All hail Kayleigh Rose Amstutz, AKA Chappell Roan

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she's currently on tour promoting her first album. i saw her for the first time at Heaven in London tonite - holy fuck.

started off with an incredible drag performance by inga rock and someone else whose name i didn't catch. chappell apparently always chooses local drag acts for her openers, which is very cool.

her set got off to kind of a rough start (no fault of hers) - for the first couple songs her vocals were mixed really low. also his girl next to me was singing every single lyric, very shrill and out of tune, directly into my ear

then they turned her vocal up and oh my god. she's everything. she's an absolute superstar and i'm so grateful i got to see her before she really takes off. she's an INCREDIBLE singer and has such a fantastic, warm, confident stage presence. she just seemed to be having so much fun and she had incredible chemistry with her band (aubrey on bass and lucy on drums - both were fantastic)

please do yourselves a favour and listen to this piece of pure american pop magic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePsqyPMIg6I

tremolo, Thursday, 7 December 2023 22:18 (seven months ago) link

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Banjo, Thursday, 7 December 2023 23:03 (seven months ago) link

Didnt mean for that to look sarcastic I’m just emphatically agreeing .

Banjo, Thursday, 7 December 2023 23:04 (seven months ago) link

<3

tremolo, Friday, 8 December 2023 12:29 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

i’m gonna keep on dancing at the pink pony club

ivy., Friday, 22 March 2024 01:27 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4WiXKGCJhg

really incredible tiny desk

ivy., Friday, 22 March 2024 01:27 (three months ago) link

That was very nice indeed!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2024 04:30 (three months ago) link

"Casual" and "Coffee" are the ones I keep sending to friends. I've heard this in a few other places, but she seems like a great example of someone who grew up with Max Martin 2000s songs and fully leans into that as well ("H.O.T.T.O.G.O." etc)

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 22 March 2024 04:33 (three months ago) link

Got around to the Tiny Desk this morning, sounds great live without all the layers of the studio versions.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 22 March 2024 16:08 (three months ago) link

knee deep in the passenger seat and you're eating me ouuuuuut

ivy., Friday, 22 March 2024 17:58 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKqOmSkGgM

ivy., Friday, 5 April 2024 17:47 (three months ago) link

pink pony club is an earworm

c u (crüt), Friday, 5 April 2024 17:49 (three months ago) link

Coachella set happening at the moment, the audience is crazy and knows every word:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13QtsdFLVG4

paisley got boring (Eazy), Saturday, 13 April 2024 00:38 (two months ago) link

Really a fantastic set, and I think it wasn’t a mixing/editing thing but the audience really was so intensely connected to the music. She did great.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Saturday, 13 April 2024 02:15 (two months ago) link

I saw her live this past Monday in KC, and the entire audience was exactly like that, intensely singing every word, even for the new song that came out just a few days before. Plus they were dressed in some variation of pink cowboy gear (like, 90% of the crowd was in pink cowboy gear, we didn't get the memo). It sold out one venue, got moved to a larger venue, and sold it out. If that's happening across the country - which I imagine is the case - she's truly on the rise. And deservedly so...

erasingclouds, Saturday, 13 April 2024 03:24 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Seems like she just keeps building momentum, just based on from friends and others discovering her in the past months + hearing her in coffee shops all the time.

Thinking how part of the fun of this phenomenon is that the album has been out a long time, so individual songs don't feel like singles but instead have equal presence out there.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Saturday, 18 May 2024 20:28 (one month ago) link

She's good but I gotta say, I started listening to this, listened to it a lot for two weeks, then ran out of interest in it and haven't listened to it since. But it's good! Just... not with staying power for me.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 18 May 2024 20:32 (one month ago) link

Went to see Katie Pruitt last week and she did an acoustic cover of "Casual" that successfully lodged that tune in my head for three days straight.

