From the REM thread:
Anyway Re Nightswimming can I just say that I feel like there is a dearth of dope-ass oboe solos?
Sure, Mozart and Correlli wrote some sick AF oboe riffs, but for pop/rock/indie/alt music, you get... "Nightswimming." "Crazy for You." What else?
(And before anybody says "Life in a Northern Town," pretty sure that is a cor anglais, fool.)
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, November 17, 2023 9:00 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
"Twist in My Sobriety"
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, November 17, 2023 9:03 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oh -- I thought it was a clarinet or oboe xpost
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, November 17, 2023 9:22 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I can’t think of any really. There’s an oboe moment on Siberry’s “Temple” (performed by Eno, apparently) but it’s kinda buried and I always wondered if it was real or synth
― as a lyricist he is from hell (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, November 17, 2023 9:36 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
there's a bunch of go-betweens songs with oboe aren't there?
― ufo, Friday, November 17, 2023 9:53 AM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oboe's? 'Fallen Angel' by King Crimson springs to mind and er.... 'War Dance' by XTC lol
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Friday, November 17, 2023 9:56 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Go-Betweens employed an oboe.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, November 17, 2023 10:03 AM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
War Dance is a synth clarinet or rather what Andy calls a "singing penis"
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, November 17, 2023 10:09 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Apparently "I Got You Babe" has oboe. I thought it was a clarinet. I am learning things today
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, November 17, 2023 10:18 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I wanted to make a Pere Ubu joke here but decided not to
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, November 17, 2023 10:20 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
everyone knows the best oboe song is "ladytron" by roxy music
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, November 17, 2023 10:35 AM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglin
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2023 15:53 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-tiCXIkGLA
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 November 2023 15:54 (two weeks ago) link
RFI. I have a bunch of Go-Betweens records and I know there is oboe but which tracks should I go to for complete, straight-fire oboe shredding?
Also the two best oboe-related movies are "Enchanted April," (where the owner of the castle plays the oboe) and "Amadeus," where Salieri describes the intro of Serenade #10:
The beginning simple, almost comic. Just a pulse, bassoons and basset horns, like a rusty squeezebox. Then suddenly; high above it, an oboe, a single note, hanging there unwavering, till a clarinet took over and sweetened it into a phrase of such delight... This was a music I’d never heard. Filled with such longing, such unfulfillable longing. It seemed to me that I was hearing the very voice of God.
As far as I know, no one has ever set an oboe on fire at a music festival. But there is still time.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:02 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBDe9BGNBnM
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:02 (two weeks ago) link
"dive for your memory" has some good oboe
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:04 (two weeks ago) link
My Go-Be's oboe jam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlgHlXixiKs
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:05 (two weeks ago) link
Roxy Music rules this category imho
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:07 (two weeks ago) link
Roxy Music Third Ear Band rules this category imho
― Deflatormouse, Friday, 17 November 2023 16:09 (two weeks ago) link
oh yes, I stand corrected!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKBuKcDPjzM
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:09 (two weeks ago) link
^ love that one
Kevin Ayers' Joy of a Toy has some rockin' dual oboe interplay, notably on Town Feeling.
Wonder if David Bedford, the arranger, the whole ren fair idea from Giant Sun Trolley (early incarnation of Third Ear Band who played UFO and other venues with the Softs)
― Deflatormouse, Friday, 17 November 2023 16:12 (two weeks ago) link
Side one of Hergest Ridge by Mike Oldfield.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 17 November 2023 16:16 (two weeks ago) link
Many thanks, Alfred and sleeve and co. Synthy New Wave with oboe is apparently something my life was missing, which I didn't know I was missing.
BTW some songs (like "Some Distant Memory") are in a fairly low register that overlaps with bassoon or even like a bass clarinet or recorder. And then you hear things like "Life in a Northern Town" where it's in a register where any number of instruments could reach, but the timbre is particular.
I am not aware of anyone doing extreme badass stuff like playing an oboe behind their head, putting it through a big honking pedalboard, or smashing their oboe on stage after a particularly bitchin solo.
