am i really the only person who doesn't care about reunions/reunitings/new music by old bands, like, at all? is there something wrong with me?

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that chameleons thread reminds me that, for some reason, i have no interest in new music by old bands who get back together after years apart. or seeing them live. i don't really know why. i DID go see chameleons in the late 90s at JC Dobbs in philadelphia because i thought it was such an unlikely thing and i got to go with my best friend from high school and we both loved the chameleons in the 80s. but that was pretty much the only time i was excited for something like that. i did go see the pretty things in philly in the 90s. but i had no great hopes for that. it was fine. but that's it. that's the extent of my reunion fever. oh wait i WAS excited to see the Adolescents in 1986 or 1987. but to be fair they had only been out of commission for about 4 years. the straightedge kids were so bored by them. i was the only person jumping up and down for "amoeba". and i DID write a 10 out of 10 review of Monotheist by Celtic Frost for Decibel Magazine which was a genuine reunion, but let's be honest, it was a reunion between two people and only one of them was the true creative genius behind the music. and that's it. and i have next to no interest in past legends or shadowy figures and cult favorites dragged out on tour by jack white or devendra banhart or some superfan garage/psych musician. no offense to linda perhacs. i just don't care. i feel like a meany. i'm happy that other people care and get to see their heroes. i DID go see Jandek here but only because it seemed like it was going to be a bizarro david lynch kinda thing and he did not disappoint on that score. it was his "country" show. BUT, it should be noted, Jandek never stopped making music. he had just never gone out and played live. he wasn't a revival act. just a world-class oddity.
wait, i did see steely dan in saratoga when they first started playing live again. i went with my brother and my parents. that was really kinda the reason to go. my parents lived near there. but it was a genuine reunion thing. they were great. they didn't sound any different than they had on album in 1980. i never listened to their reunion albums though.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 15:55 (one month ago) link

this is the show i saw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6SzZygqS_4

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 15:55 (one month ago) link

No. No.

Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 June 2024 15:56 (one month ago) link

being a metal fan is good. people never really go away. it might take them awhile to make another album, sometimes years, but that's only because so many of those people have day jobs.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 15:59 (one month ago) link

Mission of Burma were incredible live around 2008 or so, I’m not really a fan of their records tho

brimstead, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:01 (one month ago) link

I don’t really like any of the new Slowdive stuff, it sounds differently melodically/harmonically and there’s not enough chorus pedal

brimstead, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:02 (one month ago) link

i listened to that new MBV album once.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:10 (one month ago) link

Now that one was awesome imo

brimstead, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:10 (one month ago) link

for what it's worth, i did enjoy The Friends Of Rachel Worth. i didn't listen to any of the new feelies stuff though. i figure it sounds like the feelies. who i worshipped in the 80s. they still play around here all the time and i never go.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:12 (one month ago) link

to me, that MBV thing sounded like...demos? but maybe i should hear it again.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:12 (one month ago) link

anyway, there ARE exceptions. i have heard latter-day stuff that wasn't bad. but 9 times out of 10 i don't even listen to them.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:13 (one month ago) link

i wouldn't say that i don't care but after lukewarm new records from bands like mazzy star, kitchens of distinction, and jamc, i think a better way of putting it is that i'm not enthusiastic about new material by reconvened/reconciled groups. i still care, i just didn't have the same expectations going into why call it anything that i did going into strange times.

i think there are times when new material after a period of dormancy can be really good and help cement what made them great the first time around. examples for me would be mbv, the feelies, and yeah, even the chams found out a pretty cool path the second time around.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:19 (one month ago) link

and slowdive. pretty much the standard for how to reunite and still be really damn good.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:20 (one month ago) link

maybe i'm just not the best fan either. there are bands who i love and i haven't even listened to all of their albums. i kinda take things as they come. every once in a while i will seek out a discography on Youtube and listen to the albums i haven't heard.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:34 (one month ago) link

and ATCQ. pretty much the standard for how to reunite and still be really damn good.