Indexed, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 20:00 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

similar to when this was happening with “espresso,” i think when a song/artist experiences a lot of growth in a short amount of time, spotify is set up to assume this will be of interest to most of their users and therefore it gets recommended liberally https://t.co/76GxtcpWo0 pic.twitter.com/qyRApPrukf

— jaime brooks ☭ (@elite_gz) June 7, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 17 June 2024 15:05 (three weeks ago) link

lots of requests for chappell roan at the gay bar lately so i hear

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 17 June 2024 16:17 (three weeks ago) link

people who use spotify live inside a little spotify created bubble that the rest of us exist outside of, and it distorts their understanding of the world around them. imo

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 June 2024 17:17 (three weeks ago) link

i for one am shocked that spotify is recommending sabrina carpenter and chappell roan to listeners who enjoy pop music

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 June 2024 20:33 (three weeks ago) link

xpost 100%. for an increasing number of people, there is basically no music outside Spotify, imo.

which sucks real bad.

alpine static, Monday, 17 June 2024 21:06 (three weeks ago) link

"good luck, babe" is the first thing from her that isn't really annoying

ufo, Monday, 17 June 2024 22:19 (three weeks ago) link

I think people habitually underestimate the power of social media when discussing these phenomena. If you move in any kind of sub-50-yr-old queer-ish circles online it is basically impossible to avoid suffocation under an avalanche of Chappell Roan references. This seemed to start about a month ago.

It's difficult to untangle cause and effect here - did Spotify's algorithmic amplification effect precede or follow the above? Almost certainly they feed on each other. But in an era when traditional music journalism manages less than ever, I think a lot of the void that has left has been filled by people deciding what to check out because of the "conversations" they see happening around them online and a desire to be able to at least understand if not join in.

In this specific case an Australian parody IG page modelled on the Onion published a story a few days ago which both reflects the above and ironically adds to it: "Local Lesbian Has Her Subaru Keys Revoked After Revealing She Doesn't Know Who Chappell Roan Is".

Tim F, Monday, 17 June 2024 23:14 (three weeks ago) link

*In an era when traditional music journalism matters less than ever

Tim F, Monday, 17 June 2024 23:15 (three weeks ago) link

I would argue that social media and especially vertical content platforms (tiktok, reels) are driving what new acts and artists are breaking now. Spotify is definitely the tail of the dog at this point. Labels compete in digital marketing on those platforms, playlisting is kind of cheugy when you're talking about discovering new acts, lol

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 17 June 2024 23:30 (three weeks ago) link

In this specific case an Australian parody IG page modelled on the Onion published a story a few days ago which both reflects the above and ironically adds to it: "Local Lesbian Has Her Subaru Keys Revoked After Revealing She Doesn't Know Who Chappell Roan Is".

Meanwhile, Hard Times (the punk-rock Onion) just did "Man To Be Honored at GLAAD Awards for Giving Bisexual Girlfriend a Ride to Chappell Roan Concert."

jaymc, Saturday, 22 June 2024 20:53 (two weeks ago) link

When Azealia's right...

I dunno, i feel like lots of female artists really wanna do this weird Lolita shit well into their 50/s and she sings like a WOMAN. That’s what i appreciate the most. The truth and reality in her neeeeeed to express. And how cathartic it is.

— Azealia Banks (@CHEAPYXOMIAMI) June 22, 2024

paisley got boring (Eazy), Sunday, 23 June 2024 20:11 (two weeks ago) link

I saw buzz about the album somewhere or other late last year, listened to it and liked it a lot (still do). I was surprised at the time that there wasn't MORE buzz about her, because she seemed pretty buzzable. I think festival season was primed for her, she'd built up a good following and she rocked those shows. Her Bonnaroo set got moved up to the 2nd-biggest stage, probably on the basis of the Coachella buzz plus whatever LiveNation was gleaning from users on the festival app. As with anyone who blows up, I don't think it's any one thing pushing her, it's mostly that she made a good pop album that is in line with the tastes of the moment — smile, Dan Nigro! — and she's spent the last year building audiences on the road. Opening for Olivia Rodrigo no doubt helped.

But yeah, I did just see a Facebook friend in her 40s asking "who the hell is Chappell Roan and am I a bad lesbian for not knowing?"

She's insanely charismatic and her songs are brilliant. Feels like the most deserving Huge Popstar Blowup in a long time.

triggercut, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 13:27 (two weeks ago) link

Her NPR Tiny Desk was my first exposure to her, it’s an incredible performance and I immediately understood why she was a star. Listening to the album after was slightly disappointing - I mean the songs are great, but something about the production didn’t quite click for me. “Good luck, babe!” is excellent though

Roz, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 13:41 (two weeks ago) link

My wife is a very casual music fan in general, but recently she's been getting kind of obsessed with individual artists, and Chappell Roan is the latest.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 13:59 (two weeks ago) link

(Before that, it was Taylor.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 14:02 (two weeks ago) link

She talked about this when she was on Fallon, but it's pretty funny that some fan inside Google made it do this in the "Did you mean" line.

