― Peter M, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 05:47 (twenty years ago) link
oh, and classic, by the way.
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 06:00 (twenty years ago) link
I like "And nothing turned itself inside out" the best.
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 06:36 (twenty years ago) link
Not precisely.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 06:40 (twenty years ago) link
We saw them when they played the RFH a couple of years back with Neil Innes and Robyn Hitchcock added to the line-up. Magic.
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 10:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Peter M, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 12:01 (twenty years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 12:51 (twenty years ago) link
sxxx
― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 12:56 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 15:13 (twenty years ago) link
good article:http://www.prosoundweb.com/recording/tapeop/roger/roger.php
― Sean Peoples (speoples), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 15:17 (twenty years ago) link
― chk chk chk, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:38 (twenty years ago) link
Yes. And Then Nothing... comes in a digipak which looks pretty bad after a couple years of wear and tear. That's a pretty big flaw.
FOR GOD'S SAKE, THEY NAMED A SONG AFTER A TROY MCCLURE TV SPECIAL! CLASSIC X 1000!
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 17:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 17:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 01:24 (twenty years ago) link
― David Allen, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 01:33 (twenty years ago) link
Anyway, I was listening to this song today and looked up the lyrics. I never heard Paul Le Mat or KAte Moss when listening casually.
Everyday (Yo La Tengo)
I want summer's sad songs behind me.I want a laugh a minute, without failWant to be Paul Le Mat in 1980Looking to forget tomorrow, looking everyday.
I want to see you put your hands together.I want to cross my heartI want to hope to dieI hear Kate Moss talk, she talks to meShe's looking for a new beginning everyday.
When Monday comes I want nothingCome Tuesday morning I want the sameThe days and nights fly byLooking to embrace the nothing, of the everyday
― Aaron A., Wednesday, 11 December 2002 07:46 (twenty years ago) link
"And then Nothing..." and "I Can Hear the Heart..." were both in the NME's top 20 albums of the year. Hardly a diss. I have those two recs, plus Electropura, which is good, sloppy fuzz-pop. "And then Nothing.." is gloopy, washy, forgettable ambience. "I Can Hear the heart..." is simply one of the best records of the 90's. Lovely, sweet, touching melodies everywhere. Frequently slathered in beautiful noise. Who could want for more?
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 13:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Alan Connor (alanconnor), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 23:44 (twenty years ago) link
However I really like The Sounds Of The Sounds Of Science - one of my fave releases of the year.
― Chris Barrus (xibalba), Thursday, 12 December 2002 18:50 (twenty years ago) link
but what i really want to say is that their cover of neil young's "barstool blues" has been kicking my ass around for about almost 2 weeks now.
― gygax!, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 23:11 (twenty years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 06:58 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:56 (twenty years ago) link
1990, "Here Comes My Baby" PROMO-ONLY CDEP (Bar None Records)Here Comes My Baby (from Fakebook)The Story of Jazz (live)Barstool Blues (live)Let's Compromise (live, w/Chris Nelson singing)At The River's Edge (live)Ecstasy Blues (live)Speeding Motorcycle (w/Daniel Johnston singing via telephone)
The live songs were recorded at our first-ever Berlin date on a not-especially-pleasant European tour. Chris Nelson, formerly of Information ("Let's Compromise" was one of their songs), later of Mofungo and The Scene Is Now, accompanied us. His occasional lead vocals provided us with many of the tour's memorable moments, particularly a frenzied performance of "1969" at our first-ever Madrid data. It was a free show and therefore packed a fairly large rock club (named The Rock Club), through it turned out there was still sufficient space for the crowd to get out of Chris' wasy when he decided to stage diver from the too-high-to-land-back-first stage. He limped for the rest of the tour, which didn't keep him from playing a stellar short solo set in Nijmegen, where we heard him debut "Gone For A Long Time" if memory serves.--Ira Kaplan
― gygax!, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 20:56 (twenty years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 16 January 2003 06:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 16 January 2003 07:33 (twenty years ago) link
(if so plz lemme know asap thx)
― Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
I love this band. They make me smile. THERE IS SO MUCH LOVE.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 28 March 2004 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 28 March 2004 06:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Painful has been my favourite of late, esp. Sudden Organ.
― derrick (derrick), Sunday, 28 March 2004 06:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Piers (piers), Monday, 15 November 2004 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link
i like quite a bit of painful, too, but it seems to me that the more and more they've gone into sonic fuckery, the less and less attention they've paid to the songs. i liked them best when they had that balance.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link
(And why don't HTML tags work for me fcc - how you doin' 'em?)
― Piers (piers), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link
"Painful" is wonderful, it's an album that I can hear two or three times in a day without getting tired of it. "Nowhere Near" was in the top 10 on my ballot for the 90's poll.