I just feel like this is an instrument that has sometimes been overlooked, like viola.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:25 (two weeks ago) link
Some Distant Memory is all time - plan-my-own-funeral music
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:26 (two weeks ago) link
other great roxy music oboe tracks that aren't "ladytron" (the objective best one)"out of the blue" (my fav roxy track, probably, but not as good an oboe jam as "ladytron")"casanova""serenade""strictly confidential""sea breezes"
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:27 (two weeks ago) link
lol my violin-trained ex-gf had lots of brutal orchestra kid jokes abt violas and viola players
I have only ever seen one band with a bassoon, Chotchke
https://i.discogs.com/7jRcE-8ol-q9BBkqMdnL-lcv0RhNLPjAJbQLZCZGv70/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:598/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTIxNDk4/NzctMTYxMjkwMDI2/My00OTI4LmpwZWc.jpeg
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:28 (two weeks ago) link
Yeah, baad.
Slightly off topic (but tangentially related because this originated from an REM thread), my wife says her funeral should feature "Find the River."
I don't have any plan to die soon but "Nightswimming" might be on the list.
On that cheerful note...
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:34 (two weeks ago) link
Ladytron is cool, no notes
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:38 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcPQ9ZS3U9g
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Friday, 17 November 2023 17:06 (two weeks ago) link
This is my favorite song right now (because reasons) and yeah it is mostly piano and vocal, but I think there is oboe that fucking brings it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTdQRtU5O_I
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2023 18:09 (two weeks ago) link
70s British rock/prog group Henry Cow had a full-time oboist/bassoonist, Lindsay Cooper. She was featured on a lot of their stuff but believe this is one of her better known compositions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WSzIbUi7dA
― Indexed, Friday, 17 November 2023 19:30 (two weeks ago) link
some of that early cardigans stuff had so much faith in its oboe usage that they put it in the video-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxdJqncir4Y
cardigans - "sick and tired" (1994)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Friday, 17 November 2023 19:50 (two weeks ago) link
absolutely the best song ever and anthem for agoraphobes everywhere...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl4OtSjTyNUStrawberry Switchblade - Trees and Flowers
oboe by kate st john who was also in Dream Academy ('Life In A Northern Town etc')
― blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 17 November 2023 19:54 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQqqnawSp0sDorothy Ashby - For Some We Loved
― blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 17 November 2023 19:58 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKoT6sjesaQAnthony More - The Only Choice
― blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 17 November 2023 19:59 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrH7_qAeA8USwans - In My Garden
― blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 17 November 2023 20:00 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSw_OsADM1YJapan - Night Porter
― blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 17 November 2023 20:02 (two weeks ago) link
actually i posted the wrong Swans track because i'm an idiot and forgot it was actually a flute. this is the the one with Lindsay Cooper on it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46mymWlByiMSwans - Trust Me
― blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 17 November 2023 20:15 (two weeks ago) link
oh china crisis had lots of these didn't they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGYvNL0v40China Crisis - Tragedy & Mystery
― blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 17 November 2023 20:33 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVOxCqaHwRs
― buzza, Saturday, 18 November 2023 09:55 (one week ago) link
It's not a 'jam' but Cliff Richard's masterpiece When Two Worlds Drift Apart has this reaelly glacial, symphonic structure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO3cOZv2xw4
The arrangement is constantly shifting and twice it allows room for some unexpected, momentary, very gorgeous oboe bits (at 2:31 and 3:41)
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 18 November 2023 13:28 (one week ago) link
I recall a friend learning in some music composition class that the oboe is one of the easier sounds to program in a synthesizer. Synth oboe and oboe samples pop up a lot in early synth songs, like "Your Silent Face" (obv. not the melodica part) and "Everything Counts" (supposedly a sample of an oboe precursor called a shawm).
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 November 2023 14:35 (one week ago) link
True, as it's generally a very pure tone with comparative few overtones.
That's why everybody tunes to the oboe, traditionally.
I think Fairlights came with a cor anglais patch. Emulators definitely came with a cor anglais sample.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 November 2023 16:02 (one week ago) link
Timely!
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/11/20/secrets-of-the-east-german-oboe-underground
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 November 2023 17:12 (one week ago) link
The oboe (and French horn) are next-level difficult instruments to master. I oftentimes just “pass” on giving an oboe player anything substantial (if I even employ one at all) because the chances of hiring a bum player are that much more likely
The most underrated orchestral instrument is bassoon, it’s easily my favourite woodwind, lots of great players out there too
― meaner stinks meat bake it cone (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 18 November 2023 17:12 (one week ago) link
Bass recorder sounds very similar to the bassoon and is, I suspect, easier.
For years I played in a weird jazz band with a guy (college roommate, best frenemy) who could just pick up any instrument and start playing.
