Beyoncé - Renaissance

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https://www.vogue.co.uk/fashion/article/beyonce-vogue-cover-new-music

She then asked me if I wanted to hear her new music. As someone who first saw her perform live with Destiny’s Child 23 years ago, a moment’s walk from my family home when the group played at the Notting Hill Carnival in 1999, I can feel the tingling excitement build as we make our way to her home recording studio. With minimal ceremony, she takes her laptop and plugs it in as we all sit on some sofas. Quietly, the superstar hits play on her upcoming album.

Instantly, a wall of sound hits me. Soaring vocals and fierce beats combine and in a split second I’m transported back to the clubs of my youth. I want to get up and start throwing moves. It’s music I love to my core. Music that makes you rise, that turns your mind to cultures and subcultures, to our people past and present, music that will unite so many on the dance floor, music that touches your soul. As ever with Beyoncé, it is all about the intent. I sit back, after the wave, absorbing it all.

Murgatroid, Thursday, 16 June 2022 14:25 (two weeks ago) link

wow @ the photos. i guess this is going to be club focused.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 16 June 2022 14:50 (two weeks ago) link

Others think disco/house, which would be the first Beyoncé album I care about tbh. Hope they’re right.

gyac, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:01 (two weeks ago) link

This writing, lol

As a scrumptious dinner of ribs, cream corn, peas, and mashed potatoes is served

Creature Catcher (Live) (morrisp), Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:05 (two weeks ago) link

now Renaissance needs to release an album called Beyoncé

frogbs, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:12 (two weeks ago) link

something tells me beyonce's diet does not regularly include soul food

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:47 (two weeks ago) link

but if it does then more power to her.

i would very much welcome beyonce doing disco / house this year.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:50 (two weeks ago) link

I feel like Beyonce is someone who could really nail the subcultural element of Paris Is Burning influences - her last two albums have been explicit in dealing with race and feminism. But I would settle for twelve tracks of starlit house that sound like Freemasons's remix of Green Light.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:22 (two weeks ago) link

an amapiano-inspired album would be nice

butt-mooning is a polysemous word, hoss! (breastcrawl), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:43 (two weeks ago) link

something tells me beyonce's diet does not regularly include soul food

“crystal-mesh” is apparently a part of it tho, going by the photos. could work as a song title as well.

butt-mooning is a polysemous word, hoss! (breastcrawl), Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:46 (two weeks ago) link

“Break My Soul” out tonight

Murgatroid, Monday, 20 June 2022 13:52 (one week ago) link

I guess the horse is country, there's the disco ball, gold is for amapiano (KDS), and the motorbike is for the Rosalía influence
We're missing the vulva coat from the pictures which stands for... err...

Nabozo, Monday, 20 June 2022 14:10 (one week ago) link

idk if it's true but some on social media seem to believe that the-dream has produced or is otherwise involved in "break my soul"

rly excited either way!!

dyl, Monday, 20 June 2022 15:07 (one week ago) link

hmmmmmm yeah idk about this

BEYONCÉ B7 RENAISSANCE ACT 1 BREAK MY SOUL LEAK LEAKED SNIPPET SONG COMING OUT TONIGHT #BEYONCE #BREAKMYSOUL pic.twitter.com/WVS8ZzyEhh

— Normani Chart Source (@ManiChartSource) June 21, 2022

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 02:11 (one week ago) link

well then why are you posting it here!

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 02:22 (one week ago) link

bc I like to be of service ;)

anyway a bit better in non-leak form

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjki-9Pthh0

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 02:27 (one week ago) link

pretty underwhelming & doing that with the "show me love" sample is a weird move

ufo, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 03:14 (one week ago) link

I agree - but maybe it will grow on me.

Tim F, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 04:03 (one week ago) link

I like it and I expect in a club it will sound revelatory

monotony, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 04:08 (one week ago) link

the positive is that if she's making a house album at least something should be good surely

ufo, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 04:16 (one week ago) link

Hope it turns new people on to Black Box.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 04:24 (one week ago) link

Are soaring vocals and fierce beats combining, and in a split second transporting you back to the clubs of your youth?

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 04:41 (one week ago) link

I, noted non-fan of the 90s house sound in general, really dig this.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 04:47 (one week ago) link

this should be up my alley but it all just seems so basic, cheap, and obvious

like sampling “Show Me Love” with Big Freedia as guest seems like something Katy Perry would do

sorry is this a safe space from the wrath of the Beyhive

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 04:59 (one week ago) link

I feel like I’m gonna regret what I just said

Anyway I have faith the rest of the album will be better

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 05:00 (one week ago) link

Listening to this and then revisiting "Show Me Love" back-to-back is not flattering to the Beyoncé track.