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:44 (one month ago) link

scott, that's a good point...
listening to as much catalogue music as i do, i've come across bands like this (breakup, long gap, reunite) and i'll just listen straight through.

and yeah, there's always a noticeable downgrade. always.

(subtopic: bands that reunited and were better than the initial run? portishead the only one that comes to mind)

imagine me getting through the dan's catalogue for the first time and going gaucho straight into two against nature. "third world man"->"gaslighting abbie." i knew the context of it, but still if you want to hear some seriously jarring sonic hijinks, try that transition lol.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:47 (one month ago) link

xpost YES PK!

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:48 (one month ago) link

American Music Club made some good records after they reunited. Eitzel had been very active during the 10 year hiatus though.

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:50 (one month ago) link

lol I'm often not even interested in even hearing a band's 3rd album much less their 12th (or their first after a 20-year gap or whatever). But exceptions abound — latter-day Psychedelic Furs and Belly albums weren't great, but they were good and it was nice to hear them again. Live shows are a different thing though. Again, they can be variable, but I've really enjoyed late-career shows by lots of people: Diana Ross, Nile Rodgers, George Clinton, Wanda Jackson, Neil Young, Dylan, lots more. In those shows, of course, the less new material they're playing the better (though there are exceptions to that, too).

Portishead a good exception to this rule, as mentioned above.

Does anyone rate any of the Wire albums after The Drill? I always mean to check them out since Wire were always one of my favorite bands. There just aren't enough hours in the day.

I do think a distinction should be made between reunion tours and reunion albums. I guess I'm far more skeptical of the latter. Jesus Lizard on their reunion tour was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:12 (one month ago) link

Some people love the stuff Wire did when they reformed for the second time but not not so much when they became the Colin Newman Band.

Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:15 (one month ago) link

i saw reunited television and ny dolls just about every time i could with no regrets. television w/o lloyd was a comedown but verlaine had those magic fingers. the johansen/sylvain dynamic was enough to keep that band interesting, plus watching steve conte learn how to handle the thunders spot was also instructive for me and i'm guessing for him.

i've seen a zillion free summer shows with remnants of bands and, i dunno, they're fun. they give you a little window onto greatness. sometimes greatness itself is almost too much for me. i might go see don felder later this summer. in the park.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:18 (one month ago) link

I think it’s true in most cases that what reformations are usually disappointing. Always a pleasure to be proved wrong, last two Arab Strap and EBTG albums are their best imho. New Crowded House album is a lovely, sunshine tinged treat, though maybe it works better when there’s a talented singer songwriter calling the shots.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:29 (one month ago) link

does colin newman ever tour as just colin newman? his five albums from the 80s are some of my favorite albums of that decade. if he ever did a Commercial Suicide In Its Entirety Tour i might even go see it...

haven't heard any nu-wire though.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:51 (one month ago) link

for what it's worth, i did enjoy The Friends Of Rachel Worth.

I was going to mention the Go-Be's when I read your OP.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:54 (one month ago) link

Wire's Read and Burn EPs from the early '00s are first-rate, up there with their best. So is 2011's Red Barked Tree

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 June 2024 17:55 (one month ago) link

does colin newman ever tour as just colin newman? his five albums from the 80s are some of my favorite albums of that decade. if he ever did a Commercial Suicide In Its Entirety Tour i might even go see it...

haven't heard any nu-wire though.

No point, he's in complete control of Wire since Bruce Gilbert left.

Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 June 2024 18:14 (one month ago) link

Loved seeing Wire in their first US tour of the new millennium when they still had Gilbert in the lineup. The albums since are solid, but nothing displaces the 70s-80s Wire in my heart. And yeah, Newman's A-Z is one of my favorite solo albums by any ex-band artist.

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 2 June 2024 18:24 (one month ago) link

Dinosaur Jr has had a very strong reunion. Their 2000s albums are just as good if not better than their 80s 90s stuff.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 2 June 2024 18:58 (one month ago) link

The reunited Hum album was outstanding, a 10 out of 10.

brimstead, Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:03 (one month ago) link

after lukewarm new records from bands like mazzy star, kitchens of distinction

I had no idea there was a new Kitchens album, totally bypassed me. I guess it was 11 years ago.

