"Sally Go 'Round the Roses," by The Jaynetts

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaBq6elSTwU
Hadn’t realized that it was mostly all Artie Butler on this record. Also forgot about Lucy Sante making it the centerpiece in a recent book.

https://lucsante.com/e-s-p/

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:01 (three weeks ago) link

I love me some creepy r & b.

I Met Mr. Mathis (I M Losted), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:08 (three weeks ago) link

It's like some predecessor to "T.V.O.D."

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:11 (three weeks ago) link

I love "Sally Go Round the Roses." My dad used to put it on mixtapes when I was a kid, so as with most things you just grow up with, it took me a while to notice how odd it is.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:20 (three weeks ago) link

The whole Jaynetts album is good. It prompted me to look into this Harlem thing.

I Met Mr. Mathis (I M Losted), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:30 (three weeks ago) link

I first heard it as a cover by Anny Celsi. It's a trippy little song, proto-psychedelic.

Of course, Grace took the "proto" out of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NSy4i-5Qxw

I love me some creepy r & b.

Perhaps a dedicated thread is in order? Unless one already exists…

vmajestic, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 18:14 (three weeks ago) link

I would love that!! I keep digging and digging trying to make a playlist.

I Met Mr. Mathis (I M Losted), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 18:24 (three weeks ago) link

Don’t like that Jefferson Airplane version as much as I was hoping.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:11 (three weeks ago) link

I played all the instruments except the guitar. First I played the piano. Then I added the drums. When I added the bass, I borrowed the secretary’s lipstick and marked the locations of the notes I needed on the upright bass.. since I did not play bass at all. Then I played the B3 organ and tambourine

Upright bass? What is the prominent electric bass-sounding lick then? Baritone guitar or something?

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:14 (three weeks ago) link

Organ? Really sound like an electric bass to me.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:15 (three weeks ago) link

this is one of my favorite songs!

budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:18 (three weeks ago) link

Pentangle play the lick on an upright bass. Maybe on the original it was an upright with some kind of special pickup.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:19 (three weeks ago) link

Jefferson Airplane version

it's akchoo-ly The Great Society (just FYI)

slide into my KMFDMs (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:18 (three weeks ago) link

Oh right, thanks.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 03:42 (two weeks ago) link

I will work on a creepy / spooky oldies list over the next few days.

There are also any number of tracks from the "Dusties" (mid 60s-early 70s) period that fit this bill.

The oldies station I used to listen to used to loosen up on Sunday nights and play weirder oldies, so every Sunday I take a few hours to listen to a pile of oldies...I'll go through my stuff and start a running thread.

I Met Mr. Mathis (I M Losted), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 04:35 (two weeks ago) link

Super classic song... I got into it as a teen through the Best of Chess Rock & Roll comp, which my dad owned on cassette.

Its placement there as the last track, walled off from all the rockin' tunes by "Rinky Dink," heightened the feeling of strangeness that suffuses the recording. Wherever they're trying to keep Sally from going, it's a lot chancier than wherever the couple putting on high heel sneakers was going... Maybe close to the alley down which Bo Diddley's ice-wagon flew. (It was much later that I realized the huge time spans covered by Chess's comps.)

The secret ingredient is surely the long decay on the backing vocals - "another girlllllllll" dissolving into a cloud of spooky nighttime fog. It's like they were going for the Wall of Sound, but it was 4 a.m. and most of the orchestra had gone home. Wonderful sound.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 11:52 (two weeks ago) link

I heard it was Andy Warhol's favourite song.
Do love that Great Society version and that lp. I like their other release, How It Was a little less so but is still pretty good. The 2 are combined on the Live At The Matrix lp. There is another live set but I think it hasa lot more David Minor on so less room for Darby or Grace.
Darby Slick is one of my fav guitarists on the strength of that set though. Shame there is little else by them around. & Darby took off to India after Grace left for the Airplane. So the SF scene was down one distinctive guitarist who i assume would have just continued to improve. oh well whatifs etc.

