POLL Miner's Daughter - ILM Artists Poll #117 - Women of Country Music - Results Thread

And that's a wrap. Thanks again to all who voted! I know we only had 17 ballots, but I am quite proud of the results and think they're mighty fine. Someone with a blind spot here would do well to start with these artists, albums, and tracks.

If you'd like to see the full list of artists, albums, and tracks that received votes, I've further built out the google doc linked to in the first post.

You can find it here.

On the artists tab, you'll note four new columns of data that show the total count of distinct albums and tracks that received votes, and the total count of votes, that each artist received. This includes a tally for each member of a group.

If anyone would like their ballot retrieved, please let me know.

Thanks following along!

Oh and here's an imgur post with all the images from the rollout: https://imgur.com/a/zNskqsU

Thank for running this Indexed! The results are a good mix of classic, contemporary and alt.

Agreed, it's been a delight. I wish I had voted.

Thanks, Indexed. These results are fair, and they reflect a decent 21st century perspective on these artists and this work.

Two weeks ago I thought Dolly would be #1 and she was. I thought "Jolene" would win and it did. Was there a decent amount of respect for relative newcomers like Ms. Musgraves? There was. Did legendary performers get recognized? They did. How about comparatively quirky alt-songstresses? Yep.

The real winners were the friends we made on the journey.

"Independence Day" is as ringing as "Kerosene." It's not Martina McBride's fault that she never topped it.

Back in 2005 I made a mix CD for various friends and relations. First track was "Independence Day." Second was "Kerosene." I called the CD "Love Goes To Building On Fire."

Throw in "Before He Cheats" for more property damage

Here are my fairly hive-mindy ballots, all three mixed, bold dnp:

--Artists--
Miranda Lambert
Emmylou Harris
Patsy Cline
The Chicks
Dolly Parton
Loretta Lynn
The Carter Family
Kacey Musgraves
Taylor Swift
Neko Case
Iris DeMent
Kathleen Edwards
Alison Krauss
Patty Griffin

Linda Ronstadt
Lori McKenna
Lucinda Williams
Lee Ann Womack
Wanda Jackson
k.d. lang
Tammy Wynette
Gillian Welch
Lone Justice
The Judds
Kasey Chambers
Shania Twain
Natalie Hemby
Kelly Willis
Rosanne Cash
Ashley Monroe

--Albums--
Miranda Lambert - Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
The (Dixie) Chicks - Fly
Emmylou Harris - Roses in the Snow
Patty Griffin - Living With Ghosts
Kacey Musgraves - Golden Hour

Linda Ronstadt - Heart Like A Wheel
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Miranda Lambert - Kerosene
Lee Ann Womack - The Way I'm Livin'
Tanya Tucker - Would You Lay With Me
Iris DeMent - Infamous Angel
Loretta Lynn - Writes 'Em and 'Sings Em
Pistol Annies - Hell On Heels
Dolly Parton - Coat of Many Colors
Patsy Cline - Showcase
Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris, Linda Ronstadt - Trio
Kathleen Edwards - Asking for Flowers
Roseanne Cash - King's Record Shop
Emmylou Harris - Quarter Moon in a Ten Cent Town
Cam - Untamed
Taylor Swift - Fearless
Ashley Monroe - Like a Rose
k.d. lang - Shadowland
Patty Loveless - Mountain Soul
Freakwater - Springtime
The Judds - Why Not Me
The Chicks - Wide Open Spaces
Maren Morris - Hero
Lone Justice - Lone Justice
Neko Case - Fox Confessor Brings the Flood

--Tracks--
Kacey Musgraves - Merry Go 'Round
Lone Justice - Ways to Be Wicked
Iris DeMent - Let The Mystery Be
Linda Ronstadt - Willin'
Emmylou Harris - Easy from Now On
Kathleen Edwards - Six O'Clock News
Sara Evans - Suds in the Bucket
Emily Scott Robinson - The Dress
The Judds - Why Not Me
Gillian Welch & Alison Krauss - I'll Fly Away
The Chicks - Goodbye Earl

Loretta Lynn - You Ain't Woman Enough
Dolly Parton - Mule Skinner Blues (Blue Yodel No. 8)
Kate Wolf - Across the Great Divide
Dolly Parton - I Will Always Love You
Skeeter Davis - The End of the World
Jo Dee Messina - I'm Alright
Mary Ford & Les Paul - How High the Moon
Trisha Yearwood - She's in Love with the Boy
LeAnn Rimes - Blue
Patsy Cline - Walkin' After Midnight
Jill Andrews - These Words
Neko Case - Deep Red Bells
Patty Loveless - Blame It On Your Heart
Katie Pruitt - Expectations
Martina McBride - Independence Day
Patsy Cline - Crazy
Ashley McBryde - Girl Goin' Nowhere
Tanya Tucker - Delta Dawn
Tammy Wynette - Stand By Your Man

thanks so much for running this poll, Indexed - this was great

also kudos for being the other vote for "Blame It On Your Heart." what a tune!

thanks indexed, this was fun, lots of stuff i loved and plenty that i can check out as well!

certainly can't complain about Jolene winning!