I like the new Slowdive stuff, it is different but incredibly good, it feels like an evolution

There's really only one legitimate AMC reunion album, the second was called AMC at the insistence of Merge. It's actually the better of the two though.

I think all of the Wire albums are good but it's gotten a bit samey. At least they don't suck.

I don't thin Portishead count; that wasn't really a reunion, I feel like they were just dormant for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if another album showed up in six years.

I think the MBV album is excellent and again, a case of not really reuniting, it's just getting on with the work.

The only band whose reunion work completely turned me off has been the Pixies.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:09 (one month ago) link

oh yeah, reunion Crowded House doesn't do it for me either.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:18 (one month ago) link

I saw a Diodes reunion a few years ago. (You mean you hadn't heard they broke up?) Not good.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:20 (one month ago) link

The only band whose reunion work completely turned me off has been the Pixies.

i don't want to put words into scott's mouth, but pixies are the first thing i thought of when reading the thread title. idk how scott feels about them, but for me, pixies are the quintessential argument against band reunions.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:24 (one month ago) link

I was quite happy to finally see them on that first reunion tour but the albums are honestly not good.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:28 (one month ago) link

I'm a massive Codeine fan and have been very happy that they've reunited twice to go out on tour and just do the old stuff, with no new material. This is how reunions should be done.

I'm also a big Van der Graaf Generator fan and I have to admit that all four of their post-reunion albums have been distinctly lacklustre. Again, I wish they'd reunited just to play the old stuff. But that's not Hammill's way.

bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:29 (one month ago) link

I was definitely like this in my teens/early-mid-20s and then kind of got with the program once ATP starting doing nostalgia stuff. Now I look back and see all that stuff as lost opportunities where I missed seeing a bunch of performers due to my own smugness, most notably James Brown, the Police and Rage Against the Machine,

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:37 (one month ago) link

i was like that too for a while and same as Whiney. like, not all reunions are built alike - Carcass got back together and put out two new classics and I'm so glad for them to be back in my life again. Exhorder, meanwhile, I'm glad to see live, but I really don't like their new output at all.

I don't care about motivations either. I'm about to see a reunited Slayer in October that are purely doing it for the money but they're the reason I'm as into metal as I am, I would literally spend half of my word processing class manually typing up their song lyrics and printing them out just about every day. seen them 16 times, and seems like what will probably be a rare opportunity to see them one last time (for the 17th time). but I don't want them to ever get back together for real and record, because it will suck.

likewise, Satan somehow managed to reunite after decades of being known as the NWOBHM band that put out that one legendary album, a forgettable one, and faded into obscurity, and are now churning out stuff just as good album after album.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:42 (one month ago) link

I saw Wire in 2000-2001 when the Read & Burn EPs were just coming out (you could only buy Read & Burn 02 at the shows) and they were great.

I never saw the point of Steely Dan live, period. Steely Dan were a studio project.

Slayer were incredible live when Lombardo first came back (and I'd seen them with Bostaph just the year before, so I had a clear frame of reference).

I wish I'd gone to see the reunited X with Billy Zoom at some point; I only ever saw them with Tony Gilkyson on guitar.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 2 June 2024 19:56 (one month ago) link

yeah, like i said, metal bands feel different to me. like they can just pick up where they left off and its no big deal. Carcass will always rule and i like the new stuff fine. it's Carcass music!

i have ignored all reunion pixies stuff. i was definitely a big fan.

need to say again, for some reason i have always gotten a big kick out of OTHER people's fandom. i like that they get excited by it. seeing old bands. hearing new material. sheesh, if you are a hardcore punk fan, you can see so many bands from the past on the regular. and i never poo poo on a fan's excitement for someone. i love ned's pictures of old 4AD stalwarts playing live on his FB. i loved all those people too. i just don't need to see them now. for whatever reason. could be freudian. a fear of death. who knows?

