Beyoncé - Renaissance

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I appreciate the need to try new things, but couldn’t get invested in recent projects. (Also I was one of three people on earth who wasn’t into most of Lemonade.)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

Yeah my theory is that people are just thirsty for new beyonce, it’s been 6 years since they got Lemonade.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

lol @ me talking myself into liking this

― Tim F, Tuesday, June 21, 2022 9

lol I can see this

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

Many xxxxposts:

Don’t know if you’re joking but it’s not that Tricky. This is Cristopher “tricky” stewart.


don’t know if *you’re* joking but….

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 04:53 (one year ago) link

lol i was confused as well but moka's response was to someone commenting 'she should have worked with portishead instead'

just sayin, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 05:05 (one year ago) link

First listen here. On the one hand it's a surprising and refreshing sound for her, on the other this beat is just too ubiquitous and mundane to be memorable. I think the song mostly works, her vocals are fine, but the chorus is nothing to cry home about. I would certainly not leave the dancefloor if it came on, but that's about it.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 05:41 (one year ago) link

I guess it's a superstar temptation to try to prove that you can cover every genre, as if it mattered to your legacy.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 05:43 (one year ago) link

Yeah sorry I was answering to peace,man about his Portishead comment, which I think was a joke.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

I'd be more likely to shrug off her singing about her 9–5 if critic-stans weren't writing horseshit like this (pitchfork):

She opens, rather tenderly, “I just fell in love and I just quit my job/I’m gonna find new drive, damn they work me so damn hard.” Relatable: In the first verse alone, she encapsulates the Great Resignation, the Great Unionization, and quarantine insomnia. The determined chorus—“You won’t break my soul/And I’m tellin’ everybody”—is framed so that listeners can fill it with whatever we need in the moment. NOLA bounce icon Big Freedia is sampled for the intro and verse, which grounds the song in its Black queer tradition (and also provides the very good line, “Release the trade, release the stress”). She tough-loves us out of our pandemic hovels, physical and mental, rapping, “You said you outside but you ain’t that outside,” and responsibly seems to endorse continued masking; thank you, Beyoncé.

Right, the billionaire who co-hosted an Oscar party at a hotel where workers were striking in part due to the sexual harassment they experience from celebrity guests is invoking the "Great Unionization", please fuck off with this nonsense. Like I don't actually care that much about B's personal hypocrisy, but the instant mythologizing that happens with this artist borders on pathetic.

That said, map you're never to old to thrill to the prospect of quitting your job! There's nothing more alien to me than people I know continuing to work into their 70s who can easily afford to retire

rob, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

That whole Pfork "review" is fairly embarrassing (to Pfork)

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

I think its nice that they took the time to thank Beyonce for her work. Too many reviewers forget basic manners like that.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

“Thank you, Posty.”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

Damn. I usually like reading Julianne.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

Finally, a billionaire that understands our struggles.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

So much for myth busting

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

All that for a song that’s 5/10 at most.

gyac, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

“Break My Soul” is Beyoncé as an SSRI, her attempt to assuage widespread depression and crushing stress, while acknowledging the predicament in which many of her non-zillionaire listeners find themselves. She opens, rather tenderly, “I just fell in love and I just quit my job/I’m gonna find new drive, damn they work me so damn hard.” Relatable: In the first verse alone, she encapsulates the Great Resignation, the Great Unionization, and quarantine insomnia. The determined chorus—“You won’t break my soul/And I’m tellin’ everybody”—is framed so that listeners can fill it with whatever we need in the moment. NOLA bounce icon Big Freedia is sampled for the intro and verse, which grounds the song in its Black queer tradition (and also provides the very good line, “Release the trade, release the stress”). She tough-loves us out of our pandemic hovels, physical and mental, rapping, “You said you outside but you ain’t that outside,” and responsibly seems to endorse continued masking; thank you, Beyoncé.

criticism that purports to speak for the music's entire audience like this is such irksome trash lol

imago, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

the review is fine and the song does strike the zeitgeist more or less effectively, rich ilxors notwithstanding

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

i know that ilx loves rediscovering the cognitive dissonance of a rich person making art that voices a poor pov and all but just a reminder that this is pop music we're talking about.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

Yep. Pop music has inhabited these contradictions forever, regardless of the reviews the music inspires.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

well, yeah. all the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players. they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts. thank you, Beyoncé!

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

i'll tell you what's going through a renaissance - the discourse!!!

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

Ryan Dombal is somewhere breathing a sigh of relief.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

lol vg Murgatroid

rob, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

I'm guessing those lines about "building my own foundation" are a preview for some big philanthropy program.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

Maybe she's designing the Beyoncéverse version of Avengers Tower.