Didn't vote, mainly because of ignorance, but really enjoyed the rollout. Got more from the lower reaches to be honest - some of the more traditional country stuff is a step too far for me for whatever reason. Maybe it'll click next time.

I hear you, Chinaski. I tend to have e.g. Kitty Wells and Wanda Jackson in my head as influences, not as daily listening fodder.

Definitely more likely to put on Margo Price or Honeycutters than, say, Bobbie Gentry.

I will never not love Patsy, though. She has my entire heart. One rainy night in Richmond, Virginia in 1991 I was sad because of a minor romantic setback, and I stopped into a convenience store to get some beer (underage). The clerk had Patsy's greatest hits on the PA system, and I ended up staying for five songs. I went up to the clerk and said, "thanks, man," pointing up at the speakers.

The guy nodded with full understanding and said, "Patsy. She'll tell ya all ya need to know."

I think about that a lot.

No kidding, crut, how did "Blame It On Your Heart" not get more love?

Agreed on Patsy, Puffin. Like Dolly, she seems to transcend somehow.

Indeed. I drive through Winchester a couple times a year and everybody in the car knows what I'm going to say.

I turn around and say, "Hey, did you kno-

"Yeah, DAD, we KNOW. Patsy Cline was from here." Audible eyerolls.

Sometimes I mix things up and pretend that I was actually going to say something about the tomb of Lord Fairfax, or George Washington's surveying office.

A high point of my musical career was playing a gig at Smoketown Brewing in Brunswick, Maryland purely because Patsy performed there when it was a firehouse.

I followed this with great interest even though I wasn't able to pull together a ballot in time. If I'd have voted "I Was Country if Country Wasn't Cool" by Barbara Mandrell would have been high on my ballot as would have some song or other by Sara Evans and an album or two by Mary Chapin Carpenter. Otherwise the consensus was pretty darn good.

Updated the tracks playlist. Thanks Indexed for running this poll! And thanks for publishing the list of all the nominated tracks—eventually I’ll make that playlist too as I’m sure there’s much to discover

huge thanks to indexed +all. i did not vote and kept my mouth shut. digging into playlists/picks now.

pgwp— i would be glad to help with that but don't want to overstep any bounds. i know nothing about this music, but i'm good at spotify and feel like i owe something back to everyone. let me know.

or wait— isn't that what this is?

in any case, now or in the future: if anyone wants help compiling these sorts of playlists please let me know i'm glad to help.

thanks again, all!

thank you Indexed and other participants! excellent poll already has had me discovering artists and records i love and was unfamiliar with. can tell will be in this rabbit whole for some time.

I was 17 when Strawberry Wine came out

But nowadays:

The fields have grown over now
Years since they've seen the plow
There's nothing time hasn't touched
Is it really him or the loss of my innocence?
I've been missing so much

Ooh yeah.

I did my ballot in chronological order of recording, not nec. release date (exception is the Canciones Deluxe 2022 at the end, because "Logo Azul" is an add to the vision). To save slots, I've listed Pistol Annies rather than Annies' solo sets, likewise w Lynne & Moorer's duet set, also double-live Chicks is their most expansive comp up to that point (2003), and so on. Just the albums I actually remember, with a balance of those that deserve more exposure, and the better-known artists/albums that I just couldn't resist. Here 'tis:

1.Hazel Dickens & Alice Gerrard: Sing Me Back Home: The DC Tapes 1965-1969

2.Linda Martell: Color Me Country

3.Lone Justice: This Is Lone Justice: The Vaught Tapes 1983

4.Trailer Bride: Whine De Lune

5.The Mollys: Hat Trick

6..Gillian Welch: Boots No. 2: The Lost Songs Vol, 1-3

7.The Chicks: Top Of The World Tour Live

8..Terri Clark: Greatest Hits 1994-2004

9..Freakwater: Thinking Of You

10..Jessi Colter: Out Of The Ashes

11.Lydia Loveless: The Only Man

12.Pistol Annies: Hell On Heels

13.Wanda Jackson: The Party Ain’t Over

14.Iris DeMent: Sing The Delta

15.Carlene Carter: Carter Girl

16.The Delines: Colfax

17.Maren Morris: Hero

18.Whitney Rose: Rule 62

19.Shelby Lynne & Allison Moorer: Not Dark Yet

20.Elizabeth Cook: Aftermath

21.Ashley McBryde: Never Will

22.Gretchen Peters: The Night You Wrote That Song: The Songs Of Mickey Newbury

23.Lainey Wilson: Sayin’ What I’m Thinkin’