there are people who come in the store who NEVER miss seeing Wishbone Ash when they come around! i think its awesome. i know a guy who has seen the Cowboy Junkies 200 times! its cool.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:08 (one month ago) link

"I never saw the point of Steely Dan live, period. Steely Dan were a studio project."

they were good live! like seeing a really good jazz big band. with one hit after another.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:09 (one month ago) link

X's Alphabetland is a great album, straight-up. It's not in the league of the first three, but it's still a great album. Similarly, I hope that The Breeders eventually release a follow-up to All Nerve

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:11 (one month ago) link

I never was very big into blues, but Buddy Guy is out there touring at age 87 and I think he might be the last of the old school big dogs still in the game. And it kind of seems like we should all go see Buddy Guy

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:17 (one month ago) link

The Pop Group were tremendous live in 2015-2016 and the two albums they made then (Citizen Zombie and Honeymoon On Mars) are very good.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:18 (one month ago) link

The Zombies reunion was amazing, one of the best shows I’ve ever seen

The Homosexuals reunion was kinda strange

I didn’t know Wire ever broke up, I thought they just had a resurgence in popularity

Silver Apples’s comeback (just Simeon) was great

Did ESG split up? I saw them in 2014 and it was incredibly good

frociaggine e figaggine (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:34 (one month ago) link

In contrast, I didn’t enjoy Dino Jr.‘s comeback but I don’t think I was a fan to begin with. Pixies reunion wasn’t my bag, idk why, I think Frank Black’s solo material kinda gave away the game or something and the original fascination I had with them was diluted by that. Did not enjoy The Stooges comeback at all

frociaggine e figaggine (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:36 (one month ago) link

Oh, another big comeback for me was Vashti Bunyan. That was great and Lookaftering is great

frociaggine e figaggine (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:37 (one month ago) link

The reunited Hum album was outstanding, a 10 out of 10.

― brimstead, Sunday, June 2, 2024 3:03 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

good call, forgot about that one

and maybe controp but I think Surgical Steel is the second best Carcass album after Heartwork, and it's close

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:37 (one month ago) link

Ugh, so many others too. Liquid Liquid. Young Marble Giants. Great reunions! wish both of them had made some new recordings

frociaggine e figaggine (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:39 (one month ago) link

Silver Apples is still the only non-festival gig my wife has ever been to.

if they do some 6-month Sphere show in Vegas...that would be sad. but i can't see them doing that. i hope they don't do that. they seem like pretty chill retirees.

scott seward, Friday, 14 June 2024 19:09 (four weeks ago) link

they should just do a weekly residency at a bar somewhere

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 14 June 2024 19:13 (four weeks ago) link

Mike Mills is busy playing in the Big Star tribute band

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Friday, 14 June 2024 19:17 (four weeks ago) link

I’m not a fan of rem but I watched the interview and it was like a class on how to say nothing but still answer questions

calstars, Friday, 14 June 2024 19:44 (four weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

_I don’t really get the point of an Oasis reunion (if one likes them): Liam still tours and sings oasis songs (I think !). What would the difference be with Noel playing basic power chords on the side of the stage instead of whoever plays with Liam ?_


presumably you wouldn't have to listen to their awful solo material


I just checked the setlist for one of Liam’s latest shows (June 27th, Manchester) and… it’s all Oasis (+ « I am the walrus »)!

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 29 June 2024 07:10 (one week ago) link

and I read somewhere that Bonehead is in his band (for what that’s worth)

Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Saturday, 29 June 2024 08:04 (one week ago) link

I can't say this is something I am into generally.
Loads of friends lately going to see Codeine, Unwound, all those indie bands. Heck I think somebody posted a clip of the Make Up last night?? For me... why would I want to relive the worst years of my life? In a crowded room? And pay $40 for the pleasure?

