I'd be here for hyperpop Swift tbh
― The Ghost Club, Monday, 29 August 2022 04:39 (one year ago) link
in that vein if she happened to be working with bj burton (who co-produced one track on evermore) that'd be about as exciting as possible
― ufo, Monday, 29 August 2022 04:39 (one year ago) link
you guys it's an aesthetic fakeout and she's going full country again
― Murgatroid, Monday, 29 August 2022 04:41 (one year ago) link
Two months is a long wait. Maybe we'll get new albums from Sky Ferreira and MBV before then.
― The Ghost Club, Monday, 29 August 2022 04:51 (one year ago) link
poor CRJ, gotta share a release date with the pop juggernaut
― Murgatroid, Monday, 29 August 2022 04:52 (one year ago) link
Are Taylor semioticians catching any clues from the promo photo? (e.g., the odds and ends on the desk)
― Porcine-lina of the Pig Oceans (morrisp), Monday, 29 August 2022 04:55 (one year ago) link
This longer description makes it sound VERY dark / confessional:
Midnights, the stories of 13 sleepless nights scattered throughout my life, will be out October 21. Meet me at midnight.Pre-order now: https://t.co/jjqUNkphuG pic.twitter.com/Fh96zK8vro— Taylor Swift (@taylorswift13) August 29, 2022
― Tim F, Monday, 29 August 2022 04:57 (one year ago) link
The longer description is in one of the pics in the tweet
Like I said on twitter, I absolutely LOVE the concept she's developed for this album. What a rich place to take inspiration from. However, I expect I still won't like it very much because of the way she writes lyrics and melodies. ¯\(ツ)/¯
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 August 2022 04:59 (one year ago) link
Oh, she actually announced the album at the end of her VMA speech! I totally missed that, lol
During her acceptance speech for video of the year at the #VMAs, Taylor Swift announces a new album out October 21. https://t.co/K3f4GrgiuJ pic.twitter.com/9q2jGVDoPl— Variety (@Variety) August 29, 2022
― Porcine-lina of the Pig Oceans (morrisp), Monday, 29 August 2022 05:02 (one year ago) link
― Murgatroid
Midnights, The Loneliest Time. Some kind of zeitgeist perhaps?
― The Ghost Club, Monday, 29 August 2022 05:04 (one year ago) link
Exciting news
― Bee OK, Monday, 29 August 2022 05:22 (one year ago) link
glad she's putting out new music - when she announced she was re-recording her old albums, I was a bit worried that it would occupy all her time and we wouldn't get any new material from her for awhile but clearly my worries were unfounded
I guess she just lives in recording studios now
― Murgatroid, Monday, 29 August 2022 05:35 (one year ago) link
i'm not really sure what's happening with the remakes because she already put out a few tracks from 1989, i would have thought she'd want to get them out quicker idk
― ufo, Monday, 29 August 2022 05:51 (one year ago) link
Carly Rae Jepsen, Arctic Monkeys and this all on the same day, going to be a good day to be alive
― Bee OK, Monday, 29 August 2022 05:59 (one year ago) link
Huh, didn't even know Arctic Monkeys were still around.
I'll check out Taylor and CRJ but will def skip AM.
― The Ghost Club, Monday, 29 August 2022 06:05 (one year ago) link
I looked it up. Tegan and Sara and Dry Cleaning too
― Bee OK, Monday, 29 August 2022 06:05 (one year ago) link
Huh, didn't even know Arctic Monkeys were still around
They're better than ever
― Bee OK, Monday, 29 August 2022 06:06 (one year ago) link
I’m trying to imagine what this will sound like based off the destruction/album cover and the first band that comes to mind is Chromatics. Like I can’t picture this being a full blown pop return but I can’t imagine it being very guitar based?
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 29 August 2022 06:22 (one year ago) link
Is it confirmed those track titles will be renamed? Because that would be cool if they were all just named “Track One,” Track Two” etc
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 29 August 2022 06:23 (one year ago) link
Yeah my probably way-off-base prediction is that this could be a good opportunity to be explore a more moody noir version of the synth pop ballad vibes Taylor explored on stuff like “You Are In Love” and “Delicate” and the live version of “Love Story” she was performing on the 1989 tour.