https://i.imgur.com/gts393u.png

"some random twink that works at Google" as she put it lol

triggercut, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 14:30 (two weeks ago) link

I haven't paid attention to any pop for the last 20 years, but recently became a taylor swift fan. Then I randomly heard good luck babe and thought it was phenomenal, the album ain't half bad either.

ledge, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 17:09 (two weeks ago) link

"Good Luck Babe" doesn't have the same kind of charisma as the best tracks on the album in my view

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 17:59 (two weeks ago) link

"Good Luck Babe" is quite the earworm, caught me more than "Red Wine Supernova" (which was also good). I should check out the album

Vinnie, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 15:04 (two weeks ago) link

maybe 200 20-somethings at the gay bar singing "good luck babe" at the top of their lungs last saturday night.

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 1 July 2024 15:19 (one week ago) link

I'm genuinely surprised y'all embrace her! She's fine. I'm figuring out what about her voice bothers me.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 July 2024 15:20 (one week ago) link

Current 20-somethings were pre-teens when Katy Perry's singles were omnipresent. I feel like Roan's big numbers play into that nostalgia while making the lyrics young-and-single-adult. The album deepens from there with "Coffee" and other non-anthems.

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Monday, 1 July 2024 15:31 (one week ago) link

oh my god lol. how can i even describe it. i feel like you either hear it or you don't. there's a sour confidence that offsets the purest of feeling. there's a yelpiness and then grade-a organic midwestern honey. her tone when she's at her most direct, yearning and heartfelt just melts my armor away. carly rae jepsen would kill for this kind of voice. that probably does a disservice to crj. i just mean that crj, her thing, it could have been huge if she had this kind of voice.

there's also an incredibly refreshing honesty in the drive of her heart through the lyrics. (is she writing these songs or does she have help, i genuinely don't know?). like, she isn't dumb, but she knows what she wants and it's l o v e. worldliness is a part of that but it isn't all of it. uncompromising. the feeling when all these kids are singing along to it warms my heart. it's a wholesome moment. you either feel it or you're soulless (j/k ;)).

xp as far as i can tell, at least from the 3 big songs, there's something less cookie cutter about her "american girl" persona than perry. she's like "american girl" post billie eilish or something. the american girl persona just feels more natural somehow. i hope she doesn't succumb to being another katy perry, that would suck.

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 1 July 2024 15:37 (one week ago) link

oh, she's more convincing than Perry.

Thanks, map. I'll give the album another try. I do hear the worldliness.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 July 2024 15:39 (one week ago) link

tbh i didn't really get what the fuss was all about until i heard all of those kids singing it.

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 1 July 2024 15:42 (one week ago) link

i feel like there's also a kind of "fartiness" to the production on the songs, like a brown plastic sound (sorry for the gross metaphor), it seems to communicate that she doesn't want to be seen that she takes herself too seriously. i noticed the same style in the sabrina carpenter songs.

he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 1 July 2024 15:45 (one week ago) link

I don't know if this holds water, but thinking again of 20-somethings growing up on Kidz Bop versions of pop songs, with their chintzier production, and playing a bit into that nostalgia (unbridled kid-like singalongs, but also as Azaelia said, songs about being a woman, not a girl).

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Monday, 1 July 2024 15:53 (one week ago) link

Oh, well if there's a fartiness to this, I guess I'll go check it out.

alpine static, Monday, 1 July 2024 18:02 (one week ago) link

Chappell Roan is expected to chart five singles on this week’s Billboard Hot 100 (dated July 6th, 2024), all at new peaks:

#11. (+5) Good Luck, Babe!
#38. (+17) Hot To Go!
#46. (+8) Red Wine Supernova
#66. (+24) Pink Pony Club
#83. (NEW) Casual pic.twitter.com/70qmjvBafv

— Talk of the Charts (@talkofthecharts) June 30, 2024

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 1 July 2024 18:10 (one week ago) link

The production is the only weak point to me, tho its datedness makes it feel kind of relatably affordable or something… the Midwest adopting like an old idea of mainstreamed indie, idk. But she’s a huge talent / persona / force of nature, her star& vision makes the production feel like it’s struggling keep up with her like she just wills these aspiring 2008 Robyn sounds into good-enough canvasses …. Imho

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 1 July 2024 19:48 (one week ago) link

(is she writing these songs or does she have help, i genuinely don't know?)