I DID see Tom Rapp play at one of the Terrastocks, and that was great and I'm glad I did. Likewise, I would see Michael Chapman play whenever he visited the US, and I'll go see Bridget St. John when she plays. I think these folks, though, they don't really do the whole big "first tour in 30 (50) years!" thing, where such a big deal is being made of it. They're just playing a few gigs.

ian, Saturday, 29 June 2024 22:47 (one week ago) link

Oh, I saw Patty Waters when she played a couple years ago.. does that count?

ian, Saturday, 29 June 2024 22:47 (one week ago) link

when I saw the pretty things (2010ish) one of the cool things about it was that yeah they just felt like a jobbing band - like, sure they had a critical halo but not quite enough to allow them to rest on laurels and phone it in - and I would guess not enough money to take it for granted either - they worked really hard to blow the crowd away

(i know they did “plays album in full” shows etc in other territories but in Australia they just played really killer club shows)

Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Saturday, 29 June 2024 23:52 (one week ago) link

The R.E.M. interview kinda bummed me out, in a way. Their legacy as a band feels "sad" to me. The guys seem (relatively) happy/healthy and on good terms, but they were like former coworkers talking about a job they had for a long time – somewhat fondly, but also without much sentimentality or "pride" (well, more for Michael and Mike maybe). It's hard to explain.

Stockton Asparagus Festival (morrisp), Sunday, 30 June 2024 02:10 (one week ago) link

i think r.e.m. were four very different people and its pretty amazing they lasted as long as they did! and i'm sure they have all kinds of conflicting feelings about their time together. they did it about as good as you can for a band that went from nothing to megastardom. i can't say that i really followed their later years but they never seemed to embarrass themselves too much. i did think stipe was going for jesus-hood at one point a la bono but he seems pretty chill and thoughtful now. their drummer seemed bummed during that interview. i felt bad for him. he's got unresolved stuff. but he can totally afford a great therapist.

scott seward, Sunday, 30 June 2024 02:31 (one week ago) link

i watched this thinking it might be some sort of comeback thing and i would listen to it in honor of this thread but i looked and it turns out they never broke up! who knew?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y04nc_Hy9EY

scott seward, Sunday, 30 June 2024 02:32 (one week ago) link

“Some bands I forget about completely / and one of them is rem”

calstars, Sunday, 30 June 2024 02:34 (one week ago) link

I just checked the setlist for one of Liam’s latest shows (June 27th, Manchester) and… it’s all Oasis (+ « I am the walrus »)!

good value!

for Noel's sets seems halfway in he switches to Oasis material

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 11:14 (one week ago) link

It's been years since I've seen either of them, but I have caught shows by X and the Feelies. However they were both promoting new material which was actually pretty damn good. Other than that, I'm with you. I find nostalgia terribly depressing, but I'm definitely in the minority. Many of my friends keep going to see the English Beat, Squeeze, etc., whenever they get a chance.

TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 12:49 (one week ago) link

both of those bands are really good live. enjoying old music played live isn't depressing. stop thinking that way.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 16:30 (one week ago) link

imagine going to see howlin wolf play spoonful and little red rooster in his later years and proclaiming "this nostalgia is so depressing!"

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 16:31 (one week ago) link

Honest question: isn't it also nostalgia to play old records?

Of course for me neither really qualifies since I wasn't alive first time 'round for most acts I'd be interested in.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 16:33 (one week ago) link

Good point

calstars, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 16:46 (one week ago) link

for me, 'nostalgia' when it comes to live acts, in a pejorative sense, means to me things like the current touring version of the Beach Boys, who are great musicians, perform very well, but are very much not the Beach Boys (just Mike Love, Bruce, some Wondermints, John Stamos, etc), and playing an very safe, 'greatest hits for casuals' playlist. there's nothing wrong with the show, but it feels a bit like what Ricky Nelson sang about in Garden Party.

I don't think it means "merely an older band who is still putting on great live shows."