Tim Buckley reworked the song almost entirely. Pentangle did it good, not sure what other versions I've heard.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 12:59 (two weeks ago) link

Richie Unterberger confirms that Warhol liked the song but where is the original quote or source that this was Andy’s “favorite”?

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 06:46 (two weeks ago) link

There is this from Warhol's memoir of the '60s POPism where he's describing a drive across the country to LA in October of 1963:

The radio was on the whole time - full blast. As a matter of fact, I was the one who insisted on blasting it because I get very nervous about people falling asleep at the wheel. You sure get to know the Top Forty when you make a long trip like that - over and over again, the same songs: Lesley Gore, the Ronettes, the Jaynettes, Garnet Mims and the Enchanters, the Miracles, Bobby Vinton...

Josefa, Friday, 29 July 2022 07:39 (two weeks ago) link

I'm not sure of source could be one of several I read over the last few decades.
Do remember reading it though.

Stevolende, Friday, 29 July 2022 08:44 (two weeks ago) link

I'm pretty sure it's in Uptight, the Bockris/Malanga book about the Velvets, and I can picture one of the movies made abt Warhol in the 90s (?) having it playing in the background while he's working at the Factory. Thought it was the Solanas one, but it's not listed on the OST.

fetter, Friday, 29 July 2022 10:51 (two weeks ago) link

Hmm, thanks. It is indeed in Up-Tight, although hard to know who exactly is saying it, it appears that Bockris himself is asserting it. Seems to be pretty widely accepted though. Still, would be nice if there were a quote of Andy himself saying it, if not Paul Morrissey or something. Somebody even made this, although I also don’t think it is “real,” the only legit one seems to be from 2002, for Warhol’s 74th birthday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQyVd2xzbKs

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 11:20 (two weeks ago) link

( how big a thing are Fan Made Google Doodles?)

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 11:22 (two weeks ago) link

hunted the internet for quite a long time looking for the BBC TV show that used this song -- the pentangle version -- as its themetune, before i remembered that it was actually another pentangle song on the same LP ("light flight" on basket of light) and the show was take three girls: three young women share a flat in swinging london, two series, only a few eps still now exist :(

mark s, Friday, 29 July 2022 12:33 (two weeks ago) link

RETVRN

mark s, Friday, 29 July 2022 12:34 (two weeks ago) link

Sorry for my OCD pedantry but there is a qualitative difference between something someone listens to and hears all the time and a song that they declare their favorite especially if that someone is the oracular sphinx that is Warhol.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 13:06 (two weeks ago) link

I will work on a creepy / spooky oldies list over the next few days.

Bookmarking thread.

enochroot, Friday, 29 July 2022 14:21 (two weeks ago) link

Just revisited the Great Society version, and I think it's pretty cool... almost VU-like.

HIPPO violation (morrisp), Friday, 29 July 2022 17:38 (two weeks ago) link

How about the Susanna Hoffs version?

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:09 (two weeks ago) link

Great Society version is growing on me, but now I really want to here Micky Dolenz singing in his psychedelic Grace Slick voice accompanying himself on his Moog.#onethread

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:16 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkveh4vguz8
? and the Mysterians version disappoints, sorry to say

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:17 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRq3YLJ3GpU
Peter and Gordon cover adds its own brand of brassy Britishes weird though

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:19 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J--eQV1aaQE
Peter Tork version not doing much for me.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:19 (two weeks ago) link

And here is the Susanna Hoffs version I mentioned a few posts back, which follows her traditonal winning practice of approximating the original track as closely as possible and singing the heck out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpfMN7R2zHk

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:21 (two weeks ago) link

this is part of my childhood so i can't hear it clearly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t__2FVjuDng

mark s, Friday, 29 July 2022 18:25 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfrZJ-UWvKU
Medicine version explicitly psychedelic in a pleasing fashion.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2022 18:37 (two weeks ago) link

woah, that's pretty cool. finding the kinship between the original and Tomorrow Never Knows.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 29 July 2022 21:55 (two weeks ago) link

Quite an odd song for Pentangle to pick up on, I think; not really their usual source material.

fetter, Friday, 29 July 2022 22:40 (two weeks ago) link


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