24.Mickey Guyton: Remember her Name

25.Morgan Wade: Reckless Deluxe

26. Melissa Carper: Daddy’s Country Gold

27.Ingrid Andress: Good Person

28.Linda Ronstadt: Canciones De Mi Padre

29..Brennen Leigh: Obsessed With The West

30. Pillbox Patti: Florida

Dammit, Deluxe didn't make it through the paste on 28. sorry.
Frank Kogan asked me what 16. was, and I answered:

Delines on Colfax Avenue: seedy lowkey glory, cruising through another day and night in old bad-cough Nashville, Birmingham, Chicago, wherever, not nec cruising in the sexual-to-romantic sense, though that does happen, but also looking for work, for a wayward family member, also going to work, or a date: my central Scene ballot comment had to do with Piper Laurie and Paul Newman, "two lucky pennies," across from each other in a booth, backlit by gray sunlight of the diner window, before things go more sideways in The Hustler.

This was my ballot (tracks, weighted, best first). I've added links where I thought they'd be useful.

Skeeter Davis - The End Of The World
Bobbie Gentry - Ode To Billy Joe
LeAnn Rimes - Blue
The Carter Family - Wildwood Flower
Terri Gibbs - Somebody's Knockin'
Dolly Parton - Down From Dover
Miranda Lambert - Kerosene
Coon Creek Girls - Pretty Polly
Haley Georgia - Becky
Reba McEntire - Fancy
Ashley Monroe - Siren
Faith Hill - One
Taylor Swift - You're Not Sorry
Taylor Swift - Should've Said No
Bonnie Guitar - Grey Rain Years
Sarah Buxton - Stupid Boy
The Chicks - Goodbye Earl
The Collins Kids - Shortnin' Bread Rock
Sunny Sweeney - From A Table Away
Loretta Lynn - Saint To A Sinner
Tammy Wynette - D-I-V-O-R-C-E
Cassadee Pope - Wasting All These Tears
Deveigh Chase - The Happiest Girl In The Whole U.S.A.
Norma Jean - The Gambler And The Lady
Patsy Cline - She's Got You
Jan Howard - Bad Seed
Carrie Underwood - Before He Cheats
Kacey Musgraves - Blowin' Smoke
Martina McBride - Independence Day
Sara Evans - Suds In The Bucket

My ballot, all categories, weighted:

Dolly Parton
Emmylou Harris
Kathleen Edwards
Neko Case
Gillian Welch
Patsy Cline
Tammy Wynette
Ashley Monroe
Kacey Musgraves
Angaleena Presley
Pistol Annies
Rhiannon Giddens
Kitty Wells
Lilly Hiatt
Bobbie Gentry
Maren Morris
Amanda Shires
Freakwater
Lee Ann Womack
Miranda Lambert
Alison Krauss
Jessi Colter
Lydia Loveless
Whitney Rose
Brennen Leigh
Jean Shepherd
Dottie West
Sunny Sweeney
Billie Jo Spears
Lynn Anderson

Ashley Monroe - Like a Rose
Neko Case - Blacklisted
Kacey Musgraves - Golden Hour
Freakwater - Old Paint
Rhiannon Giddens - Freedom Highway
Kathleen Edwards - Asking For Flowers
Maren Morris - Hero
Gillian Welch - Time (The Revelator)
Emmylou Harris - The Ballad of Sally Rose
Emmylou Harris/Dolly Parton/Linda Ronstadt - Trio
Pistol Annies - Hell on Heels
Miranda Lambert - Platinum
Dolly Parton - Little Sparrow
Angaleena Presley - American Middle Class
Neko Case - Furnace Room Lullaby
Neko Case - The Tigers Have Spoken
Whitney Rose - Route 62
Emmylou Harris - Live at the Ryman
Ashley Monroe - The Blade
Lydia Loveless - Real
Lilly Hiatt - Walking Proof
Emmylou Harris - Roses In the Snow
Amanda Shires - Take It Like a Man
The Highwomen- The Highwomen
Neko Case - Fox Confessor Brings the Flood
Angaleena Presley - Wrangled
Emmylou Harris - Luxury Liner
Brennen Leigh - Obsessed With the West
Miranda Lambert - Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Lee Ann Womack - The Way I’m Livin’