I also thought “Renegade” was excellent and that that and “Long Story Short” suggested a pathway for merging the directions taken on the last two albums with a more propulsion pop sound - almost both tunes are very upbeat in presentation, which may not be the vibe she goes for here.
― Tim F, Monday, 29 August 2022 06:58 (one year ago) link
*albeit both tunes…
― Tim F, Monday, 29 August 2022 06:59 (one year ago) link
reading tea leaves here but getting “false god”: thealbum from the cover
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 29 August 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link
no complaints if we get an album of sophisti-taylor
― ufo, Monday, 29 August 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link
i just hope she hasn't like, been listening to the weeknd too much or something lol
― ufo, Monday, 29 August 2022 13:06 (one year ago) link
"all too well (10 minute version)" did have a bunch of tasteful sax in the background, if we get a vibe anything like that i'll be quite happy
― ufo, Monday, 29 August 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
any word on whether Dessner is involved again?
― akm, Monday, 29 August 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link
No word on collaborators so far.
― abcfsk, Monday, 29 August 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link
I get late 90s indie vibes from the album cover. Not that I necessarily think this is going to be Taylor's Modest Mouse album or whatever.
― peace, man, Monday, 29 August 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link
Analyzing the cover art reminds me of the (traumatic) whiplash that was "Lover" cover reveal -> "ME!" released as lead single
― abcfsk, Monday, 29 August 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link
Ha ha. Yeah, ouch, important warning. Anyway, I think what I was thinking was that it might fit in The Great Millennial Colour Drought
― peace, man, Monday, 29 August 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link
"... and when I'm up all night, I call Max and say, 'Let's make a banger about how boys are poopyheads!'"
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 29 August 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link
"me!" came before the album cover, iirc the whiplash was just from the teasers for it?
― ufo, Monday, 29 August 2022 14:01 (one year ago) link
I don’t predict anything like synthpop, but we’ll see…
― Porcine-lina of the Pig Oceans (morrisp), Monday, 29 August 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link
Yeah the whiplash came from the various teaser images on Instagram and the mural that was painted to promote the release of "Me!", which all happened in April 2019. It wasn't till June that she announced the album Lover, its August release date and shared its cover art, and then a day later released "You Need to Calm Down".
― MarkoP, Monday, 29 August 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
Carly Rae Jepsen, Arctic Monkeys and this all on the same day, going to be a good day to be alive― Bee OK, Monday, August 29, 2022 1:59 AM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglinkHuh, didn't even know Arctic Monkeys were still around.I'll check out Taylor and CRJ but will def skip AM.― The Ghost Club, Monday, August 29, 2022 2:05 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglinkI looked it up. Tegan and Sara and Dry Cleaning too― Bee OK, Monday, August 29, 2022 2:05 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Bee OK, Monday, August 29, 2022 1:59 AM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― The Ghost Club, Monday, August 29, 2022 2:05 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Bee OK, Monday, August 29, 2022 2:05 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
What is this Meghan Trainor erasure?
― peace, man, Monday, 29 August 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link
Ok I was mistaking cover art for teaser images - regardless I remember similar Lana del Rey-vibes being predicted before ME! destroyed such notion.
Though the album itself did strike various poses
― abcfsk, Monday, 29 August 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link
I got a “Taylor Nation” email promoting the pre-orders, complete with flickering flame and new “TS” monogram in the blue Helvetica.
― Porcine-lina of the Pig Oceans (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link
"a journey through terrors and sweet dreams" sounds like its describing a david lynch movie imo
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link
hear me out, what if this is her house album like Drake and Beyonce
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link
Seems pretty unlikely to me, given the midcentury aesthetic of the photos
― Porcine-lina of the Pig Oceans (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link
If folklore is for everyone who needs to go to therapy and evermore is everyone who is finally going to therapy then midnights is for everyone still going to therapy even when it feels like it isn't helping— Rita (@ritalara) August 29, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
"Is it confirmed those track titles will be renamed? Because that would be cool if they were all just named “Track One,” Track Two” etc"
It's unlikely, but I hope she goes full-on Scott Walker circa Climate of Hunter and writes a song suite about kicking locusts in the bollocks. Or something. With half the tracks given names and the other half given numbers.