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

wow... talk about The Discourse:

https://i.imgur.com/cQ96SeN.jpg

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

sorry smartasses, i'm gonna be real for a second, last time and then i'm out of this thread for a while i promise, as a person who has struggled with finances his whole life and is now 40, the idea of building my own foundation means working 1.5 jobs, paying off credit card debt and escaping the abusive cult my family belongs to. it's cool that you all find it trite and are over it but i'm willing to bet this resonates with a lot of people because it feels lived in. also to "this house sound is boring" - that house sound is forever, fuck off lol.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

I’m younger than you and it’s trite af. Pop argument can miss me as well, it’s crass and embarrassing, people are pointing out the contradictions for those reasons, not because contradictions are inherently alien to pop.

gyac, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

Like Beyoncé herself has done commentary so much better - Formation is full of clever, knowing lyrics. It literally ends with “always stay gracious, best revenge is your paper” - fuck your racism, I’ll succeed despite you - but the video is all about taking pride in blackness and also her anger about anti-blackness, and Beyoncé being rich doesn’t mean she can escape that. This? This is just basic in all senses.

gyac, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

i probably wouldnt even be giving it a second thought if she hadnt literally crossed a high profile picket line for a billionaire party a few months prior to this. the song is fine and im sure i will enjoy hearing it in clubs and hotel lobbies for many years to come, but i cant help but feel that context affecting the way i hear those lyrics. if others can enjoy it without that lens, that's great, but its a valid lens to look at the work through. its obv naive to call bullshit on a popstar just for being rich, but its equally naive to think that their celebrity persona isnt in dialogue with the music as its received, particularly w/someone like beyonce.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

Thanks, Map - it’s good to hear how the song is working for you. (I really do think the foundation line is an Easter egg.) It makes for an interesting compliment to “Nice for What,” which was also a celebration of just getting by and staying strong.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

i did find bey musing about "all these people on the planet working 9 to 5 just to stay alive" viscerally thrilling back on the self-titled

dyl, Thursday, 23 June 2022 02:45 (one year ago) link

I doubt this song will have enough legs to be heard in clubs / hotel lobbies for many years to come. Regardless of how obnoxious or on point you think the lyrics are, it’s lacking that wow factor and hooks of some of her most successful singles have. I know repetitiveness is a feature on house music but it works against her. She’s trying to do too much with her vocals for it to really work for me.

We’ll see I guess… most of the pop charts have been super bland this year so far, so it might as well be the anthem lacking in lustre that 2022 deserves.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link

Different approaches since Beyonce is clearly a better singer, but compare this to Drake’s “Massive”. That one allows the track to breathe and there’s many parts where he allows the beat to carry the song.

There’s virtually no part in the Beyonce song where the song doesn’t have vocals either sampled or by beyonce.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:02 (one year ago) link

As a house track it’s terrible imho, and as a pop track it’s also super constrained and confused and frankly tasteless.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:04 (one year ago) link

I was excited about the idea of Beyonce doing a house album but this single doesn’t make me think she truly has the gear in place to pull it off.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:10 (one year ago) link

yeah it is an indictment that there's stuff on the drake album more compelling than this

ufo, Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:50 (one year ago) link

she encapsulates the Great Resignation, the Great Unionization

https://www.etonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/970xh/public/images/2015-05/500_beyonce_feeling_myself_champagne_still.jpg

piscesx, Thursday, 23 June 2022 08:37 (one year ago) link

I'm trying to decide how indicative it is that my IG feed is basically 90% dancing footage from films and tv shows synced to the chorus of "Break My Soul".

Funny how homing in on the drop into the chorus makes this song seem more exciting than it actually is.

Tim F, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link

(well it's indicative of several things, probably)

Tim F, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

The Long Tail of Show Me Love:

Earlier last week, Robin S. got a call from her son informing her that she was trending on social media as a result of the apparent “Show Me Love” reference in Beyoncé’s song, which replicates that M1 Organ 2 sound (in a different rhythm). She and StoneBridge both said they had no idea what was coming. StoneBridge discovered the connection while searching for his name on Twitter.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 27 June 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

still think the inspiration here is at least as much the MK Nocturnal Dub remix of “Push The Feeling On” (not exactly an obscurity either, but obviously much less famous) as the StoneBridge “Show Me Love”

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 05:39 (one year ago) link

still think the inspiration here is at least as much the MK Nocturnal Dub remix of “Push The Feeling On” (not exactly an obscurity either, but obviously much less famous) as the StoneBridge “Show Me Love”

― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, June 28, 2022 6:39 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm, very mk sound

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 30 June 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

(not mark knight, marc kinchen, it took me too long to figure out they were different people lol)

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 30 June 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

Gotta be an NFT of this:

act i RENAISSANCE 7.29 https://t.co/6sfw3sBWnz pic.twitter.com/FPPhEW1OTK

— BEYONCÉ (@Beyonce) June 30, 2022

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

lol

dyl, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

during the Great Unionisation everyone will have a crystal horse of pure light

imago, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

We just need the Studio 54 moon and spoon laced with cocaine in the background and the aesthetic is complete.

lilsoulbrother, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link


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