Album was produced and mostly co-written by Dan Nigro, who performed same duties on Olivia Rodrigo's albums. (And has written with/produced assorted others.)

maybe robyn with the house/dance elements removed? i don’t really hear robyn otherwise, she would never be caught dead using the cheerleader gang vocals that pop up throughout “red wine supernova,” for example. it feels like teenage dream-era katy perry but with smarter lyrics and supreme vocal control

i agree that the production is the weak point, but i appreciate that she doesn’t go fully into camp or 80s nostalgia (“hot to go” and its clear toni basil inspo, notwithstanding). it’s a tricky balance because these songs are clearly massive and arena-ready, but until “good luck babe,” the production has kind of been…humble?

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 1 July 2024 21:15 (one week ago) link

I guess I hear katy Perry on “red wine supernova” but her three biggest records (“good luck babe” “hot to go” “pink pony club”) all feel like late aughts indie efforts at 80s pastiche. Like bat for lashes era shit. “Pink pony club” is very fake Kate bush right, but also kind of “modern” in an mgmt era sense (Which is kind of what I mean about the production feeling more slight than the songwriting and performances).

The album itself has production that’s also kind of all over the place imo like you can id different pop referents but to me the albums spirit is just not something I locate in the production which feels kind of “servicey”

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 1 July 2024 22:53 (one week ago) link

TS: "Pink Pony Club" vs. New Young Pony Club

jaymc, Monday, 1 July 2024 23:08 (one week ago) link

What immediately came to mind for me was Marina and the Diamonds circa Electra Heart; there's also a theatre-kid quality to what she's doing that scanned more like... Born This Way Gaga than Katy Perry to me. But to be honest I only gave the album a couple of plays when it came out last September, took "Super Graphic..." and ran, so I'd have to revisit it to see if that opinion still holds.

monotony, Monday, 1 July 2024 23:20 (one week ago) link

By Robyn I’m thinking of “dancing on my own” era more than “honey” era

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 1 July 2024 23:58 (one week ago) link

She sounds exactly what I would imagine Katy Perry to sound like if she was a member of Gen Z.

The singles are pretty irresistible!

alpine static, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 01:02 (one week ago) link

"Casual" is killer. No wonder Katie Pruitt covers it.

alpine static, Wednesday, 3 July 2024 01:02 (one week ago) link

katy perry if she could sing and had good songs

ivy., Wednesday, 3 July 2024 01:27 (one week ago) link

"Casual" is also a perfect song if you don't really need a new Taylor Swift song but you don't want to give up that kind of pop.

I thought of Katy Perry in part because I remember hanging out with some friends and their five-year-old daughter in 2010, and the kid sang the "Hot N Cold" chorus nonstop and loved Gaga's "Bad Romance" too; and now that kid is 19 and at Berkeley, and I imagine Roan hitting that balance between nostalgia for being five and being a young woman in college.

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 01:41 (one week ago) link

i like your kidz bop theory btw.. that's kinda what the production reminds me of most.

he/him hoo-hah (map), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 02:06 (one week ago) link

bat for lashes era shit

you have a weird sense for what Bat for Lashes sounds like

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 4 July 2024 01:19 (one week ago) link

anyway I tried the album and liked it slightly more than my first attempt to listen to her which, it turns out, was HOT TO GO which I still think is terrible. But the new single is better than anything i heard on the album. I could really do without those horrible cheerleader bvox, it reminds me of the worst parts of Born to Die and Electrheart.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 4 July 2024 01:59 (one week ago) link

when i first heard her i admired her lyrical candor, how she included things in her songs other artists would be too embarrassed or self-conscious to, and in that respect she brought to mind early kesha for me

ivy., Thursday, 4 July 2024 02:08 (one week ago) link

I could really do without those horrible cheerleader bvox

otm

ufo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 02:13 (one week ago) link

you have a weird sense for what Bat for Lashes sounds like

he's right about the late 00s indie pastiching the 80s bit, just not the bat for lashes reference in particular

ufo, Thursday, 4 July 2024 02:14 (one week ago) link

this thread clearly wants her to be less annoying i see but i dont because she’s having fun and that makes me have fun

ivy., Thursday, 4 July 2024 02:16 (one week ago) link

i think Good Luck Babe is super fun and I enjoy it. I heard it on the radio (in Mexico City) for the first time this week and had to shazam it which is what led me to giving her a second listen.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 4 July 2024 02:17 (one week ago) link

i think Good Luck Babe is super fun and I enjoy it. I heard it on the radio (in Mexico City) for the first time this week and had to shazam it which is what led me to giving her a second listen.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, July 3, 2024 9:17 PM