It reminds me of that recent Muni Long/Saweetie track that's essentially a "remake" of "My Boo," and just makes you go – why?

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 05:12 (one week ago) link

I kinda like this but feels like she could have done more with it

Vinnie, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 05:54 (one week ago) link

it saddens me as a longtime Beyoncé fan to say that I don't find this to be good, really at all. there's just so much about it that feels wrong to my ears. it made me think of 10 different similar-sounding tracks/records that I'd much rather listen to.

it's definitely a force for good, though! I hope its anti-establishment sentiments will be central to its resonance and success.

winters (josh), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 06:24 (one week ago) link

I wouldn't say I find it great but after listening to it once, not expecting much following the first comments here, I like it !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 09:22 (one week ago) link

It has a summer party vibe that will certainly be enjoyable in the next few weeks.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 09:23 (one week ago) link

I like it more the more I listen to it. First listen was, frankly, very “wait, that’s it?”

It reminds me (in a good way) that I was a high school student in Baltimore in the first half of the 1990s.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 09:50 (one week ago) link

(That should be “Baltimore County”.)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 10:15 (one week ago) link

this should be up my alley but it all just seems so basic, cheap, and obvious

like sampling “Show Me Love” with Big Freedia as guest seems like something Katy Perry would do

sorry is this a safe space from the wrath of the Beyhive

― Murgatroid

100%

Coming from very creative and tasteful dance pop albums in recent years from Robyn, Jessie Ware and Roisin Murphy… hell even Dua Lipa. Someone with the stature of Beyonce choosing “show me love” is eye rolling and borders on parody.

Hope the rest of the album is more interesting but don’t have my hopes high after listening to this one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 10:54 (one week ago) link

As a mythbusting gesture and maybe even a dance track, it works.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 11:50 (one week ago) link

But was her intention to get myth busted?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 11:51 (one week ago) link

I don't care about intentions. Releasing a solid pop house track is not what the audience expects.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 12:11 (one week ago) link

What? Everyone was expecting this based on the Vogue shoot.

gyac, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 12:19 (one week ago) link

“As a mythbusting gesture”

“I don’t care about intentions”

???

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 12:23 (one week ago) link

I interpret it as a mythbusting gesture. I haven't talked to Beyonce's office.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 12:48 (one week ago) link

i like this but yeah it's really not at the level of excellence one expects from bey these days

i hope normies don't think this is all house music is capable of

incidentally i did quit my job like a month and a half ago so this should resonate more w/ me but it doesn't quite

i enjoy how it swells a lil as it advances

perhaps the fact that the 'single cover' simply shows its numerical placement in the track listing signifies that this isn't 'really a single' and is more just a random preview track?? a little sad that i'm trying to come up w/ excuses for it tho

dyl, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 12:49 (one week ago) link

I couldn't get more than 90 seconds into this, but my fondness for her whole deal has curdled and my ears are probably jaundiced

rob, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 13:30 (one week ago) link

it sounded kind of incompetent though? the diff elements don't fit together at all imo

rob, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 13:31 (one week ago) link

I was underwhelmed by this last night, but it's really grown on me through repeat listens this morning. Maybe you have to hear it when you're trying to psyche yourself up to go to work. (Now I'm silently mouthing "You won't break my soul!" all around my office.) There is an actual single cover for it now, and I think a video release is imminent.

!Alicia!, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 13:44 (one week ago) link

This reminds me of when Solar Power by Lorde came out. There are 90s signifiers, but it's so empty. Oh wow, and then they straight-up pokemon'd us at 4:10 for some reason.

peace, man, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 13:46 (one week ago) link

lol yes i was surprised she would allow a potentially seizure-inducing sequence in her lyric video

dyl, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 13:57 (one week ago) link

this is a tricky/dream joint fwiw

k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 June 2022 15:08 (one week ago) link

Might have done better with Portishead, tbh.

peace, man, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 15:25 (one week ago) link

i fucking love this. it's gonna sound so good on a club system.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 15:28 (one week ago) link

^^^^

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 15:36 (one week ago) link

liked this more than i expected based on the thread, eagerly awaiting the ten minute david morales remix

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 15:51 (one week ago) link

the review is fine and the song does strike the zeitgeist more or less effectively, rich ilxors notwithstanding

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:46 (one week ago) link

i know that ilx loves rediscovering the cognitive dissonance of a rich person making art that voices a poor pov and all but just a reminder that this is pop music we're talking about.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:51 (one week ago) link

Yep. Pop music has inhabited these contradictions forever, regardless of the reviews the music inspires.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:52 (one week ago) link

well, yeah. all the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players. they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts. thank you, Beyoncé!