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 16:47 (one week ago) link

Well could it also be nostalgia for when you first heard the band yourself, and what was going on in your life then, regardless of when the band was active ?

calstars, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:00 (one week ago) link

some Wondermints

citation urgently needed

bae (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:04 (one week ago) link

an very safe, 'greatest hits for casuals' playlist

and tbf to the Mike Love Touring Entity LLC, they play long-ass indoor shows with moderately deep cuts for genuinely nostalgic fans, as well as nothing-but-hits sets at country fairs and festivals and casinos

bae (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:17 (one week ago) link

(just looked at setlist dot - they're covering Rockaway Beach on the current tour!)

bae (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:19 (one week ago) link

xp - per wiki four of them (Wondermints) toured with The Beach Boys on the 50th anniversary tour.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:20 (one week ago) link

it's very interesting how age is perceived in rock music vs. jazz

also ilm has always kinda had this nostalgia is bad thing, i think because by staying current on charlie xcx we can stave off the inevitable slide towards oblivion. i don't see it as good or bad it's a very normal human emotion experienced by everyone, sometimes it's there in your heart and sometimes it's not.

"it's very interesting how age is perceived in rock music vs. jazz"

i explained how i felt on this thead somewhere. i don't treat genre musicians the same as i do rock and pop musicians. country/folk/bluegrass/metal/blues/etc seems like stuff you can do forever. and many do without stopping.

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:39 (one week ago) link

four of them (Wondermints) toured with The Beach Boys on the 50th anniversary tour.

This is because the 50th anniversary tour was Brian's band (plus Mike's then-guitarist/bandleader Scott Totten standing behind him, and drummer John Cowsill - the latter a huge complement). Members of The Wondermints have been the core of Brian's band since 1999, which is a quarter of a century. Five months in 2012 is a) less than that, b) nearly half that time ago, and c) not current.

bae (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:55 (one week ago) link

Sorry, guess I misunderstood your post. I knew they played in his band and were on his version of Smile, but hadn't realized they ever toured with the mothership so was sharing the new to me info.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:58 (one week ago) link

lol Totten and Cowsill both got fired last year. so by that measure, the current touring Beach Boys in entirety is: Mike rasping, Bruce playing a small probably-unplugged Casio, and John Stamos coming out to guest on a few songs, a few times a year.

xp :)

bae (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:01 (one week ago) link

would be kinda cool if they leased the name to a group of beach-y dreamboats who could shred and sing like angels. more people should think of doing things like when they become decrepit.

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:34 (one week ago) link

Honestly, you are onto something there. They should follow the Dead model at this point, start slowly roping in young ringers one by one and fading the old guys out. Might as well ramp up the money printing machine for the next generation, even when no original members are left in a touring state.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:40 (one week ago) link

the anti-nostalgia angle has a twinge of gatekeeping to it that comes off kinda boomer-y...

as kids are taught today: don't yuck people's yum.

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:53 (one week ago) link

i also explained on this thread somewhere that i am totally all for people loving reunions and i love a fan's enthusiasms and love for their faves. i think its cool. and i think old bands should do what they want to do!

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 21:30 (one week ago) link

i'm a fan of fandom. i like watching it from afar. i like movies about it. and i like hearing documentary accounts by fans OF their fandom. its fun and interesting. i don't do any public fan worship. conventions. boat cruises. jukebox musicals. i am a homebody fan.

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 21:32 (one week ago) link

tempted to watch that Nickelback documentary that includes Nickelback talking about all the hate for their band. i think its on Hulu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F__QwEkQeeQ

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 21:36 (one week ago) link

I think all bands should be made to get back together whether they like it or not

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 22:58 (one week ago) link

Went to see Mike's Beach Boys a few years ago and to be honest it was fun x3. Good band, decent setlist choices, and the only hilarity was when they did Summer In Paradise and Mike's ridiculous solo song Pieces Brothers, a tribute to George Harrison. Genuinely funny with great clipart on screen. Also got a handshake off Stamos, despite leaning in to try and get to Mike or Bruce

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 23:01 (one week ago) link

I think all bands should be made to get back together whether they like it or not

Just four convalescents in a rec room

calstars, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 23:43 (one week ago) link

lol why is it ok for metal bands and not rock bands? so it's ok for Judas Priest to still be a band but not ZZ Top?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 01:33 (one week ago) link

I mean...9 times out of 10 nobody wants to see an 'aging band', it's code for one of a few things:

1) "wow, the vocalist really fucking sucks now" - 95% of the time

2) "they are recording new music and playing it, fuck that." - 3% of the time

3) "this is embarrassing, they're playing a tractor pull" - 2% of the time

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#1 is usually my hang-up. I don't expect 70 year old singers to sound like they did in their 20s, just that they sound enjoyable. don't care if they lower keys of songs either (Sabbath did when I saw them). but sounding outright bad, well...that's hard for me to get past.