The melodic ascension into the chorus is some serious Robyn/Max Martin "music = math" rowdiness, but the real triumph is the bridge, with those "Call Me Maybe" strings, the extra bite she adds to the vocal before winding it down, then screaming at us like Ani in "The Million You Never Made" as it literally goes off the rails, like when my 3rd-grade neighbor's battery-operated ladybug record player died before finishing side 2 of Pat Benatar's "Crimes of Passion"

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Thursday, 4 July 2024 03:37 (one week ago) link

*applause*

he/him hoo-hah (map), Thursday, 4 July 2024 16:38 (one week ago) link

BABY DO YOU LIKE THIS BEAT?????
I MADE IT SO YOU’D SLEEP WITH MEEEE

ivy., Thursday, 4 July 2024 18:23 (one week ago) link

he's right about the late 00s indie pastiching the 80s bit, just not the bat for lashes reference in particular

― ufo, Wednesday, July 3, 2024 9:14 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Im thinking of “Daniel” specifically, that sounds exactly like the sound I mean

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 4 July 2024 19:04 (one week ago) link

will preface this by saying I’m completely out of the market these days for teen pop or whatever you might call this, but my fiancée was playing some of her songs in the car the other day and when “pink pony club” came on I had to be like — wait, who is THIS? incredible track, makes me hopeful that there are other artists out there doing kate bush pastiche after that brief buzz “stranger things” seemed to have augured

about halfway through the rest of her stuff and while it’s fine it’s nothing special, as others have mentioned kind of a gen Z theater kid coded katy perry or gaga, not terribly dissimilar to what taylor swift seems to be going for these days I guess

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 5 July 2024 17:43 (one week ago) link

"Pink Pony Club" achieves what "Florida!!!" was aiming for.

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Friday, 5 July 2024 17:49 (one week ago) link

yeah I like PPC too, I thought it was going to be massively annoying based on the title alone but it isn't at all. I like the video too.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 5 July 2024 18:10 (one week ago) link

i am hosting a chappell roan night next saturday

he/him hoo-hah (map), Friday, 5 July 2024 18:12 (one week ago) link

Is it at a club? I've been seeing those types of nights popping up all over in the past few weeks.

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Friday, 5 July 2024 18:13 (one week ago) link

yeah

he/him hoo-hah (map), Saturday, 6 July 2024 00:46 (six days ago) link

OK this is embarrassing but I'm just gonna say it -- I listened to the album a lot in the runup to seeing her open for Olivia Rodrigo, really liked the songs, really liked her set, but had no idea there was anything queer about her or her music until she started blowing up about a month later

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 6 July 2024 01:34 (six days ago) link

Like that half of her songs are about girl-girl sex?

I could see missing it really. I first read about her as a “lesbian pop princess” or something, so she arrived pre-queer-coded for me.

I knew the songs were about sex, I just didn't register anything about the gender of the other person or people involved!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 6 July 2024 01:56 (six days ago) link

album was introduced to me as a sort-of concept album about giving up on dating straight men and entering one’s gay era and it is one of the reasons i ended up loving her music a lot yes

ivy., Saturday, 6 July 2024 04:56 (six days ago) link

same for me, eephus. when she's singing to the other party "you" gives nothing away. probably there are other lyrical clues certainly good luck babe is obvious in hindsight but even then I thought with the "you" she was referring to herself.

ledge, Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:54 (six days ago) link

it's fine not to pay too much attention to lyrics but yeah they're pretty explicit! have a read at "Naked In Manhattan".

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:59 (six days ago) link

I'm not sure "Red Wine Supernova" or "Super Graphic Ultra Modern Girl" could be more obvious lol

Number None, Saturday, 6 July 2024 17:02 (six days ago) link

well, yeah.

ledge, Saturday, 6 July 2024 17:15 (six days ago) link

Yeah I'm notorious for missing the meaning of lyrics but "Red Wine Supernova" basically screams its meaning

Vinnie, Saturday, 6 July 2024 17:18 (six days ago) link

finally listened to the whole thing lol. i think it's very good, a few more forgettable tracks but some of the slow songs are among the best ("kaleidoscope," which looks like a sole amstutz credit.)

he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 16:23 (three days ago) link

sole amstutz writing credit tbc

he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 16:24 (three days ago) link

sole amstutz writing credit

Title for the belabored sophomore follow-up

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 17:50 (three days ago) link


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