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:30 (one week ago) link

i'll tell you what's going through a renaissance - the discourse!!!

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:35 (one week ago) link

Ryan Dombal is somewhere breathing a sigh of relief.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:37 (one week ago) link

lol vg Murgatroid

rob, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:39 (one week ago) link

I'm guessing those lines about "building my own foundation" are a preview for some big philanthropy program.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 18:30 (one week ago) link

Maybe she's designing the Beyoncéverse version of Avengers Tower.

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 18:58 (one week ago) link

wow... talk about The Discourse:

https://i.imgur.com/cQ96SeN.jpg

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:02 (one week ago) link

sorry smartasses, i'm gonna be real for a second, last time and then i'm out of this thread for a while i promise, as a person who has struggled with finances his whole life and is now 40, the idea of building my own foundation means working 1.5 jobs, paying off credit card debt and escaping the abusive cult my family belongs to. it's cool that you all find it trite and are over it but i'm willing to bet this resonates with a lot of people because it feels lived in. also to "this house sound is boring" - that house sound is forever, fuck off lol.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:05 (one week ago) link

I’m younger than you and it’s trite af. Pop argument can miss me as well, it’s crass and embarrassing, people are pointing out the contradictions for those reasons, not because contradictions are inherently alien to pop.

gyac, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:08 (one week ago) link

Like Beyoncé herself has done commentary so much better - Formation is full of clever, knowing lyrics. It literally ends with “always stay gracious, best revenge is your paper” - fuck your racism, I’ll succeed despite you - but the video is all about taking pride in blackness and also her anger about anti-blackness, and Beyoncé being rich doesn’t mean she can escape that. This? This is just basic in all senses.

gyac, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:13 (one week ago) link

i probably wouldnt even be giving it a second thought if she hadnt literally crossed a high profile picket line for a billionaire party a few months prior to this. the song is fine and im sure i will enjoy hearing it in clubs and hotel lobbies for many years to come, but i cant help but feel that context affecting the way i hear those lyrics. if others can enjoy it without that lens, that's great, but its a valid lens to look at the work through. its obv naive to call bullshit on a popstar just for being rich, but its equally naive to think that their celebrity persona isnt in dialogue with the music as its received, particularly w/someone like beyonce.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:30 (one week ago) link

Thanks, Map - it’s good to hear how the song is working for you. (I really do think the foundation line is an Easter egg.) It makes for an interesting compliment to “Nice for What,” which was also a celebration of just getting by and staying strong.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 20:51 (one week ago) link

i did find bey musing about "all these people on the planet working 9 to 5 just to stay alive" viscerally thrilling back on the self-titled

dyl, Thursday, 23 June 2022 02:45 (one week ago) link

I doubt this song will have enough legs to be heard in clubs / hotel lobbies for many years to come. Regardless of how obnoxious or on point you think the lyrics are, it’s lacking that wow factor and hooks of some of her most successful singles have. I know repetitiveness is a feature on house music but it works against her. She’s trying to do too much with her vocals for it to really work for me.

We’ll see I guess… most of the pop charts have been super bland this year so far, so it might as well be the anthem lacking in lustre that 2022 deserves.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:50 (one week ago) link

Different approaches since Beyonce is clearly a better singer, but compare this to Drake’s “Massive”. That one allows the track to breathe and there’s many parts where he allows the beat to carry the song.

There’s virtually no part in the Beyonce song where the song doesn’t have vocals either sampled or by beyonce.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:02 (one week ago) link

As a house track it’s terrible imho, and as a pop track it’s also super constrained and confused and frankly tasteless.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:04 (one week ago) link

I was excited about the idea of Beyonce doing a house album but this single doesn’t make me think she truly has the gear in place to pull it off.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:10 (one week ago) link

yeah it is an indictment that there's stuff on the drake album more compelling than this

ufo, Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:50 (one week ago) link

she encapsulates the Great Resignation, the Great Unionization

https://www.etonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/970xh/public/images/2015-05/500_beyonce_feeling_myself_champagne_still.jpg

piscesx, Thursday, 23 June 2022 08:37 (one week ago) link

I'm trying to decide how indicative it is that my IG feed is basically 90% dancing footage from films and tv shows synced to the chorus of "Break My Soul".