As others have mentioned, YLT really should keep their albums under 50 minutes or so, although when they go totally bonkers with their eclecticism ("I Can Hear the Heart ...") they can be excused for stretching things out another ten minutes.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
However, I sure wish they'd take the mic away from Ira. God, I hate his voice. Sometimes, I don't think he's even trying.
― darin (darin), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Also the Today is the Day , EP version, is pretty fantastic ..
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Electropura is my favorite. All the "rockists" HATED Summer Sun when it came out.
Great taste in covers too. And they named themselves after a Richie Ashburn tall tale, how Classic can you get?
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dark Horse, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
this one's also stylistically the closest to their 90s peak since then
Then I'm psyched!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:41 (three weeks ago) link
Fade rules, I Am Not Afraid Of You rules, There's a Riot rules, wtf u jaded cynics
― sleeve, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:43 (three weeks ago) link
"this band keeps being good, it's so boring"
tbh Stuff Like That There is top 5 for me...a superfan :D
― dronestreet, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:45 (three weeks ago) link
i am not afraid of you is quite good! but after a few listens i think i like the new one more
― ufo, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:51 (three weeks ago) link
lol it's not that any of it is bad or sub par or even boring, it's just that there never seems to be anything drawing me back. Maybe that's really a "me" problem...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:56 (three weeks ago) link
I felt pretty much the same way; thought for a few years I’d had my fill of Yo La Tengo albums, but these 2 new songs have piqued my interest again — they’re pretty much exactly what I want from them.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 00:35 (two weeks ago) link
Summer Sun is extremely underrated
― Cow_Art, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 02:10 (two weeks ago) link
Which sort of underscores my point, as I honestly haven't listened to it since it came out; at the time, following "And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out," it felt something like a disappointment. So is it underrated? Maybe! At this stage I'd call half their catalog underrated (to me, at least), because scanning the album titles there's not a single one I recall disliking, but also not a single one that pops out as something I specifically return to. It's like the last half dozen albums have been one really long compilation.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 13:26 (two weeks ago) link
I've been having my own moment with them as a listener these past few months. I loved them in the late '90s as a teen and have always given what they release a listen but hadn't really spent real time with their records for a while...then I grabbed some cheap copies of Stuff Like That There and I Am Not Afraid Of You... and now I'm all the way back in. SLTT is a good example of something I thought I wouldn't need (probably dismissed it unfairly when it came out as "just" quiet covers or something)--it's actually wonderful. And gentle, sure, but still demonstrating their range and taste to superb effect. Sleepless Nights is similar and achieves that weird feeling of like...this is minor work from them in the long run but I still am stunned it's so successful.
I'm someone who thinks Fade is a top 5 album of theirs so I don't feel like their best days are long behind them. (I know that album is now a decade old-wow.) But I'm really excited for this new one.
― mr. milligan, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 13:55 (two weeks ago) link
I wish I saved a screenshot of this, but around 2006, there was this bootleg forum I frequented where people traded CD-R's of various shows, and one day, this post comes up where a user calls out another user for sending him a threat with a package of bootlegs he sent him. It's a long, angry post, but also a little vague on the details, and the user it's addressed to actually responds with some bewilderment. Turns out, what sparked the angry post was something like a ribbon or poster promoting Yo La Tengo's upcoming album, but it's designed to look like someone scrawled on a piece of paper "I Am Not Afraid of You and I Will Beat Your Ass." The other guy had included it as a surprise gift.
It was a hilarious misunderstanding, and searching for it now, I found the item in question.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:10 (two weeks ago) link
amazing
― Evan, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:15 (two weeks ago) link
haha that's classic
― sleeve, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 19:30 (two weeks ago) link
I love that record title so much because YLT has to be a contender for the least threatening band in all of indie rock's history.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 19:52 (two weeks ago) link
Agree. And yet, you put that record on without any context and it drops right into the intensity of Pass the Hatchet, it totally feels like it fits the title
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:51 (two weeks ago) link
Good point, it was around that album when I last saw them live, killer shows (god, it's been so long! glad I'll see them in March).
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 January 2023 15:42 (two weeks ago) link
I think it’s actually quite a feat that YLT have remained so consistently good without ever turning that quality into a knock against them. Yes some albums are better than others but personally, aside from the ones that caught me at just the right personal moments of my life, I don’t even have any desire to rank them. Just let ‘em play and may keep playing for a long long time
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 20 January 2023 02:25 (two weeks ago) link
Yeah, to be honest that is a different but good way of looking at it. I have a couple of favorite records that also happen to be a couple of my favorite records, period. Do I think any of the many others hold up to those? No, not really. But from the band's formative works to their most recent stuff, I know I can always just throw on any random yo la tango album and enjoy it.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 January 2023 02:47 (two weeks ago) link
I've sat down multiple times over the past few years to try to rank the YLT albums and it's damn near impossible for me, the level of consistent quality is so great that I end up just frustrated by not being able to rank like nine of them in my top 5.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 January 2023 04:19 (two weeks ago) link
Grade 4/5 class working on some art as we listen to Fade. The best.