And if you compare the covers they both look as if there was originally a cigarette, but it was airbrushed out. I want to hear Taylor Swift punching meat.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link
"Babe, I just can't seeif you're the one for mewill it all work out?Or will we kick locusts in the bollocks untilthe black-blood spittlefills the sliced eye-holesof the fetid pig mulch"
― Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link
This is her 5th "Lead single in August, album in October."
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link
Guessing she purposely sticks with this schedule because the grammys new years day is Sept 1.
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link
she released a single? where?
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link
Yeah, you had me looking!
(I believe the Grammy eligibility period ends Sept. 30 – so Midnights won't be eligible until the 2024 awards, but if she releases a single in the next month I guess that will be eligible at next Feb.'s ceremony)
― Porcine-lina of the Pig Oceans (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link
Oh my bad I didn't pay attention to whether a new song came out.
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link
whereas if most of the songs on midnights develop at all, i'm not aware of it
― ivy., Saturday, 21 October 2023 16:13 (six months ago) link
What does it mean that the sheet music isn't much help or that there's not much to teach?
Just because, as you said, they're no less complex than most pop music, so you don't really need a piano book or teacher at all, you just need to know those handful of chords and you're more or less all set. You don't really need either for, say, the Ramones, either. But books and lessons are for sure more helpful for, I dunno, the Beatles, or the Stones, or ABBA or whatever, which can be more complex or involved without going full Joni.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 October 2023 16:26 (six months ago) link
ivy OTM
― strawberry ice cream, one scoop or two (morrisp), Saturday, 21 October 2023 16:28 (six months ago) link
also
If you want to learn how to play a Swift song, you learn the 3-5 chords you need and the order they go in, just as you would if you were playing something by Bob Dylan or Phoebe Bridgers or Olivia Rodrigo.
or bruce springsteen!!!
― ivy., Saturday, 21 October 2023 18:19 (six months ago) link
i've probably brought him up as a point of comparison before but that's the main guy i think of in terms of being able to spin new songs out of the same old chord progressions
― ivy., Saturday, 21 October 2023 18:21 (six months ago) link
i'm not surprised a taylor swift piano book doesn't have much chordal intrigue bc i can't think of a single song of hers that's anchored by a sick piano part, the ones that come to mind are "cardigan," "exile," and "champagne problems," all of which do not seem complex at all, though "exile" sounds fun to play, idk
― ivy., Saturday, 21 October 2023 18:39 (six months ago) link
Yeah I was thinking the same thing (and wondered if it’s disfavored for being a duet).
― strawberry ice cream, one scoop or two (morrisp), Saturday, 21 October 2023 18:51 (six months ago) link
Now Springsteen, there's a piano book for you. The guitar is the easy part!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 October 2023 19:08 (six months ago) link
My fav quote from a one man show I saw once
"What's wrong with G? Just play G! If your chord has a number in it, you're an asshole!"
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 October 2023 19:09 (six months ago) link
Ha. I think I saw somebody joke once that nothing good ever happened above the 7th fret. Might have just been talking about bass, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 October 2023 19:17 (six months ago) link
Gotcha. I play piano but am mostly self-taught and rarely do much more than plunk out chords and melodies. I can play melodies by ear, so I usually just need to figure out or track daown chord progressions, and then I can play something that's sort of rudimentary but nonetheless satisfying to me. So I forget that people use sheet music for more than just fake-book chord symbols.
― jaymc, Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:12 (six months ago) link
lol I was just listening to LP5 by Autechre, and my daughter came in and asked what year the track was from. I said 1998, why? And she said it reminded her of "Midnights." And ... I didn't know what to say.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:50 (six months ago) link
Xp “going full Joni”
Once you learn the open tunings Joni uses, the songs aren’t too hard to play on guitar.
