues of cupid & psyche and anomie and bonhomie

yes i bought both immediately

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 June 2021 15:42 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

https://pocketmags.com/mojo-magazine/jun-22/articles/1133453/he-s-back-after-16-years-green-gartside-readies-scritti-politti-lp-six

just stumbled over this - didn't read the actual article but it sure sounds promising!
fingers crossed...

Pagoda, Thursday, 16 June 2022 09:01 (two weeks ago) link


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