― clemenza, Friday, 20 January 2023 20:09 (two weeks ago) link
Fade is such a great album, particularly with the second disc on the deluxe version.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 January 2023 20:14 (two weeks ago) link
I really need to catch up on the last few albums since Fade.
― I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Thursday, 26 January 2023 05:53 (one week ago) link
I think they're overrated. Its like they're always playing that safe 60' pop melodies through an alt ock filter. Its like pavement post s&e.
― CerebralCaustic, Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:14 (one week ago) link
"I want to see you put your hands together.I want to cross my heartI want to hope to dieI hear Kate Moss talk, she talks to meShe's looking for a new beginning everyday."
Embarrasing lyrics
― CerebralCaustic, Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:20 (one week ago) link
You can boil down literally any band to an unfair oversimplification, and then fans will counter with tons of examples that don't adhere to it. What do we accomplish in the end?
― Evan, Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:24 (one week ago) link
Even if one were to grant this as absolutely true, this would only be one of the many threads they wind through their albums. They have a lot more going on than that.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:46 (one week ago) link
I don't understand what "safe" has to do with a melody.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:48 (one week ago) link
xps In this case even the song cited as having embarrassing lyrics is a counterexample to the reason given for thinking they're overrated!
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:56 (one week ago) link
Just because I've been listening to a lot of I Am Not Afraid of You..., don't hear any "safe 60' pop melodies" on, say, "Pass the Hatchet, I Think I'm Goodkind".
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:58 (one week ago) link
I'd suggest to accept "no lo tengo" and move on
― Evan, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:01 (one week ago) link
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 26, 2023 9:48 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Melodies should only be composed by cats running across pianos all other melodies are safe spaces for snowflakes
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:01 (one week ago) link
I've heard both of those things on WFMU in one day
― Evan, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:03 (one week ago) link
In the same song, I'm willing to bet.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:04 (one week ago) link
On paper an Ira Kaplan guitar solo may appear composed by frightened piano cats, and if the rest of the song is a safe 60s pop melody then we're checking all the boxes. No wonder they're WFMU's darlings
― Evan, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:08 (one week ago) link
In other news, I just saw this yesterday, really lovely, apologies if posted already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcxiSRg41-M
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:12 (one week ago) link
I miss them being a neighbor in town. I currently live on the same street they were on for all those years.
― Evan, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:15 (one week ago) link
Lovely 1959 melody there
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:19 (one week ago) link
I hadn't noticed valued poster CerebralCaustic's other great contributions today or else I wouldn't have bothered to feed the troll.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:19 (one week ago) link
cerebral and caustic!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:20 (one week ago) link
anyhooooo — good podcast w/ McNew over here! https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2023/01/25/transmissions-james-mcnew-yo-la-tengo-dump/
― tylerw, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:22 (one week ago) link
Who was Goodkind again? All this time I thought they were band but Google doesn't turn up anything definitive?
― Chris L, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:23 (one week ago) link
I assumed it was for fantasy writer Terry Goodkind, but I'm not sure.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:27 (one week ago) link
Presumably also a nod to the Black Randy album title "Pass the dust, I think I'm Bowie."
― nickn, Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:49 (one week ago) link
or perhaps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgy4A7O6rQE
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 26 January 2023 19:51 (one week ago) link
^^ yeah that was my take on it
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 January 2023 20:14 (one week ago) link
YLT are kind of like GBV now where you probably can't doubt the quality of their output, it's going to sound very much like you expect it to, there are a lot of albums, they are all good, and you can be forgiven for getting slightly bored with them.
I saw YLT for the first time in 25 years a few months back and they were so great, still. But now I feel like I could go another 5 years before seeing them again.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 26 January 2023 20:43 (one week ago) link
I remembered Tom Goodkind's name popping up in New York Rocker back in the day. I still don't understand the song title.
Tom Goodkind, a longtime fixture on the New York City music scene, best known as the co-founder of The Washington Squares folk revival group, died Feb. 28, 2019, in the city after a long battle with a chronic degenerative illness. He was 65.
In recent years, Goodkind served as the conductor of the Lower Manhattan-based all-volunteer group TriBattery Pops, described as something of a contemporary spin on the traditional marching band. Earlier in his career Goodkind was instrumental in creating and/or managing such popular New York music venues as Irving Plaza, the Peppermint Lounge and Roseland.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 26 January 2023 20:45 (one week ago) link
Yeah that New York Rocker connection certainly makes more sense than my Terry Goodkind reading.
I realized I haven't seen them since Pitchfork 2006, so I'm really excited to see them again in March.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 January 2023 21:39 (one week ago) link
idk ylt definitely have more stylistic variety than gbv
― ufo, Thursday, 26 January 2023 22:06 (one week ago) link
i'm buying that? no la tengo
― CerebralCaustic, Thursday, 26 January 2023 22:17 (one week ago) link