― bbq, Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:53 (six months ago) link
But there are like 30 tunings, right?I've often wondered about people trying to play Stones songs in the '70s, not knowing they're often open G, sometimes with a capo, too. Once you know, the songs aren't that bad, but you need to know!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 October 2023 22:10 (six months ago) link
Joni puts the number at 51.
― bbq, Saturday, 21 October 2023 22:22 (six months ago) link
High enough to play a dumbass looking guitar synth.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 October 2023 22:39 (six months ago) link
I’ve already seen kids dressed as S/T, Red, and Midnights (…and trick-or-treating hasn’t even officially started yet).
― Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 01:00 (six months ago) link
I saw a Speak Now purple dress/hat and multiple Red costumes (block letter tees w/black hats). What other musicians have recently inspired Halloween costumes?
― Indexed, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 13:47 (six months ago) link
Too cold out for someone dressing like a lot of other pop stars, lol ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 13:57 (six months ago) link
Put on a cardigan
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:20 (six months ago) link
xxpost https://www.vogue.com/article/doja-cat-transformation-halloween
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:21 (six months ago) link
omg. Also, this is wild!
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/meet-the-argentine-taylor-swift-fans-who-have-been-camping-out-for-the-eras-tour-since-june/
― Indexed, Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:11 (six months ago) link
you know it smell crazy in there, etc.
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 2 November 2023 16:18 (six months ago) link
Was listening to the Wedding Present and it struck me how funny it would have been had Taylor Swift not collaborated with Aaron Dessner but with David Gedge. And then I kept thinking of other people she could collaborate with, from Johnny Marr to Dave Mustaine, and I found it really amusing. For about two minutes.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 November 2023 23:15 (six months ago) link
There should be a general Taylor Swift thread. But anyway, this is very important:
Gannett’s Taylor Swift Reporter, Revealed: Meet Bryan West, the First Full-Time Swiftie Journalist (EXCLUSIVE) https://t.co/tRxld7ySjs via @variety— Nick Penzenstadler (@npenzenstadler) November 6, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 14:26 (five months ago) link
How many days until a Swiftie murders this guy?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 6 November 2023 15:27 (five months ago) link
https://apnews.com/article/taylor-swift-rio-fan-dies-water-b69ad355301a7ae6edebd3255c94a167
― fpsa, Saturday, 18 November 2023 15:45 (five months ago) link
Taylor's instagram post says the fan died before the show, which is untrue (maybe she didn't have all the info when she wrote it)
― fpsa, Saturday, 18 November 2023 15:47 (five months ago) link
and people are asking for the 2nd concert to be postponed, as today has also a huge heatwave affecting temperatures in Rio, higher than yesterday even
https://gshow.globo.com/tudo-mais/pop/noticia/fas-pedem-adiamento-do-segundo-dia-de-show-da-taylor-swift-no-rio-de-janeiro.ghtml
― fpsa, Saturday, 18 November 2023 15:49 (five months ago) link
Swift is handling the tragedy right. And Christ the Redeemer is wearing a Swift shirt for charity.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 November 2023 01:05 (five months ago) link
"Cristo Redentor (Taylor's Version)"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 November 2023 01:27 (five months ago) link
She wears short skirts, I wear T-shirtsShe's Cheer Captain, and I'm the Redeemer
― low-sorbitol frootloop (morrisp), Sunday, 19 November 2023 01:41 (five months ago) link
"You're Losing Me" is a pretty good song; probably better than anything else on Midnights. But it still has that dull, flat sound and vocal affectations (which I don't care for) that are typical of the album...
― This field is required (morrisp), Friday, 1 December 2023 17:14 (five months ago) link
chubble chubble chubble
― maelin, Friday, 8 December 2023 21:18 (four months ago) link
'state of grace' is such an incredible opener, honestly. discovered the acoustic version this week. those bass notes, god damn.
― maelin, Friday, 8 December 2023 21:19 (four months ago) link