Funny how homing in on the drop into the chorus makes this song seem more exciting than it actually is.

Tim F, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:47 (one week ago) link

(well it's indicative of several things, probably)

Tim F, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:48 (one week ago) link

The Long Tail of Show Me Love:

Earlier last week, Robin S. got a call from her son informing her that she was trending on social media as a result of the apparent “Show Me Love” reference in Beyoncé’s song, which replicates that M1 Organ 2 sound (in a different rhythm). She and StoneBridge both said they had no idea what was coming. StoneBridge discovered the connection while searching for his name on Twitter.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 27 June 2022 23:40 (five days ago) link

still think the inspiration here is at least as much the MK Nocturnal Dub remix of “Push The Feeling On” (not exactly an obscurity either, but obviously much less famous) as the StoneBridge “Show Me Love”

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 05:39 (four days ago) link

still think the inspiration here is at least as much the MK Nocturnal Dub remix of “Push The Feeling On” (not exactly an obscurity either, but obviously much less famous) as the StoneBridge “Show Me Love”

― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, June 28, 2022 6:39 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm, very mk sound

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 30 June 2022 16:42 (two days ago) link

(not mark knight, marc kinchen, it took me too long to figure out they were different people lol)

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 30 June 2022 16:43 (two days ago) link

Gotta be an NFT of this:

act i RENAISSANCE 7.29 https://t.co/6sfw3sBWnz pic.twitter.com/FPPhEW1OTK

— BEYONCÉ (@Beyonce) June 30, 2022

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 30 June 2022 17:16 (two days ago) link

lol

dyl, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:10 (two days ago) link

during the Great Unionisation everyone will have a crystal horse of pure light

imago, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:12 (two days ago) link

We just need the Studio 54 moon and spoon laced with cocaine in the background and the aesthetic is complete.

lilsoulbrother, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:54 (two days ago) link

I would likely highly enjoy Beyonce making a quasi-concept album structured around the deeply impractical combination of quitting your job and doing coke.

Tim F, Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:01 (two days ago) link

Beyonce's been playing Elden Ring

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 30 June 2022 21:13 (two days ago) link

I would likely highly enjoy Beyonce making a quasi-concept album structured around the deeply impractical combination of quitting your job and doing coke.

― Tim F, Thursday, June 30, 2022 2:01 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

All 70s disco is a soundtrack to an eventful, but regrettable weekend.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 1 July 2022 04:54 (yesterday) link

Not really feeling any of these vibes.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 1 July 2022 06:25 (yesterday) link

cover is hilariously godawful and makes me fear she’s reverted into sasha fierce

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 1 July 2022 06:34 (yesterday) link

I can’t believe how bad that cover is.

Spottie, Friday, 1 July 2022 06:45 (yesterday) link

it's a born this way-level cover

ufo, Friday, 1 July 2022 07:00 (yesterday) link

i wish!!!!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 1 July 2022 07:24 (yesterday) link

Born Again This Way

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 1 July 2022 07:45 (yesterday) link

born this way cover is an explosion of camp, this could be aiming at camp but seems to land in a zone of tasteful tastelessness which is anticamp

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 1 July 2022 08:10 (yesterday) link

Posing like a work of art, nude in the cosmos / void / constellations, motherly boobs and sculpted thighs on the stallion is pretty uninspired, cold, and bland symbolic. Any shot from the Apeshit video would have worked better.

Nabozo, Friday, 1 July 2022 08:54 (yesterday) link

She quit her job and now she can’t even afford a real horse.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 1 July 2022 12:12 (yesterday) link

The cover immediately made me think of Lil Nas X.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 1 July 2022 14:14 (yesterday) link

it made me think of Geocities

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 1 July 2022 14:38 (yesterday) link

a zone of tasteful tastelessness which is anticamp

or kitsch, per Sontag

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Friday, 1 July 2022 14:40 (yesterday) link

cover is hilariously godawful and makes me fear she’s reverted into sasha fierce

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, July 1, 2022 1:34 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

we know that's not the case bc "Break My Soul" comes nowhere close to "Single Ladies"

Murgatroid, Friday, 1 July 2022 15:00 (yesterday) link

It sounds to me a little like "I already reused 'Get Me Bodied' once, I'd better do something different" was said at some point in the song's construction

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 1 July 2022 15:19 (yesterday) link


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