#2 = ehh, some people want a setlist that matches up with one from 1988. though I can understand it if the entire set is going to be songs you don't know or care for.

#3 = who the fuck cares where they're playing, are you that sad to see your former heroes at a low in popularity and thus dont' want to be seen or associated with their lameness? go out and rock!

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 02:03 (one week ago) link

would totally see ZZ Top tbh.

also the King Crimson show from 2021 was maybe one of my favorite shows of my life.

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 02:11 (one week ago) link

Thought it was funny when Mark Eitzel said his fans are tired of hearing him sing "I've Been A Mess" but he just keeps singing it because he loves to

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 02:27 (one week ago) link

I saw King Crimson in 2017 and they were amazing. The thing is, they really were as anti-nostalgic as it's possible to be. Fripp assembled a new lineup that was nothing like any previous lineup despite featuring former members, and the songs were completely re-arranged for the new band. "Yeah, we're playing that — but it sounds like this now, and if you don't like it, there's the door."

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 02:30 (one week ago) link

lol everyone is such a tough guy, it's ok to just want to see a band do some old songs that meant something to you in a certain time in your life

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 02:53 (one week ago) link

re question upthread about rock vs jazz (and maybe why metal gets a pass) - isn't squeamishness re some ageing rock/pop acts really because those genres (by broad brush definition) are so deeply associated with teenage dreams & preoccupations?

like I know I have a totally indefensible reluctance to watch New Order in 2024 looking like normal sixty-something humans - because I was so in love with their beautiful inscrutable promo pix, and their tunes that somehow seemed to capture how I felt about love and life in my teens and early 20s

Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 03:18 (one week ago) link

king crimson and zz top played for so long by the same people made it folk music. you can play folk music forever.

scott seward, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 05:05 (one week ago) link

I saw Brian Wilson live some years ago and lol upper mississippi OTM as fuck about the inevitable slide towards oblivion thing, his voice was really shot and he was visibly depleted which made me think "wait but I listened to his '03 live album, he was super old then too but in fine form", which lead to me doing the maths on how long ago 2003 was, that Wilson had continued aging since then and so have I and so will I and *existential scream*

the anti-nostalgia angle has a twinge of gatekeeping to it that comes off kinda boomer-y...

Yeah a big part of the kneejerk sentiment comes from my parent's appaled reactions at seeing old names from their youth come back playing the same old songs and looking the worse for wear/like they were doing it for the money. And this is partially why my dad later in life gravitated towards exactly the styles scott lists - bluegrass, country, the blues - because there were previous models for old dudes playing that stuff.

I would have expected old ILX to be more anti nostalgia because the let's-push-things-forward urge for musical trends to advance was much stronger then (tho tbf I still remember many of old ILX's most vocal poptimists drooling over seeing, haha, Brian Wilson live), but right now it feels like that narrative has exhausted itself entirely, ppl either don't believe music will advance anymore or more reasonably they believe that it never really did like people used to assume it did, Charli XCX hardly a new kid on the block now either and I don't really see many posts repping for artists that are.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 10:17 (one week ago) link

I could well have said this upthread and perhaps multiple times.

Booked tickets with a friend to see Tindersticks later this year. "What do you think they'll play?" wondered friend.

Having checked, their last tour was almost entirely their last two albums with a few other songs ... and there seemed something endearing about this even if only a handful of those new songs would be counted as "favourites".

I think they do seem to do "events" that include more old songs (eg. concerts with strings etc).

I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say. I've had wine.

djh, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 21:43 (one week ago) link


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