Kathleen Edwards - In State
Ashley Monroe - The Morning After
Catherine Irwin - Hex
Kacey Musgraves - Golden Hour
Patsy Cline - Back in Baby’s Arms
Kathleen Edwards - Hard on Everyone
Whitney Rose - Wake Me In Wyoming
Kathleen Edwards - I Make the Dough, You Get the Glory
Connie Smith - Once a Day
Freakwater - Gone to Stay
Neko Case - I Missed the Point
Angaleena Presley - Dry County Blues
Maren Morris - My Church
Tammy Wynette - Crying Steel Guitar
Caitlyn Smith - I Can’t
Miranda Lambert - Famous in a Small Town
Nikki Lane - Jackpot
Esther Phillips - Release Me
Rhiannon Giddens - At the Purchaser’s Option
Skeeter Davis - Walk Softly Darling
Kitty Wells - Paying for That Back Street Affair
Sara Evans - Suds in the Bucket
Emmylou Harris - Timberline
Ashley Monroe - I’m Good at Leavin’
Michaela Anne - By Our Design
Linda Martell - I Almost Called Your Name
Jean Shepherd - You Win Again
Dottie West - In Its Own Little Way
Lynn Anderson - A Million Shades of Blue
Amanda Shires - Lonely at Night

Honestly really love those 3 Kathleen edwards tracks so much any single one of them could have been my number one. 3 vv different songs, on another day I might have preferred the sardonic humor of “I make the dough…” or driving unstoppable but heartbreaking power of “hard on everyone” over the righteously pissed “in state”

Hey Don, did you know I live 2¾ blocks south of Colfax Ave.? Several miles east of the Lions Lair, but the character of the street's the same. 've known people with brother-father-daughter-etc. like the character's in the song.

I bought myself a couple of country records yesterday for $2 apiece: Rosanne Cash’s Somewhere in the Stars (after I’d mentioned it in the bargain bin thread!) and Reba’s Whoever’s In New England. The former isn’t quite on par w Seven Year Ache but it’s excellent, the latter is just about as good as Reba can get. which is to say, incredible.

JUST ANNOUNCED: singer Patty Loveless (@theploveless), songwriter Bob McDill, and singer Tanya Tucker (@tanyatucker) are joining the Country Music Hall of Fame.

Congratulations to the new members-elect.#HonorThyMusic pic.twitter.com/yEySeojErr

— Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum (@countrymusichof) April 3, 2023

Congrats to our #13 and #18 artists, who somehow weren't already in the CMHOF?

Excerpt from Natalie Weiner's ACM recap:

The winningest song of the evening was a nearly note-for-note remake of Jo Dee Messina’s “Heads Carolina, Tails California.” It’s not enough for the majority of the songs on country radio to sound similar. Now we’re claiming that there was not a better song in the past year in country music than a toothless rehashing of a nearly 30-year-old single (I’m pro- cover song and pro-answer song, but you’ve gotta give it a little more of a spin than just adding “She had me at!”). At least Jo Dee was there to bask in the afterglow, since her original version didn’t win a single award when it was released in 1996.

You can’t make this stuff up. The only glimpse of relevancy the show offered was the crowning of Lainey Wilson as the new woman country star to beat (we’re only allowed one at a time, remember) — an achievement that I wish could have come closer to when I called it back in 2019 (see 52:50), instead of after she (correctly, smartly and well) established a “bell-bottom country” brand that happens to be contingent on her flaunting her impressive posterior in latex pants. It worked, Lainey Wilson is quite good and fun, all’s well that ends well I suppose!

snagged a copy of Patty Loveless' Mountain Soul in the discount bin, damn what an album.

Somebody was asking about Lone Justice, our crossover stars on here, and the answer was start w the s/t '83 debut, surely true, but also I'll take everything they did in their lifetime, overproduced in that Big 80s way though some of it is, while remaining grateful for the discreetly tweaked, relatively more modern sounding posthumous comps This World Is Not My Home andUltimate Collection.
Omnivore has since come up with some red hots:

Lone Justice — Live At The Palomino, 1983
Lone Justice - The Western Tapes, 1983
Lone Justice - This Is Lone Justice: The Vaught Tapes, 1983

I wasn't aware of Lainey Wilson, but now this song is stuck in my head:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Rq1kz5Emc

Yeah, that's a real good album too, also previous Sayin' What I'm Thinkin'.

No kidding, crut, how did "Blame It On Your Heart" not get more love?

― Indexed, Friday, March 24, 2023 4:26 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Happy Birthday!

https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/30-years-ago-patty-loveless-takes-crazy-long-chorus-to-1/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rq-1VeiDw8