He had a range of recorders, from sopranonina to bass recorder. Plus clarinet and flute and bagpipes and harmonicas and slide whistle and... just whatever he happened to grab. Sometimes, people would say that he could have been a virtuoso if he'd just picked something and stuck with it - but he wasn't wired that way. He preferred being a dilettante. His influence rubbed off on me because I'm the same way about 8-stringed instruments.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 November 2023 17:19 (one week ago) link
Fgti I also played in a space rock project with a really supple French Horn pkayer. I loved every moment, but it was weirdly hard to get him to play it. Partly because we didn't really know how to write horn parts, and partly because I think he was shy about bringing it out in a rock context.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 November 2023 17:26 (one week ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTVrfQPGPA4
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 18 November 2023 18:51 (one week ago) link
marshall allen also plays the oboe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLVA8vdFaKU
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 18 November 2023 18:59 (one week ago) link
I was hoping it was an oboe in the baroque-ish instrumental break in the disco classic “Let’s All Chant” by Michael Zager Band, but apparently that is a clarinet.
― Josefa, Saturday, 18 November 2023 19:04 (one week ago) link
playing an oboe behind their head
I'd like to see this.
Meanwhile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHutZXREZ0E
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 November 2023 19:09 (one week ago) link
To be clear, I started this thread jonesin' for oboe but I do not object to shawm, cor anglais, krummhorn, clarinet, etc.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 November 2023 20:48 (one week ago) link
Bernard Sumner sure loved his oboe jams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0diKUGcWkw
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 November 2023 22:00 (one week ago) link
How did we forget this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42lfnZ66jAoJackie Mittoo - Oboe
― blazin' squab (NickB), Saturday, 18 November 2023 23:16 (one week ago) link
Wire, "A Mutual Friend" (cor anglais jam)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya6yJKUPZSQ
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 November 2023 00:29 (one week ago) link
Popol Vuh, "Engel der Luft" (et al) (oboe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhYY2LI1LMQ
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 November 2023 00:38 (one week ago) link
Between. "Listen to the Light" (et al) (oboe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HH7iqlo87c
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 November 2023 00:41 (one week ago) link
Surprised no-one has mentioned "Superstar" by the Carpenters yet.
I do not object to shawm, cor anglais, krummhorn, clarinet, etc.
If you're looking for rocking krummhorn, search no further than Red Queen to Gryphon Three by Gryphon.
I have to say that to me clarinet is a Different Thing than the oboe family, emotionally and texturally. Maybe it's double-reed versus single-reed.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 19 November 2023 01:53 (one week ago) link
^^ yes that was my thought, which ones mentioned here are actually double reed?
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 19 November 2023 01:53 (one week ago) link
"Let's All Chant" @1:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmzxG9kdZhM
― Josefa, Sunday, 19 November 2023 02:48 (one week ago) link
out of the eight albums on bandcamp tagged "shawm" this one is my favorite
https://ramblerecords.bandcamp.com/track/burnt-offerings
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 19 November 2023 04:46 (one week ago) link
rocking krummhorn
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 November 2023 05:17 (one week ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cESSh-SqU
― buzza, Sunday, 19 November 2023 10:14 (one week ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beB6L3HUwVc
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 November 2023 12:02 (one week ago) link
Oboe, cor anglais and bassoon are double reed; clarinet family and Sax family are single reed The Kate St. John bits on Julian Cope’s Fried are absolutely wonderful
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 19 November 2023 14:39 (one week ago) link
(Recorders and flutes are zero reed obv)
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 19 November 2023 14:41 (one week ago) link
The Velvet Underground was single-Reed.
Because Lou Reed.
(Never mind, I will show myself out now.)
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 November 2023 17:11 (one week ago) link
Living Colour? Single Reid.
Okay, shutting up now for real.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 November 2023 17:16 (one week ago) link
JAMC double Reid.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 November 2023 19:45 (one week ago) link
The new Bjork track out today reminded me that there is a lot of oboe on Bjork's latest album Fossora. This is my favorite track, the closer -- one of my favorites of hers in years. The climax at 3:55 has a swelling oboe part that pairs beautifully with the vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H0ZCmthKVE
― Indexed, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:50 (one week ago) link
Not exactly oboe but a double-reed: https://canary-records.bandcamp.com/album/duduk-solos
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:36 (one week ago) link
o hai
Catherine Christer Hennix
― Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 21:28 (one week ago) link
honkin' on oboe
― Honkin’ on Cobo (jamescobo), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 23:54 (one week ago) link